[sniffer] Re: Server didnt restart

2007-11-20 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

Serge,

If you wanted to feed those back logged messages into the proc folder on 
a scheduled interval you may want to use one of our utilities 
(MoveFiles).  It's free.  The benefit is that new mail coming in will 
not be delayed and you can feed those messages back into the proc folder 
as your server can process them and keep up with new mail.


Darrell

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Paul Rogers wrote:

They will get processed it's just a matter of how long it will take.

I think the answer will depend on how many messages per hour your server
normally processes.  You didn't specify how long your server was offline so
we can only guess how long it took to accumulate 40k messages (and thus a
per hour inbound rate).

At max capacity I see my main server process (through sniffer/latest beta)
about 800-1000 messages per minute (60k/hour)...that would be on a quad xeon
(on SATA drives).  So at that rate (assuming no other incoming email which
can slow the overall process down) maybe an hour.  But since the server also
has normal incoming emails to deal with as well, it may take 90-120 mins to
completely clear a queue that size.

Keep an eye on your proc folder q file count...  dir q*.* /w

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Subject: [sniffer] Server didnt restart

Hello

My server rebooted last night.
Sniffer server did not restart correctly.
I fixed that, but i have 40K+ message in the 
imail/spool/proc, most inbound and not yet localy delivered.
Will they be reprocessed automaticaly ? or is there something 
else i need to do ?

How long will it take ? (dual xeon 1.266 GHz)

TIA




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[sniffer] Re: Beta

2007-10-16 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

You nailed it Pete,

Thanks!
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Pete McNeil wrote:

Hello Darrell,

Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 9:26:47 PM, you wrote:


Pete,



Can you cover how the communication for the GBUdb system works?


Sure. (And documentation is coming along with a web site redesign, so
there will be plenty of additional detail on all things new SNF
arriving over the next few weeks).

  Who 
does it exchange information with and how?

  Does it need special ports open?


I'm going to assume this question is at least in part about security
issues so I will frame my response from that perspective:

Every minute or so (adjusted dynamically by the system) each new SNF
node contacts one of our SYNC servers. The connection is made to port
25 by default.

Since most MTAs will regularly make these kinds of connections no
special ports will need to be open. If your MTAs are not allowed make
outbound connections to port 25 for some reason then you have the
option to make the connection to port 80.

Our SYNC server software rejects connections by default. If an SNF
node follows the expected connection protocols and authenticates
properly and consistently then it will be allowed to communicate with
the system. If it fails to do any of these things or looks suspicious
in any way then it will be automatically black listed for increasingly
extended periods and potentially null routed by our fire-walls. The
security mechanisms are fully automatic and constantly monitored.

The authentication protocol used to identify properly licensed SNF
nodes is described in the file AuthenticationProtocol.swf. This file
is included in the beta distributions and is also visible in the page
linked below.

At present there is no mechanism for connections to be made into SNF
nodes -- only from SNF nodes to the SYNC servers. Also, there is no
mechanism that allows the SYNC server (or any of our systems) to
manipulate the SNF nodes except by the protocols described in the
GBUdb documentation and by reporting update availability, tuning data,
etc.

This link helps explain how these interactions work:

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer.TechnicalDetails.GBUdb

The SYNC system is separate from the rulebase delivery system.

All of the data transmitted and received by the SNF nodes is in plain
text or base64 encoded. The format of the data is XML. With the
exception of GBUdb traffic, the telemetry transmitted to us is
available to you directly in the .status. reports made by the SNF
engine. Status reports can be found in the same directory as your SNF
log files. You can use these XML based posts to create your own
real-time monitoring systems.

In addition to the GBUdb functions, the telemetry eliminates the need
to send in log files by providing near real-time pattern matching
statistics; supports virtual spamtraps and other collaborative
learning systems; and provides performance analysis, error detection /
correction, and system tuning metrics.

One other security note -- the virtual spamtrap system can be turned
off easily if you wish. Normally the virtual spamtrap system will send
us a random sampling of messages that come from the worst known IPs
when those messages do not match known pattern rules. In most systems,
these are messages that would normally be discarded.

Samples are infrequent by design so they should not account for any
appreciable bandwidth.

Similarly, the GBUdb protocol is designed to share information
sparsely so that no appreciable bandwidth or CPU capacity is required.

Please let me know if I missed the mark on your questions.

Hope this helps,

_M



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[sniffer] Re: Beta

2007-10-16 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

Pete,

Can you cover how the communication for the GBUdb system works?  Who 
does it exchange information with and how?  Does it need special ports open?


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Pete McNeil wrote:

Hello Keith,

First off-- there is a lot of misunderstanding in this message. I'm
sorry for any confusion. For those watching - please read my responses
carefully and hopefully they will clear things up quite a bit.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 3:36:23 PM, you wrote:


Pete,



I am attempting to get caught on the latest beta and just have a few
questions.  I noticed Sniffer is now called a different way in the
Declude config files, is that correct?


Yes, but not very differently.

The best way to adjust your Declude (or similar) configuration files
for calling the new SNF is to REM out your existing settings, make a
copy, and in your new copy change the name & path of the SNF
executable so that it points to the new SNFClient.exe program. You do
not need to rename SNFClient.exe. It will accept the same command line
parameters that the earlier version of SNF expects - so the only
change you really have to make is the name/path to the SNF executable
you call to scan your messages.


  On the last release (running
persistent), we have numerous entries in the declude.cfg file labeled:



SNIFFER-TRAVEL  external047
"C:\IMail\Declude\Sniffer\WeightGate.exe -12 %WEIGHT% 19
C:\IMail\Declude\Sniffer\snifferlic.exe codehere"   20



However, it appears the categories are going away (posted in some
previous messages) and there is a since of urgency needed in upgrading
as these won't be populated any longer soon.


THIS IS NOT TRUE. The rule categories are staying just like they are.

Perhaps the confusion is that one rule group, the IP rules, has been
deprecated. It's functionality is being replaced by the GBUdb system
which will return the same result code (63) for IPs in the "Black"
range.

The GBUdb will also return some additional values for special cases.
By default:

If the IP is in the White range, return 0.

If the IP is in the Caution range, return 40.

If the IP is in the Truncate range, return 20.

What you will want to do is:

* Make the changes to your configuration so that you are calling the
SNFClient instead of .

* Add two additional "tests" for the 40 result code and the 20 result
code. I suggest making the 40 result code a slightly lower weight than
you usually give to SNF - probably something similar to what you give
a fairly accurate RBL. I suggest giving the 20 result code the same
weight as SNF or possibly a higher weight.

The "meaning" of the 40 result code is - "We don't trust this IP. We
don't know a lot about it, but what we've seen so far looks like
spam."

The "meaning" of the 20 result code is - "We've watched this IP for a
while now and this IP sends spam so consistently that we don't even
look at the content any more - we just skip the message as soon as we
see the IP."


I take it we run the persistent mode the same way, but have a different
hook into Declude?


With the new SNF instead of running  persistent, you
run \SNFServer.exe \snf_engine.xml.

By the way - if you have a persistent instance running, you DO NOT
need to stop it to run the new SNFServer.exe. You can run both
together and they will leave each other alone.

This way you can switch back and forth easily just by calling the
correct client --- either the original SNF installation you have or
the new SNFClient.

Whichever one you are NOT calling will more-or-less sleep while the
other works. Once you are satisfied with the results and your
installation you can then tear down the old one (if you wish).

Hope this helps,

_M




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[sniffer] Re: Error Messages since WeightGate

2007-06-10 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
After looking into it I am on board with what Pete said about the "heap" 
issue.  It makes sense to me that its the heap issue since were 
launching weight gate -> SNF.  Effectively doubling the amount of 
processes being launched.


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Keith Johnson wrote:

Darrell,

You are right, a reboot will take care of it for a season, then it comes back 
out of the blue.  Very strange indeed.

Keith

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From: Message Sniffer Community on behalf of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sat 6/9/2007 9:36 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Error Messages since WeightGate



Keith,

I was having the same problems last week.  Just came out of the blue and
was across several of our servers as well.  Same error verbatim.  FWIW -
I also use weightgate.  I rebooted the servers I was seeing this issue
on and the problem has not returned.

Very odd you mentioned that as I thought this was isolated to just me.

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Keith Johnson wrote:

It appears since installing WeightGate we have been receiving a lot of the 
below Application PopUps indicating an error:

The application failed to initialize properly 0xc142. Click on OK to 
terminate the application

The application entry is our Sniffer .exe.  Today alone I saw over 300.   I 
thought it was an isolated issue.  However, it is happening across all our 
servers.  We are running the latest Sniffer in Persistent mode.  We never saw 
these prior to WeightGate.  Has anyone seen this before?  Below is the actual 
entry in Event Log.

-Keith

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Application Popup
Event Category: None
Event ID: 26
Date:  6/9/2007
Time:  12:12:35 AM
User:  N/A
Computer: NAIMAIL2
Description:
Application popup: rrctp2ez.exe - Application Error : The application failed to 
initialize properly (0xc142). Click on OK to terminate the application.



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[sniffer] Re: Error Messages since WeightGate

2007-06-09 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

Keith,

I was having the same problems last week.  Just came out of the blue and 
was across several of our servers as well.  Same error verbatim.  FWIW - 
I also use weightgate.  I rebooted the servers I was seeing this issue 
on and the problem has not returned.


Very odd you mentioned that as I thought this was isolated to just me.

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Keith Johnson wrote:

It appears since installing WeightGate we have been receiving a lot of the 
below Application PopUps indicating an error:
 
The application failed to initialize properly 0xc142. Click on OK to terminate the application
 
The application entry is our Sniffer .exe.  Today alone I saw over 300.   I thought it was an isolated issue.  However, it is happening across all our servers.  We are running the latest Sniffer in Persistent mode.  We never saw these prior to WeightGate.  Has anyone seen this before?  Below is the actual entry in Event Log.
 
-Keith
 
Event Type: Information

Event Source: Application Popup
Event Category: None
Event ID: 26
Date:  6/9/2007
Time:  12:12:35 AM
User:  N/A
Computer: NAIMAIL2
Description:
Application popup: rrctp2ez.exe - Application Error : The application failed to initialize properly (0xc142). Click on OK to terminate the application.  




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[sniffer] Re: Best renewal price and service on Sniffer?

2007-05-18 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
You can renew via Declude using the online store.  I have never had a problem 
renewing through the store.  They will ask for your license ID and everything 
from there took care of itself.

Darrell

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Guluk 
  To: Message Sniffer Community 
  Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:26 AM
  Subject: [sniffer] Best renewal price and service on Sniffer?


  Hello,
  I was informed some time back that I needed to renew my subscription to 
Sniffer soon. I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on May 3rd and never got a 
response back.


  Today is the last day on my subscription. Does anyone have any suggestions on 
where to renew, at the best price?






  Regards, 







  Steve Guluk

  SGDesign

  (949) 661-9333

  ICQ: 7230769















[sniffer] Re: Configuring Sniffer in declude....

2006-11-29 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
Chuck,

Declude will only call Sniffer one time as long as the path and executable 
are identical which they are.

Darrell


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- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Schick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Configuring Sniffer in declude


Several years ago when we first started using message sniffer I set it up
for in the following manner in my global.cfg file.


SNIFFER-GENERALexternal063
"F:\IMail\Declude\sniffer2r32\licensecode.exe activationcode" 70
SNIFFER-EXPERIMENTALexternal062
"F:\IMail\Declude\sniffer2r32\licensecode.exe activationcode" 120
SNIFFER-OBFUSCATIONexternal061
"F:\IMail\Declude\sniffer2r32\licensecode.exe activationcode"110

So one and so forth.

With the increase in spam and CPU load is there any advantage load wise to
just call sniffer once using nonzero instead of the return code.  It seems
like someone told me that sniffer was only called once and not seperately
for each return code.

Could someone confirm that.

Chuck Schick
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[sniffer] Re: New SPAM pain

2006-07-26 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

(*) Please keep in mind this is for one of the systems I maintain - who has
a very wide diverse set of mail.  Your mileage may vary. 

Here are some stats gathered with DLAnalyzer on Zerohour. 

***This is only a one day analysis. 


* Triggered on 42,013 messages out of 99,842 total messages
* 40K of the 42K hits were on messages already considered spam and held.
* Out of the 42K Zerohour detections 39K of those were also detected by
Sniffer. 


* DLAnalyzer's test quality rates Zerohour as .95. (SEE EXPLANATION BELOW ON
THIS)
* Zerohour triggered on 1,020 hams.  In my visual those hams a good portion
were false positives on bulk solicited mail (Home Depot, Marta Stewart, 
USDA, GOP Senators, Democratic National Committee, etc).  I can go into more 
detail on this if anyone wants more info offline. 


For those that do not use DLAnalyzer it has a built in test quality report.
The test quality score is based on a -1 to 1 scale where -1 indicates HAM
and 1 indicates spam.  The closer to 1 the more likely the test is at
detecting SPAM and the closer to -1 indicates HAM. 


Other Test's Test Quality Scores
Message Sniffer - .99
invURIBL - .99
Zerohour - .95
Spamcop - .94
MxRate Black - .93
Fiveten - .92
Sorbs Spam - .71 

At this point I have not evaluated CommTouch's false positive reporting.  
That portion of my testing will come very soon. 

Are any of my results scientific - no.  Will I be dropping Message Sniffer - 
Absolutly not.  Will I continue using CommTouch - yes - as I think it has a 
place on my system.  Will your results and conclusions vary - absolutly. 


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Pete McNeil writes: 

Hello Darrell, 

That's fine. 

_M 

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:43:27 PM, you wrote: 


If Pete doesn't mind I will post my observations in regards to the product.
I run both products (CommTouch and Sniffer). 



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John Shacklett writes: 



I'm dying to start a thread and talk about Sniffer's stance on CommTouch,
but I can resist.  


Instead, I would like to point out that eight clearly spam messages have
made it through to my Inbox [or Outlook Junk Folder] so far this week that
appear to have skinned clear through Sniffer. First ones I've seen in > >Are we undergoing a new phase or campaign that I can make adjustments for?  



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[sniffer] Re: New SPAM pain

2006-07-26 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
The more I think about it I am sorry about this post below - it kinda put's 
Pete on the spot - and I am sorry about that.  Def. not my intention.. 

Darrell 

Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: 

If Pete doesn't mind I will post my observations in regards to the 
product.  I run both products (CommTouch and Sniffer).  


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John Shacklett writes:  


I'm dying to start a thread and talk about Sniffer's stance on CommTouch,
but I can resist.  


Instead, I would like to point out that eight clearly spam messages have
made it through to my Inbox [or Outlook Junk Folder] so far this week 
that
appear to have skinned clear through Sniffer. First ones I've seen in > 
>Are we undergoing a new phase or campaign that I can make adjustments 
for?  



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[sniffer] Re: New SPAM pain

2006-07-26 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
If Pete doesn't mind I will post my observations in regards to the product.  
I run both products (CommTouch and Sniffer). 


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John Shacklett writes: 


I'm dying to start a thread and talk about Sniffer's stance on CommTouch,
but I can resist. 


Instead, I would like to point out that eight clearly spam messages have
made it through to my Inbox [or Outlook Junk Folder] so far this week that
appear to have skinned clear through Sniffer. First ones I've seen in > >Are we undergoing a new phase or campaign that I can make adjustments for? 



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[sniffer] Re: ANN: Availability of 5xxSink 0.5.00, IIS SMTP event sink for text-file recipient validation

2006-06-14 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

Sandy actually released an updated version that allows for that.

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27158.html

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Fuhrmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:17 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: ANN: Availability of 5xxSink 0.5.00, IIS SMTP event 
sink for text-file recipient validation




Does anyone know of a similar solution that allows wild cards (allow
anything at domain name).  We still have some customers using catch-all
accounts.

Paul Fuhrmeister
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:29 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com;
Declude.Virus@declude.com; sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: [sniffer] ANN: Availability of 5xxSink 0.5.00, IIS SMTP event 
sink

for text-file recipient validation

All,

I've posted 5XXSINK, an IIS SMTP event sink (freeware) that allows you to
block unknown recipients at your IIS 5.0 or 6.0 MX by populating a 
barebones

textfile.

Those  who  use the powerful IIS SMTP engine as an MX have no built-in
method  of  preventing  brute-force  spam runs from overwhelming their
internal  content  scanning  and  mailbox  servers with wasted message
processing and double-bounce generation. Several commercial anti-abuse
products  can add this functionality, but they can add undue cost to a 
large

server  farm,  and seem like overkill when a well-tuned content scanning
engine (IMail's, Declude's, etc.) already exists internally, save  for 
the

fact  that it sees messages that should never get that far.

While  it is debatable whether having envelope recipient validation at 
your
MXs will reduce the number of spammers making initial connections to you, 
it

cannot be denied that having such validation will save your hardware  and
bandwidth  resources  beyond the first part of the SMTP conversation.
Recipient  validation at the MX can make the difference between  a 
workable
anti-spam  content  scanner  and  one that fails because it's overwhelmed 
by

messages it should never see.

5XXSINK  is  designed to do one thing, do it well, and do it for free:
to  look  up  full  e-mail addresses in a locally stored text file and
reject  all  RCPT TO commands that do match a line in the file. That's it.

5XXSINK  is  NOT  designed  to  do  any  of  the following: connection
throttling,   tarpitting,   greylisting,   sender   validation,   HELO
interpretation,  or  DNSBL  lookups.  It expects that a robust content
scanning  solution  exists  behind, or perhaps on, the IIS SMTP server
(although commercial IIS SMTP integrations solutions usually duplicate
5XXSINK's recipient validation functionality -- and then some). Again, the
sole  function is to keep messages that absolutely, positively do not 
need
to  be scanned out of the scanning path. There are no false positives 
with
recipient validation, so it's an obvious first step in an anti-abuse 
chain.


5XXSINK  is  multithreaded  and  likely  performs  its very particular
function as fast as practically possible.

   * * *

Download:


http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/5xxsink/download/release

   Be sure to go over the README in-depth. That's where it's at.


Support:

   Through  the  IMail  and Declude support lists, as the communities
   primarily  served by the product. Please post support questions as
   [OT]  to  create  a  public  archive  and  to  encourage knowledge
   sharing.

--Sandy







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Re: [sniffer] Watch out... SURBL & SORBS full of large ISPs and Antispamprovidres.

2006-01-17 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)

Pete,

I just checked real quick hitting several DNS servers (mine and others) and 
I am not seeing this - are you still seeing this now?


C:\>nslookup 2.0.0.127.multi.surbl.org
Server:  nscache5.bflony.adelphia.net
Address:  68.168.224.180

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:2.0.0.127.multi.surbl.org
Address:  127.0.0.126


C:\>nslookup declude.com.multi.surbl.org
Server:  nscache5.bflony.adelphia.net
Address:  68.168.224.180

*** nscache5.bflony.adelphia.net can't find declude.com.multi.surbl.org: 
Non-exi

stent domain

C:\>nslookup w3.org.multi.surbl.org
Server:  nscache5.bflony.adelphia.net
Address:  68.168.224.180

*** nscache5.bflony.adelphia.net can't find w3.org.multi.surbl.org: 
Non-existent

domain



Darrell

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- Original Message - 
From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Watch out... SURBL & SORBS full of large ISPs and 
Antispamprovidres.




Pete,

w3.org would be a huge problem because Outlook will insert this in the XML 
headers of any HTML generated E-mail.


If you could give us an idea of when this started and possibly ended, that 
would help in the process of review.


Thanks,

Matt



Pete McNeil wrote:


Hello Sniffer Folks,

 Watch out for false positives. This morning along with the current
 spam storm we discovered that SURBL and SORBs are listing a large
 number of ISP domains and anti-spam service/software providers.

 As a result, many of these were tagged by our bots due to spam
 arriving at our system with those domains and IPs. Most IPs and
 domains for these services are coded with "nokens" in our system to
 prevent this kind of thing, but a few slipped through.

 We are aggressively hunting any more that might have arrived.

 You may want to temporarily reduce the weight of the experimental IP
 and experimental ad-hoc rule groups until we have identified and
 removed the bad rules we don't know about yet.

 Please also do your best to report any false positives that you do
 identify so that we can remove any bad rules. I don't expect that
 there will be too many, but I do want to clear them out quickly if
 they are there.

 Please also, if you haven't already, review the false positive
 procedures: 
http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/FalsePositivesHelp.html


 Pay special attention to the rule-panic procedure and feature in
 case you are one of the services hit by these bad entries.

 An example of some that we've found in SURBL for example are
 declude.com, usinternet.com, and w3.org

 It's not clear yet how large the problem is, but I'm sure it will be
 resolved soon.

 Hope this helps,

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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Re: [sniffer] Rash of false positives

2005-11-09 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)



It is used in both versions for different 
things.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Serge 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:27 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer] Rash of false 
  positives
  
  i thought declude.cfg is for V 3.x
  Am I wrong ? is declude.cfg used with V 2.x 
  ?
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
John Moore 

To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 
11:12 PM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Rash of false 
positives


Matt,
Thank you for your 
help and thorough explanation. I added the declude.cfg with the PROCESSES 
20
We are running 
declude 2.06 and have the JM pro and AV 
standard.
We will look into 
getting the persistent mode setup and see if that helps as 
well.
Thanks, 
again.
John
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of MattSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:49 
PMTo: sniffer@SortMonster.comSubject: Re: [sniffer] Rash of false 
positives
 
John,The mystery heap issue is a memory 
issue with Windows where it only reserves so much memory for running things 
like Declude, Sniffer, other external tests and your virus scanners.  
If you have something that is hanging, running slowly, or taking too long, 
it can gobble up all of the memory available to these launched processes and 
then result in errors.  Generally speaking, you can only get about 40 
or so processes of these types to run at one time before you could start 
seeing these errors.  Declude counts as one process, and often there is 
one other process that Declude launches that goes to this count (external 
tests and virus scanners are all run in serial so only one can be launched 
at a time by a single Declude process).  If you have something like a 
virus scanner that crashes and then pops up a window on your next login, 
this can count towards the number of open processes.You can specify 
in Declude how many processes to run before Declude starts dumping things 
into an overflow, either the overflow folder in 2.x and before, or something 
under proc in 3.x.  If you create a file called Declude.cfg and place 
in it "PROCESSES   20" that should protect you from hitting the 
mystery heap's limitations unless something is crashing and hanging.  
You might want to check Task Manager for processes to verify if things are 
hanging since not everything will pop up a window.I believe that 
running Sniffer in persistent mode will help to alleviate this condition, 
but it's only one part and if the mystery heap is the cause, it might just 
cause the errors to be triggered on other IMail launched processes including 
Declude.exe and your virus scanners.MattJohn Moore 
wrote: 

We have not  run snf2check on the 
updates. And it may be a coincidence or bad timing that sniffer appears to 
be the culprit. But we have stopped sniffer (commented out in the declude 
global.cfg) for an observed period of time and the mail never stops (and had 
never stopped before sniffer) and conversely, it only stops when sniffer is 
running.
We have not gone 
the extra steps of putting sniffer in persistent 
mode.
We are looking at 
moving the imail/declude/sniffer setup to a newer box with more 
resources.
Currently on a dell 
2450 dual 833 and 1 gig of ram and raid 5. Volume of email is less than 
10,000 emails per day.
J
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Darin 
CoxSent: Wednesday, 
November 09, 2005 1:47 PMTo: sniffer@SortMonster.comSubject: Re: Re[4]: [sniffer] Rash of 
false positives
 

Are corrupted 
rulebase files the culprit?   How do you update... and do you run 
snf2check on the updates?

 

Just wondering if 
the rulebase file is the problem, if the problem occurs during the 
update, or if you are running into obscure errors with the EXE 
itself

Darin.

 

 

- Original 
Message - 

From: John Moore 


To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 


Sent: 
Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:42 
PM

Subject: RE: 
Re[4]: [sniffer] Rash of false 
positives

 
We had this same 
thing happen.
It has been 
happening more frequently recently and we are looking into disabling sniffer 
as it seems to be the culprit each 
time.
John Moore305 
Sp

Re: [sniffer] Rash of false positives

2005-11-08 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
I too have had to submit a lot more false positives lately.  I also second 
that false positive processing seems to be a lot slower than previously. 


Darrell

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Scott Fisher writes: 


I don't know if I would call it a rash, but over the last week, I've submitted 
about 30 false positives. That's far more than average.
I've developed a feeling that Message Sniffer has become "too tight". 

- Original Message - 
  From: Darin Cox 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer] Rash of false positives 



  We're seeing a continual stream of false positives.  It's taking all of our time just to keep up with it at the moment.  If something isn't done soon, we're going to have to disable sniffer. 

  Darin. 



  - Original Message - 
  From: Computer House Support 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer] Rash of false positives 



  Dear Darin, 

  Thanks for the heads up.  It's going to take me about 45 minutes to check the 9000 messages that were blocked by Sniffer last night, but I'll let you know if we experienced the same thing. 



  Michael Stein
  Computer House
  www.computerhouse.com 

- Original Message - 
From: Darin Cox 
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: [sniffer] Rash of false positives 



Hi Pete, 

What's going on over there?  We had somewhere between 5 and 10 times the usual number of Sniffer false positives this morning.  They are across the board, so it's not just one rule that's catching them, or a particular set of senders or receivers. 

Hopefully you can get it under control soon. 

It would also be extremely helpful if you could speed up the false positive processing.  Lately it seems to take 2-4 days for the rules to be adjusted, which usually means more of the same are caught and submitted over that time.  I believe speeding up that process would result in fewer to process all around. 

Thanks, 

Darin. 





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Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Resources

2005-09-08 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
How does AVAFTERJM help?  Unless you had JunkMail delete the message it 
would seem that it has to be scanned for viruses either way.


This is more appropriate on the Declude list - but with that said you are 
correct in order for it to make a major impact you need to have actions that 
either hold, delete, or bounce for this to make a huge difference.


I don't know which uses more processor time... Virus or SPAM scanning.  If 
you use a bunch of tests it probably takes more horsepower to scan for 
SPAM than viruses.  If that's the case then it would see like you would 
want to virus scan FIRST.  Any message deleted by the virus scanner don't 
need to be scanned for SPAM.


Couple of things to keep in mind.  One such thing is virus scanner - if you 
use Mcafee it is VERY resource intensive so this helps alot.  The other 
thing which complements the first point is that most normal servers have 
approx 95%+ spam volume and if you don't have to virus scan 95% of mail than 
it saves a lot of resources.


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Re: [sniffer] Sniffer taking a long time?

2005-08-01 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
What kind of box are you running Sniffer on and what is your CPU.  I have 
found that most of the messages that get scanned on my system by Sniffer are 
done in under a second. 


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Dan Horne writes: 


More info:  When I stop the Sniffer service, processing time goes to
milliseconds.  Start the service back and it is back up to a minute.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:58 AM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Sniffer taking a long time? 

Here are the sniffer log entries for each of the messages, if 
that helps
any: 

 
> 08/01/2005 11:32:51.747 Q40a201cc1a59 SNIFFER: External program

> started: M:\IMail\Sniffer2\Distribution\Winx\mysniffer.exe
> mysnifferauthcode S:\imail\spool\D40a201cc1a59.SMD
> 08/01/2005 11:33:46.751 Q40a201cc1a59 SNIFFER: External program 
> reports exit code of 61 


20050801153252  D40a201cc1a59.SMD   70  20  
Match   266707
61  343 358 50
20050801153252  D40a201cc1a59.SMD   70  20  
Match   426427
61  1915192950
20050801153252  D40a201cc1a59.SMD   70  20  
Final   266707
61  0   502050
  


> 08/01/2005 11:30:53.757 Q402b01b61a28 SNIFFER: External program
> started: M:\IMail\Sniffer2\Distribution\Winx\mysniffer.exe
> mysnifferauthcode S:\imail\spool\D402b01b61a28.SMD
> 08/01/2005 11:31:48.210 Q402b01b61a28 SNIFFER: External program 
> reports exit code of 52 


20050801153054  D402b01b61a28.SMD   80  10  
Match   372669
52  2745286060
20050801153054  D402b01b61a28.SMD   80  10  
Match   423177
61  2695303660
20050801153054  D402b01b61a28.SMD   80  10  
Match   372652
61  2695313860
20050801153054  D402b01b61a28.SMD   80  10  
Final   372669
52  0   495260
 
> 08/01/2005 11:30:56.561 Q402a01cc1a27 SNIFFER: External program

> started: M:\IMail\Sniffer2\Distribution\Winx\mysniffer.exe
> mysnifferauthcode S:\imail\spool\D402a01cc1a27.SMD
> 08/01/2005 11:31:51.074 Q402a01cc1a27 SNIFFER: External program 
> reports exit code of 0 


20050801153056  D402a01cc1a27.SMD   190 40  
White   137999
0   2256228544
20050801153056  D402a01cc1a27.SMD   190 40  
Final   137999
0	0	24419	44 

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Re: [sniffer] Spam blocks loading me up with spam

2005-06-16 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)



Scott,
 
Not to many incoming for me - about 200 out of 
about 125K messages.  One thing to note is the ones I am getting are around 
that block but even lower like 200.49.44.x.
 
Darrell
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Parsers.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott 
  Fisher 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:04 
  PM
  Subject: [sniffer] Spam blocks loading me 
  up with spam
  
   
  Am I the only one getting blasted by these spam 
  from these IP blocks? Sniffer seems a little behind on catching 
  these.
   
  200.49.48.0/24  200.49.48.0/24 
  200.49.49.0/24  200.49.49.0/24  mowz2.com  200.49.50.0/24  200.49.50.0/24  qckcstmr.com  
  200.49.51.0/24  200.49.51.0/24  srvdupfrsh.com  200.49.52.0/24  200.49.52.0/24  aahtv.com  200.49.53.0/24  200.49.53.0/24  aakai.com  
  200.49.54.0/24  200.49.54.0/24  aakib.com  200.49.55.0/24  200.49.55.0/24  aakli.com  200.49.56.0/24  200.49.56.0/24  aafix.com  200.49.57.0/24  200.49.57.0/24  e.com  
  200.49.58.0/24  200.49.58.0/24  200.49.59.0/24  200.49.59.0/24
   
  Domain names and links seem to be five chars 
  beginning with aa. They also seem to be progressing through 
  the IP blocks.  
   
  i think they started in on the June 15th and have 
  been spamming pretty consistantly.


Re: [sniffer] Spam blocks loading me up with spam

2005-06-16 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)



Scott,
 
Not to many incoming for me - about 200 out of 
about 125K messages.  One thing to note is the ones I am getting are around 
that block but even lower like 200.49.44.x.
 
Darrell
---Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for 
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Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log 
Parsers.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott 
  Fisher 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:04 
  PM
  Subject: [sniffer] Spam blocks loading me 
  up with spam
  
   
  Am I the only one getting blasted by these spam 
  from these IP blocks? Sniffer seems a little behind on catching 
  these.
   
  200.49.48.0/24  200.49.48.0/24 
  200.49.49.0/24  200.49.49.0/24  mowz2.com  200.49.50.0/24  200.49.50.0/24  qckcstmr.com  
  200.49.51.0/24  200.49.51.0/24  srvdupfrsh.com  200.49.52.0/24  200.49.52.0/24  aahtv.com  200.49.53.0/24  200.49.53.0/24  aakai.com  
  200.49.54.0/24  200.49.54.0/24  aakib.com  200.49.55.0/24  200.49.55.0/24  aakli.com  200.49.56.0/24  200.49.56.0/24  aafix.com  200.49.57.0/24  200.49.57.0/24  e.com  
  200.49.58.0/24  200.49.58.0/24  200.49.59.0/24  200.49.59.0/24
   
  Domain names and links seem to be five chars 
  beginning with aa. They also seem to be progressing through 
  the IP blocks.  
   
  i think they started in on the June 15th and have 
  been spamming pretty consistantly.


Re: [sniffer] MDLP Tests

2005-04-02 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
>>Also, perhaps I am misunderstanding the data, but SNIFFER has a SQ of
>>.802 - isn't that relatively "bad" ?

Most people do not have single tests that mark the message as spam.  Sniffer
has the tendancy to hit on messages where others tests do not.  So for
example on my system Sniffer may hit and mark the messgae with a weight of 8
and we tag at 10.  So in this case the message is marked per MDLP standards
as "ham" when in deed the message was "spam".

Sniffer is very effective...

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Re: [sniffer] mini-obfuscation

2005-03-23 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
Pete, 

Doesnt Sniffer have a certain level of support for regex's?  I know we have 
had good luck with regex's like this which catch obfuscation techniques with 
viagra with Declude.  We found it easier to use regex's than to list all of 
the different variations. 

(?:\b|\s)[_\W]{0,3}(?:\\\/|V)[_\W]{0,3}[ij1!|l\xEC\xED\xEE\xEF][_\W]{0,3}[a4 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],3}[xyz]?[gj][_\W]{0,3}r[_\W]{0,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
3}x?[_\W]{0,3}(?:\b|\s) 

Darrell

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Pete McNeil writes: 

On Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 8:31:07 PM, Andrew wrote: 

 

CA> How many times have we all been frustrated that a piece of spam ending
CA> up in *OUR* mailbox that was s close in content to spam we whacked
CA> yesterday? 

CA> I thought the top "n" obfuscations might be interesting to look at, and
CA> perhaps a shortcut  (temporary, albeit) for spam catching.  I thought we
CA> might see whether, for example, broken URLs, fake comments, or high-bit
CA> ASCII character substitutions were the obfuscation technique du jour. 

Here you hit it IMHO. The reality appears to be, from my experience,
that small domains of obfuscation patterns rise and fall like swells
on the ocean. That is, stability tends to arise in one domain of
message characteristics and then fall to rise in another domain.
Sometimes the domain is well understood and sometimes it is entirely
new and forces us to think differently about what a "feature" really
is. 

By domain I mean things like message structure, word obfuscation
techniques, phrase based swapping, html exploitation, etc... 

The "du jour" part of your statement is a key element to the problem.
Defining and re-defining the conceptual framework that describes
feature domains in the spam is the other key element. 

Put more simply - knowing what to look for is a basic element, but it
gets you nowhere on it's own. Knowing (recognizing) when to look for
the "what" is the key that makes the problem workable. 

CA> I while back curiousity got the better of me (it was raining, and
CA> I had a few days off) and I did a few grep sweeps on a warm spam
CA> corpus. 

CA> I was disappointed in my success rate for: 

CA> v.?i.?a.?g.?r.?a.? 

CA> and similar queries with deliberately substitutions (e.g. using a "1"
CA> for "i").  I started writing a grep-generating-permutation engine and
CA> decided my time was better spent on scritching my cat under his chin. 

That is a nifty direction that I wish I had more time for. Perhaps I
will some day soon when Sniffer get's slashdotted and sales go through
the roof! 

--- meantime, back on this planet, I suggested a very similar thing to
Paul Graham at the first spam conference at MIT. As I recall he said
it was "ambitious" - a description that I have learned has a special
meaning in scientific circles. Something having to do with avian swine
and snowballs that have successful careers as tour guides in hell. 

One of these days I think I might do it anyway, just to prove the
point, but in the mean time I too prefer to spend more time with my
cat. ;-) 

Don't get me wrong - I strongly believe it can be done this way, but
it requires much more than good technology. It runs right into one of
the biggest problems with AI and, perhaps more importantly, people's
expectations of AI. No matter how good the pattern learning system
might be it will always lack the human experience. Computers don't
date or gain weight - so they have a hard time understanding what much
of the spam is "about" simply by looking at the patterns. That's why
the Message Sniffer process is designed with people tightly integrated
into the system. 

_M 

 

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Re: [sniffer] OT - Microsoft Patch Day - Exchange and SMTP updates

2005-02-10 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
The MS04-35 reissue some how slipped under the radar yesterday of the other 
patches..  So far no public exploits for that.  However, SANS is indicating 
POC code has been released for MS05-05/09. 

So far for the cycle I patched one LOW volume production mail server and one 
standby server.  Both of those are showing no issues.  Anyone else apply 
these yet? 

Darrell

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Colbeck, Andrew writes: 

Hello, all. 

Aside from the usual Internet Explorer and Office patches, this patch
cycle also includes an update to the October update MS04-035 which
affects a DNS query vulnerability in the SMTP handling in Windows
2000/2003 as well as Exchange 2003. 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-035.mspx 

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[sniffer] invURIBL (SURBL URI Query) Important Notice On Beta 4

2005-01-10 Thread Darrell (supp...@invariantsystems.com)
After working with Andy we found that a DLL was missing out of our beta 4 
package.  If you downloaded invURIBL for the first time as Beta 4 you may be 
missing a DLL that was not included in that specific package.  This DLL is 
used for additional mime decoding. 

I would recommend that everyone who downloaded Beta 4 please do so again as 
the package has been corrected to include the DLL. - 
http://www.invariantsystems.com/invuribl/default.htm 

We also recommend if you are using invURIBL that you please join the list 
serve for the application to stay informed on its status 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 

Again, I am sorry for the inconvenience.
Darrell 

Andy Schmidt writes: 

Hi Phil: 

A) I just corrected a bug in the setup of invURIBL (which is used to test
again SURBL).  I don't know yet what the impact is - but I BELIEVE that
bug had caused more messages to be tagged than should have. Thus, the
results were skewed, but I won't know until tomorrow by what degree.


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