AW: [RCSE] Canards or something else

1999-08-13 Thread Vavra Thomas EEV/OE-OR

Great I'll try this method (not on a Zagi but on another ship which has very
nasty slowspeed handling characteristics.). Whats a Kayser-flap?

regards

Thomas

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Von: Tord [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 12. August 1999 22:20
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Cc: Zagi list; RCSE
Betreff: [RCSE] Canards or something else

For those not flying combat with your Zagi 400 a slat on the leading edge
might
the answer to the awful spinning some of us have experienced, then only the
outer 
half of the span. How, you might ask, does one make them?

A friend uses a simple method: Finish the wing. Soak a
suitable sized thin balsa sheet (or rather two pieces) in hot water
till very soft (or leave in water - submerged - overnight). Tape it to
the part of the leading edge where you want your fixed slat and let to dry -
a few days if the climate is cool :-)! Now you have a perfectly curved
piece of balsa sheet. Just add small balsa supports, that you in this case 
can stick into the EPP leading edge and glue into place. The ideal width
of a slat is often discussed, as is the ideal placement, but his are about
10% of the chord wide and seems to be aligned with the leading edge or
slightly below. To toughen the balsa you varnish them and cover them with
your favourite covering - paper is one good material, if applied with
the varnish, as it strengthens the balsa a lot. Some small RC heicopters
have their rotor blades made that way! 

Suffice to say the slats on my friend's aircraft seem to make them very 
easy to handle at very low speeds and slats are known to be good against
spins! 

To apply them to flying wings is probably a bit of an unchartered territory.

Kaiser flaps are maybe easier, but need a servo, or two!

Tord,
Sweden

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Re: [RCSE] RTF r/c electric glider for beginn...

1999-08-13 Thread Charles French



Another good choice for beginners is the Push-E Cat. An all EPP speed 400 
motor glider. We've had a couple of folks learn on the Push-E at our filed. 
The biggest benefit is the minimum down time from a crash something that 
seems to discourage a lot of beginners.

You could even make an aileron version.

Web site is at;

http://www.rc-aero.com/kits/pushe/



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Re: [RCSE] Contest formats

1999-08-13 Thread Marc Gellart


The format
was psuedo-F3J, basically F3J with winches, skegs and teeth.  To summarize,
the format was a 10-minute slot for each flight group, one relaunch
allowed, last flight to count, FAI landing tape (5 points per meter),
scores normalized within the flight group.  There were 25 flyers
ranging from novices to world-class.




Wayne et al,
We have done this in Dayton and had a blast, it is to bad that the
powers to be (ie. FAI and the English) could not have come up with this in
the first place.  Real simple, sponsoring body has winches, 11 minute
window, play F3J.  At the Nats we could have flown two rounds more, or been
done earlier, if winches were used and not lines, plus the facts that in the
finals everyone would not have been looking for help.  I had a blast flying
F3J at the Nats, thanks to team member Rudy and Paul, you do get into those
two man tows(but jees, there gone too!).  But true F3J IMHO has all the
hallmarks of other European activities, lots of effort for little results.

Marc Gellart, Lima, OH



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[RCSE] Bozo Wants to Know...Top Ten of USA Soaring

1999-08-13 Thread Bagswereus

If you were to build a list of the all time top ten guys of USA R/C soaring 
who would they be? USA RC soaring has been in place for what, some thirty 
years...
Well, guys who is one the list?
Now, so you don't have to work to hard I'll make it easy for you...
Bozo should be placed near the bottom of the list...say in 9th place...God 
knows how humble I am...
E-mail me your lists...I will compile...
Bozo
F3B practice this Saturday at Sulacome by and  pull a few lines...drink a 
few beers and buy your Team Tee Shirts... see ya...
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[RCSE] New F3F toys!!

1999-08-13 Thread Tom Copp

I just received my Pike F3F/B and Kobra F3F (not that cobra!) from Samba
today. The Pike looks real good, 3 piece wing V tail etc. etc.. Fit and
finish is very good. All wipers and live hinges (top hinge flap 60~65
deg down) finished. They come with all nutplates/pushrods installed and
include all hardware and even the allen wrenches!

The little Kobra F3F (100 in) is real cute. 2 piece wing with a poly
break, one piece stab w/ elevator, T tail, all molded even the rudder.
Pre assembled tail linkages/ pushrods w/4 ballast tubes in the wing
roots. This thing breaks down flat to fit into a 50 in box. I think the
Kobra will make a very nice full house travel model. 
Both have mod (thinned) RG 15 foils.

I am looking forward to test flying them soon. Flight report coming!!
Tom
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Re: [RCSE] Bozo Wants to Know...Top Ten of USA Soaring

1999-08-13 Thread Lynford Disbrow

Bozo:

There is an old guy that flies down in the park and he is always getting
kids to fly his old built-up glider. I guess he has taught a hundred
kids and others to fly.  He doesn't fly much because someone else always
has his old Futaba, he doesn't do precision landings but he most always
lands in the grass. I don't know his name but he should be in the top
ten.  What do you think?

Lynford 
Reno Flightline
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Re: [RCSE] Bozo Wants to Know...Top Ten of USA Soaring

1999-08-13 Thread Jason Werner

Bozo,
#1 for me - Lee Renaud.  He may not have been the best pilot, not have
been the best flier, and may not have won the best contests...but he did
more for RC and soaring specifically than pretty much any single person in
my memory.  I know that many who had the chance to meet him would agree.

Jason Werner

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Re: [RCSE] RDS pockets

1999-08-13 Thread David J. Schat

David,

The idea was brought up

I think you missed one of the comments about retailers and stocking. How
would they know what sizes to carry? This is especially hard with a new
item with no sales history.

I think a better idea would be to include some pocket making supplies with
the RDS. How 'bout it Harley?

At 10:01 PM 8/12/1999 -0400, you wrote:
I agree that I would not want to buy a package
with a bunch of sizes I wasn't going to use.

Perhaps it is remotely conceivable that different sizes could be sold
individuallyoh there I go again, thinking out of the box! Call the
model police!
 

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Re: [RCSE] Bozo Wants to Know...Top Ten of USA Soaring

1999-08-13 Thread Rich Hollyday

You guys from TOSS (Thousand Oaks Soaring Society), do you know an older
flier by the name of Norm? You honored him about 1991 or so with an award.
He flies on the slope above the water tank near downtown. Let me know if
you know him.

He got me started in RC soaring, what a great guy. Patient, honest, devoted
to his hobby.

Rich Hollyday
Raleigh, NC

At 10:06 AM 8/13/99 EDT, you wrote:
If you were to build a list of the all time top ten guys of USA R/C soaring 
who would they be? 
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Re: [RCSE] RDS pockets

1999-08-13 Thread Harley Michaelis



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 From: David J. Schat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I think a better idea would be to include some pocket making supplies
with
 the RDS. How 'bout it Harley?

I had suggested that 1/2" wide strips of thin Formica be provided in the
package. However, not knowing what size aircraft might be involved and
considering that 3/8" or 3/4" widths would be more appropriate for smaller
or larger aircraft, this was deemed impractical. Also, I had suggested
commercial shim stock be provided for spacer material. However, WHAT
THICKNESS considering the variety of wire sizes that might be used? Also
who is supposed to cut this stuff the right sizes and get the edges free of
burrs, assuming we knew what the "right sizes" were? 

I had also suggested an "expandable" pocket that could be made to work on
1/32" wire, with shims in increments of 1/32" to open it to receive up to
1/8" wire. This was all deemed too costly, too complex, and impractical
considering that wire sizes that are supposed to be identical, do actually
vary enough to be unusable with a given sized opening.

Fellas. .be happy! We got a molded coupler that works! What is the big deal
about joining Formica and balsa with CA to make a pocket? Should anyone who
can't do that really be flying an RC aircraft?

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[RCSE] There will not be a kegger at Sula

1999-08-13 Thread Bagswereus

There will not be a kegger at Sula this Sat at 7pm. There will be no band and 
there will be no music...there will be no dancin girls...there will be  no  
Free Steak cookout...so stop sending me e-mails asking about this stuff.
No Beer Bozo 
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Re: [RCSE] Molded RDS pockets. . .problems.

1999-08-13 Thread Keith M. Skye

Right on Dave!

Keith


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