Re: [RCSE] Re: Hitec 555 radios
Oops. U. My head was still spinning from the flying yesterday. Is that a good excuse? Randy There is also a different phase shift in the radio signal. If I remember correctly, Futaboo is negative shift and Airtronics is positive. Read his message again - he had already grouped into modulation shift categories, and was asking what ELSE caused the difference! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Xmiter/Receiver crystals
I was told that if you wanted to swap out your transmitter crystal that you had to be a licensed class whatever radio person. I was further told that a radio needs to be tuned and checked before its safe for use and AMA will not cover radio setups where the crystal has been changed out. From my backround: A crystal is a crystal is a crystal what they say on the case is what they are, and I believe that any transmitter can have any channel thats available for that frequency. AS long as I replace the crystals with the appropriate air/ground freq and on the same 2 channels, I believe that all should be ok. Am I on drugs or is the other person that told me what I said above? Tim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Team support - 3 questions
Spoken like a true Champ. World Class! Keith M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Team support - 3 questions
Daryl (I'm not going to say anything again) Perkins Keep your promise, and give us a short synopsis of your experiences. That will: 1. put a lot of other stuff out of mind. 2. edify us tyros (particularly your delicious splat). (-: THE General RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Team support - 3 questions
Daryl, Your sign off, leaves us with a desire. You earlier said you would enlighten us with some of what went on in S.A. during the F3B Worlds and how you retained your WC status, here on RCSE. I know you and some others are on the spot about this flap, that will pass, but don't shut us out from the story of your new speed record, and your WC accomplishments. Jerry Miller, SOSS Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Repairabilty (was: First Open Class Plane)
I beg to differ on repairabilty. Ease of repair has more to do with familiarity and available tools. After building my first vac-bagged composite ship eight years ago, I stopped the wood "habit". Composite is easy, economical, strong, light and best of all -- damage remained localized and simple to repair. It's just that repair technique is worlds apart from wood. I've resurrected, with only nominal effort, sailplanes that might have been splintered a thousand ways if wood and/or obechi. Wood building tool are inexpensive but material is pricey. Composite tools are more expensive but that is offset by very economical materials. If a person is a newbie (or newer-bie, anyhow) they may be as unfamiliar with wood repair technique as any other. Steering someone away from EITHER construction method based on personal skills (yours or mine) or preconceived notions (yours or mine) should get some forethought. Everyone's different, and wood and I just don't get along well together. For my flying buddy, he is a wizard with wood (I'm somewhat jealous). Thanx for the use of your soapbox. I'm stepping down now (before I fall off...). [help! i've fallen and I can't get up] Dan deVries DEVRIES DESIGN, Inc. Product Design --+-- Patent/Litigation Graphics ___ _ |___ 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is one other thing I should mention , Composite Wings are probably not a good choice for someone new to flying a 6 servoed open class plane. They don't take abuse well. ( cartwheel landings etc. ) Wood skinned wings are much easier to repair. Nothing is more frustrating than to have a damaged plane and to not have any idea as to how to repair it . Here again experienced flyers might forget what it's like to NOT have that knowledge. OK I will step down from my SoapBox now. Jim Bonk RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Diamant Owners Unite!
Diamant Owners Unite! I'm looking for owners of the imported all molded 96" full house TD ship called the Diamant. I'm curious to see how many people have one, how it flies, how you set it up, and what you do about repairs and parts. I recently had a custom wing rod fabricated for mine, (thank you Don Richmond), and will be taking first flights soon. Cheers, Nathan Woods Temple Hill Slope Squadron Orange, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the THSS Website at: http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Sponsorship Factoids
Oops! Almost forgot CST, who sponsored the materials for the airplanes that I built for Joe and myself. Thanks again, CST! Gordon At 08:14 AM 9/20/99 -0700, Gordon Jennings wrote: Hey Y'all, Here are the sponsorship deals at play. I leave it up to you to decide if anybody should be whining. Jacket Spot #1: Airtronics sponsors Daryl, Joe and (from time to time, not sure about current status) Steve. We all got loaner 35 MHz gear (modules and receivers). Jacket Spot #2: Multiplex sponsored Steve and I (with reduced cost servos), and Multiplex paid for the team jackets (a not too cheap item). Here's the big scoop - for those of you that might not have heard, Karlton is Multiplex (a well kept secret). Jacket Spot #3: Lockheed-Martin Skunk Works gave us much needed cashola. Plus this cool laser guided radio jammer thing that, oh well, never mind... And then the rest of you, who graciously donated time, money and sweat but neither likeness nor trademark graced the jackets. Thanks to everybody for everything, including slapping whiners where they stand. Gordon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RE: More F3B
Okay, Enough of this... lets just kiss and make up and be on our merry way. So, who is going to Visalia? Let's focus on our upcoming pilgrimage to no-where's land!!! Where landing down wind is an art, just watch out for those dust devils... What will be in the Raffle??? At 11:38 AM 9/20/99 -0700, Karlton Spindle wrote: I think the 24 hour rule would be a good one! As for trying to plug my products, I was not when I asked a question if Daryl's plane had MPX servos in it. You may be surprised to find out that Airtronics had already given permission for the two Airtronics sponsored pilots to use MPX for the worlds. I just asked a simple question not brash not boastful not plugging a simple question and people went off including pilots who are asking me to sponsor them. Now why would I sponsor them after this? Daryl and I have talked in the past and I would NEVER do anything that would hurt his or anyone's existing sponsorships. In fact we have always enjoyed a fun time with stickers on planes. PLEASE lets move on Smooth Thermals, Karlton Spindle MrMPX http://www.MultiplexRC.com He didn't. Re-read Darryl's original post. Karlton comes off a bit brash sometimes. He means well, but his tone betrays him. I think Darryl just was annoyed that Karlton may have been "plugging" his product when he knows darn well that Daryl is a Airtronics sponsored pilot. This type of misrepresentation can cost Daryl his sponsorship if unchecked RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] SULA Triad HLG Results
Sorry Browne, this new one is whacked too. Although I would love to move up to second place, I remember well the fact that I flew against Sensei in heat two of the killer round 5. He buried us all, but you scored him in the first group and buried them instead. Could we impose on you to try a third time just for the sake of the Triad points? We had a great time and appreciate your hard work and the huge dust devils after the show :-) Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[RCSE] SULA Triad HLG Results The results of the SULA Leg of the HLG Triad are posted on the SUL:A web site; http://members.aol.com/sulaclub/page/SULACLUB_sPage.HTM Just follow the link to the Triad results. Note that there have been some changes to the results as announced at the contest yesterday, and some of the trophy winners were not correct. I apologize for the computer problems that resulted in these errors. Browne Goodwin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] New Laser 2MC
Hi All, After finally finding time to finish my new Laser 2MC from NSP I got to break in this weekend my favorite way, take a couple of trim flights and enter a contest. Although my results weren't as impressive as Daryl's I do really like this new plane. I have not officially weighed it but in weighing all the pieces separately it cam out to be around 33 oz. It launches extremely well and has a really impressive sink rate for a 2M size glider. On my initial hand toss the glider just flew right out of my hand and I did not have to do a thing for it to just glide out smoothly and land basically all by itself. My first winch launch was totally uneventful as well. All I have done so far from the initial set up is to move the tow hook back about 3/8 inch and take a 1/4 oz of lead out of the nose. The overall kit quality is very good to excellent as would be expected from Sal. Oh and BTW I did manage to take 6th place in the contest out of 18 while flying against some of the top pilots from KS, OK and TX. No, I am not getting any special deals to write this post, in fact this was the first glider I had ever purchased from Sal but can assure you it won't be the last. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] spoilers
I have a question about sailplane design and hope this is the correct forum. With all the discussion of politics and personalities, one can never be sure. ;-) This discussion is focused on open class, large sailplanes. If I understand it correctly, dropping flaps results in increased lift and increased drag. So when the flaps are down, the plane slows down but has relatively high lift for the speed. Then if the flaps are raised, the drag goes away, but so does the lift and the plane drops out of the air. Hopefully this happens a few inches above the ground immediately over a landing line. Given the same plane cruising in, if one were to raise spoilers instead of dropping flaps, the plane slows down and lift is destroyed. The plane slows down and starts to descend. If at that point the spoilers are retracted the plane is going slow, but the lift is increased relative to the spoiler deployed setting. It seems that you could maintain a higher degree of control using spoilers instead of flaps for a final and not risk striping gears on flap servos. Is this true? Bottom-line question. With modern radios and the availability of lots of channels and light weight servos, why don't more open class planes use spoilers as an option for speed control Just curious. Thanks for all opinions and discussions. Bill -- The one good thing about repeating your mistakes is that you know when to cringe. Bill Johns Pullman, Washington USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Parker Mtn. invaded by NoCal fliers
We have finally rebuffed the NoCal invasion, where Scott Hewett, Dave Reese, and Craig Toutelman (sp?) took over Parker for the last four days for many hours of DS, foamie flying, and general slopus carnagie. On Sunday, some of us were wondering what was wrong, when we did not have any composite ship impacts for up to 30 minute stretches (there were some great debris spreading impacts!). The NoCal invasion was buttressed by Robert Cavasos, Brian Laird, and Carl on Sunday, but were defeated quickly due to running out of material to sacrifice to the DS gods. Joe Wurts PS For those of you that might not understand my sometimes unusual sense of humor, the above was written with tongue firmly in cheek . We all had a great time flying this weekend, with lots of fast toys going around in various indescribably shaped manuevers. Mr. Hewitt was even spotted flying EPP (the tape of him asking to fly Mr. Reeses foamie is gonna cost him dearly...). I was pretty impressed with the stick twiddling skills of the NoCal invaders. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Unidirectional Carbon Handling
Hi All, I'm just about to lay-up a few HLG wings and am using Unidirectional Carbon for the darts. This is the first time that I am using this stuff and was wondering if there was a really good way of handling it without getting all the strands all messed up while trying to place it and wet it out? I'd really appreciate any input. I was thinking about using something to hold the carbon down while I cut it into darts and then transfer it onto the wing, or glass, using something sticky (3M Spray 77?). Also if anyone out there has any experience laying up HLG wings I'd like to hear their inputs of do's and don'ts. Especially any input on LE edge doublers.. Thanks in advance, Mike Berends RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RE: More F3B
In a message dated 9/20/99 8:19:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, Enough of this... lets just kiss and make up and be on our merry way. I agree. I think its sad to see friends fight. So in an effort to help everyone out I will accept sponsorship from any company, for any products. I will proudly display their log everywhere. I will always say good things about their products. I won't fight with anyone on the exchange. I know this won't be easy, but for the good of this exchange, and R/C soaring everywhere, I will do it. altruistically- Kristopher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Corrected SULA HLG Scores
Derek Boyer has shown great sportsmanship in pointing out another error in the results of yesterday's hlg contest, the correction of which slips him back to Third Expert and places Paul Anderson back in second. The trophies as awarded were correct. Thanks to Derek for letting me know to correct the published results. They will be updated on the SULA web site. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Kicker toxic?
On my bottle of CA Accelerator It sales Warning: Combustible Liquid; Contains synthetic hydrocadeons and aromatic amine. Use with adequate ventilation. Avoid prolonged breathing of vapors. Do not induce vomiting if ingested. In case of eye or skin contact, flush with water. Keep out of reach of children. So I would say that it would be harmful toxic. The first time I used Thin CA with an Accelerator Was on two long pieces of 1/8 " sq hardwood. When I added the Accelerator, it looked like it was going to explode. It started popping, pouring out smoke, and a lot of little white like worms came out from between the hardwood. I thought it was going to burst into flames. The Accelerators on the market now, will not do this any more. The older Accelertors where very hard on you. The vapors would make my eyes, lungs burn. The new Accelerators don't. CA is not very good when exposed to water. It is not one of the recommended uses. I have had a friend say the baking soda works to make the CA set-up faster. But I have never tried it. Howard Rudy Salt Lake City, Ut. Bill Swingle wrote: Every time I use CyA accelerator, "kicker", I wonder what's in it and if it's harmful. What are the chemicals in "kicker"? Are they harmful or toxic? Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pleasanton, CA p.s. Is there any truth to the rumor that plain water can be used as an accelerator? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Poway BOMBER Combat Results
Hi all-- Well, here they are--the results for the Bomber Combat event that Jerry allowed us to stage at his very successful and fun Poway Combat Slope Race. Thanks Jerry for all the support! Before I tell you the results, here is what the event was all about and the scoring details. The squadrons consisted of four members--one bomber pilot and three fighter/interceptor pilots. Two squadrons were launched for a five minute engagement. The bomber was any EPP plane with a 60" or larger wingspan. The fighter/interceptors were any 48" EPP plane. Scoring was one point for any contact with your opponent's bomber; five points for a kill on your opponent's bomber; one point for a kill on your opponent's fighter/interceptor. The bombers were not allowed to make any offensive maneuvers, only evasive maneuvers while flying the CSR course. Fighter/interceptors could stay with the bomber to protect it or attack the opposing bomber and fighters. It didn't take long before all of the fighters realized the bombers could do a decent job of evading the enemy. The bombers in our event were one Highlander and three 60" wings. The fighter/interceptors were mostly wings, with a couple of Bandits and ME-262s thrown in for realism. Two rounds were flown with the scores combined for the final score. While the first round was slow as strategies were formulated, the second round is where the action really heated up. The flying became much more aggressive and the crowd really got involved and cheered on their favorite squadron. If you are looking for a way to liven up your next event, this might just be the ticket. First Place: 29 Points Temple Hill Slope Squadron Bomber Commander: Woods Robinson Hitchborn Patton Second Place (Tie): 13 points Bomber Commander: Saunders Gillman Warner Brooks Bomber Commander: LaFontaine Burns Vozenilek Peterson Third Place: 11 Points Bomber Commander: Harts Campbell Woodfine Greenwood Thanks for your time. Dan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
