[RCSE] RE: EPP Racers

[Nathan & Marni Woods]

"What "makes" a good slope racer/aerobat?"
--
Great question Darwin.

Here at Temple Hill, we have seen a fair number of fast foamies, featuring
the home hill of several of the top EPP manufacturers, plus the noble and
successful efforts of a scratch built model by Mike Robinson.

What I have observed are the following desirable traits:
- Straight line speed
- Energy retention
- Stability in bumpy/gusty lift
- Tight turns
- Ballast bays (variable wing loading)
- Durable, not necessarily indestructible, but easily field repairable
- Easy to build by a doofus like me (meaning, incidence, CG, etc... is
predetermined)
- Stiff wings (DS'ing is inevitable with a fast foamie)

I'd recommend a detachable wing design, with multiple but very flimsy nylon
screws.

Also, the ability to pump up the aileron throws during sport (fun fly) mode
for killer aerobatics.  Inverted flight is a plus, but not at the sacrifice
of straight line speed that a symmetrical airfoil necessitates.

If you need more beta testers, I'd be more than happy to help you out :-)

Nathan  Woods
Temple Hill Slope Squadron
Orange, California


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[RCSE] Pico Jet?

[James V. Bacus]

http://www.multiplexrc.com/picojet.htm

Has anyone flown one of Karlton's foamie Pico Jets yet?  They look kind of 
fun...




Jim
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[RCSE] Hitec Strikes again!

[GRW]

Just another plug for Hitec for repairing my TX timely and without
charge.  Getting drilled by a Zagi would not fall under warranty
repairs, but they repaired it without sending a bill.  Thanks Hitec!

FYI Smiley Antenna's do fit the Flash 5sx, just a minor mod to get the
case back together.

--
Glenn R. Whitcomb
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[RCSE] On topic - soaring

[darylp]

Well folks, the parts are here. My new TD model has arrived. Well,
actually, I've been working on the fuse for a few days now. (It's almost
done) It's VERY stiff, and light. Carbon, and Kevlar reinforced s-glass
fuse. Came in at 7.1 ounces before I started playing with it. Looks like
the fuse, no joiner, but with stabs will be flying just under 20 ounces.
19.5 to be exact. The wings are 15 a side. With servos, we'll be looking
at 17 a side, so realistic total at 34.5. These things are very nice
bagged wing spotlanders. Kevlar hinges and all! I'm still waiting for
1/2 inch joiner - (Paul? D'ya get my e-mail?) Anyone know what those
things weigh? 

I'm guessing all up weight at 58 EASY.  

Span? Well I guess I could tell ya that - 120
Planform? Yes
Sections? I wouldn't even tell my mother what sections I put on this one

Name - "Neurotic" - s - it's just a little psyko

Don't call Sal about it. He won't sell ya one. I made him promise. 


Daryl - Can't wait for contest season - Perkins

PS - I won't be flying it at SWSA this weekend, so don't come out ;-)
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Re: [RCSE] "Wow! Did you see this month's RC Soaring Digest?"

[Moved by the wind.]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I currently have a setup using 4-40 nylon wing bolts for my HLG...
> Anybody know where I can get some?
>

Radio Shack had some nylon bolts last time I was there, BUT try supporting some of the 
guys that are on the list and have the
stuff.  You got to support the little guys or they stop making the really cool stuff 
you can get now.
My $.02


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Rich Border
Marguerite Prunyi
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Re: [RCSE] "Wow! Did you see this month's RC Soaring Digest?"

[Darwin N. Barrie]

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> I currently have a setup using 4-40 nylon wing bolts for my HLG, and during
> one mishap they popped, nicely saving the wing. I can't seem to find more,
> and don't really want to substitute steel which won't release.

Rodger,

If you are having trouble getting them I'll get them for you. Let me know the length 
and I'll send them out. Give me you address and
I'll have them in the mail by Friday.

Darwin N. Barrie
Scottsdale AZ

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[RCSE] RMSA f3b contest - Memorial day weekend - Denver, Colorado

[mark.howard]

YES! The entry form will be ready this week.
E-mail me to pre-reserve your frequency.
Mark
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: 1/2" x14" aluminum vs 20" CF Wing Joiner Rod


>And then put in a new blade.
>
>RMSA still up for the F3b contest?



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[RCSE] Micro Fasteners/ nylon wing bolts

[terrytrimble]

 http://www.microfasteners.com/
 here's a link to micro fastener the sell nylon screws 4/40 cheap I on line
order with Micro fastener all the time.
Later,
Terry Trimble
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Re: [RCSE] Music Wire For Wing Rod?

[WB6ZHD]

Music wire from the hobby shop will do fine for BOT wing rods. I used it on 
my last one, also my Vikings. 
Mike Clancy
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Re: [RCSE] Ideal wing surface texture

[Walter Lynch]

Back when I used to race Hobie 16s, one of the many racing tricks was to
sand off the gloss finish on the hulls with very fine grit sandpaper- this
resulted in a slightly faster boat- something along the lines of the guy
sanding his Pik-20 wings I guess.  Walter
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Ideal wing surface texture


>I have been made aware that sometimes a rough wing texture can indeed
>increase performance in full scale gliders.
>
>A few years ago, some tests were run on a PIK-20.  The tester then re
>did the wing and had sanded it down with 600 to true the surface.  He flew
>the glider and tested it just for grins.  He was surprised to find that the
>glider had a few more points of L/D.  When he finished the wing off with a
>gloss smooth finish, the points disappeared.  Hummm.
>
>
>  Maybe it would not be a big deal with the Lower R's in the model world.
>
>
>Andrew
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[RCSE] RE: EPP Slope Racers

[Darwin A. Garrison]

Hi, Guys:

I have been watching this thread with considerable interest.  I have
managed to take a look at a couple of web sites showing pictures of the
currently available "slope/aerobatic" models, and I find the entire
realm fascinating.

I am currently in the process of building an initial prototype of my own
concept, which is being made to a request from an individual in
California.  I have taken a completely different route than the other
models that have so far been available for review on the web.  Since I
don't slope, my flat land tests will involve bungee launches and high
speed diving.  After that, the prototype will journey to CA for some
real tests.

I am curious, however.  What "makes" a good slope racer/aerobat?  Is it
raw speed? Fast handling?  Energy retention?  How about the criteria for
an EPP racer?  Is "more durable" acceptable over "indestructible"?

I've already made my design choices for the first iteration (something
of a compromise on the above criteria), but I would welcome some insight
to carry with me during the test flight stages.

Regards,

Darwin Garrison
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[RCSE] 10-32 nylon bolts source.

[Harley Michaelis]

Micro-Fasteners carries first quality nylon bolts. The have 10-32 size in
2" lengths for $2.45 for FIFTY! No big deal to shorten them and sort of
rethread the ends in a T nut, etc. Talk to John.

--
> From: James T Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: soaring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] "Wow! Did you see this month's RC Soaring Digest?"
> Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:43 PM
> 
> been on a major nylon bolt search myself lately.  4-40's are locally
> (Sacramento area) at Lumberjack and home base.  Home depot has been
slowly
> going out of the specialty hardware biz it seems.  Ace HW also had 4-40s.
> 
> for a *real* challenge try to find 10-32 x 1" FH nylon for 60" slopers!
> 
> have fun
> jtm
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] "Wow! Did you see this month's RC Soaring Digest?"
> 
> 
> I currently have a setup using 4-40 nylon wing bolts for my HLG, and
during
> one mishap they popped, nicely saving the wing. I can't seem to find
more,
> and don't really want to substitute steel which won't release. (Do others
> use
> steel?) None of the local hobby shops have them, neither does Home Depot.
> Anybody know where I can get some?
> Rodger
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[RCSE] 4-40 nylon bolt source.

[Harley Michaelis]

Micro-Fasteners has them as low as $2.25 for fifty.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] "Wow! Did you see this month's RC Soaring Digest?"
> Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:21 PM
> 
> I currently have a setup using 4-40 nylon wing bolts for my HLG, and
during 
> one mishap they popped, nicely saving the wing. I can't seem to find
more, 
> and don't really want to substitute steel which won't release. (Do others
use 
> steel?) None of the local hobby shops have them, neither does Home Depot.

> Anybody know where I can get some?
> Rodger
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Re: [RCSE] BriskII and Spiro from ShredAir Report...

[Walter Lynch]

I also saw Bills Brisk fly off of a winch launch.  The plane seems like it
is not bad in the thermal dept. either.  There wasnt much lift but the Brisk
seemed to hang in there quite well.  Pretty impressive considering that not
only is the Brisk primarily a sloper but also Bill was flying a new plane
w/little or no stick time on it.  The Brisk certainly looks like a winner to
me also.  Boy, there are so many good planes out there to choose from now-
kinda makes ones head spin!   Walter
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Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:56 AM
Subject: [RCSE] BriskII and Spiro from ShredAir Report...


>Hello group!
>
>I finally had a chance to fly the Brisk II and Spiro (with glider nose)
that
>I purchased from Dieter @ Shredair last year. This is my unsolicited
opinion
>for those of you who might be considering one of these models...
>
>The wind was direct into our slope at an estimated 35-45 steady gusting to
>what was probably 60 mph (forgot the wind meter).
>
>The Brisk - awesome plane - incredible speed range - and a sheer pleasure
to
>fly. It tears up the sky and covers ground fast. I needed the whole slope
>(Zulu ridge - aka Red Rock is large) and truly enjoyed flying her until one
>of the aileron servos popped loose from it's mount (epoxy). Landed without
>damage though...amazing how quick this plane is with just the supplied 13
oz.
>ballast rod. Fit and finish are perfect...she's a keeper.
>
>The Spiro - I have both electric and glider noses and have built the glider
>nose with about 14 oz. of lead in the nose to similate a geared motor and
>controller. The RX and RX battery reside in the fuselage rear of the wing
sadd
>le. Adding ballast is simple as the fuse is large (27 cells should be no
>problem). I flew her with 12 oz. ballast.
>
>I was delighted to find that for the first time in a long time the plane
was
>ahead of me - 1/2 step or so. I was challenged. The Spiro picks up speed
>quick and carries incredible energy. Twice I lost her (flew through the
sun)
>and got lucky finding her before mother earth did. Rolls are not quite
axial
>but quick and crisp. This is the fastest plane I think I have flown - or at
>least it feels that way. I am very pleased with the performance.
>
>Both planes outperformed my Spectrum F3B (sorry Mark) and the only other
>plane I ever liked nearly as much was my Mini Ellipse with about 12 oz.
>ballast...FWIW.
>
>Well, sorry for tearing up so much bandwidth. Dieter - thanks.
>
>Bill Gillis
>Reno, Nevada
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Re: [RCSE] Re: EPP HLGS

[Darwin A. Garrison]

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> 
> Looking at the Javelin, though it seems a bit heavy at 15oz..and the Hand
> Cat from Garrison Aerodrome, though not sure it is in production yet..
> Anybody have any ideas on how to lower the weight of the javelin, and know of
> any other choices I may consider in EPP HLGs?
> Rodger
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Hello, Ron, thread watchers:

I regret that the Hand Cat has yet to reach production.  This is an
unfortunate result of having too many pies to eat.

HOWEVER:

I did more or less finish my redesign over the Christmas holidays,
including cutting a proof of concept fuselage pod.  We learned many
things going through the trials with the initial prototype, especially
when it comes to making sure the plane is durable while still keeping it
light.

The P2 Hand Cat features a revised wing planform, different, modified
airfoils, a V-tail, and  revised internal layouts.  All of which came
from our experience with the first prototype.  The new model has a
target weight of 10 ounces, and should launch higher, turn well, and
range further during its flight.  It also has a much more comfortable
and effective launch grip.

If there's enough interest, I'll post some .gif shots of the CAD file,
and maybe a digital pic of the new pod.  As soon as I complete and fly
the P2 prototype, I will post a writeup and pictures to the web page.

Target date for production kits is sometime during March.

Regards,

Darwin
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Re: [RCSE] Sailboat "Wings"

[Wwing]

In a message dated 01/05/2000 8:33:45 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> They were driving this
>  thing on what looked like a runway, (it wasn't the salt flats) but this
>  was not the record attempt. They said they had already gone faster than
>  the current record of (I believe) 88 or 89 mph, and I seem to recall
>  them saying they had been over 100 mph. The driver was impressed with
>  its ability to go very fast in light winds. It was impressive to watch
>  the "boat" accelerate.


Sh! Don't anybody tell 'em to put up a windblock and do dynamic sailing. 
Could get dangerous.

Bill Wingstedt
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Re: [RCSE] Sailboat "Wings"

[darylp]

Hit the delete key if your not interested, sorry, but I find this
fascinating. Boy, during the winter, you guys will go on about anything.
;-) Honestly, I think there are a lot of applicable principles here, and
I am amazed at the number of RC soaring guys who are/have been sailors.
(I rec'd a lot of private responses also)

I saw the same program as Brett. The landsailer in question was VERY
impressive. It was designed and built for one thing - to get the land
speed record for land yachts. It was all composite, with long flowing
lines. Even the cockpit was enclosed. It was very clean. The sail/wing
was VERY high aspect ratio, all composite/molded. They were driving this
thing on what looked like a runway, (it wasn't the salt flats) but this
was not the record attempt. They said they had already gone faster than
the current record of (I believe) 88 or 89 mph, and I seem to recall
them saying they had been over 100 mph. The driver was impressed with
its ability to go very fast in light winds. It was impressive to watch
the "boat" accelerate. I now wish I was paying more attention so I could
give you guys more accurate figures.

I'll do a little "surfing" so I can offer some pics.

C-ya

D

Brett Jaffee wrote:
> 
> At 11:06 PM 01/04/2000 -0800, Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner wrote:
> >In reaction to a submission about a landsailer that could make speeds of
> >120mph, Tracy recently wrote:
> 
> I should note that the car in question hadn't reached these speeds as of
> the time the show was filmed.  It was hoped it would go that fast, though.
> 
> > While sailcraft are often seen as 'simply being pushed
> >along by the wind', this is only the case when travelling downwind. When
> >travelling more like perpendicular to the wind, on a 'point of sail'
> >referred to as a 'broad reach', sailcraft become a rather sophisticated
> >balance of vectors, taking wonderful advantage of lift over the foil section
> >of the winglike sail to produce speeds potentially surprisingly higher than
> >the wind itself
> 
> Well, that makes some sense.  I can see that, with the wind coming from the
> side, the sail is under a constant force from the side, which can being
> redirected to push/pull the craft forward, no matter how fast the wind the
> craft is moving.  Since F=MA, the boat/car should continue to accelerate
> until the frictional or drag forces equal the force on the wing/sail.
> OTOH, if going directly downwind, the force on the wing/sail would drop to
> zero as the craft approached the speed of the wind.  Is that close to being
> correct?
> 
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Re: [RCSE] Music Wire For Wing Rod?

[Moved by the wind.]

>
> Jerry Chase wrote:
> >
> > I need a new 1/4" wing rod for my Dynaflite Bird of Time. Anyone know if
> > 1/4" music wire has similar properties to the wing rod supplied with the
> > kit?

Like Mark says drill rod is better, BUT I use music wire for wing rods on my Sailaire 
and they work, they may even be a plus.  No
winch can break my Sailaire's wings PERIOD, they may make the wing tips touch, but 
they can't break 'em.

Rich

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Re: [RCSE] Zurich sunglasses

[Bowmanshobbies]

Just a reminder to everyone, Bowman's Hobbies sells Zurich Sunglasses too.  
We will ship free to RCSE members.  Single Color glasses $50.00 Fashion color 
glasses @ $60.00.  Contact us toll free at (888)296-1881 or email to  
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[RCSE] Hear God :^)

[Moved by the wind.]

John Roe wrote:

> I have heard from God on this topic, in a discussion about very, very
> low Reynolds numbers, specifically micro-hand launch.

Let's add a name to the list:

Joan of Arc
John Brown
David Kereish
Jim Jones
Son of Sam
John Roe

Rich

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Re: [RCSE] Sailboat "Wings"

[Cliff Lindgren]

OK, here we go.  There is true wind and there is apparent wind.  Apparent wind is the 
wind you feel if there is no wind and you're
on a bike and you start moving forward.  It feels like there is wind, right?  
Sailboats use wind and forward motion to work.  Proper
sail trim is extremely important to achieve maximum efficiency from any given boat.  
You are manipulating your "wing/sail" with many
different lines. OK.  A close hauled (point of sail into the wind)  mono hull sail 
boat can pretty much only go what is called hull
speed.  Now, you crack off the sails a little, head off the wind a bit and you start 
generating more of your own wind by gaining
more speed.  This is the true wind and your forward motion combined, hence more 
apparent wind and hence more speed.  Anytime you
sail past where the apparent wind is on your beam you throw up your spinnaker (big 
pretty sail) and you go even faster.  Your sails
are still working as a wing and you are being "lifted".  That is until you are running 
down wind and then you only go as fast as the
true wind is blowing.  You cease getting lifted by your sails anymore.   Your are 
"running before the wind".   It doesn't matter
what kind of a boat you are on either unless you are in a situation where you have a 
planing hull or there are waves and you
break-loose and start surfing.  ULDB's (ultralight displacement boats) which became 
extremely popular in the 70's can surf the ocean
& bay waves very well.  Once down wind its only as fast as the wind is blowing for 
most boats.  Its a pretty scary point of sail in
a blow too.  In sailboat racing, un-wanted jibes while running down wind result in 
what is commonly know as the "death roll" and you
can be pinned on your side if you "round down".
OK, in the medium of the ocean there is a lot of drag from the water.  On land with 
only three wheels on the ground there's a lot
less friction.  On ice its even less.  That is why extreme speeds can be achieved in a 
realitivly light wind.  Its can pretty much
be summed up by saying " the faster you go, the faster you go ".
OK, so now if you want to sell all of your gliders and buy a sailboat and want to live 
on the wild side, buy a mutli-hulled sailboat
and go real fast.  Be prepared  to get wet though.
I am sure there is a much more scientific explanation and I'm looking forward to the 
many theories forthcoming on this glider
exchange.
Cliff Lindgren


Brett Jaffee wrote:

> Well, as others have pointed out, there are sail powered vehicles that can
> go faster then the actual wind (I'm still not quite sure how that works,
> but apparently it does).  As for flat areas with lots of wind, you've got
> places like the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, or even Rogers Dry Lake near
> Edwards AFB in California.
>
> At 10:25 PM 01/04/2000 -0800, Tracy R Reed wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 04:45:34PM -0800, Brett Jaffee wrote:
> >> stab.  Supposedly, it could go 120mph.
> >
> >In a 120mph wind? Where do they find such wind with flat land to race on that
> >isn't covered in dunes?
> >
> >--
> >Tracy Reed  http://www.ultraviolet.org
> >The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
> >lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the
> >fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into
> >it in the first place. - Douglas Adams in Guardian, 25-Aug-95
> >
> >
> 
> Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee
> OnTheWay Quake 2 server utility:   http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway
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Re: [RCSE] Re: EPP HLGs

[RH1037]

Looking at the Javelin, though it seems a bit heavy at 15oz..and the Hand 
Cat from Garrison Aerodrome, though not sure it is in production yet.. 
Anybody have any ideas on how to lower the weight of the javelin, and know of 
any other choices I may consider in EPP HLGs?
Rodger
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Re: [RCSE] DONT buy topo maps on CD until you've been to this site!

[Bobbi and Randy]

WOW! I just typed in "The Lump" where I fly which is a rather obscure
landmark that I thought would never be found. Not only was it found but I
got an incredibly good map of the area.

Thanks Scobie.

Randy Bullard

> For FREE, color, printable topo maps of the entire USA at several scales
go
> to:
> http://www.topozone.com/find.asp
>
> I doubt you'll be disappointed.
>
> Be careful,
>
> for mapheads and those hoping to find undiscovered slopes, this site can
be
>
> DANGEROUSLY ADDICTIVE!
>
> Lift,
> Scobie in Seattle


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[RCSE] Re Franric foam fun

[Gary Milabar]

You can find the Highlander at:

   www.madaircraft.com
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[RCSE] Servo Clutch

[Jimmy D. Andrews]

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> 
> Is there a reason why "limiting stress release clutch/linkage" is not popular
> with servo or coupling system?
> 

Such a device is used on the steering linkage every RC car that I have
ever seen.  It protects the steering servo when the car bangs into the
curb, or whatever.

I recently gave one of these clutches to my friend to try on his Wild
Skies Fox on the rudder.  The rudder is so heavy that a slightly rough
landing will either strip the servo or break it from the mount.  I'm
sure that the car steering clutch would work if used.

For a plane, one way to protect the servos is to mass balance all of the
control surfaces.  This will ensure that dynamic loads on the control
surfaces from hard landings is minimized.  It still does nothing for the
loads on the servo when the control surface hits the ground, or hits a
rock, or whatever.

Jimmy
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Re: [RCSE] Music Wire For Wing Rod?

[mark wolfe]

Goto an industrial supply house and get 1/4 drill rod, it's straight,
unless you need a bent rod, in that case, I've got some here from
crashes. :) 
The music wire you get in a hobby shop isn't straight, and if you look
at it, about ever 6" it's got a little mark where they unrolled it off
the roll.


Jerry Chase wrote:
> 
> I need a new 1/4" wing rod for my Dynaflite Bird of Time. Anyone know if
> 1/4" music wire has similar properties to the wing rod supplied with the
> kit?

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