RE: [RCSE] RE: Inverted Dihedral

2000-03-22 Thread Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner

There has got to be more to it than just ground or surface effect. Swallows
use significant anhedral for ANY non flapping glide, ESPECIALLY when
circling in thermal lift or making a pass in front of a lifty slope. For
them it is clearly 'best glide', and they always use it to some degree when
not powered (flapping). In extended glides or when its really obvious that
they're trying to climb in lift, the pose gets even more exaggerated. There
is fairly significant sweep to the wings in this mode.

Thoughts anyone?

Lift,
Scobie in Seattle

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 Possibly to enhance the ground effect as they come in low?  I've
 seen video of a 2 person ground effect vehicle that had a similar
 wing tip down look.

 Rodger Hamer wrote:

  I was wondering about the fact that when ducks are on final, they always
  seem to have their wingtips curved downwards...possibly as an
 airbrake and
  to avoid tip vortices and wingtip stall? Gulls also seem to assume that
  flying configuration.
  Rodger
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   Ignoring the practicalities ...
  
   From Simons' "Sweep forward actually aids control
   at low speeds, delaying wing tip stall
 
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Ducks anhedral

2000-03-22 Thread Bobbi and Randy


 Pelicans have their act together.  They watch
 where their going and don't bump into things like Seagulls do.

 I think a really good floater design should be named after one of them.

Forgive them Mike for they are ignorant. Either that or they forget real
fast.

Randy



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Re: [RCSE] Inverted V-tails

2000-03-22 Thread Len Revelle

And makes spot landings a bear!

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 I have noticed a lot of high performance research aircraft (suck as
the model that recently flew across the Atlantic) use an inverted
V-tail.  I remember reading somewhere the advantages of this
configuration, but that information fails me at the moment.  I assume
the is an increase in effiency due to the end plate effect.  I seem to
remember there is a reduction in adverse roll coupling.  Is there
anything else that makes this configuration desireable?  And yes, it
does look cool too...

 Kristopher
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RE: [RCSE] Turkey Vulture WingspanWeight

2000-03-22 Thread Gavin Botha

A few nights ago there was an incredible documentaty on PBS Nature program
about Eagles.  It documented all types of eagles from around the world.
The upclose film footage of these birds inflight was amazing.  The constant
camber and planform changing, as well  tail movement really gives an
appreciation of how these birds are working the air.  I am going to start
looking at local listings for a re-braodcast.  This one is definitely worth
taping.  I believe the heaviest eagles weigh more than 20 lbs.  If anyone
has any more info about this program or knows when next it will be aired,
please post the info on the exchange.  It it a must see!

Gavin


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Re: [RCSE] RE: Inverted Dihedral

2000-03-22 Thread Moved by the wind.



Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner wrote:

 There has got to be more to it than just ground or surface effect. Swallows
 use significant anhedral for ANY non flapping glide... There
 is fairly significant sweep to the wings in this mode.

It maybe to neutralize the dihedral effect of the wing sweep.  3* of wing sweep is 
about equal to 1* of dihedral.  If the wing is
swept 40* that's an effective dihedral of 13*.  If they have 13* of anhedral the two 
would cancel each other out.

Rich Border

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[RCSE] Team MPX!!!

2000-03-22 Thread Les Grammer

Karlton wrote: "Larry Jolly is now a MULTIPLEX sponsored Pilot!"

Ok, ok, I give!  I'll be HAPPY to become a Multiplex sponsored pilot!

:)

(Hope karlton's wearing his good-humor face!)

-Les Grammer
NWSS (with a smile!)
Team Phugoid Member...oh so close!


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[RCSE] MPEG quality

2000-03-22 Thread Tord

Some time back someone posted an URL to a MPEG showing a
midair between a F3J glider (?) and a human paraglider (both lived
to see another day). What impressed me was the picture quality -
usually MPEGs are jerky and have a lot of fuzziness built-in,
but not this flick :-)!

Real bad example was that MPEG of someone DS-ing at Parker,
taken by a German, I believe! Sometimes the aircraft dissolves
in the 'noise' and never is it anywhere as sharp as the midair!

I think all who dabbles in converting film or videp to MPEGs
would love to know what equipment was used, at what settings,
et cetera! Thank you, whoever it was who did that super midair flick!

yours, 

Tord,
Sweden

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[RCSE] mini-ellipse power plant ?

2000-03-22 Thread Watson, Tom J

Hi,
 I'm looking at power plant options for the mini-ellipse from Jaro Muller.
I'm looking to get a good fast climb out of the model, If anybody out there
has some experience with different power plants in the model they'd like to
share, I'd really appreciate it  Actually, I'd appreciate any info at
all on how the model flys (speed, climb, thermal ability etc)!

 Cheers,
  Tom.

ps. sorry is this is a repeat, I had some address issues...

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