Re: [RCSE] Banos F3F... who goin?

2000-03-30 Thread Rick Wardrop

I would like to inject a note here that although most subscribers to RCSE
seem to be clairvoyant, not all of us are.  For the rest of us handicapped
glider guiders, could you please consider your requests/advertisements from
the point of view of someone who may be interested but might not know
everything you do about the item in question.  For instance:

Eric, who is apparently trying to bum a ride to Los Banos, FROM WHERE?
Cleveland? Miami? Sacramento? Seattle?  Stockholm?  If you want a response,
give a clue.

Mark, who is apparantly trying to plug "the REAL race", When?  "May" is a
broad target.  You did include the location, Davenport (what state?), but
would it be so hard to complete the info with the date?  (May 6-7).  And
maybe even a pointer to where they can learn more, like directions or
registration.  If you are trying to attract participants, why make people
search out what they need?  And why plug your event at the expense of
someone else?  There is no obvious reason Eric can't go to both.  Why
disuade him from from going to 'Banos?  In my naive opinion it would seem
that cultivating an interest in slope racing benefits both events.

Often there are events advertised in RCSE and even magazine ads that seem to
assume that everyone knows where club acroynom-du-jur is based and where
lake Whatchamacallit is located.  No doubt the in-crowd does, but if you
would like the crowd to get bigger, consider others.

I'm not trying to flame on the two individuals.  These posts just touched a
nerve.  Could people posting to this exchange please keep in mind that these
messages go to some 1200 people all over the world and not all are up to
speed on every acronym and location.  This is especially important if you
are advertising something and would like the broadest participation.  The
whole point of advertising is that people not already involved MIGHT be
interested if you let them know.  The harder you make them work to get what
they need, the less likely they will be to respond.

Rick,

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Re: [RCSE] Futaba tx modules synthesized?

2000-03-30 Thread Howard Rudy

Yes, just get modules for the channles you use. The main idea with the modules
is to make it easy to change channels without the need to have the Tx tuned.
Each module has been factory tuned to be right on freq. for the crystal in the
module. So the Tx doesn't have anything in it to affect the output freq. If you
used a module in a Tx that it was not design for, that Tx could have higher signal
levels to drive its module. This would over drive the module and cause interference
to other channels. (like the Hitec synthesized module in the Futaba Tx)

Howard
SLC, UT.

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 I just bought a used Futaba 8uaf which comes with a module on channel 56.  My stuff 
all is either on channel 42 or 52.  Is it safe to get modules on either of these 
channels without having to send my transmitter back for retuning?  Are the modules 
themselves tuned to prevent this?  I hate to have to tear open any of my slopers to 
change a crystal.

 Thanks,

 Greg
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Re: [RCSE] V-Tail Mixer

2000-03-30 Thread rich ness

Dymond in Oshkosh Wisconsin has these for $15.95.  phone number is
1-888-4FUN FLY.

Rich Ness
St Paul MN


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:07 PM
Subject: [RCSE] V-Tail Mixer


About a year ago I looked at a small V-tail hand-launch at one of the
glider
club events. If I remember right it had a electronic mixer that you plugged
into the receiver and it Y harnessed to two micro servos.  Does any one
know
where I can get such a device.  Thanks Gary

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Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set

2000-03-30 Thread Jeff Reid

 What brand servos are you using? A lot of us
 here in NZ are having this exact problem. I'm
 pretty sure it's not the Rx as some use Futaba,
 some JR, some PCM, some FM. The one thing in
 common is that all the servos have blue cases...

I have 4 hitec HS85MG servos in the wings, and two hitec HS85BB servos
in the fuse to drive the V-tail via dubro cables.

Any chance that your flaps have some slop in the linkages?  I am assuming
that they are gap sealed with tape?  On launch its quite possible that your
servos do no thave sufficient torque to maintain the flap as you set it. 

This kit (Sierra 2.5) uses the hitec universal housings, (short round
cylinders that insert into cylindrical wing cavities)...the linkage on
the wings is very short (about 3 inches)... and there's no slop...
HS85MG's are supposed to be reasonably strong...


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Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set

2000-03-30 Thread Darwin N. Barrie



Jeff Reid wrote:

 I just got my first full-house glider, a Hobby Shack Sierra 2.5,
 it's flying OK, but when I first start a session I have to
 keep sub-trimming one or two out of the six servos, usually
 the flaps, in order to get them "re-centered".

Hi Jeff,

I'd put money on the servos if all linkage and the servos are fixed solidly. I fly a 
9Z with the 148 receivers. In my 2Meter Sisu I
have HS85's on the flaps and the subtrimming is a constant task. Although they seem to 
be strong and fairly reliable I don't think
they are as good as the JR 341/351 or  some of the others. I don't have the problem 
with my JR servos or Volz.

Darwin N. Barrie
Scottsdale AZ

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Re: [RCSE] V-Tail Mixer

2000-03-30 Thread terrytrimble

Hobby Shack makes the smallest V tail mixer for the wattage slow flyer that
works. I f you want the best then the Ohmark mixer is great you can adjust
the it from 25% to 100% rates in .25 steps.Thermal Gromit works sell it for
$39.99/
Later,
Terry Trimble
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Soaring Tools the EPP info website
http://www.geocities.com/soaringtools/
- Original Message -
From: "Gary and Tracy Humphrey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 7:05 PM
Subject: [RCSE] V-Tail Mixer


 About a year ago I looked at a small V-tail hand-launch at one of the
glider
 club events. If I remember right it had a electronic mixer that you
plugged
 into the receiver and it Y harnessed to two micro servos.  Does any one
know
 where I can get such a device.  Thanks Gary

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[RCSE] CG for a Champion HLG

2000-03-30 Thread Blaine Deborah Beron-Rawdon

In Soaring V1 #1033, "Juan Cifuentes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked "Anyone 
flown a Champion HLG and can recommend CG location? I have set it up
following manufacturer's instructions but it does not work."

I have not flown this model, and I don't know what the plans say, but it
happens that I have measured the plans for this model (owned by Dick
Schilling (of this list)) and have it in the "Plane Geometry" database.

A quick peek with the program indicates that a reasonable CG range for this
little model is from 2.62 to 3.21 inches (6.65 to 8.15 cm) behind the
leading edge at the wing root on the centerline.  This corresponds to a
static margin of 20% to 10% mean aerodynamic chord.  The length of the MAC
is 5.88 inches (14.94 cm).  The neutral point is at 0.51 Cmac.

I would suggest starting at the forward CG location and gradually working my
way back until the launch zoom and other pitch behavior is good.

For more info on "Plane Geometry", please email me or check out:
http://www.rc-soar.com/hardsoft/planegeo.htm

That's all for now.

Blaine Beron-Rawdon
Envision Design
San Pedro, California

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Re: [RCSE] Banos F3F... who goin?

2000-03-30 Thread terrytrimble

Gee I wish I could pick on a teenage boy trying to bum a ride to Los Banos
california for a F3F race. Maybe we should all be required to sign with a
signature line like mine so you can find me on a map.
Later,
Terry Trimble
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Soaring Tools the EPP info website
http://www.geocities.com/soaringtools/
Encinitas, California
latitude 33.06548
longitude -177.29652
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From: "Rick Wardrop" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Banos F3F... who goin?


 I would like to inject a note here that although most subscribers to RCSE
 seem to be clairvoyant, not all of us are.  For the rest of us handicapped
 glider guiders, could you please consider your requests/advertisements
from
 the point of view of someone who may be interested but might not know
 everything you do about the item in question.  For instance:

 Eric, who is apparently trying to bum a ride to Los Banos, FROM WHERE?
 Cleveland? Miami? Sacramento? Seattle?  Stockholm?  If you want a
response,
 give a clue.

 Mark, who is apparantly trying to plug "the REAL race", When?  "May" is a
 broad target.  You did include the location, Davenport (what state?), but
 would it be so hard to complete the info with the date?  (May 6-7).  And
 maybe even a pointer to where they can learn more, like directions or
 registration.  If you are trying to attract participants, why make people
 search out what they need?  And why plug your event at the expense of
 someone else?  There is no obvious reason Eric can't go to both.  Why
 disuade him from from going to 'Banos?  In my naive opinion it would seem
 that cultivating an interest in slope racing benefits both events.

 Often there are events advertised in RCSE and even magazine ads that seem
to
 assume that everyone knows where club acroynom-du-jur is based and where
 lake Whatchamacallit is located.  No doubt the in-crowd does, but if you
 would like the crowd to get bigger, consider others.

 I'm not trying to flame on the two individuals.  These posts just touched
a
 nerve.  Could people posting to this exchange please keep in mind that
these
 messages go to some 1200 people all over the world and not all are up to
 speed on every acronym and location.  This is especially important if you
 are advertising something and would like the broadest participation.  The
 whole point of advertising is that people not already involved MIGHT be
 interested if you let them know.  The harder you make them work to get
what
 they need, the less likely they will be to respond.

 Rick,

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Re: [RCSE] Acetone and Mylars

2000-03-30 Thread Mike Reed

Jeff, do it the simple way.. When you wax the outside of your Mylars, use
carnauba car wax and apply it generously. Let it hase but do not buff it
off. Any resin that creeps onto the mylars will come right off. Wax and buff
three times on the inside though. Clean the Mylars off with lacquer thinner
or acetone or MEK. You can not hurt them... That's why people use the
stuff..

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Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set

2000-03-30 Thread Kjell-Arne Fjelde

Im having this excact problem with my HS85MG servos. Great servos for the 
buck, but theire accuracy is "what you pay for".

The best way to reduce the problem is to make the linkages so that you use 
the hole (or at least as much as possible) of the servo travel to get youre 
preferred throw. This makes the problem smaller, but I have to adjust the 
center pos on mine each time I go flying.

Regards
Kjelli


From: Jeff Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:01:13 -0800

  What brand servos are you using? A lot of us
  here in NZ are having this exact problem. I'm
  pretty sure it's not the Rx as some use Futaba,
  some JR, some PCM, some FM. The one thing in
  common is that all the servos have blue cases...

I have 4 hitec HS85MG servos in the wings, and two hitec HS85BB servos
in the fuse to drive the V-tail via dubro cables.

 Any chance that your flaps have some slop in the linkages?  I am assuming
 that they are gap sealed with tape?  On launch its quite possible that 
your
 servos do no thave sufficient torque to maintain the flap as you set it.

This kit (Sierra 2.5) uses the hitec universal housings, (short round
cylinders that insert into cylindrical wing cavities)...the linkage on
the wings is very short (about 3 inches)... and there's no slop...
HS85MG's are supposed to be reasonably strong...


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Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set

2000-03-30 Thread Rcsoar4fun

In a message dated 3/31/00 12:30:09 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Im having this excact problem with my HS85MG servos. Great servos for the 
 buck, but theire accuracy is "what you pay for".
  

I have to disagree, I have no less than 12 Hs-85s in service (about half 
metal gear) for about a year and a half withou ever having this trouble.  I 
fly them in everything from electrics to Scale to TD ships without any 
problems.


Kristopher
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Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set

2000-03-30 Thread Kjell-Arne Fjelde

Then maybe you got a good "batch" of them.
In our club we have around 50 of these servos (as I know of), some got the 
problem, some don´t. We have just accepted this for a fact with these 
servos. And use them for smaller planes and 1,5m slopeplanes. Use the whole 
servotravel and the problem is minimal.
Put som Zap in those linkages to remove slop.

Most of us in our club have the same TXs and RXs.
Fact is, cheap servos are cheap for a reason.

Kjelli.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Constant trim drift with new radio set
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:38:14 EST

In a message dated 3/31/00 12:30:09 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Im having this excact problem with my HS85MG servos. Great servos for 
the
  buck, but theire accuracy is "what you pay for".
   

I have to disagree, I have no less than 12 Hs-85s in service (about half
metal gear) for about a year and a half withou ever having this trouble.  I
fly them in everything from electrics to Scale to TD ships without any
problems.


Kristopher
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RE: R: [RCSE] 4 vs 5 cell battery

2000-03-30 Thread Kjell-Arne Fjelde

This is really taking off. Everything from voltage regulators to discharge 
5% of the pack before flying.

Is it just me or does all this sounds silly?
The original question was about a Futaba RX who acted crazy with a 5 cell 
pack. And it has been established that some RX´s can´t handle the 7.5 V a 
fully charged pack gives.

If you want to use a 5cell pack in youre plane you cant use a RX who is not 
designed to operate on a 5 cell. Simple and easy. Forget voltage regulators 
and discharging some of the pack´s capacity.

Take the RX and put it in a plane who uses a 4 cell pack.
As for the plane with the 5 cell pack, use another RX who is designed for a 
5 Cell pack. There are many.

Of course this is only my humble opinion :)

thermals
Kjelli

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