Fw: [RCSE] F3B Eagle for sale
- Original Message - From: "swissmy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "David Whitaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B Eagle for sale NIB, perfect condition F3B Eagle. Is this a molded eagle or are the wings obechi covered? Dave It is the hollow molded version---built by Ron Vann (under supervision of Mark Allen-so I guess you could call it a Vallen Eagle) If held to the light you can see the carbon in the wings 8-) Mike RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FYI
The Word of the Day for May 6 is: volant \VOH-luhnt\ (adjective) 1 : having the wings extended as if in flight -- used of a heraldic bird *2 : flying or capable of flying 3 : quick, nimble Example sentence: According to popular myth, Santa Claus flies through the air at Christmastime on a sleigh drawn by eight volant reindeer. Did you know? English picked up "volant" from Middle French. The term survives in Modern French as well, both as an adjective having essentially the same meaning as the English term, and as a noun with several meanings (among them "shuttlecock"). The influence of French can be seen doubly in the heraldic sense of "volant": in heraldic contexts, the adjective "volant" almost always appears after the noun -- a syntax picked up from French along with the meaning. For instance, a coat of arms or a military decoration might feature an "eagle volant." Ultimately, "volant" comes from the Latin verb "volare," meaning "to fly." Another word that came to English through Middle French from "volare" is "volley," which refers to things flying back and forth through the air. ttfn, Bill -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. Anon. Bill Johns Pullman, Washington RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] simprop
Who is the American dealer for Simprop I would like to purchase a Dornier 328 fan kit Thank you, Robert Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Bagging layup question
Hi guys, I'm laying up and bagging a 3 meter wing, with blue foam cores, uni-carbon, and a top layer of fiberglass on a bias. What is a typical weight of fiberglass to use for the bias layer? I was thinking either a single layer of 2.5 oz cloth, or maybe the 2.5 with another layer of 1.4 oz cloth? This will be a thermal duration type sailplane. Thanks! Stan Sadorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Correction TNT, I got second with EMERALD
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I flew my Saphire with about 1lb of ballast. Glenn Dean had a Saphire and I was thinking how nice it was to see him at the contest, since we seem to bump into each other where ever I go. We started flying together in Louisville, then he went out to Maryland, where he picked me up to do some sloping in Frederick. Anyway, I flew the Emerald not the Saphire, however both planes are very similar in flying characteristics. The Emerald offeres a selection of ballast storage options. I had some small plastic bags with shot in them (about 2"x3"...4 of them) stuff into the wing forward of the spar, since there is no wing root rib. The recommended storage area is behind the spar. You simply make a sort of open faced box from pieces of styro foam to keep the weigh from shifting in the wing. That location doesn't affect the CG as mine did (I pulled ballast from the nose to correct). The system used by Skip Miller and one that works for the Saphire and other 'roomy' fuses, is to purchase ballast 'plates' from RNR. They are inserted thru the canopy opening with an extention and secured with a screw inserted near the towhook. Picture a rod with a flat plate of lead on it. The rod can stay attached, while the ballast is in the plane. Remove the screw and pull the 'spoon' ballast. I had 16ozs and it turned out it was just right and was about average for the planes making time and landings. One of the guys mentioned that he pulled some out and found himself having trouble penetrating. It was the first time I ballasted and was really concerned about if the plane would make time, it worked in reverse, I had very little trouble punching into the huge 30mph'ish wave coming at us. Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] simprop
call new creations 409 856 46 30 - Original Message - From: "Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] simprop Who is the American dealer for Simprop I would like to purchase a Dornier 328 fan kit Thank you, Robert Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] For Sale VISION Sailplane Radio
Will have for sale a Airtronics 8 Plane Memory Sailplane ver radio this has been all Upgraded to the Newest Software.. with 8 plane Memory... comes with Battery but no Module you need to add that also has Rubber Duck ant good cond also.. I will have it checked out at Airtronics before selling it cause I am going to have all My Visions checked out at the same time next monday.. Price is 300.00 also will trade for a Stylus plus some cash if you want to trade for a Vision or Buy it.. thanks I am in So cal.. Mike RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Stylus programming info wanted
Any good sources for getting the most out my new Stylus? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Eagle for sale
Speaking of Ron Vann, what ever happened to that guy any way? Used to see him at at Davenport ISRs, got out of flying for a bit, when I came back he just disappeared. He used to make some nice planes and was a pretty good slope racer. -Original Message- From: swissmy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Fw: [RCSE] F3B Eagle for sale - Original Message - From: "swissmy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "David Whitaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B Eagle for sale NIB, perfect condition F3B Eagle. Is this a molded eagle or are the wings obechi covered? Dave It is the hollow molded version---built by Ron Vann (under supervision of Mark Allen-so I guess you could call it a Vallen Eagle) If held to the light you can see the carbon in the wings 8-) Mike RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Slightly off topic computer help, anyone?
I have come to need the classic compression utility PKZIP, to unzip soaring related (!) and other files. I got all brave (for me) and went to a utilities site a while back and figured it all out, downloaded the program, and thought I was all set. Turns out the program came to me in a .zip file!!! So I need a copy of the program to get at my copy of the program!!! Can ya stand it??!? That pretty much shut me down, and I haven't tried again for a while. But now I have even more cool things on .zip files that I can't get at. If anyone knows how I can get a copy of pkzip that I dont NEED to already HAVE pkzip to USE, I sure would appreciate it. TIA, And tons of Lift, especially to the person who helps me out here! Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Sloping Vancouver to Las Vegas
I second that Lee -Original Message- From: Lee Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Winch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Sloping Vancouver to Las Vegas Phil if your coming through Reno Nevada and want to fly one of the greatest hills ANYWHERE. Red Rock is IT! just north of Reno. checkwww.scrollsander.com/soaringsites.htm Call and let someone no when and I'm sure some of the S-3 guys will try to meet you. S-3 phone numbers are on same site Lee --- Winch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been off the list for a while because of work. So if this may be a repeat of a recent thread, I'm sorry. I'm making a quick trip to Las Vegas on sunday. My intended route is Vancouver,BC to Portland, out to the coast and down to Eureka then across to Reno and Las Vegas. Returning through Salt Lake City, Boise, Yakima and then back to Vancouver. I don't have a lot of time (read: my wife's good will) to scout out sites along the route so any recommendations and directions would be greatly appreciated. Port Orford? Kiona? I remember a few years ago someone tried to put up a site data bank. Did it ever happen? I'd hate to drive right by a local bit of heaven because I'm too busy looking for a gas station. Help! Phil in Vancouver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Slightly off topic computer help, anyone?
There's a whole slew of 'em here: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/1,10150,0-10001-103-0-1-7,00.html?tag=st%2Edl%2E10001%2Esbsrqt=pkzipcn=ca=10001 Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner wrote: I have come to need the classic compression utility PKZIP, to unzip soaring related (!) and other files. [SNIP] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Scale vs Competition
Hi all I was looking around for some info regarding a scale vs competition ships. I cannot seem to take my eyes off of those scale type ships! The Icare DG800 or Duo Discus, these are alot more appealing to me than the flying pencil types. Not that there's anything wrong with them it's just, well, if I am going to drop $600, It's gotta look like a dream. Enough ramblin', my questions are, 1) What are the major differences between them? 2) If we say wingspan and airfoil are the same (roughly), are they going to be completely different to fly? I am not currently flying competively, but may consider in the future say F3J. 3) Will the scale type ship be competitive? I also am leaning towards a foam/sheeted instead of full molded as I have no experience with composites. 4) I also noticed that the majority of companies that sell scale all say that airtow is recommended,true? I would like to hi start mainly. I hope that I have not asked a question that has already been answered. I would like to hook up with someone out there that has this type of sailplane. Any suggestions regarding plane choice would also be appreciated! Thank You for Your Time Mike Berard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #1200 (epoxy to epoxy)
Tord, I've worked with epoxy a lot and it will stick well to old epoxy. You may need to sand off the amine blush first, though some epoxies are made not to blush (I've used Aluzine surfboard resin from Fiberglass Hawaii for kayaks and wings). It also helps to get it rough first. Your concrete boat sounds like an interesting project. I was heavily involve in a concrete canoe competition in college. Our best was a 20 foot (6.1 m) long canoe that weighed a bit over 40 pounds (18.14 kg), which isn't far from a good fiberglass boat the same size. I now work as an engineer for a construction company and we bond new concrete to old with epoxy all the time. -Silas- Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:09:41 + (GMT) From: Tord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: My Towhook ... Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Epoxy only clings to epoxy perfectly if it's the same age and mix, and have cured together :-)! I once was involved in a concrete boat project where the keel was molded in one piece separately - 100% concrete and scrap iron, and reinforcement irons as per normal concrete building. Then we were about fourty guys who did the hull during one long night - a lot of manual labour, I tell you! Anyway, the new concrete would not stick to the pre-moulded concrete, so one has to use a special epoxy to glue the joint and for the joint to hold! Yours, Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tord S. Eriksson, Ovralidsg.25:5, S-422 47 Hisings Backa, Sweden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #1200 (epoxy to epoxy)
Silas, Off topic, but I helped build a concrete canoe in college also for an ASCE conference, It looked like something from the Flintstones, but it proudly bore the name "Ridgid Member" on the bow Greg Morris, P.E. -Original Message- From: Silas Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #1200 (epoxy to epoxy) Tord, I've worked with epoxy a lot and it will stick well to old epoxy. You may need to sand off the amine blush first, though some epoxies are made not to blush (I've used Aluzine surfboard resin from Fiberglass Hawaii for kayaks and wings). It also helps to get it rough first. Your concrete boat sounds like an interesting project. I was heavily involve in a concrete canoe competition in college. Our best was a 20 foot (6.1 m) long canoe that weighed a bit over 40 pounds (18.14 kg), which isn't far from a good fiberglass boat the same size. I now work as an engineer for a construction company and we bond new concrete to old with epoxy all the time. -Silas- Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:09:41 + (GMT) From: Tord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: My Towhook ... Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Epoxy only clings to epoxy perfectly if it's the same age and mix, and have cured together :-)! I once was involved in a concrete boat project where the keel was molded in one piece separately - 100% concrete and scrap iron, and reinforcement irons as per normal concrete building. Then we were about fourty guys who did the hull during one long night - a lot of manual labour, I tell you! Anyway, the new concrete would not stick to the pre-moulded concrete, so one has to use a special epoxy to glue the joint and for the joint to hold! Yours, Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tord S. Eriksson, Ovralidsg.25:5, S-422 47 Hisings Backa, Sweden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Scale vs Competition try Multiplex DG 600
Mike, There is a great deal of difference between scale and competition style thermal models. If you study the 2 types you will soon see that there is a big difference in proportions. Where the spans are similar you will notice that the aspect ratio is almost double on the scale ship. With the higher aspect ratio the scale model has a higher wing loading. Higher wing loading yields higher takeoff and landing speeds. I don't recommend a high start for a scale ship unless it is very light. If you really want a scale ship, slope, winch, or aero tow is more appropriate for launching. Multiplex has a new model that looks pretty good, The DG 600 comes in at about 7 pounds and has a span of 3.6 meters. Tell Karlton to hurry up and get them here. Larry Jolly RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
