[RCSE] RE: WingDing (was: Soaring V1 #1522)
Les Garber is the designer of the Wing Ding... and he was at the Nats. The last email I have for him is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Greg Stewart (Minneapolis, MN, USA) -Original Message- Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 06:34:31 -0700 From: Les Grammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nats Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Bacus wrote: "I think I met Les Grammer at the Nats last week, really nice guy, was that you who let me fly your electric flying wing design, the Wing Ding? ..snip..This is a REALLY cool small electric wing that was VERY acrobatic. I've never been so impressed by an electric plane." ** Sorry Jim, I didn't make it to the nats (at least, not the U.S. Nats), so you'll have to ask about as to who had the electric that so impressed you, as you didn't recall the name right. However, you'll be happy to know that though you didn't meet me at the nats, you still DID get the "really nice guy" part correct! :) -Les Grammer "Safe from Slander, Didn't make the Nats!" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Les Grammer at Nats?
Thanks for all the help guys, it was Les Garber that I met. I just love when guys are flying a model they designed and say to me "look, this isn't what you should do with this model", and gets a big "ooh" from the audience, and then shoves the TX in my hand. 8-) http://www.rcmicroflight.com/feb00/index.asp has a picture of a Wing Ding. Jim At 09:48 PM 8/4/2000, James V. Bacus wrote: I think I met Les Grammer at the Nats last week, really nice guy, was that you who let me fly your electric flying wing design, the Wing Ding? I didn't get a chance to get the plans for it, can I contact or get them from you? This is a REALLY cool small electric wing that was VERY acrobatic. I've never been so impressed by an electric plane. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of Chicago SOAR club ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at http://www.mcs.net/~bacuslab/soaring.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AMA, Nats
At 01:46 PM 8/4/2000, Jon Syvertson wrote: I know I really appreciated when you posted a picture on your website when I met you at a trashmound in the naperville area when I went slope flying for the first time. You know . . . I was famous then ;-). Hey, that was a special day! I still remember it, I only had tried slope soaring for the first time that summer, and you got your first taste that day. It was one of those days where everything kind of clicks together, and you learn a few new things. As I recall we were both flying built up wings too... 8-) Too much fun! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of Chicago SOAR club ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at http://www.mcs.net/~bacuslab/soaring.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Rubber Duck antenna range
Please help me to understand what relationship of Vision, Stylus, Tom Overton antenna to a Ducky? Was that an antenna comparison test of same TX or TX comparison test of same Ducky? Or both? YK Seattle - Original Message - From: Jim Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 7:37 AM Subject: [RCSE] Rubber Duck antenna range I have seen the submission by YK Chan, and agree with the idea. I have done essentially the same thing with all new installations (first a Vision, then a Stylus). What I did involved a friend who stayed with the plane and had either a CB radio or a cell phone. By picking a long straight road, I then drove away with the transmitter, actuating one of the channels (rudder or elevator) and leaving the other for a stability indicator. When I got the extreme end of useful range my helper let me know. I then backed up until the signal was again strong and stable. When I tested my Vision with a Tom Overton antenna in 1991, I got 1.1 miles of useful range along an unobstructed country road in Indiana. When I tested my Stylus with the same antenna in Feb. 1995, I got 1.25 miles of useful range along a road in Seattle, that happened to have high tension electric towers alongside the same road. These tests were good enough for me, and I have used the antenna successfully on everything from HL to XC. In fact, I have never had the whip antenna on the Stylus since I developed the adapter to connect the antenna to the ball mount (just prior to the test above). I guess others must agree, I have sold over 200 of those adapters to Stylus owners that were tired of the whips. Jim Thomas (Stylus Adapter Boy) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Point of the Mountian, UT
To register for Soar Utah 2000, go to http://www.silentflyer.net Follow the SU 2000 logo to get to register online or print out the forms. You'll also find lot's of other info including maps, contest info and a few picts from SU 95 and SU 98. -Scott Marshall Soar Utah 2000 Registrar Sept. 2-4, SLC, UT www.silentflyer.net - Original Message - From: Cliff Lindgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott Kim Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Point of the Mountian, UT I need to register. Can you Email me the form please. Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HL Golf Report
Our club, IMSF, sponsors of Soar Utah 2000, (register now at www.silentflight.org) held its second annual 9-hole HL golf tourney at Stansbury Park Golf Course in Stansbury Utah this morning. The conditions were much improved over last year, when we had to battle 10-15 mph winds on the last few holes. Eight pilots participated this year. And it was obvious that pilots benefited from the calm conditions and increased course knowledge. As a result, scores dropped dramatically. More important than the contest, was the opportunity to have a good time with family and friends. Many pilots brought their wives or girlfriends (one or the other, but not both!:-)) and several youngin's flew or drove carts. Dr. Blake Nielsen brought his "A" game to the course and repeated as "Masters" champion. He managed to better his winning total from last year by a remarkable 9 strokes/throws! He demonstrated superb flying and registered four hole-in-ones, Two of those on par-4's. When asked about his performance he said, " I putted well today." Blakester also took longest flight honors with a glide of about 400 yards. Tom Hoopes took second place honors and also won closest to the hole by putting his plane down 6 inches from the cup. Well played! After the contest, pilots and friends had pastries on the clubhouse deck overlooking the lake and played a game of skins. The object of the game was to knock a wiffle ball off a golf tee without touching the tee. The tee was stuck in the top of a foam noodle about a foot above the ground. Three rounds were flown and only two pilots were successful in knocking the wiffle ball off. Blake's 5 year-old son brought the house down when he knocked the ball off on his first attempt! Dave Taylor was the grown-up champion. Thanks everyone for getting up early to make this event such a blast. A jolly good show by all! A special thanks to all the drivers! Here are the scores (gallery applause): Blake Nielsen - 15 - Encore (this has got to be some sort of record low score!) Tom Hoopes - 19 - Aries (Hoopes design) Mikee Kresser - 20 - Hoopes wing on long CF tailboom Dave Taylor - 29 - Corndogger Scott Marshall - 29 - Encore Spencer Nielsen - 31 - DAW S1-26 (Spencer is only 10 years old and already an excellent pilot!) Steven Reed - DNF Allan McKay - DNF I should have pictures of the event available on a web site near you in a few days. -Scott Marshall Soar Utah 2000 Registrar Sept. 2-4 SLC, UT www.silentflyer.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Tired of wading through crap.
At 09:48 AM 8/5/00 -0500, David A. Enete wrote: Sure once in a while I like to slap Gordy or Sal around... Kristopher I'd love to have the credit applied to my credit card that I was promised over 4 months ago by NSP. They got my money, and I got a nice hot cup of jack squat. As far as I know, this is illegal. On top of that, they are essentially getting a loan at your expense. Brett Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee OnTheWay Quake 2 server utility: http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page: http://www.bayarea.net/~nathan/extra300/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Trainer question
I'm going to be trying to teach my dad to fly, using a 2m Wanderer glider on a slope. My radio, an 8UAFS, has the ability to lock out channels when used with a trainer cord. In other words, the trainer box can control only what channels the radio is set for, while the rest are controled by the instructor. What i was thinking of doing, at least for the first flight or two, is to let my dad control just the rudder, while I control the elevator. My thinking is that it will help him learn about control reversal and how much control movement is needed to steer the plane without having to worry about the other dimension (In my experience, the things newbies have the most trouble with is control reversal and over-controlling the airplane with the ailerons or rudder). It will hopefully also let him retain control for longer periods of time, since I can control the altitude (something that can be tricky for a student when slope flying). Obviously, this is not something you would want to do for any long period of time, as it could encourage some bad habbits. Has anyone tried anything like this for the first few flights though. Brett Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee OnTheWay Quake 2 server utility: http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page: http://www.bayarea.net/~nathan/extra300/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Trainer question
In a message dated 8/5/00 3:24:55 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (In my experience, the things newbies have the most trouble with is control reversal One thing that helped me when I was learning to fly (okay, sometimes I still use it:)) is when the plane is coming towards you, push the stick towards the down wingtip. Its probably the only really good piece of advice I ever got from my gas flying instructor. and over-controlling the airplane with the ailerons or rudder). I find dual rates are really helpful here. Some buddy boxes can be set on low rates while the master TX retains full throw. Might be helpful. Kristopher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] HL Golf Report
Sounds like it was fun! Could you post the rules you used for the HL golf tourney? Thanks, Joel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Base-loaded antenna range check
Bill, If TX antenna (such as helical or base loaded) cannot be collapsed for ground range check, consider collapse the Rx antenna for similar effect. Rx antenna collapse may be effected in two ways. One, allow one inch at the root left behind cut and reconnect the wire antenna with a servo connector using only one pin out of two or three pins. Disconnect the wire antenna in a ground range check. When done recover the Rx antenna to stock condition. Two, bundle the Rx antenna on its own and tin foil rap it to about 0.5" diameter, leaving zero to 0.5" root section exposed. Run your ground range check like that. When done recover the Rx antenna to its stock condition. BTW, for your own interest, you may like to range comparison of alternative TX antennas reference to the stock, and turn the difference into percentage. The percentage reduction information in a ground range check is similar (but identical) to an in flight % range reduction. Remember your link limitation and go fly with fun. YK Chan Seattle - Original Message - From: Bill Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: [RCSE] Base-loaded antenna range check Oh, no. Not another DuckyDebate. :-O I got a JR base-loaded antenna for my 8103 for use on the slope and hand-tossing. What is the proper way to range check an antenna like this? It would seem to me that "no antenna" would make the RF output unhappier than a collapsed antenna. I think that usual practice will be to keep the "stock" (extensible) antenna on the radio (in the case, between filghts) and remove that antenna and screw on the base-loaded antenna at the field. I'm thinking that the usual antenna-collapsed range check would suffice. Somewhat related, I'm finishing my Chrysalis HLG and installing avionics this weekend. Since the fuse is short, it is suggested that several turns of the antenna be wrapped around 1/16" scrap balsa to take up the excess. How might this affect the range of the Rx? I'm trusting, but want to check, especially since I'm also using a short Tx antenna. --Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] our new speaking vario
Hello, most of you probably know the Telario talk, the speaking vario, that tells you altitude and voltage. Now the successor the picolario has the same features. And the best : It is so small that it fits in nearly every F3B/F3J fuselage (even Shark and Europhia) For more details please take a look at http://www.thommys.com/html/picolario_english.htm The german version is on stock and the english will be tested this weekend and it will be ready for delivery next week. regards Thommy Thommys Modellbau Rebenweg 27 73277 Owen Phone +49 721 553107 Fax +49 721 9553869 www.thommys.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Fletcher VX F3B 3-views
Fritz Donker Duyvis of the University of Delft has a fine website containing an analysis of the Fletcher F3B sailplane. Also included on his website is a beautiful large (readable) 3-view of the Fletcher VX glider (the most recent version of the Fletcher) . http://www.hsa.lr.tudelft.nl/~frits/images/fletch2.jpg Thanks to Mr. Duyvis and those who responded to my earlier request for information on this glider. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] LSF/AMA Nats 2000 - Cross Country Results
2000 AMA / LSF Soaring Nationals X-C Results Larry Storie Event Director Bob Steel Contest Director Place Contestant Miles Completed 1 Skip Miller 63.0 2 Paul Siegel 18.1 3 Mike Garton 17.1 4 Steve Siebenaler 15.7 5 Steve Schneider 12.1 6 Marc Gellart 11.0 7 Jack Strother 9.1 8 Paul Wiese 8.0 9 Reggie Sewell 4.7 10 Mike Remus 3.9 11 Don Richmond 3.8 12 Ed Franz 3.1 13 Darwin Garrison 1.0 14 Dan deVries 0.0 15 Jim McCarthy 0.0
[RCSE] Mantis C/G
Mantis flyers, I'd be interested to know if you varied the recommended 4 1/4 " c/g setting and what were your results. Thanks RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
