[RCSE] Spectre 120
Can any one that owns, flies the Spectre 120 please contact me off the list w/opinions, likes, dislikes, etc about this plane. Its sure looks appealing w/the light weight and high aspect wing. thanks, Glidn Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Alternative aerotow events
Since Elmira is not occurring this year, are there any other good scale get togethers going on in the US? Los Banos? Thanks- Kristopher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Casl RES winner
That's right. Sal's got so many wins he can't keep 'em straight. Lenny's was a Nats win. Lenny flies a lot of open class stuff, so it took him a year or so to master his new ship :-) The Victory RES won Phoenix the last two years piloted by myself. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [RCSE] Casl RES winner In a message dated 2/6/01 10:43:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Mark Howard won RES at Phoenix with a Victory RES. BTW...the last two Nats were also won with the Victory RES. >> Just for the record.I won last year with a Victory RES and took 4th place in '99 with the same plane. Lenny Keer RMSA, Colorado RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. ** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
Stefan, Most chutes have shroud lines that run from the bottom ring that attaches to the tow line to the top ring tht attaches to the glider. This facilitates two things, one it allows the pull of the tow line to hold the chute closed while launching and it also keeps the cloth of the chute from carrying the load of the launch. I hope this helps. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
> Dean Wooldridge wrote: > > I'm gonna build a hi-start and I have a few questions about the parachute: > > 1. Any recommendations on ordering one or building one? I had one on order > but >evidently the postal service sprites ate it. 16" diameter circle of rip-stop parachute nylon material (not too hard to find at fabric stores). Sewing the shroud lines is the hard part. Basically, lay out at least 8 evenly spaced lines; if you are really clever you'll use as single piece of looped twine. Sew the shroud lines to the material in such a way that they can move freely, as they will change length under tension. One way of doing this is simply doing a stich that wraps them with thread. Surplus stores sometimes have pilot chutes (pulls the main chute out of the pack of a human parachute) of about this size, though they tend to be heavier. > 2. Am I right that the ring on the top (apex) of the chute attaches to the plane? >So why then doesn't it open up during launch and screw things up? Yes. Tension on the line and ring prevents it from opening. > 3. Seems like I read a note somewhere that a streamer of some kind could be used >instead of a parachute - is this true? Yes. Very easy to make too. Doesn't straighten out the line very well like a parachute does, so you do end up walking more. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
the tension on the line pulls the chute closed - its tied to the winch line at the bottom of the shroud lines, the ring is at the top. the chute wont open up until that tension is less than the pressure from the air coming at it. with any luck this happens at the same time you hit a thermal : ) brent > -Original Message- > From: Stefan Smets [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:39 PM > To: Dean Wooldridge; Soaring Newsgroup > Subject: RE: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for? > > Could this question please be answered in public ? > > Thanks, > Stefan. > > > 2. Am I right that the ring on the top (apex) of the chute attaches to > the plane? So why then doesn't it open up during > > launch and screw things up? > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] bigger is better??
Seems like you should just time them in similar conditions. If you fly a course with pylons 150m apart, down and back, down and back, you'll find that the small plane might be quicker on the first pass, but the speed will diminish after that. The big plane will ultimately have a faster time. They carry their speed better. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA > From: Brett Jaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:13:52 -0800 > To: Raymond Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] bigger is better?? > > 1.True, I'd say. I believe someone has posted previously on this. Something > about a bigger plane taking long a longer time to cover ground as a fraction > of its wingspan. In other words, a small plane may cover a distance that's > equal to it's own wingspan in less time then a bigger plane that is moving > faster. Since you tend to judge the approach andsize of the plane by looking > at the wing, this causes the illusion. It also means small planes are faster > proportional to their size, but not actually faster in absolute speed > (assuming we are talking about similar large and small airplanes). > > 2. Maybe > > 3. Well, actually, the F-16 is slower then the Concord . The F-16 can't do > over Mach 2 due to it's fixed engine inlet. The Concord cruises at over Mach > 2. > > 4. Certainly, in some cases, but if we are talking about similar style > planes with similar wing loadings , I think a a bigger plane will be faster. > Note that 60" planes sometimes compete in Unlimited class MOM racing. > Sometimes they win, but mostly it seems like the bigger planes are used. > > 5. Unless the lift band is really narrow and close to hill, I'm not sure this > is true. > > Raymond Wong wrote: > >> I just got my first BIG model, a Miraj and a Hade. Is it my imagination or >> is it really true, the 60inch Nemesis looked faster. most other pilots were >> watching and they thought the Nemesis was faster too. My disappointment >> didn't just stop there, the Nemesis seem to be able to climb higher too! true >> or false:1. bigger models look slower than its actual speed, just like a 747 >> appears to be crawlling in the sky.2. bigger models look lower than its >> actual altitude, because you can still see it at far.3. smaller models are >> faster just like the F-16 is faster than the Concord.4. smaller models are >> really faster, they never won a F3F only because they are not allowed.5. >> bigger models will do better in bigger lift, smaller models will do better in >> smaller lift. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
> 2. Am I right that the ring on the top (apex) of the chute attaches to the plane? So why then doesn't it open up during > launch and screw things up? The tension on the apex of the chute keeps it colapsed. Just hold on the top ring and pull on the shrouds you will see what I mean. --Greg RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
The tow ring attaches to the top of the parachute (or on a short line extending from it). The parachute shroud lines are generally connected to a ring which is itself connected to the main launch line. The parachute is therefore 'in-line' and when there is tension on the line, the parachute is held closed. When the model comes off the line, the tension is released and the chute opens. Why a chute, rather than a pennant? A chute will return the line closer to the launch point (assuming you are launching into wind). A pennant does work, but probably adds more drag on the launch and means longer walks to get the line. Hope this helps. -Original Message-From: Stefan Smets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:40 PMTo: Dean Wooldridge; Soaring NewsgroupSubject: RE: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for? Could this question please be answered in public ? Thanks, Stefan. > 2. Am I right that the ring on the top (apex) of the chute attaches to the plane? So why then doesn't it open up during > launch and screw things up?
Re: [RCSE] Club newsletters vs computers....
The Mississippi Valley Soaring Association (WWW.MVSACLUB.COM) is trying to get the membership to check the info on the website regularly. We post the newsletter there, along with other club stuff and items of general interest (check it out). However, we definitely intend to keep sending out hard copy newsletters. Of course it's true that a substantial number of our members don't want to receive newsletters via email or by checking our site. Moreover, a printed letter provides meeting reminders and increase meeting attendance, and because a tangible bit of club communication in the hands of members has proven to be a good thing in terms of increasing members' involvement. --- Bill Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What we are doing is making the "snailmail" > Newsletter optional. By default, everyone gets it > in the mail, but we also upload the current > newletter to our WebSite and you can "opt" to not > receive a mailed newsletter. > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:06:18 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > There is a troubling matter that seems to be growing > as time goes by. It is > the movement to computerize club newsletters. > If you are in such a club, please IMMEDIATELY make > arrangements to provide > hard copy for any member who wants one > Folks there are so few of us modelers > > TIA > > Jimbo in NM __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Club newsletters vs computers....
I think that Jim has been snookered by a whiner into thinking that this is a widespread problem. 'Course that doesn't say much for his estimation of us newsletter editors and club presidents. A more tactful AMA VP might have checked his facts and verified the extent of the problem before making a blanket posting. But then all of us jumps the gun and shoots ourselves in the foot once in a while. ;-) (like this probably) Rick Orlando (Pres. Orlando Buzzards, Editor FSS Silent Flyer, usually nice guy) At 02:22 PM 2/7/01 -0500, Bill Harris wrote: >What we are doing is making the "snailmail" Newsletter optional. By >default, everyone gets it in the mail, but we also upload the current >newletter to our WebSite and you can "opt" to not receive a mailed >newsletter. > >B'ham R/C: >http://www.geocities.com/~birminghamrc/club.html . > >--Bill > > > >On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:06:18 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >There is a troubling matter that seems to be growing as time goes by. It is >the movement to computerize club newsletters. By now, we should all know how >much easier it is to write, compose and publish the "newsletter" on a >computer. > >but, there is where the problem begins. > >Not everyone has a computer. And, those who do are not always able to >download/read the newsletter on screen or online. And, sometimes it is just >not convienent to so do (ever try sitting on the pot with your PC balanced on >your knees?) > >Most of all, those who have no computer are being LEFT OUT (and feeling it). > As an AMA VP in NM I have heard from several people who are members of AMA >chartered clubs which have decided to suspend printing and mailing hard >copies (ostensibly to "save" production costs). In one case the cost of a >web site is greater than the cost of postage...!! To a man, these people are >not planning to renew their memberships because they feel left out of the >loop. > >Perhaps we need to hold up a moment and rethink this situation. Publishing >only on line smacks of "eliteism. This would be OK if it were a computer >club where EVERYONE had a computer..it is not alright for a MODEL club >where owning/using a computer is NOT necessary/required..!! > >If you are in such a club, please IMMEDIATELY make arrangements to provide >hard copy for any member who wants one...and be sure it is without >malice. Do not make offhand comments about how much easier it would be >if... or, how much cheaper it would be if... > >Folks there are so few of us modelers there is just no room for such >foolishness. > >TIA > >Jimbo in NM >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Strength of HLG fuselages
> Comes in a can a little taller and narrower than a soup can, sorta like a > small tennis ball can. You can find it at most hardware stores. I've found > it at Ace Hardware, Walmart, Home Depot and LumberJack. Get the dip stuff, > the spray is ineffective and messy. This stuff can be thinned or brought back from near death with "Toluene". It is heavy, so I would suggest thinning for an HLG. Incidently, my Mosquito Hawk MHLG is a pod and boom design with the pod being epp covered with a minimum amount of filament tape strips for strength. An HLG pod could be built the same way with just a couple of wraps of tape or a thin layer of dip it. The covering is the heaviest part of the pod, so I try to avoid it. Mark Mech [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Stylus manuals....???
> Don Edberg wrote a programming manual for Futaba, and it's great! Is there any one that wrote one one the Stylus Most instruction manuals by the manufactures are not easy to understand.??? --- Barrett Stridiron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On the plus side, having the manuals available > online is a powerfull sales > tool. > >People can check out the manual and drool over all > the cool features. This > gets > >them excited and ready to buy the radio. > > On the minus side, if the manuals are poorly written > and confusing, people > might just be turned off your product. The Stylus > manual isn't that bad, > but it can certainly use some improvement. > > Ever read the manual for Futaba's 9Z radios? Gave > me a headache... I swear > they just translated the original engineering notes > from Japanese and put a > binder on it! (They don't publish these online > either.) > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] CASL Contest...Thanks !!!
Good afternoon all, I have a practical book about our trip and the contest, and its actually too long and funny to publish. I was invited by Dave Wenzlick after our trip to Visilia, Karen and I hooked up with our friends from Chicago, and California, at Karlton Spindles MPX tent. After all, he has the hospitality kooler. Pandemonium was had by all, even after Karlton was ripped off, my Profi 400 stolen and my new Atremis broke, when they broke into his car at the hotel. By the Way, not even 3 hours into the next day Karlton replaced my airplane !! I ended up flying my Cobra Lite, and did well up until the 6th flight, where I promptly zeroed a landing. I fell from 5th place to 24th. Karlton, promoted the heck out of the CASL raffle, by donating a BUNCH of booty. It was good to see Merril of M&M Glidertech as well as Baglady AL, as well as many of the other vendors. Dave Corven, Stan Kouch, Henry Bostic, Jim and Dave McCarthy, Joe, Darrel and others bolster friendships developed during contests, that makes a contest just that more enjoyable. A big "Thanks" to the CASL Contest Directors, "Cooks" and chief bottle washers. Cincinnati to Phoenix..Was the trip worth it? You betcha !!! See you all at the, "2001 R/C Soaring Nationals" in Muncie, IN Jack Strother LSF President ___ Visit http://www.visto.com/info, your free web-based communications center. Visto.com. Life on the Dot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Genie Fuselage for Sale
Attention scratch builders. I have a Genie fuselage for sale that I built over a year ago. I will never finished the project so I am selling it to give someone a good head start on a Genie. The fuse is about 95% done and includes the fin (with bellcrank installed) and rudder. Its ready for final sanding and glassing. Includes plans, fiberglass canopy and clock springs for the tip joiners. Fuselage is straight and strong. $45 and I'll ship it for free. I can send a photo if you would like one. Thanks, Doug RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
The high-start parachute doesn't open during launch because of tension between the line end and the plane end, which YES, IS the apex (actually, it does open a little). The purpose of the chute is to lay the line out downwind after you fly off the ring. If you didn't have a chute, after you flew off, you would end up with 400 feet of line in one big pile(tangle). Matt - Original Message - From: Stefan Smets To: Dean Wooldridge ; Soaring Newsgroup Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for? Could this question please be answered in public ? Thanks, Stefan. > 2. Am I right that the ring on the top (apex) of the chute attaches to the plane? So why then doesn't it open up during > launch and screw things up?
RE: [RCSE] Hi-start Parachute - what's it for?
Thanks to all who answered; after rereading the instructions that came with my chutes with these explanations in mind, I think I understand now, but just to be sure: the chute is in fact actually _part_ of the tow line then (by the shroud lines) ? Until now, I was under the impression that it was just fastened in some way or another to the tow line, but not actually taking it's part of the tension. If all the above is correct, no need to answer, but please correct me if I'm still wrong :-) Thanks, Stefan. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nats
At 10:18 PM 2/7/2001, R Bothell wrote: >How do I enter the Nats this July? Are there entries out somewhere? >Frequency closures? Thanks, Rick Bothell Not to be missed... a week of flying. 8-) http://www.silentflight.org Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of Chicago SOAR club ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at http://www.mcs.net/~bacuslab/soaring.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] WTB
Looking for a DJ Aerotech Nymph for a friend...anyone got one for sale? New preferred, contact off list please. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] gluing foam cores
What kind of glue is good for gluing foam cores together before bagging? I'm using std blue foam and spyder foam. I tried a very thin layer of 5-min epoxy last time. The cores looked smooth before before bagging. But it ended up showing as a mild ridge in the wings, if you hold them up to a light. Thanks, Jon Stone RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Southwest Classic detailed scores and pictures
Final scores with details have been updated at: http://www.users.qwest.net/~slickraft/swc2001final.htm If the pictures all load properly the photo link on the above page will show a little of the action last weekend. If you were a pilot, send me your plane flown so I can update the listing. Thanks, Dave Wenzlick Mesa AZ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] I fell like a peice of taffy!
Well Karlton. I think you need a VACATION, with all that Stress man. Go to Wallowa, you'll love it! AL Karlton Spindle wrote: > Not funny guys who make the dates! > Who's BRILLIANT idea was it to make THREE of this years MUST be at soaring > events on the same WEEKEND? > > LSF / AMA Nats > Pasadena trade show and two day contest > AND > S&E Alpine Soaring Event. > > As I was army volunteered in to running the trade show at Pasadena, BEFORE > I knew the dates I might add. AND I am helping with the donations for the > workers raffle at the nats (SEND IN THE GOOD GUYS) and I committed to the > Alpine soaring event. I need to know who has a cloning machine? > > Smooth Sailing, > Karlton Spindle > http://www.MultiplexRC.com > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Wedworth;Albert tel;fax:1-530-345-7644 tel;home:1-530-343-1715 tel;work:1-888-457-1550 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.thebagladyal.com org:The Bag Lady adr:;;4 Brittany Ln.;Chico,;CA;95926;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner fn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] end:vcard
[RCSE] NSP Make a Deal days
Yep! We are having a special End of the Week, Make a Deal Days Specials! Have to make room for some new stock so the REAL Boss (Carolyn) says to clean some shelves! Good deals in abundance! Look at our Daily Specials on our website for more details. -- Sal DeFrancesco Northeast Sailplane Products 948 Hercules Dr. Suite 12 Colchester, Vt. 05446 802-655-7700 Website: http://www.nesail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Reward
Mark, NOTHING WAS STOLEN FROM MERRILL AT THE FIELD Merrill is offering a reward only to aid in the arrest and conviction of whoever nailed Carlton and the other person whose vehicles were robbed at the Hampton. Ron. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] v-tail setup
I can't remember... is the setup supposed to be biased so that the upgoing surface travels more than the downgoing one, or is it the other way around? Thanks
[RCSE] Gunther Props for a $1.00
Sorry for the repost our 1-800 line was down. :( So I have extended the $1.00 Günther prop deal for a few days. If you have a Twin Star, Pico Jet, Zagi 400 this is a SMOKING deal. Props for $1.00 800 375-1312 <-- Its working!!! SORRY for the bandwidth... Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Starter radio?
Group, I picked up my sons a zagi last weekend at the NW model show. I was planning on getting them a Hitec focus III fm 555rx and 2 hs81mg's for the zagi. That setup would cost me about 110 bucks. I ran across the weekly sale at nesail.com. Sal has the multiplex pico international set on for $139.95! Seems like a great deal to me. I already have a cockpit mm transmitter. Would the pico be a good setup up from the focus III? Will the servo's that come with the pico cut it for the zagi? Any thoughts? Thanks. --pat. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
