RE: [RCSE] tip aileron theory (was 6 servo+stylus)
Fly where the lift is, a do what is necessary to capitalize on it. restated once more. thanks. Some how this thread has seemed to wander away from what people were actually saying with regards to coordination in thermal turns. Coordinated turns are a must in thermal flying. All too often I see R/C pilots couple rudder to aileron electronically and call that a coordinated turn. I never advocated skidding around with rudder to keep the wings flat, but turning efficiently in a given thermal. In order to stay centered, and coordinated, in a thermal when flying a particular sailplane or thermal, cross controlling is sometimes required, this does not mean that you are flying uncoordinated all the time, skidding around the sky. Good pilots use their left thumb a lot. Compared to a full scale, a model's smaller size allows them much more leeway when thermaling. I talk of flying at scale R/C altitudes now, of 1500 to 2500 feet. The thermals are bigger, both relatively and physically than at 600-900 feet. When flying TD ships at the boundary layer altitudes that is another story. I have an article on the Scale Soaring page by Wayne Angivine about this phenomena if anyone wants to read it. Under tech tips. John Derstine Scale Soaring: http://www.Geocities.com/scalesoar Endless Mountain Models note new email address E-mail; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/scalesoar/EMM/rand.htm -Original Message- From: Richard Knott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:01 AM To: Soaring@airage. com Subject: Re: [RCSE] tip aileron theory (was 6 servo+stylus) Good full-scale practice, once centered in the thermal, is to simply check whether the thermal has a much faster core by making tighter coordinated turns (obviously with steeper bank angle) for a couple of turns and see if RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F**K
Here are some folks to complain to if you found this post offensive: IP block admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISP admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Bill From: Terry Keen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] FUCK Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:25:41 +0-100 Received: from [63.140.43.61] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBDA5DF220024400437603F8C2B3D0DB80; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:26:41 -0800 Received: from flyby.airage.com ([192.168.1.62]) by List.airage.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 35-56975U100L100S0V35) with ESMTP id com for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:29:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mstay.com ([209.239.224.131]) by flyby.airage.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 35-56975U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:27:59 -0500 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:27:49 -0800 Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip ___ This email was sent using a free, fully functional, promotional version of JustMail. Get your free copy at: http://www.mstay.com/justmail.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Cumberland 2001
PIctures, pictures, we gotta have pics of the new plane. Update thy WebSite! --Bill From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Cumberland 2001 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:28:43 EST In a message dated 10/28/2001 10:03:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There were two highlights for the flying. First was getting on the sticks of Denny Maize's new sloper, the Hammerhead. It is so named based on the appearance of the forward-swept wing. It's a great flyer. It's light enough to go when most 60 slopers can't, but it can also handle lots of ballast for rippin' acro. It's a great all around flyer; thermaling, acro, very fast. etc. Sounds like it will be VERY affordable, too. Hey Rudy I'm still trying to get your finger impressions out of the sticks:-) Denny Maize Polecat Aeroworks (717) 789-0146 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.polecataero.com;http://www.polecataero.com/A RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bagging 101
I got the pump surplus about 20 years ago. The pump body is mounted on a steel plate and a 1/2hp electric motor drives the pump via a flex coupling. Your best bet would be to go to an air conditioning supply house and get one of the pumps they use to evacuate A/C systems. Those pumps are designed to pull a good vacuum and run all day and they would cost _much_ less than a pump from a laboratory supply company. --Bill From: Andrew E. Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Bagging 101 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 16:03:00 -0500 Bill Harris wrote: My vacuum pump is a nice Gast carbon vane unit that'll pull 28 all day. I'll need to regulate that vacuum down so I don't end up with very, very thin wings. ;) Mind telling me the model number, and where you got it? I'm in the market for a new pump. Thanks. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] FUCK
Can't you find something more constructive to do? Joe Naber RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F**K
On 10/29/01 6:32 AM, Joseph Naber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't you find something more constructive to do? Joe Naber And can we at least change the headers before we respond to this crap?? No sense in propagating it. We need to remember that there are innocents who may have access to this list. I was not so much offended as I was curious about the sad little mind that felt the need to post something like that. I figure it was either a kid, or worse yet, an adult with the mind of a child. Either way, ignoring these fools is the best thing to do with them, it simply drives them insane. ~~ Bill Malvey Ladera Ranch, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] What the ????
This exchange is looking more like a chat room everyday! Why are we using such trashy words!! We do have a reputation to uphold.. Most all soaring pilots I know have more class than that! Lets clean it up shall we?? Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Ezone (was ...newbie yet)
Andy Roberts asked: what is the ezone? It is an on-line magazine devoted to electric-powered flight: http://www.ezonemag.com/ Dick -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Richard C. WilliamsonPhone: 781-981-7857 Room C-317 FAX:781-981-0122 Lincoln Laboratory Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Massachusetts Institute of Technology 244 Wood Street Lexington, MA 02420-9108 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] LIFT Ticket!!!
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[RCSE] Acacia DLG
Has anyone built an Acacia DLG? Thanks mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Perfect Soaring Weekend
After lousy weather the middle of last week, we had great soaring weather this weekend in Minnesota. Saturday the winds were light, and thermals were plentiful. It is so neat to be able to catch a thermal at 25 feet and work it up slowly with very little drift. Almost every throw you could hit some thermal lift. Sunday the wind was up, perfect slope flying weather. The Kestrel showed gusts up to 30 mph but it felt like 50 mph. This was the first time I had flown an aileron 2-meter on a big slope. It was a hoot to say the least. Flying on a big slope, the dips in the wind speed don't really make a difference, there is always lift. Almost makes going to work on Monday bearable after a good weekend of soaring. Bill Kuhl RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] MPX Stick Ends
The MPX stick ends are fairly wide, flat and smooth. Are different ends available with a more rough or knurled texture on the TOP, similar to the Japanese transmitter sticks? Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Joe, Brookville Dam in southeast Indidana also is closed but only to vehicle traffic opn top, we can fly, but you have to tote your stuff up, and for a guy doing his eight hour or something, that is a load. Marc -Original Message- From: Joe G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Easy there.I think the question here is why would foot traffic be prohibited when auto and truck(bomb???) traffic is not. Andy Page wrote: You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] R/C Slope and Power Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://members.nbci.com/bjaffee/extra300/ OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Mr. Page, You might want to read the post I made before you start flaming my ass. I'm all for necessary security in light of the recent situation. However if they are truly concerned about the security of this site why would they allow truck and auto traffic to run right over the dam? Why would they allow boats to pull up right next to the dam? Why would they allow fishermen to stand right next to the powerhouse? Why would they be moreconcerned about a group of slope flyers who have been flying at this site for over 5 years than the above? So if you really feel like flaming me for questioning what I view as a really stupid situation, feel free, but be sure of your facts and read through the post to understand the situation before you fire. Also, since you broadcasted your post, I will reply in kind. You might want to wipe your head off since it is obvisouly stuck up a smelly place... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Andy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:09:44 -0800 You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Textured surface on carbon laminate
Andy. . .I have used a lot of this stuff in spar making. It does bond pretty well, but compression stresses can pop it loose. You really need to wrap the spar assembly with Kevlar thread or unwaxed dental floss to help assure no separation will take place. Such wraps, however, are rougher than the texture in the CF and thin balsa caps applied with a light coat of epoxy and sanded smooth are the easy fix. Of course, all these things need to be sized to fit accurately in the core or whatever other kind of construction is involved. Harley, LSF023. - Original Message - From: Andy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:16 PM Subject: [RCSE] Textured surface on carbon laminate I bought some unidirectional carbon laminate strips for my upcoming Bird of Time project, and was surprised to see the fabric weave texture on them - I thought they'd sent the wrong items... the response from CST is below. I still think it seems odd - I was expecting to just lightly sand the surface and clean with alcohol to prep for laminating to the wood spar. Is a texture formed by excess resin really the best situation? Seems like it will be more difficult to get it perfectly clean before gluing... We texture the surfaces of our carbon laminates so you will not have to sand them. The carbon fibers are unidirectional. The surface texture is done during the curing process with Teflon Coated Glass that is removed after the carbon is cured. The result is the epoxy bleeds into the fabric texture and cures on the surface with the weave of the TCG. This process improves your bond with the carbon since the bondable surface area is increased. I hope this answers your questions. Please feel free to inquire anytime you have questions or concerns. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Seems like all I really did was ask two questions. They were not flames. I would agree with you regarding boats at the base. Andy From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:31:12 -0600 Mr. Page, You might want to read the post I made before you start flaming my ass. I'm all for necessary security in light of the recent situation. However if they are truly concerned about the security of this site why would they allow truck and auto traffic to run right over the dam? Why would they allow boats to pull up right next to the dam? Why would they allow fishermen to stand right next to the powerhouse? Why would they be moreconcerned about a group of slope flyers who have been flying at this site for over 5 years than the above? So if you really feel like flaming me for questioning what I view as a really stupid situation, feel free, but be sure of your facts and read through the post to understand the situation before you fire. Also, since you broadcasted your post, I will reply in kind. You might want to wipe your head off since it is obvisouly stuck up a smelly place... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Andy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:09:44 -0800 You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
I think the jist of it is, it is easier to moniter and keep vehicle traffic moving along the dam, where as either law enforcement or the dam operators may not have the man power to observe foot traffic, and my self personally, I feel that as nice a place as it is to fly, it may be unwise to fly r/c aircraft around a dam or other structure like that. people nerves are on edge and so people might percive some even as simple as an r/c aircraft as a threat.This may for the time being be on of the sacrifices that we all have to make at a time like this. Mark Mothersead Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy there.I think the question here is why would foot traffic be prohibited when auto and truck(bomb???) traffic is not.Andy Page wrote: You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: "Joe G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- _Brett Jaffee[EMAIL PROTECTED]R/C Slope and Power Homepagehttp://home.earthlink.net/~jaffeeThe Unoffical Extra 300 Home Pagehttp://members.nbci.com/bjaffee/extra300/OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utilityhttp://www.planetquake.com/ontheway_RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Hi JoeI have not sold my winch trailer yet so if you and any of the Nashville group want to venture down on one of these nice sunny days, let me know and we'll be set up waiting for youBrian Smith From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Mark, I agree. But that is not the case. We can still fly on the lake side (I flew at lunch today in fact). The fishermen are still allowed to fish and they are walking or boating the whole length of the dam. I just feel that this is a situation that in which the terroists are winning by changing our lifestyle. If the dam was closed to ALL traffic I wouldn't be saying a word about it, but it isn't. As far as I can tell the only people affected are the slope heads, the kite flyers, the dog walkers, and the gay guys that used the park below the dam as a meeting place. Am I confused or in error to think that this is just wrong? Joe Original Message Follows From: Mark Mothersead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:59:21 -0800 (PST) I think the jist of it is, it is easier to moniter and keep vehicle traffic moving along the dam, where as either law enforcement or the dam operators may not have the man power to observe foot traffic, and my self personally, I feel that as nice a place as it is to fly, it may be unwise to fly r/c aircraft around a dam or other structure like that. people nerves are on edge and so people might percive some even as simple as an r/c aircraft as a threat.This may for the time being be on of the sacrifices that we all have to make at a time like this. Mark Mothersead Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy there.I think the question here is why would foot traffic be prohibited when auto and truck(bomb???) traffic is not. Andy Page wrote: You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] R/C Slope and Power Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://members.nbci.com/bjaffee/extra300/ OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Was Terry Keen flying at this dam too? 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
