Re: [RCSE] Probability question

2002-09-17 Thread tony estep

--- Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone tell me the probability of 6 random events taking place in
 a
 specific order? Is it 1 in 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2? (1 in 720) or does some
 other
 formula apply?

Harley,

You can arrange the letters ABCDEF in 6! = 720 different orders. If the
question is what is the probability of 6 independent events taking
place in a certain order, the answer you give above is correct. Say you
have 6 socks in a drawer: yellow, red, blue, green, white and orange.
You reach in blindfolded and draw them out randomly, one at a time. The
probability that they'll come out in the order quoted (YRBGWO) is
1/720.



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[RCSE] Ankor Berg-sonne contact me please

2002-09-17 Thread TANKMAN58

PREGive me an email   John
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Re: [RCSE] standard servo movement HELP

2002-09-17 Thread Andrew E. Mileski

Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner wrote:
 Is there a reasonable standard I can assume for
 the number of degrees a servo will move each
 direction from neutral, given a TX without any
 servo-travel programming enabled or a non computer
 TX?
 
 How much variation is there in this range of
 motion, if any?
 
 If servo types are a key component in this query,
 I am specifically looking for motion range for
 CS-10's, MX-30's, HS-50's and HS-55's

120 degrees (60 from neutral each direction) is pretty typical.

Most servos can go nearly 180 degrees before hitting a mechanical
stop, which is usually only possible with subtrim adjustments and
extreme deflection.

Most pots have a wider range than this (about 270 degrees), so the
movement is still consistent at the extremes.

-- 
Andrew E. Mileski
Ottawa, Canada

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[RCSE] Probability Question...

2002-09-17 Thread Les Grammer

Oops, Bill's right, depends on the set of events, and whether the events 
can occur only once or not.

But still, with enough monkeys, and enough time ...   oh, never mind again!
:)



-Les

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[RCSE] Probability question inputs thanks.

2002-09-17 Thread Harley Michaelis

Thanks to all who pitched in with answers.
One fellow, Ed Granger, who teaches on the discipline of probabilities, etc.
even called to offer some insight. Thanks, Ed!

Each of the 6 events also has it own rather high improbability which greatly
complicates the question well beyond that involved with dice or colored
marbles, etc.

If anyone is interested, just ask and I will e-mail you a page with the
details for you to mull over. It is soaring related only to the effect on
my heart which has now soared for over 40 years because of 6 unlikely events
that occurred in a certain order!

Harley Michaelis, 26 S. Roosevelt, Walla Walla, WA 99362, ph. (509) 529-2562

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[RCSE] A.M.A. of Canada...

2002-09-17 Thread Les Grammer

Anyone tell me what organization is the AMA equivalent in Canada?  Is it 
IMAC?  Do they have a web site


-Les

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RE: [RCSE] A.M.A. of Canada...

2002-09-17 Thread Brian Jarchow

The Model Aeronautics Association of Canada
www.maac.ca

There is a reciprocal agreement between the MAAC and AMA so if a member of
one organization is visiting the other country their membership qualifies
them to participate in the other organization's activities.

But if you go to Canada, be VERY nice. It seems too many contest directors
and club airfield bosses are stuck up jerks who won't listen or read the
AMA's documents when presented, and just plain refuse to honor the MAAC
cards. I highly doubt you will find MAAC members that won't honor AMA
membership, but you'll find some people holding grudges.

A few years back I was in southern California with a friend from Vancouver
and we found a handlaunch competition the weekend we would be there. They
would not let my friend participate without buying an AMA membership, and
would not read the AMA statement of reciprocity. So I have no reason to
doubt that there are a lot of rude AMA members who will discriminate against
MAAC members.

Brian

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [RCSE] A.M.A. of Canada...


 Anyone tell me what organization is the AMA equivalent in Canada?  Is it
 IMAC?  Do they have a web site


 -Les

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[RCSE] Fwd: AMA Official Notice

2002-09-17 Thread Brian Chan

To all,

I don't know who get this already, but I think everyone should at 
least know about this from AMA. And everyone should join in to 
support this.

Brian



From: AMA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: B CHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:11:06 -0500
Subject: AMA Official Notice
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   Hello B,


AMA Official Notice
To: All Modelers Worldwide

It is of vital importance to the future of our sport that you are 
made aware that the Torrey Pines Gliderport in San Diego, California 
has been closed to radio-controlled sailplanes, this despite the 
fact that this gliderport is listed on the City, State, and National 
Registers of Historic Sites for all forms of motorless flight.

By decision of the for-profit lessee (Air California 
Adventures/David Jebb), the site was closed on August 7, 2002. This 
closure was based on his interpretation of the AMA Safety Code and 
therefore insurance coverage does not apply. The safety issues he 
mentioned were stipulated in vague and incomplete terms.

It would appear that the City of San Diego has given exclusive power 
to the lessee regarding flight operations at this public park. The 
August 7 notice stated that closure was by ordinance of the City of 
San Diego. When an inquiry was made to the city, Christian Anderson, 
Property Agent, stated The City of San Diego has not ordered the 
termination of RC soaring at Torrey Pines. Apparently the question 
of authority remains up for grabs.

AMA has engaged a fellow modeler and Torrey Pines Gliderport pilot 
as legal counsel. He is currently working with a task team of local 
modelers. Additional information on this task force is available on 
the Torrey Pines Gulls Web page at www.torreypinesgulls.org. A 
meeting between this task force, Air California Adventure, and the 
City of San Diego was held on September 5, 2002. Despite this 
meeting being called by the City, there was no neutral mediator. As 
a result the meeting was one-sided and very little was accomplished.

As an interested modeler, we know you value this sport of 
aeromodeling. This effort demands and now solicits your support. 
Since this action to exclude radio controlled soaring at this 
world-famous institution was apparently based on misinformation, not 
facts, we believe the voice of the modeler needs to be heard. Ask 
for the opportunity to be heard in favor of model aviation and its 
unrestricted continuance at the Torrey Pines Gliderport. Also ask 
for an acknowledgment and request a meeting with principal officials 
involved, along with meeting notification. Request that the City of 
San Diego maintains operation of model aviation at the Torrey Pines 
Gliderport. Send your letter to the San Diego City Manager, Michael 
T. Uberuaga. Also, at the end of this official notice is a list of 
other key officials to consider when sending a copy of your letter.

Tell Mr. Uberuaga what model aviation means to you! Help the City 
appreciate that model aviation is educational, constructive, career 
building, and an alternative to drugs for youth! There are no 
physical barriers, and it's open to people of all ages. Our sport 
encourages an early interest in the field of aviation. Model 
aviation promotes better-educated youth for research and the 
development of future technology.

Join our efforts and support this with a short letter and do it now!

If time is a constraint then at least send a note to the effect:

I, [your name], as a model aircraft enthusiast, request that the 
City of San Diego upholds Resolution R-290676, adopted September 8, 
1998, that the Torrey Pines Gliderport be operated for non-powered 
flight as has been since 1930 and that the use continues on this 
property to serve the general public. That the Torrey Pines 
Gliderport be managed by a City of San Diego employee and not leased 
to any party with a conflict of interest by operating a for-profit 
business and serving as overall Flight Director simultaneously.

Sign and date your letter and don't forget to add your address. 
Please forward a copy to:

The Academy of Model Aeronautics
Attn. Torrey Pines Gliderport
5161 East Memorial Drive
Muncie, IN 47302

City of San Diego Officials:

City Manager
Michael T. Uberuaga
202 C Street, MS 9 A
San Diego, CA92101
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Mayor
Dick Murphy
202 C Street, 11th Floor
San Diego, CA 92101
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Assistant City Manager
P. Lamont Ewell
202 C Street, MS #9A
San Diego, CA 92101 City Attorney
Casey Gwinn
Civic Center Plaza
1200 Third Avenue, Suite 1200
San Diego, CA 92101
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Scott Peters
202 C Street, MS #10A
San Diego, CA 92101
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Relations Director
Bruce Williams
202 C Street, 11th Floor
San Diego, CA 92101
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Deputy 
City Attorney
Priscilla Dugard
Civic Center Plaza
1200 Third Avenue, Suite 

[RCSE] Secrets of Thermals DVD Released !

2002-09-17 Thread Paul Naton

The Secrets of Thermal Soaring DVD is Ready!

You can now order the DVD version of our incredibly popular and educational
Secrets of Thermal Soaring video.

We will be shipping the first back order batch this week and will burn disks
as fast as we can so most orders will go out in about a week.

For a preview of the bitchin' full color packaging and DVD menus,
go to the Secrets Info Page:
http://radiocarbonart.com/Pages/asecthermalmain.html

Use this link to go directly to our Secure Online Store...
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As always, we are also available to take your order by phone:
Call #541-752-9661 Weekdays 10am-5pm Pacific Time

A huge thanks to all the guys who have purchased the video version.

Paul Naton
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Paul Naton
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Producers of High Quality R/C Silent Flight Videos
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[RCSE] OVSS Fall Round up

2002-09-17 Thread Brian Iva Smith


Congrats to my Buddy Jerry Shape for showing the boys how it is done on 
Sunday..Taking first place with his Fusion...Brian Smith


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Re: [RCSE] OVSS Fall Round up

2002-09-17 Thread James V. Bacus

At 08:17 PM 9/17/2002, you wrote:

Congrats to my Buddy Jerry Shape for showing the boys how it is done on 
Sunday..Taking first place with his Fusion...Brian Smith

I timed for Jerry in a couple of rounds, he was flying smooth and putting 
his model in the right places at the right times, really good stuff.

And congrats to Karl Miller for first on Saturday and second on Sunday 
making him overall weekend champ flying his woobie Victory C.  That plane 
is so old I can't remember how many years he has been flying it, he knows 
it like the back of his hand.

There was just some awesome flying going on...


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III
ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net

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[RCSE] Something For The Building Season..

2002-09-17 Thread Jeb Bushell

If you want to build a bagged wing quickly then you
may want to do it with a tubular carbon spar, like the
professionals do.  

It's not so easy to design an efficient planform and
work out the track of the spar through the foam.  It
depends on the airfoil you choose.

There is now a modified liftroll spreadsheet that does
this.  It uses an HN345SR as the airfoil, but you can
easily substitute the values of your favorite.

You can download this spreadsheet from the Liftroll
Cookbook website.  See link below.  Look for A
3-piece 132 With Tube Spar.

Happy Christmas,


=
Jeb Bushell
Newtown Square, PA

http://www.geocities.com/jebbushell/COOKBOOK.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jebbushell/vfss_soaring.htm

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Re: [RCSE] Probability question

2002-09-17 Thread RBothell


- Original Message -
From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Probability question


 Can anyone tell me the probability of 6 random events taking place in a
 specific order? Is it 1 in 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2? (1 in 720) or does some
other
 formula apply?

Yup,  1 / (6 X 5 X 4 X 3 X 2 X 1) = 1 / (6 factorial)=  1 / 720  =
0.00139  approx

Rick Bothell


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[RCSE] The Garden of Eden

2002-09-17 Thread dcalder


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Re: [RCSE] Eye Protection for Really Windy Weather

2002-09-17 Thread Klaus Weiss

I try not to wear baggy shorts on the slope. Prevents my tenticles from
blowing around in the wind.

Klaus K Weiss
Sydney, Australia
http://www.h.s.l.rcclubs.com

 Definitely, I have my court jesters hat so all those tenticles can blow
 back in the wind!  8-))


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