Re: [RCSE] SS antenna
For such a joint, between solid SS and stranded copper, you should use heat shrink tubing, extending well onto the copper, as a strain relief. ___ Ryan Flowers www.ryanflowers.com www.cruiserpages.com Reno, NV - Original Message - From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rick Van Clief [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] SS antenna Yep, this would most likely work. I did something similar myself and the DAW Dragonette instructions called for this method as well. When I did it I just used one of my pushrods. Just make sure your solder joint can tolerate all the motion. Because you're using a solid wire the joint with the stranded wire will suffer allot of flexing. Over time this could become a failure spot. A separate wire is usually not necessary though sometimes simpler and less problematic. Be cautious of metal to metal contact points such as between a pushrod and a clevis or, worse, one pushrod to another. Typically we can get away with allot of poor installation mistakes (I did) but it's always better to be careful with the installation. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] CL-DSing or Model Aviation Soaring Column
Dan--Sometime during WW2, I think Jim Walker brought out an unpowered U/C, that was flown with a fishing pole--the lines running thru the loops on the pole. The weight in the nose was plaster of paris. I flew one of these, I did that in '48 or '49 too. Seem to remember it was a built up P-84 by Burkley(???) that I got from AHC. Dennis in NH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] CL-DSing: A memory revived
A memory revived for me too on this thread. As a young boy in Fairbanks Alaska, my pals and I made super-crude sort of U-C planes from corrugated cardboard and wood scraps. Over one summer, we took them through three levels of complexity. The first were simply cardboard planforms roughly modeled after a favorite paper airplane design of ours, weighted and balanced to be flung in a constant circle on the end of a single string. The only control influence was having the string short enough so that oscillating one's arm had some effect on altitude. You could get sort of a dive or climb out of the deal, but that was about it. Thing was, that was plenty fascinating enough for a good while. Just the chance to stare at a 'flying' craft of my own creation, with utter concentration, while the rest of the world whizzed past in a blur, was enough motivation to fly session after session, even though the recovery was often long and queasy! Strangely, of the three levels of glider, in some ways, this simplest one was the best, because there was the most sense that the thing was finding it's own trim, and kind of 'flying itself'. The next level of craft had the pilot holding a ten or twelve inch stick with a line at each end, tied off fore and aft on the aircraft planform (which was essentially a flying wing). The idea was to give some better control over pitch, which worked some. If you got too agressive and tried a loop, the lines would cross, and since we had only high friction string, even a single line crossing would usually lead to disaster. More crashes meant more repairs, and less motivation to keep flying. Interesting how those forces come into play in a kid's world. We could always go work on the tree fort, so at some point the cardboard planes lost out. The final level was actual elevator control with a central swing line to take the centripetal force, and two control lines off of each end of a control stick, turned through some kind of eyes on a central wood-stick fuselage, and controlling a broad elevator. This probably got the biggest laughs out of us, because the combination of poorly designed systems, and aerodynamic misunderstandings led to a flight profile in which, if you were lucky, you'd get the swing started, hold it level for a few circles with intense paranoia, try just one elevator movement, and immediately end in a furball of damaged airplane and tangled string. The funny thing was that if we'd had just a little more patience, materials, and engineering, we were actually pretty close to something that would have been serious fun. Instead, the 'full house' version was a constant disaster, and was quickly scrapped. I guess it's no wonder that I find such joy as an adult in radio control gliders. And, generally, I still seem to prefer the simple over the complex. Lift, Scobie in Seattle -Original Message- From: James C Deck [mailto:jcdeck;attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:16 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] CL-DSing: A memory revived OK, when I was very young, model airplane engines were beyond the economic capabilities of some of us. Enter whip-powered UC - the plane was simply whipped (BTW, a no-no in UC) and controlled. Some got quite good, others quite dizzy, but all had fun. All of the thrills of UC with none of the noise - we flew in a jr. high gym. No ARFs in those days. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SanFran Questions
I'm done in SF for the next couple of days where do they fly here and also isn't Multiplex around here somewhere? Directions and ideas would be appreciated thanks.--Glenn W.Tri-Cities, WaDo you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
[RCSE] Makin' wings and lookin' for advice.
I'm working on a 1m scratchbuild for bombing around on our surly New England slopes, and I have a couple of questions. 1: I'd like a semisymmetrical airfoil so I can get some of the speed I've been missing with my 7037 wings. However, our lift here is erratic and often lighter than I might wish. What's the liftiest airfoil I could find that will still be low-drag? Please remember that this is a small ship and excessive subtlety will be lost in the manufacture. 2: I'd like to have my cores computer cut. Someone posted to the list a couple of months ago about cutting cores, but I've lost the address. Could I get a sound-off about who people use? -J RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Makin' wings and lookin' for advice.
A 1 meter span is pretty small. Your RE#'s will be quite small as well. It's not a problem necessarily, but you may see some surprises. Personally, I'd suggest the RG14. It did well for me but I've never tried it with chord lengths as small as what your planning. Steve Patton's small warbirds were quite zippy in only moderate lift. Anyone know what did Steve used? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Alternative to 3M 77
'cept for this part.. (from a warning box near the bottom): * The California Air Resources Board (CARB) has established new lower levels of Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) and banned the use of some solvents for certain categories of aerosol products. This product DOES NOT comply with the new CARB regulation and is not offered for sale in the State of California. For CARB compliant products, please ask to see our new Shelby product line. Ok, I'm all for cleaner air, but California is overdoing it - they work so hard to control the stuff that would have such a minimal effect as to be pointless. - Original Message - From: Tom Broeski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Alternative to 3M 77 Camie works great and is cheaper. http://www.camie.com/prod_cat/adh_cat.htm Tom TG 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax/ 943-4178 - Original Message - From: Roy G Biv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Alternative to 3M 77 Any body come up with a reasonable alternative to the old 3M77 yet? I'd prefer not to have to brush it on whatever it is. I like Southern's Sorghum (sp?) from Dave Brown Products. Prolly sheeted 10 sets of wings with the stuff, and expect to sheet the next ten sets with it. Water-based (no stink, no fire hazard) contact adhesive. Brush-on with disposable foam brush lets you accurately control the application rate and amount. Roy G. Biv, Publisher Slope Trash Magazine www.slopeflyer.com _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Makin' wings and lookin' for advice.
At 12:50 PM -0500 11/1/02, Monkey King wrote: I'm working on a 1m scratchbuild for bombing around on our surly New England slopes, and I have a couple of questions. 2: I'd like to have my cores computer cut. Someone posted to the list a couple of months ago about cutting cores, but I've lost the address. Could I get a sound-off about who people use? However the core is cut, by hand (over template) or comuputer, the accuracy come from how you finish the wing. Couple passed of the sanding block will send all the accuracy out the window. Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Alternative to 3M 77
I use 300 for general use. The 303 I use for gluing fabric to foam 313 for foam to foam (very flammable and not good for you) 373 as a replacement for 3M 77 (won't eat the foam like new 77) I have to buy by the case (24 cans) and will gladly resell if anyone is interested. Min order will be three cans and it will be a week or so before I have the next case in. Cost varies a bit from order to order, but is usually afew dollars less than the 3M brand. If you are in a rush, you might be able to get some old 77 from here: http://falconcues.com/13m77.html be sure to ask the date of manufacture. Tom TG 32 Mount View DrAfton, VA 22920540 943-3356fax/ 943-4178 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Alternative to 3M 77 In a message dated 11/1/02 9:59:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.camie.com/prod_cat/adh_cat.htmTom, what number do you use for foam safe adhesive, and where do you buy it? TIA Bill Grenoble
Re: [RCSE] Alternative to 3M 77
Steven Bixby wrote: Ok, I'm all for cleaner air, but California is overdoing it - they work so hard to control the stuff that would have such a minimal effect as to be pointless. Oh, and don't forget the warning on servos about the dangers of eating them. Here in Canada we have things like a different formula of GOOP that isn't as flammable, but the alternative solvent used is a known carcinogen. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canda RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Leginair postmortem...
We were kicking the parkflyers around real good a couple of weeks ago. Suddenly, I saw about 300 hours of work destroy itself...(sniff!)...so I joined the fray. To those of you that urged me to look further...my receiver went south. Pure and simple, my Hitec-RCD-3800 receiver was the cause of the crash. That's my sad story. The up side is Delores is letting me order a MOLDIE!!! That sad expression works, sometimes, (I've practiced it to perfection..;^)..). Just in time for Christmas! The Legionair will not be rebuilt...I'm building 2 new ones, a 140 and a 100, both with carbon spars, for next year. Thanks to all who shared their opinions...I should have known, I was sure sick about it. Jack Womack __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Thanks for V tail advise
Thanks to those that sent details of attaching "V" tails. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Leginair postmortem...
At 01:13 PM 11/1/2002, Jack Womack wrote: The up side is Delores is letting me order a MOLDIE!!! 8-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Vision for sale
Vision 8SP in excellent condition ( just returned from Airtronics for it's annual check up ). $ 275.00 plus shipping. STAN KOCH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Airfoil alignment on a scratchbuilt fuse
Gentlemen, Scratchbuilding a large scale glider. I've gotten to the point of making the wing root fillets. I've got my balsa cut in the shape of the root, complete with the center lines courtesy of Compufoil. My question is simply: Do I align the center line of the airoil as provided by Compufoil with the fore/aft centerline of the fuselage? The obvious concern is that I would like the fuselage to be slightly nose down in most aspects of the gliding flight. The airfoil is Eppler 67at the root. The glider is an SZD-19 Zefir 4. Not a lot of info out there on this ship, but I like the looks. Sorta like an X-1 with some growth issues. Not a lot of complex curves. Info on the full size here - http://www.piotrp.de/SZYBOWCE/dszd31.htm. Info on a polish model here - hope you can read Polish... http://www.piotrp.de/MODELE/zefir4.htm TIA Lee Estingoy Overland Park, KS
[RCSE] Re: 3m 77 substitutes
I tried Southern Sorghum, it worked fine, though the ammoniac stink is somewhat off-putting, also, last I heard, they don't ship it during the winter, as it is very sensitive to freezing cold while in the bottle. That info is old, you might want to double-check on it... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
