Re: [RCSE] Pierce Arrow Paragon kits...?
Hi rdwooebke, Ed Slobod, who designed the Paragon, built and flew one with electric motor. It flew great. I don't have Ed's E mail address but do have his phone no. if needed. Thermals, art rdwoebke wrote: With all this talk of Paragons, has anyone on this list built an electric Paragon? I'm almost ready to cover my Pierce kit, but I cut out enough extra parts to make a second fuse with electric conversion in mind. I'm thinking this would make a good LMR ship. I saw a photo of one that had been converted on a website, but no info. Any real world suggestions on motor type, gearbox, controller, prop, battery, etc? Ryan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierce Arrow Paragon kits are above average. The plane is excellent. Big, stable, easy to fly--one of the best of the flat bottom airfoil floaters. Paragon's have probably won more Visalia Fall Soaring Festivals than any other design. They use to call Visalia Paragon Country. I believe the plane was originally designed for night flying. I flew a borrowed Pierce Arrow Paramount for my LSF 10K and 2 hour flights--on what was a test flight off a 100 ft launch to check the thermal sniffler. Only flight I ever made with that plane. Mike Clancy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Pierce Arrow Paragon kits...?
The origional Paragon Kits were produced by Gene Walloch who was a production Engineer for Mac/Dac and a master craftsman. Walloch had tooling for all of the curved parts which were sanded to shape. As an old freeflighter, Gene's wood selection was superb. If any of the spruce in the old kits is warped, replace it with new wood. The Paragon was indeed designed for night flying and was very sucessful in the light and the dark. I redall that the First contest the Paragon ws entered in was at Night fly in Canoga Park in 76 or 77. I think Bill Watson and i both flew the same plane and took first and second. Not a bad beginning and still the Floater by which all others are measured. Slobod is still alive and kicking. He is currently prepairing for the Bent Wing 2 day at Visalia. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Karl, I would be guessing, but even though a low battery condition exists on your Lithium battery it should be at least a week possibly a month before it was low enough to start to lose memory. Steve At 10:37 PM 3/30/2003 -0600, Karl Miller wrote: I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. Has anyone experienced what really happens and how long after the flashing L appears does the lithium battery last until it completely dies? Just wondering in case this happens at an out of town contest if it would still be safe to fly. Thanks for any info, Karl Miller RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Why worry about what will happen ? Just send it back to Horizion Hobbies and get a new Lith battery installed--and ask them to check the xmtr over while they have it. I sent my 388 back last year and got excellent service, reasonable prices and about a 2-3 week turnaround. No need to push your luck. Jim - Original Message - From: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Karl Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question Karl, I would be guessing, but even though a low battery condition exists on your Lithium battery it should be at least a week possibly a month before it was low enough to start to lose memory. Steve At 10:37 PM 3/30/2003 -0600, Karl Miller wrote: I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. Has anyone experienced what really happens and how long after the flashing L appears does the lithium battery last until it completely dies? Just wondering in case this happens at an out of town contest if it would still be safe to fly. Thanks for any info, Karl Miller RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Got an update on the Vario shipping date
According to the message I got the Varios are shipping 3/18/03but don't hold your breaths, its the same thing I got the first time I ordered..and 8 months later I am going to try calling tomorrow. "Guten Tag, Whas Upp?" More later :-) Gordy
Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Andrew, What you say is always a good idea. However, it can be done by the consumer with some care. I recently got the L on one of my 8103s. The change over probably made it 'batteryless' for 10 to 15 min. Lo, and behold, the settings were still there. Maybe there is a big capacitor in there somewhere that will hold the voltage for a small period of time. Bob Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:29:01 -0500 From: Andrew E. Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Miller wrote: I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. AFAIK, it has to be unlocked by a tech :( Hence changing the battery yourself requires extreme care to avoid loss of power during the process. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca/ -- Robert P. Andris 12155 Terrence Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 USA (408) 252-5469 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF 004, AMA 5055 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
I believe if you leave the TX battery connected you can change the lithium without fear of losing any settings. I think I saw that in the manual. Dennis - Original Message - From: Robert (Bob) P. Andris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question Andrew, What you say is always a good idea. However, it can be done by the consumer with some care. I recently got the L on one of my 8103s. The change over probably made it 'batteryless' for 10 to 15 min. Lo, and behold, the settings were still there. Maybe there is a big capacitor in there somewhere that will hold the voltage for a small period of time. Bob Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:29:01 -0500 From: Andrew E. Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Miller wrote: I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. AFAIK, it has to be unlocked by a tech :( Hence changing the battery yourself requires extreme care to avoid loss of power during the process. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca/ -- Robert P. Andris 12155 Terrence Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 USA (408) 252-5469 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF 004, AMA 5055 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIM E turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
I just got my JR back from Horizon, and they changed that as part of their standard procedure. All my settings were intact, so I'm betting that if you have battery power, you can change that out / have it done. Horizon had my (sorry-*ss) radio back to me inside of 2 weeks, for not much money: I replaced my elevator/aileron stick and a switch, about 70 bucks plus shipping. Good luck, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Soaring stuff?
Just checking on the reliability of a vendor: Soaring Stuff. No flame wars needed just good or otherwise reports please! BPA
