Re: [RCSE] New Member

2003-09-22 Thread Brian & Iva Smith
Hi Harold.Welcome..Brian Smith


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Hi guys

I just signed on to the board and wanted to say Hi.

Harold from Huntsville Soaring Club.

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[RCSE] LISF Man-on-man contest

2003-09-22 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne



We weren't sure we would get to fly. Hurricane 
Isabel had just raced through Pensyllvania and upstate New York, and Windcast 
was forecasting high winds for Long Island. In spite of the forecast 8 CRRCers 
drove to Long Island for the contest: Fritz Bien, John Nilsson, Dave Walter, 
Bruce Schneider, Jan Kansky, Mark Drela, our remote member - Jose Bruzual, and 
Anker Berg-Sonne. Miner Crary was registered but we didn't see him.
 
Saturday morning was calm and sunny, and as the day 
progressed it stayed calm with light breezes from the East and temperatures in 
the 80's with high humidity. The thermal conditions were quite poor with weak 
thermals spread far apart. A far cry from the forecast.
 
The contest format was man-on-man with experts 
flying against experts and sportsmen flying against sportsmen. Landings wre 
graduated tape landings, but just 5 feet long with 10 points per foot. Winch 
lines were short, just 500 feet, with 250 lbs line to minimize line breaks. I 
don't think there was a single line break all weekend! CD John Hauff was tough 
as usual and gave everyone, also sportsmen, one popoff per day, and also one 
line break per day! The tasks were a 5 minute task, then 6 rounds of 8 minute 
tasks and finally a 15 minute task to separate the boys from the men. Because of 
the poor thermal conditions the scores got spread out quickly. Team CRRC didn't 
have any equipment problems at all, a rare ocurrence. The contest also ran 
incredibly smoothly with no hangups, a relief, because the spring LIST contest 
had been plagued by frequent line breaks. The only major excitement was George 
Hill, who flew the wrong plane and crashed his new Aegea Mantis in the woods. 
Using my hand bearing compass he was able to find and retrieve it. The wing tips 
were pretty badly damaged. Terry Luckenbach also ended up in the woods. He 
usually manages to come back from flying far out and low, but this time  he 
got caught. His plane was unscathed.
 
At the end of the day our sportsmen had 
done really well. Bruce Schneider was in second place, Mark Drela in third, 
and Jose in fourth. Luis Bustamante took first. The CRRC experts fared less 
well. Fritz ended up in fifth place, I in sixth, Dave Walter in eigth, and John 
Nilsson in 12th. John was flying his new Aegea Mantis for the first time in a 
contest and was extremely pleased with it. John's old center panel was on Jose's 
Mantis.
 
The forecast for Sunday was for light breezes out 
of the East again. It became very variable with light breezes shifting all 
around the compass, usually pointing straight at the thermals, which were big 
and almost continually present. There wasn't a cloud in the sky all day and the 
air was crisp and dry. It simply doesn't get better. To make it something other 
than a landing contest, CD Paul Bell called for 10 minute rounds after an 
initial 5 minute tune-up round. The 10 minute rounds didn't make a big 
difference, and it ended up being a landing contest. As far as excitement goes, 
we had more. On my first launch I fluttered my ailerons on the zoom, and found 
that both aileron servos had stripped after landing. Fortunately they worked 
well enough that I could complete the flight and get my time. When I switched to 
my backup wing I omitted to change models on my transmitter in the rush and 
stripped a flap servo when it jammed against the stop. I flew with the stripped 
servo the rest of the day and had my backup ship all assembled in case the 
primary rig became unflyable. During one of my flights I heard a bang followed 
by a huge crash from the launching area. It turned out to be Fritz who had 
thrown his plane into the back of his head. After impacting the plane got pulled 
straight into the ground by the winch line. In spite of the violence of the 
crash his wing is repairable, but his fuse was broken in two places. George Hill 
managed to fly the wrong plane again and crashed his backup moldie far into the 
woods. My hand bearing compass led him to it again and it was pretty badly 
mangled. At the end of the day he bought Hand Wiedekehr's Aegea Mantis. A pretty 
expensive weekend for him. John Hauff launched once without power to the 
receiver and servos. Luckily the plane looped until it and the ground hit the 
same spot. Luckily, the damage was only cosmetic, and John could fly the next 
round after checking it thoroughly. 
 
At the end of the contest team CRRC again had a 
strong sportsman result. Bruce Schneider in first place, Mark Drela in 
second and Jose in fifth. Our experts did a bit better. I made second, Dave 
Walter made fifth, John Nilsson in eigth, Fritz in 11th (one zero round) and Jan 
Kansky in 12th. What happened, Jan?
 
I have a way of rating contest difficulty. The 
percentage of contestants that come within 90% of the winner's absolute score 
will be very high for an "easy" contest, and very low for a "difficult" one. I 
have seen it range between 2 and 50 percent. Saturday was a 21, which i

Re: [RCSE] Electric tow plane

2003-09-22 Thread Easwen6877
In a message dated 9/22/2003 9:27:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Is it possible to tow 3 meter scale gliders into the air by electric 
powered planes ? What kind of motors will be required ? 

  I have been pondering on the same subject, except I want to tow larger gliders also.
There are numerous tow planes to build (as I would build, not arf) and possibly one of the outrunner motors would be worth looking into.
I do know that Dieter at Shredair has mentioned one of the Lehner motors/Reisenhaur(sp?) systems.
 Do you have some real money to spend on a system that works?
I am posting on Ezone , see what feedback I will get,

Eric


Re: [RCSE] New Member

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Stone
Welcome Harold.  Glad to have you !

Jon


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Subject: [RCSE] New Member


> Hi guys
>
> I just signed on to the board and wanted to say Hi.
>
>
> Harold from Huntsville Soaring Club.
>
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[RCSE] Re: Electric Tug

2003-09-22 Thread Adam Till
Hi all,

We're actually doing a project on that very subject right now for LiftZone.com, execpt 
the goal is to tow 4 and 5m sailplanes (look for the article in the coming months).

Phase one has been to use a Senior Telemaster with a big Aveox drive system on 30 
cells, and that has more than enough power to tow my friend's 4.2m ASK-21 off of long 
grass. The problem that we've been having so far is putting 2.5
horsepower through a belt without it delaminating, though even that problem should be 
solved quickly.

Check out the following links for videos, or see the Scale Sailplanes forum on 
RCGroups.com

Here's an email I sent to our club list. We tried again this weekend, only to have the 
belt blow up...damaging the tug in the ensuing off-field forced landing. Joy! Now it's 
my turn to spend the week repairing...

"Had our first successful tow with the tug/sailplane combo, and one that
went horribly wrong. Just as a reminder, the tug is a Hobby Lobby Senior
Telemaster (about 10.5-11  lbs), and the sailplane is a Rodellmodel
ASK-21 (4.2m, 12lbs?).

The first one was fine, with the combo coming off after a 100ft rollout
or so. This actually works very well! The climbout was strong, but it
was hard to keep the tug from climbing too strongly and slowing the
sailplane down too much. We got to about 300 ft when the sailplane
released, because I ran out of down elevator on the tug (needs some trim
work).

Video here: http://www.soarcalgary.com/Multimedia/Tow1

The second tow didn't go so well. After retrimming the tug a bit, it
started off well.

Video here: http://www.soarcalgary.com/Multimedia/Tow2

After the first leg however, the tug and sailplane got a little
uncoordinated and ended up putting a bunch of slack in the line. As the
slack came out, the tug got yanked almost to a standstill, but the
sailplane got thrown in a violent flat spin. Since we were only about
150 feet up, the sailplane wasn't able to recover completely in time to
avoid damage. The wingrod was rather severly bent (1" steel tube!), and
the tail needs some 'glasswork patching. The tug landed without
incident.

The ugly: http://www.soarcalgary.com/Multimedia/BadTow

That was it for the day, obviously, but we'll be out again next weekend
if weather and repairs permit."

Cheers,
Adam

> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:57:34 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Electric tow plane

> > Is it possible to tow 3 meter scale gliders into the air by electric
> > powered planes ? What kind of motors will be required ?
> >
>   I have been pondering on the same subject, except I want to tow larger
> gliders also.

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[RCSE] airfoils in AutoCAD

2003-09-22 Thread Oleg Golovidov
This has been covered before I am sure but I could not find anything in the 
archives...
I am trying to learn Autocad basics and the obvious problem is how does one plot 
airfoils? More precisely, how can I import a file with airfoil coordinates and 
use it with the SPLINE command?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Oleg.

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Re: [RCSE] Which company Sells the Sharon Pro 3.7 in the US?

2003-09-22 Thread Mike Remus



Expect VERY Slow service and delivery!  John Luetkie ( 
the new US dealer) is a great guy, he flew with us a few years back, but he 
seems unsupported by HKM.  Over two weeks ago I requested price and 
availability on a Sharon fuse and wing center panel.  Several e-mails 
later, still no answers to any question.
 
One would think these questions would be easy ones, even if the parts were 
expensive and required lengthy delivery times an answer should be quick. 
Just my opinion!
 
Mike Remus
 
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:01:12 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Now that EMM no longer distributes HKM, 
  anyone know of another source for the Sharon Pro 3.7 in the US?Richard 
  C. Jones
   Mike RemusV.P. LOFT Glider ClubFort 
Wayne INLSF 4 (almost 5 )


[RCSE] Tower replaced my BOT ARF

2003-09-22 Thread Steve Gibson



Tower received my defective BOT ARF on 9/15 ( Bad 
Spar).  I got home today and there is was a new BOT ARF complete kit at my 
doorstep.
 
I don't know if this wing is constructed 
differently from the original.  I may peel back the covering to 
see.
  
Has anybody checked a replacement of this kit 
yet?
 
If it is the same as the original. I will beef it 
up and add spoilers.
S Gibson


RE: [RCSE] airfoils in AutoCAD

2003-09-22 Thread Oleg Golovidov
Thanks to all who replied!
It sounds like it is easier than I expected. A whole series of coordinates can 
be pasted from a text file right into the command window with the SPLINE 
command. No need to paste them one by one!
Oleg.

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[RCSE] Radio Suggestions and why?

2003-09-22 Thread Jared
I'm looking for a decent radio for sailplanes.  Currently I have a
Futaba 6XAS and it has served me fairly well.  It's limited, but for the
most part it gets the job done.  Currently I fly a 4 servo Lucia and a 6
servo Spirit Elite, but in the future I would like to get a more "full
house" sailplane and still be able to use the radio with all of the
models.  

I have been looking at the JR8103 and the Futaba 9C.  Most of the guys
that I fly with fly the JR so I realize programming would be made easier
(having a vast pool of knowledge always does help out.)

Currently the list of features that I (think I) need is:
Flaps or Crow
Reflex
Camber
Flaps -> Aileron Mixing
Aileron -> Flap Mixing
Aileron -> Rudder mixing
Launch Presets

And probably some others.  Both of the radios will do these with no
problems.  Both offer digital trims.  

So in your opinion which radio is better suited to sailplanes?  Are they
both essentially the same thing just wrapped in different packages or
does one truly offer something that the other doesn't?

I'll be looking forward to your input. 

If you have another suggestion for a TX in about the same price range
please feel free to let me know, I'm open for suggestions.

Jared
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RE: [RCSE] Bozo has landed...

2003-09-22 Thread JMiller
Bozo, and the X-Baglady,
  You mean very little or no more roaming?  I can't even imagine that!!!  If
the Bozo has a shop to build, will the x-Baglady again sew??  Of course
under a different name.  Al might get upset.


Jerry Miller
SOSS-Medford, OR

-Original Message-
From: Phil Townsend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:13 PM
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Subject: [RCSE] Bozo has landed...


We have done it...Christine and I have settled down and bought a new
house. No more aimless wandering about the country lookin for something
or somewhere. We have been in New Mexico for about a year and it doesnt
suck.
Bozo is with shop once again.

And you know, I get the plane I deserve.


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[RCSE] Re: Electric Tug

2003-09-22 Thread Dieter @ ShredAir


The problem that we've been having so far is putting 2.5
horsepower through a belt without it delaminating, though even that 
problem should be solved quickly.
For the record, getting 2.5 HP continuous is no problem with the 
Reisenauer 6:1 Motor Chief gearbox and a 22-sized Lehner motor. 
Please feel free to contact me for more details.

Dieter Mahlein
http://shredair.com
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Re: [RCSE] Which company Sells the Sharon Pro 3.7 in the US?

2003-09-22 Thread Bill Malvey
On 9/23/03 14:39, "Mike Remus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Expect VERY Slow service and delivery!  John Luetkie ( the new US dealer) is a
> great guy, he flew with us a few years back, but he seems unsupported by HKM.
> Over two weeks ago I requested price and availability on a Sharon fuse and
> wing center panel.  Several e-mails later, still no answers to any question.
  
 
How odd. I have been in contact with him on a regular basis regarding some
scale models.  He has been prompt and informative regarding my inquires.

 I am not certain that I would draw the conclusion that he is unsupported by
HKM just because he did not get back to you ASAP. I know he flies for a
living and sometimes may have to work around his work schedule.

~~~
Bill Malvey

 


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[RCSE] Re: Multiplex Cockpit MM

2003-09-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 12:58 PM 9/22/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
>On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Chuck Anderson wrote: 
>
>I have owned a Cockpit MM for over a year and 
>consider it to be the best transmitter I have for Nostalgia and RES 
>models. I especially like the light weight, feel and balance. I have 
>owned Futaba, Airtronics, and Hitec transmitters over the last few years 
>and think it is superior to all. If it only would do crow, I would sell 
>all my other transmittters. As it is, I am retaining a Hitec Eclipse 
>for my full house sailplanes. If the EVO turns out to be as good as it 
>looks from the specs, I may be able to sell the Eclipse and be a Multiplex 
>only flyer. The only other problem I have with the Cockpit is that I can't 
>use my Sirius Super Test battery tester since it can only test 4,5, and 
>8 cell battery packs and the Cockpit uses a 6 cell pack. 
>
>Chuck Anderson 
>
>Hi Chuck,
>
>I saw your comments in RCSE on the Cockpit MM and wondered if you could
answer 
>some questions for me.  
>
>What receivers (and servos) are you using with it?
>What do you use for a charging system?
>Did you upgrade your TX battery pack?
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Steve Johnson

I use the Multiplex IPD receiver, however my favorite is the Hitec Supreme
Super Slim for JR and other positive shif transmitters.  I have also used
the FMA Magnum 8 Universal Micro which works with both positive and
negative shift transmitters.  All my Futaba, Hitec, and FMA servos work
with the Cockpit, however I normally use Hitec 225 servos for my RES models
and Voltz for all wing servos.  The Cockpit also works just fine for my
Sailaire but I don't know what servos are in that one.  Standard Futaba I
think but it's been so long that I don't remember.

I charge my Cockpit and Evo transmitters with an original Sirius
Electronics Smart Charge Pro that I picked up at Visalia in 1996.  All I
had to do was get a Multiplex adaptor from George George at Peak Eletronics
although I understand that any charger for 8 cell packs can be used if you
can find an adaptor to match the Cockpit charging socket.  If you don't
already have a Sirius Charge (current name), then I highly recommend that
you get one. I plan to replace my Sirius Super Test battery tester with a
new one that will test 6 cell packs. 

I have not upgraded the battery pack in my Cockpit but then I seldom fly
more than 5 or 6 flights a day for no more than 15 minutes each.  Just
circling in a boomer is boaring, however I will stay with a weak thermal at
low altitude for as long as I can.  My Evo came with a 1600 mah battery but
I don't know if the current Cockpit transmitter battery has been upgraded.

I liked the Cockpit so much that I placed my order for an Evo as soon as
Karlton announced that he was taking orders.  It took a long time but was
worth the wait.  Now I am a Multiplex only flyer.  My only disappointment
was that the Evo is larger than the Cokcpit.  The Evo manual also leaves
something to be desired, however I find the Evo very easy to program once I
decipher the manual.  The Evo is much easier to program than any of my
Hitec and Futaba transmitters.

Chuck Anderson
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[RCSE] Davey Retriever

2003-09-22 Thread Brad



If anyone has pics of the Davey Retriever could you 
please email me some examples. I am considering purchasing one.
 
Brad Frondorf
DBSF - Reading, Pa


[RCSE] Great Supplier & Great Service

2003-09-22 Thread Dan
 I ordered 5 servos last Thursday via the Internet.  Checked my mailbox
today, wala - servos arrived. 

>From Kansas on Thursday to So. Cal. on Monday.  Great service and free
shipping :~) 

Thanks ServoCity
http://br.i1.yimg.com/br.yimg.com/i/br/ads2/1306aarp_games.gif

Dan

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