Re: [RCSE] New Member
Hi Harold.Welcome..Brian Smith From: "saundershm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] New Member Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:00:57 - Hi guys I just signed on to the board and wanted to say Hi. Harold from Huntsville Soaring Club. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LISF Man-on-man contest
We weren't sure we would get to fly. Hurricane Isabel had just raced through Pensyllvania and upstate New York, and Windcast was forecasting high winds for Long Island. In spite of the forecast 8 CRRCers drove to Long Island for the contest: Fritz Bien, John Nilsson, Dave Walter, Bruce Schneider, Jan Kansky, Mark Drela, our remote member - Jose Bruzual, and Anker Berg-Sonne. Miner Crary was registered but we didn't see him. Saturday morning was calm and sunny, and as the day progressed it stayed calm with light breezes from the East and temperatures in the 80's with high humidity. The thermal conditions were quite poor with weak thermals spread far apart. A far cry from the forecast. The contest format was man-on-man with experts flying against experts and sportsmen flying against sportsmen. Landings wre graduated tape landings, but just 5 feet long with 10 points per foot. Winch lines were short, just 500 feet, with 250 lbs line to minimize line breaks. I don't think there was a single line break all weekend! CD John Hauff was tough as usual and gave everyone, also sportsmen, one popoff per day, and also one line break per day! The tasks were a 5 minute task, then 6 rounds of 8 minute tasks and finally a 15 minute task to separate the boys from the men. Because of the poor thermal conditions the scores got spread out quickly. Team CRRC didn't have any equipment problems at all, a rare ocurrence. The contest also ran incredibly smoothly with no hangups, a relief, because the spring LIST contest had been plagued by frequent line breaks. The only major excitement was George Hill, who flew the wrong plane and crashed his new Aegea Mantis in the woods. Using my hand bearing compass he was able to find and retrieve it. The wing tips were pretty badly damaged. Terry Luckenbach also ended up in the woods. He usually manages to come back from flying far out and low, but this time he got caught. His plane was unscathed. At the end of the day our sportsmen had done really well. Bruce Schneider was in second place, Mark Drela in third, and Jose in fourth. Luis Bustamante took first. The CRRC experts fared less well. Fritz ended up in fifth place, I in sixth, Dave Walter in eigth, and John Nilsson in 12th. John was flying his new Aegea Mantis for the first time in a contest and was extremely pleased with it. John's old center panel was on Jose's Mantis. The forecast for Sunday was for light breezes out of the East again. It became very variable with light breezes shifting all around the compass, usually pointing straight at the thermals, which were big and almost continually present. There wasn't a cloud in the sky all day and the air was crisp and dry. It simply doesn't get better. To make it something other than a landing contest, CD Paul Bell called for 10 minute rounds after an initial 5 minute tune-up round. The 10 minute rounds didn't make a big difference, and it ended up being a landing contest. As far as excitement goes, we had more. On my first launch I fluttered my ailerons on the zoom, and found that both aileron servos had stripped after landing. Fortunately they worked well enough that I could complete the flight and get my time. When I switched to my backup wing I omitted to change models on my transmitter in the rush and stripped a flap servo when it jammed against the stop. I flew with the stripped servo the rest of the day and had my backup ship all assembled in case the primary rig became unflyable. During one of my flights I heard a bang followed by a huge crash from the launching area. It turned out to be Fritz who had thrown his plane into the back of his head. After impacting the plane got pulled straight into the ground by the winch line. In spite of the violence of the crash his wing is repairable, but his fuse was broken in two places. George Hill managed to fly the wrong plane again and crashed his backup moldie far into the woods. My hand bearing compass led him to it again and it was pretty badly mangled. At the end of the day he bought Hand Wiedekehr's Aegea Mantis. A pretty expensive weekend for him. John Hauff launched once without power to the receiver and servos. Luckily the plane looped until it and the ground hit the same spot. Luckily, the damage was only cosmetic, and John could fly the next round after checking it thoroughly. At the end of the contest team CRRC again had a strong sportsman result. Bruce Schneider in first place, Mark Drela in second and Jose in fifth. Our experts did a bit better. I made second, Dave Walter made fifth, John Nilsson in eigth, Fritz in 11th (one zero round) and Jan Kansky in 12th. What happened, Jan? I have a way of rating contest difficulty. The percentage of contestants that come within 90% of the winner's absolute score will be very high for an "easy" contest, and very low for a "difficult" one. I have seen it range between 2 and 50 percent. Saturday was a 21, which i
Re: [RCSE] Electric tow plane
In a message dated 9/22/2003 9:27:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible to tow 3 meter scale gliders into the air by electric powered planes ? What kind of motors will be required ? I have been pondering on the same subject, except I want to tow larger gliders also. There are numerous tow planes to build (as I would build, not arf) and possibly one of the outrunner motors would be worth looking into. I do know that Dieter at Shredair has mentioned one of the Lehner motors/Reisenhaur(sp?) systems. Do you have some real money to spend on a system that works? I am posting on Ezone , see what feedback I will get, Eric
Re: [RCSE] New Member
Welcome Harold. Glad to have you ! Jon - Original Message - From: "saundershm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: [RCSE] New Member > Hi guys > > I just signed on to the board and wanted to say Hi. > > > Harold from Huntsville Soaring Club. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Electric Tug
Hi all, We're actually doing a project on that very subject right now for LiftZone.com, execpt the goal is to tow 4 and 5m sailplanes (look for the article in the coming months). Phase one has been to use a Senior Telemaster with a big Aveox drive system on 30 cells, and that has more than enough power to tow my friend's 4.2m ASK-21 off of long grass. The problem that we've been having so far is putting 2.5 horsepower through a belt without it delaminating, though even that problem should be solved quickly. Check out the following links for videos, or see the Scale Sailplanes forum on RCGroups.com Here's an email I sent to our club list. We tried again this weekend, only to have the belt blow up...damaging the tug in the ensuing off-field forced landing. Joy! Now it's my turn to spend the week repairing... "Had our first successful tow with the tug/sailplane combo, and one that went horribly wrong. Just as a reminder, the tug is a Hobby Lobby Senior Telemaster (about 10.5-11 lbs), and the sailplane is a Rodellmodel ASK-21 (4.2m, 12lbs?). The first one was fine, with the combo coming off after a 100ft rollout or so. This actually works very well! The climbout was strong, but it was hard to keep the tug from climbing too strongly and slowing the sailplane down too much. We got to about 300 ft when the sailplane released, because I ran out of down elevator on the tug (needs some trim work). Video here: http://www.soarcalgary.com/Multimedia/Tow1 The second tow didn't go so well. After retrimming the tug a bit, it started off well. Video here: http://www.soarcalgary.com/Multimedia/Tow2 After the first leg however, the tug and sailplane got a little uncoordinated and ended up putting a bunch of slack in the line. As the slack came out, the tug got yanked almost to a standstill, but the sailplane got thrown in a violent flat spin. Since we were only about 150 feet up, the sailplane wasn't able to recover completely in time to avoid damage. The wingrod was rather severly bent (1" steel tube!), and the tail needs some 'glasswork patching. The tug landed without incident. The ugly: http://www.soarcalgary.com/Multimedia/BadTow That was it for the day, obviously, but we'll be out again next weekend if weather and repairs permit." Cheers, Adam > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:57:34 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Electric tow plane > > Is it possible to tow 3 meter scale gliders into the air by electric > > powered planes ? What kind of motors will be required ? > > > I have been pondering on the same subject, except I want to tow larger > gliders also. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] airfoils in AutoCAD
This has been covered before I am sure but I could not find anything in the archives... I am trying to learn Autocad basics and the obvious problem is how does one plot airfoils? More precisely, how can I import a file with airfoil coordinates and use it with the SPLINE command? Thanks in advance for any help! Oleg. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Which company Sells the Sharon Pro 3.7 in the US?
Expect VERY Slow service and delivery! John Luetkie ( the new US dealer) is a great guy, he flew with us a few years back, but he seems unsupported by HKM. Over two weeks ago I requested price and availability on a Sharon fuse and wing center panel. Several e-mails later, still no answers to any question. One would think these questions would be easy ones, even if the parts were expensive and required lengthy delivery times an answer should be quick. Just my opinion! Mike Remus On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 11:01:12 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that EMM no longer distributes HKM, anyone know of another source for the Sharon Pro 3.7 in the US?Richard C. Jones Mike RemusV.P. LOFT Glider ClubFort Wayne INLSF 4 (almost 5 )
[RCSE] Tower replaced my BOT ARF
Tower received my defective BOT ARF on 9/15 ( Bad Spar). I got home today and there is was a new BOT ARF complete kit at my doorstep. I don't know if this wing is constructed differently from the original. I may peel back the covering to see. Has anybody checked a replacement of this kit yet? If it is the same as the original. I will beef it up and add spoilers. S Gibson
RE: [RCSE] airfoils in AutoCAD
Thanks to all who replied! It sounds like it is easier than I expected. A whole series of coordinates can be pasted from a text file right into the command window with the SPLINE command. No need to paste them one by one! Oleg. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Radio Suggestions and why?
I'm looking for a decent radio for sailplanes. Currently I have a Futaba 6XAS and it has served me fairly well. It's limited, but for the most part it gets the job done. Currently I fly a 4 servo Lucia and a 6 servo Spirit Elite, but in the future I would like to get a more "full house" sailplane and still be able to use the radio with all of the models. I have been looking at the JR8103 and the Futaba 9C. Most of the guys that I fly with fly the JR so I realize programming would be made easier (having a vast pool of knowledge always does help out.) Currently the list of features that I (think I) need is: Flaps or Crow Reflex Camber Flaps -> Aileron Mixing Aileron -> Flap Mixing Aileron -> Rudder mixing Launch Presets And probably some others. Both of the radios will do these with no problems. Both offer digital trims. So in your opinion which radio is better suited to sailplanes? Are they both essentially the same thing just wrapped in different packages or does one truly offer something that the other doesn't? I'll be looking forward to your input. If you have another suggestion for a TX in about the same price range please feel free to let me know, I'm open for suggestions. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Bozo has landed...
Bozo, and the X-Baglady, You mean very little or no more roaming? I can't even imagine that!!! If the Bozo has a shop to build, will the x-Baglady again sew?? Of course under a different name. Al might get upset. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Phil Townsend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Bozo has landed... We have done it...Christine and I have settled down and bought a new house. No more aimless wandering about the country lookin for something or somewhere. We have been in New Mexico for about a year and it doesnt suck. Bozo is with shop once again. And you know, I get the plane I deserve. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Electric Tug
The problem that we've been having so far is putting 2.5 horsepower through a belt without it delaminating, though even that problem should be solved quickly. For the record, getting 2.5 HP continuous is no problem with the Reisenauer 6:1 Motor Chief gearbox and a 22-sized Lehner motor. Please feel free to contact me for more details. Dieter Mahlein http://shredair.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Which company Sells the Sharon Pro 3.7 in the US?
On 9/23/03 14:39, "Mike Remus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Expect VERY Slow service and delivery! John Luetkie ( the new US dealer) is a > great guy, he flew with us a few years back, but he seems unsupported by HKM. > Over two weeks ago I requested price and availability on a Sharon fuse and > wing center panel. Several e-mails later, still no answers to any question. How odd. I have been in contact with him on a regular basis regarding some scale models. He has been prompt and informative regarding my inquires. I am not certain that I would draw the conclusion that he is unsupported by HKM just because he did not get back to you ASAP. I know he flies for a living and sometimes may have to work around his work schedule. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Multiplex Cockpit MM
At 12:58 PM 9/22/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Chuck Anderson wrote: > >I have owned a Cockpit MM for over a year and >consider it to be the best transmitter I have for Nostalgia and RES >models. I especially like the light weight, feel and balance. I have >owned Futaba, Airtronics, and Hitec transmitters over the last few years >and think it is superior to all. If it only would do crow, I would sell >all my other transmittters. As it is, I am retaining a Hitec Eclipse >for my full house sailplanes. If the EVO turns out to be as good as it >looks from the specs, I may be able to sell the Eclipse and be a Multiplex >only flyer. The only other problem I have with the Cockpit is that I can't >use my Sirius Super Test battery tester since it can only test 4,5, and >8 cell battery packs and the Cockpit uses a 6 cell pack. > >Chuck Anderson > >Hi Chuck, > >I saw your comments in RCSE on the Cockpit MM and wondered if you could answer >some questions for me. > >What receivers (and servos) are you using with it? >What do you use for a charging system? >Did you upgrade your TX battery pack? > >Thanks for your help, > >Steve Johnson I use the Multiplex IPD receiver, however my favorite is the Hitec Supreme Super Slim for JR and other positive shif transmitters. I have also used the FMA Magnum 8 Universal Micro which works with both positive and negative shift transmitters. All my Futaba, Hitec, and FMA servos work with the Cockpit, however I normally use Hitec 225 servos for my RES models and Voltz for all wing servos. The Cockpit also works just fine for my Sailaire but I don't know what servos are in that one. Standard Futaba I think but it's been so long that I don't remember. I charge my Cockpit and Evo transmitters with an original Sirius Electronics Smart Charge Pro that I picked up at Visalia in 1996. All I had to do was get a Multiplex adaptor from George George at Peak Eletronics although I understand that any charger for 8 cell packs can be used if you can find an adaptor to match the Cockpit charging socket. If you don't already have a Sirius Charge (current name), then I highly recommend that you get one. I plan to replace my Sirius Super Test battery tester with a new one that will test 6 cell packs. I have not upgraded the battery pack in my Cockpit but then I seldom fly more than 5 or 6 flights a day for no more than 15 minutes each. Just circling in a boomer is boaring, however I will stay with a weak thermal at low altitude for as long as I can. My Evo came with a 1600 mah battery but I don't know if the current Cockpit transmitter battery has been upgraded. I liked the Cockpit so much that I placed my order for an Evo as soon as Karlton announced that he was taking orders. It took a long time but was worth the wait. Now I am a Multiplex only flyer. My only disappointment was that the Evo is larger than the Cokcpit. The Evo manual also leaves something to be desired, however I find the Evo very easy to program once I decipher the manual. The Evo is much easier to program than any of my Hitec and Futaba transmitters. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Davey Retriever
If anyone has pics of the Davey Retriever could you please email me some examples. I am considering purchasing one. Brad Frondorf DBSF - Reading, Pa
[RCSE] Great Supplier & Great Service
I ordered 5 servos last Thursday via the Internet. Checked my mailbox today, wala - servos arrived. >From Kansas on Thursday to So. Cal. on Monday. Great service and free shipping :~) Thanks ServoCity http://br.i1.yimg.com/br.yimg.com/i/br/ads2/1306aarp_games.gif Dan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.