Re: [RCSE] Sleger Sailplanes?
Nope. He closed up shop a couple years ago. Jim Prouty wrote: Hi All, Are the Sleger line of sailplanes still available? Been out of soaring for a while and can't seem to find any of his planes on the net. Thanks, Jim Prouty www.jtmodels.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Since you are talking about Sleger
Im updating a Sleger wood winged Condor for a club member that recently purchased it and do any of you have in your notes a good starting CG location? TIA for your info. BCNU Bruce Hobbs Austin, TX.
[RCSE] Re: California Foam -Home Depot?
Lowes and Home depot in SOCal require the buyer to purchase a minimum of 500 sheets before they will fill one order. Rick -- Schwemmer Schwemmer's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=21214 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=307125 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Using cheap hair spray
I've been using cheap hair spray for years. I especially like using it on all my paper pattern. It's best to do this after your patterns have been pasted down to your pattern material. The spraying of the patterns should be done before cutting your patterns. The spray really helps protects your patterns long after they have been pasted up. One another thing, be sure to write all your notes on your patterns before spraying them. I suggest using two to three very light coats of spray making sure each coat has thoroughly dried before applying the following coat, and then lightly kiss your patterns with 600 sand paper. This will assure you'll have great patterns than will last! Krs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:34 AM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Question for Modelers Familiar w/Shellac Jim - I haven't used shellac to do this, but I have achieved some pretty light finishes. I use hair spray for the initial coats. Get the cheapest large aerosal cans you can find. Fog a few sparse coats on, sanding very lightly with 400 grit between coats. You only need to knock down the stickups. If you keep the initial coats light and let them dry well you won't hurt a foam wing, and the weight buildup will be minimal. After you get the wood sealed with hairspray go ahead with the waterborn poly. I like to wipe it on with an old t shirt or a foam brush, keeping the coats thin and many. happy trails - Roob Glover As a woodworker I haven=B9t used but read about shellac as the sealer/under coat for wood finishes. Shellac is accepted as a good barrier against wate= r vapor, but not liquid water, and any finish will stick to it well. So I thought it might be a very good under or only coat for balsa tail parts on HLG=B9s etc. Don Stackhouse of DJ Aerotech describes the use of water born (not a solvent in this case) polyurethane and that care must be taken to ge= t a very thin first later coats. One reason for that would be the fact tha= t wood so readily absorbs water then changing it=B9s dimensions due to swelling of the wood fibers. Don's main goal seems to be to limit weight added though. Have any of you tried shellac, which uses alcohol as its solvent? I am wondering if a 3 pound cut, for example, would penetrate less than a 1 poun= d cut. [Shellac is mixed as x pounds of flakes to 1 gallon of alcohol. N.B. you must use de-waxed shellac if you intend to over coat it with any other finish.] --=20 Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Question for Modelers Familiar w/Shellac
FWIW - Hairspray is Shellac :) -Mike -- FlyByMike FlyByMike's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=7172 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=307693 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Futaba 9CAP for sale
Hi SWSA members I am selling one of my Futaba 9CAP radio. It comes with the following This is the airplane and sailplane version. It comes with the following: 9CAP radio -- can be FM, PPM and PCM Channel module (your choice of 38 or 41) Campac to give you total of 14 model memory antenna battery pack overnight charger manual and the original box asking $250.00 Just to be fair to everyone. 1st person interested and responds to the email get it thanks John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Inexpensive Hotliner?
Hi All, Sorry for the delay in replying. Up to my ()*$# in alligators! In answer to the following questions: 1. What's your budget? I'd like to keep the whole thing under $500 but also want a setup that will last. Prefer all composite over wood since I hope to take the plane on the road when I travel. I'll have the wife make up a holtiner pack to carry it in. Would also prefer a 2 piece wing. 2. What type of flying are you going to do, all aerobatics, all thermalling or a mixture? I'd like to fly a mixture of aerobatics and some thermalling with a plane. I have plenty of power planes so I can get my aerobatic fix with them or on the slope. 3. What type of batteries are you going to be using? I'll use whatever's best for the plane that I choose. I have all different kinds of batteries and a Microlader charger that can reliably charge any kind of battery. 4. What type of area will you be flying in? Pretty much wide open spaces. The smallest space I would fly in would probably be the size of a soccer field. Again, thanks for all of your comments. Much appreciated. Happy flying, Jim Prouty www.jtmodels.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fut 14MZ - Same old revolutionary Multiplex ideas
Bill Malvey wote: Not to pick on you, Bill, but many of these features on the upcoming Fut 14MZ are just re-inventing the wheel. It also allows up to 14 servos to be plugged into the RX and then to be independently adjusted for centering and end points. Plus you can tell the RX that the servos on channels 1 and 2 are the left aileron, 3 4 are the right aileron, 5 6 are the spoilers, 6 7 are the flaps (thinking scale glider here) and so on. This has been a standard feature of Multiplex for years now. It also ahs a synthesized frequency module. You select your channel on the TX and when you power up it tells the RX what channel it is on. Can you say, EVO? Oops, the EVO also has a Scanner module it tells you if the selected channel is in use. As you noted the switches are moveable and anything can be assigned to any switch, lever, slider, or stick (much like the 9Z can now). Ah, Multiplex again... another standard feature for years now. Add to that the fact that the 14MZ is 2048 PCM and you are getting some incredible resolution as well. Every MPX channel is full resolution. On the EVO and on the Profi every channel is full resolution and in PPM mode, nonetheless (unlike some other brands which required a brand-specific PCM receiver in order to get a binary ON/OFF 9th channel.) Frankly for normal TD stuff it is likely super overkill. However, for giant scale sailplanes and the 35% to 45% aerobatic planes, it is going to be simply killer. I think that it is great that Futuba is raising the bar. Perhaps this will convince other brands to be more innovative in their designs. I think that the CF module is a good call, but then again... SD format seems to be getting more popular now. Will the CF module go the way of the dinosaurs eventually before the life of the 14MZ is up? I'm not so sure about the music and the big color screen being of value for RC... who needs a fancy screen while flying? Shouldn't you be watching your plane instead? The three hours of battery charge on the 14MZ lithium is a joke. The EVO gives 8 hours of synth RF using simple 1500 NiMh and 9 hours using the crystal module Neat radio, though. Lots of chrome and bling bling, but many of its improvements have been available through Multiplex for many years now. Joedy Drulia Shenandoah Valley, Virginia author, Multiplex EVO Tutorial www.multiplexusa.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] 14MZ
OK, made a mistake. The 10X is $800 TX only. 9Z is $800 TX only. Make both around $1000 with a good RX. 14MZ around $2200 TX+RX, so about twice the price. People will have to decide if it is worth it for them or not. Thanks John D for keeping me honest!! ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] For Sale, JR 347 with extras
This is sitting and not being used. I need money to give my SO something for Christmas so it has to go. I am willing to split things up, just email me an offer on what you want. X347 transmitter PCM RF module model NET-J50P with crystals for channels 2,4, and 6 RF module model NET-J53M on 53.3 JR receiver NER-327x (Century 7 series) with crystal for 53.3 Deluxe switch harness DSC cord JR wall wart charger model NEC-221 Charge cords with banana plugs for fast chargers or cyclers Receiver batt, 4 cell Sanyo N-700AAC Original factory instruction manual For $150 to my paypal account I will throw in my, Guide to Computer Radio Control Systems by Edberg. Thanks michael N6CHV AMA 77292 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re:Fut 14MZ - Same old revolutionary Multiplex ideas
Well stated Joedy !!! The very thought of letting Bill Gates' grubbies anywhere near an R/C Tx firmware fills me with extreme fear !! I'll stick to my Multiplex 3030, my Mac and my Audi - LOL :-) Cheers Neil ___ Neil D. Gillies Tel: +44 (0)1383-823489 iGull Technologies Mobile: +44 (0)771-4330793 11 River View [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dalgety Bay, Fife http://www.igull.co.uk Scotland KY11 9YE http://www.sea-gull.demon.co.uk RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Inexpensive Hotliner?
I dabbled in the entry-level hotline game for a brief time. I was flying a Hobby Lobby Jerry for a while. With a Aveox F10LMR, running 7 or 10 cells, it was a blast to fly. Not too hot, but still plenty of climb performance when propped for about 50 amps. As it turns out, I'm trying to sell my Jerry... - Model: Hobby Lobby Jerry (Electric Glider) Controls: aileron/elevator Wingspan: 81.5 Length: 43 Weight: 2 lb 2 oz (w/ 3x Hitec HS-81 servos, no power system) Photo - http://home.earthlink.net/~sat-chaser/ForSale/Jerry.JPG Hobby Lobby sells the Jerry for $229. Asking $120 - Model is good entry-level hotliner if flown with a high power brushless power system - Model does NOT include motor/ESC/prop/batteries - Fuselage has been repaired at wing saddle/fin - Includes carbon fiber wing joiner - Removable wings/tail for easy transport in original box - Please email me if you are interested. Steve -Original Message- From: Jim Prouty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:25 AM To: Jay Hunter Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Inexpensive Hotliner? Hi All, Sorry for the delay in replying. Up to my ()*$# in alligators! In answer to the following questions: 1. What's your budget? I'd like to keep the whole thing under $500 but also want a setup that will last. Prefer all composite over wood since I hope to take the plane on the road when I travel. I'll have the wife make up a holtiner pack to carry it in. Would also prefer a 2 piece wing. 2. What type of flying are you going to do, all aerobatics, all thermalling or a mixture? I'd like to fly a mixture of aerobatics and some thermalling with a plane. I have plenty of power planes so I can get my aerobatic fix with them or on the slope. 3. What type of batteries are you going to be using? I'll use whatever's best for the plane that I choose. I have all different kinds of batteries and a Microlader charger that can reliably charge any kind of battery. 4. What type of area will you be flying in? Pretty much wide open spaces. The smallest space I would fly in would probably be the size of a soccer field. Again, thanks for all of your comments. Much appreciated. Happy flying, Jim Prouty www.jtmodels.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re:Fut 14MZ - Same old revolutionary Multiplex ideas
That's weird. I'm still running software I wrote in 1988 on Mac OS 6.x on my Mac running OSX today. Mark --- Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Jodey. I'll stick with my Evo, my Dell, and my Corvette. One thing the 14Z has going for it is Steve Jobs didn't have anything to do with the operating system so it won't be obsolete next year. Back in 1988, I vowed to never get shafted by Jobs again. So far, I have kept my vow and can still run all the software I have written since 1988 on my Dell running Windows XP. The Macintosh software I wrote before 1988 had to be revised every time Apple updated the Macintosh operating system. Chuck Anderson At 05:16 PM 12/13/2004, you wrote: Well stated Joedy !!! The very thought of letting Bill Gates' grubbies anywhere near an R/C Tx firmware fills me with extreme fear !! I'll stick to my Multiplex 3030, my Mac and my Audi - LOL :-) Cheers Neil ___ Neil D. Gillies Tel: +44 (0)1383-823489 iGull Technologies Mobile: +44 (0)771-4330793 11 River View [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dalgety Bay, Fife http://www.igull.co.uk Scotland KY11 9YE http://www.sea-gull.demon.co.uk RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FOR SALE
Both he Pivot Plus and JR 347 Transmitter are sold. Still have: Complete NIB Saber fuse kit, w/tail cores and obechi sheeting and all the hardware for $110 Mark Soaring Is Life!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fut 14MZ - Same old revolutionary Multiplex ideas
This radio system is missing something very important - immunity to being shot down by a $50 parkflyer TX that is just around the corner... Model Avionics had the solution, but it was snapped up by Horizon / JR. http://www.spektrumrc.com/ Maybe Futaba wanted to provide a built-in excuse for crashing? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Inexpensive Hotliner?
I have built and flown a LOT of inexpensive hotliners. Great Planes has one out called the siren. Not what I am used to but it seems to be a workable model. Follow my wacky antics and the siren build in this thread on the ezone. The build starts around post #228. Prior to that a lot of doubt as to wether this plane will really fly/be a hotliner... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281738page=5pp=50 Initial thoughts on the siren? Its a LOT better than I expected at this price. -- Jay Hunter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FS001 flyers
I would like to chat a minute with those flying FS001 Sage wings..Thanks..Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FS001 wings
A number of folks are asking if I folded my FS001 wings...No..They are as strong as any I have flown...I'm asking about a problem I'm having with alignment..I have the wings on an Ava fuse and it is simply a wonderful flyerBrian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Sleger Sailplanes?
Hi All, Are the Sleger line of sailplanes still available? Been out of soaring for a while and can't seem to find any of his planes on the net. Thanks, Jim Prouty www.jtmodels.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Wood Crafters 05 entery list as of 12-13-04
Wood Crafters is coming up strong again, must be the CA and balsa dust. Anyone looking for a laid back, fun filled weekend with fellow woody sailplane enthusiasts will be hard pressed to do better than this event. The one entry per ch plus team entry allows the pilots to fly at will. Even the Championship contest, Sat and Sunday, will be open winch with time slots to get your flights accomplished. Thursday and Friday is fun fly, with optional competiton. See the Wood Crafters web page for details. http://www.skybench.com The scale guys fly all four days, non stop, whenever the mood strikes. Launch by aero tow, winch or provide your own hi start. This is laid back fun with all the trimmings, plus a $10 pay at the door Friday night Awards Dinner with a free raffle, guest speaker and awards presentation. I have seven open slots that will likely fill up soon, if you want in, contact me off line. Sign up for Fun Fly only, Thursday and Friday or the Sat and Sunday Championship contest or all four days. Nothing like it and nothing but fun at WC 05 ch 11, open, o,o,o,o, ch 12, Frank Foster, KY, o,x,x,x, ch 13, Gregg Smith, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 14, Tom Broeski, VA, x,x,x,x, ch 15, Jeff Dailey, IN, x,x,x,x, ch 16, Jim Ealy, PA, x,x,x,x, ch 17, Dave Shaw, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 18, John Wolff, OH, o,x,x,x, ch 19, John Moote, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 20, open, o,o,o,o, ch 21, Timothy Wolff, MI, o,x,x,x, ch 22, Jack Smith, IN, x,x,o,o, ch 23, Bruce Herider, OH, x,x,x, ch 24, Ed Franz, KY, x,x,x,x, ch 25, Sanford Seal, IL, x,x,x,x, ch 25, Mark Nankivil, MO, o,o,x,x, ch 26, OC Stewart, IN, x,x,o,o, ch 27, David Mollenkamp, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 28, Steve Staely, OH, x,x,o,o, ch 29, John Walter, IL, x,x,x,x, ch 29, Jeffery Walter, IL, x,x,x,x, ch 30, Open, o,o,o,o, ch 31, Severn Green, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 32, open, o,o,o,o, ch 33, Tom Scully (?), KY, x,x,x,x, ch 34, Ray Holzheuer, IN, o,o,x,x, ch 35, Bill Brenoble, PA, x,x,x,x, ch 36, Jack Womack, TX, x,x,x,x, ch 37, Ken Bates, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 38, Eric Podzielinski, IN, x,x,x,x, ch 38, Brandon Podzielinski, IN x,x,x,x, ch 39, Michael Tetzner, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 40, Gary Bussell, IN, x,x,x,x, ch 41, Bill Suter, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 42, open, x,x,x,x, ch 43, Ed Jett, MS, x,x,x,x, ch 44, Ian Noble, IN, x,x,x,x, ch 45, open, o,o,o,o, ch 46, Mark Miller, WI, x,x,x,x, ch 47, Dick Nadolny, MA, x,x,x,x, ch 47, Dick Pike, NY, x,x,x,x, ch 48, Gordon Pearson, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 49, Richard Alban, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 50, Otto Heithecker, TN, x,x,x,x, ch 51, Denny Hoyle, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 52, Norm Roessing, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 53, Steve Moskal, IL, x,x,x,x, ch 54, Gene Pastori, MI, x,x,x,x, ch 55, open, o,o,o,o, ch 56, Ray Hayes, IN, o,o,o,o, ch 57, Tom Tock, IL, o,x,x,x, ch 58, Don Harris, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 59, Paul Siegel, OH, x,x,x,x, ch 60, Jim Vanderzil, VA, x,x,x,x, ch 60, Max Vanderzil, VA, x,x,x,x, 00, open, o,o,o,o, 01, open, o,o,o,o, 02, Bob Hicks, MI, x,x,x,x, 03, open, o,o,o,o, 04, open, o,o,o,o, 05, Jim Porter, IA, x,x,x,x, 06, open, o,o,o,o, 07, open, o,o,o,o, 08, Pete Carr, o,o,x,x, Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] For Sale, wait and Wail...Electric Hotliner
NSP Sirius hollow molded ship. One piece wing, very light, can handle up to 28 cells but is outfitted with a high performance geared motor, folding carbon prop and is in very excellent condition. With Hitec Slimline 8 RX, four battery packs and speed controller. Likely closer to $1,000 retail, shipped $425. It flys right out of your hand, so no bad habits. Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Re:Fut 14MZ - Same old revolutionary Multiplex ideas
I agree with Jodey. I'll stick with my Evo, my Dell, and my Corvette. One thing the 14Z has going for it is Steve Jobs didn't have anything to do with the operating system so it won't be obsolete next year. Back in 1988, I vowed to never get shafted by Jobs again. So far, I have kept my vow and can still run all the software I have written since 1988 on my Dell running Windows XP. The Macintosh software I wrote before 1988 had to be revised every time Apple updated the Macintosh operating system. Chuck Anderson At 05:16 PM 12/13/2004, you wrote: Well stated Joedy !!! The very thought of letting Bill Gates' grubbies anywhere near an R/C Tx firmware fills me with extreme fear !! I'll stick to my Multiplex 3030, my Mac and my Audi - LOL :-) Cheers Neil ___ Neil D. Gillies Tel: +44 (0)1383-823489 iGull Technologies Mobile: +44 (0)771-4330793 11 River View [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dalgety Bay, Fife http://www.igull.co.uk Scotland KY11 9YE http://www.sea-gull.demon.co.uk RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] FOR SALE
For Sale, Wanted to offer these here first and then to eBay. NIB Dodgson Designs Pivot $125 Complete NIB Saber fuse kit, w/tail cores and obechi sheeting and all the hardware for $110 A JR 347 transmitter in great working order. (its been sitting a bit so the battery will need to be replaced). Make offer!! Can take pictures of any of them on request. Shipping is not included in price. Thermals Mark Soaring Is Life!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
