[RCSE] Soaring Tullahoma
May 3rd and 4th is the Spring soaring event in Tullahoma. Res Unlimited both days with an overall winner for the weekend. MOM Sat and open winch Sunday. CD is Kendall McDonald. 931 455 5779. He is not online. Thanks Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Gas prices...
Ive road with guys with their eyes shut,,, is that ok? Richard - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WDKK [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Gas prices... Car pooling is a lot of fun as long as the driver doesn't snore. Regards, Dave Corven. -- Original message -- From: WDKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rich, I car pooled once.. but every time I stopped for gas and opened the door the water ran out :) Now that right there's funny, I don't care who you are. For real, Great Idea. I did the math and if several guys go together, it increases their chance to get in trouble by a factor of ten. (beers all around he says as his buddy gets a lap dance) Opps, smell a thermal got to go Yours WDKK -- WDKK WDKK's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=130621 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849859 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Tech question for the guys that know
That may be overkill, if the 1/8 was almost strong enough. Assuming that the wall is pretty thick, 1/4 would be 8X as strong and 16X as stiff, if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if the problem is that the rod is not very strong crosswise, so if there's a hint of a sharp edge, maybe it will crunch. A steel tube might be a good compromise, though the yield strength, unless you go pretty high tech, will be maybe half or less that of music wire. Presumably the diameter would make up for that, given the right wall thickness, etc. (I'm assuming you'd use a little piece of 4130 or something from Aircraft Spruce) I wonder if one glued short lengths of brass tubing over the carbon at the appropriate places if that wouldn't help keep local loads from messing it up. Especially if you ground the edges to a taper. Or maybe that's just too much trouble. The 1/4 carbon might weigh 7 grams or so if it was 4 long.. A 1/8 steel rod would weigh about the same for the same length. The carbon would be much stiffer, of course. And if you loaded it carefully, with only smooth edges, a heck of a lot stronger. However, assuming a 24 stab with 100 square inches or so, the 1/8 joiner on the tail would stand up to an airspeed comparable to that of a 1/2 steel rod of the same yield strength on the wing. However, music wire tends to have a really high yield strength. (plus or minus a lot depending on design details) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I have used 1/8 cf rod for stab axles, and had them break. This was on my Yardbird design, 130. I went back to steel rather than try to go to a bigger tube. My latest will use 1/4 cf tube for stab axles. Jack -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Gas prices...
To close for comfort. Regards, Dave. -- Original message -- From: Richard Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ive road with guys with their eyes shut,,, is that ok? Richard - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WDKK [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Gas prices... Car pooling is a lot of fun as long as the driver doesn't snore. Regards, Dave Corven. -- Original message -- From: WDKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rich, I car pooled once.. but every time I stopped for gas and opened the door the water ran out :) Now that right there's funny, I don't care who you are. For real, Great Idea. I did the math and if several guys go together, it increases their chance to get in trouble by a factor of ten. (beers all around he says as his buddy gets a lap dance) Opps, smell a thermal got to go Yours WDKK -- WDKK WDKK's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=130621 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849859 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles
I've seen this topic for years and so decided to see what it would take to break a 1/8 carbon rod with my hands which have considerably higher bending capability than a stab on one side of a vertical. Try it for yourself, try to use your hands to break a 1/8 carbon rod, just past half way along its length. It will be interesting to hear your findings bout how easy or hard it is...and why it might be possible for a stab to put that kind of force on the rod, with out it breaking first. Note I didn't say it was hard, I'm asking you interested parties and suggesters to 'do' something then report. Gordy In a message dated 4/25/2008 9:55:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That may be overkill, if the 1/8 was almost strong enough. Assuming that the wall is pretty thick, 1/4 would be 8X as strong and 16X as stiff, if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if the problem is that the rod is not very strong crosswise, so if there's a hint of a sharp edge, maybe it will crunch. A steel tube might be a good compromise, though the yield strength, unless you go pretty high tech, will be maybe half or less that of music wire. Presumably the diameter would make up for that, given the right wall thickness, etc. (I'm assuming you'd use a little piece of 4130 or something from Aircraft Spruce) I wonder if one glued short lengths of brass tubing over the carbon at the appropriate places if that wouldn't help keep local loads from messing it up. Especially if you ground the edges to a taper. Or maybe that's just too much trouble. The 1/4 carbon might weigh 7 grams or so if it was 4 long.. A 1/8 steel rod would weigh about the same for the same length. The carbon would be much stiffer, of course. And if you loaded it carefully, with only smooth edges, a heck of a lot stronger. However, assuming a 24 stab with 100 square inches or so, the 1/8 joiner on the tail would stand up to an airspeed comparable to that of a 1/2 steel rod of the same yield strength on the wing. However, music wire tends to have a really high yield strength. (plus or minus a lot depending on design details) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I have used 1/8 cf rod for stab axles, and had them break. This was on my Yardbird design, 130. I went back to steel rather than try to go to a bigger tube. My latest will use 1/4 cf tube for stab axles. Jack -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
Re: [RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles
Its not so much how hard it is to break the rod when its in good condition. It's plenty strong. Its knowing when the strength has been compromised with cracking after a few dork landings or an unfortunate vertical arrival. They become very easy to break once they have a crack starting to develop. Each pilot is going to have to decide the issue for himself. For me, if they're not at least 1/4 in diameter I'd rather use steel. The nose weight is not a consideration. I won't use a center wing rod of carbon in any case. Rick At 12:09 PM 4/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this topic for years and so decided to see what it would take to break a 1/8 carbon rod with my hands which have considerably higher bending capability than a stab on one side of a vertical. Try it for yourself, try to use your hands to break a 1/8 carbon rod, just past half way along its length. It will be interesting to hear your findings bout how easy or hard it is...and why it might be possible for a stab to put that kind of force on the rod, with out it breaking first. Note I didn't say it was hard, I'm asking you interested parties and suggesters to 'do' something then report. Gordy In a message dated 4/25/2008 9:55:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That may be overkill, if the 1/8 was almost strong enough. Assuming that the wall is pretty thick, 1/4 would be 8X as strong and 16X as stiff, if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if the problem is that the rod is not very strong crosswise, so if there's a hint of a sharp edge, maybe it will crunch. A steel tube might be a good compromise, though the yield strength, unless you go pretty high tech, will be maybe half or less that of music wire. Presumably the diameter would make up for that, given the right wall thickness, etc. (I'm assuming you'd use a little piece of 4130 or something from Aircraft Spruce) I wonder if one glued short lengths of brass tubing over the carbon at the appropriate places if that wouldn't help keep local loads from messing it up. Especially if you ground the edges to a taper. Or maybe that's just too much trouble. The 1/4 carbon might weigh 7 grams or so if it was 4 long.. A 1/8 steel rod would weigh about the same for the same length. The carbon would be much stiffer, of course. And if you loaded it carefully, with only smooth edges, a heck of a lot stronger. However, assuming a 24 stab with 100 square inches or so, the 1/8 joiner on the tail would stand up to an airspeed comparable to that of a 1/2 steel rod of the same yield strength on the wing. However, music wire tends to have a really high yield strength. (plus or minus a lot depending on design details) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I have used 1/8 cf rod for stab axles, and had them break. This was on my Yardbird design, 130. I went back to steel rather than try to go to a bigger tube. My latest will use 1/4 cf tube for stab axles. Jack -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851AOL Autos.
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RE: [RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles
Unfortunate vertical arrival . AKA DORK? Rick you certainly have a way with words. Kurt From: Rick Eckel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles Its not so much how hard it is to break the rod when its in good condition. It's plenty strong. Its knowing when the strength has been compromised with cracking after a few dork landings or an unfortunate vertical arrival. They become very easy to break once they have a crack starting to develop. Each pilot is going to have to decide the issue for himself. For me, if they're not at least 1/4 in diameter I'd rather use steel. The nose weight is not a consideration. I won't use a center wing rod of carbon in any case. Rick
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[RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles
I have seen even a 1/4 CF joiner fail on the Stab of a Onyx JW. As stated before, the CF has to be protected. The one I seen fail, had marks in it which lead to it's failure. Changes were made to fix that problem. Just have to keep a close eye on CF stuff. Great stuff if it is taken care of. Mike Its not so much how hard it is to break the rod when its in good condition. It's plenty strong. Its knowing when the strength has been compromised with cracking after a few dork landings or an unfortunate vertical arrival. They become very easy to break once they have a crack starting to develop. Each pilot is going to have to decide the issue for himself. For me, if they're not at least 1/4 in diameter I'd rather use steel. The nose weight is not a consideration. I won't use a center wing rod of carbon in any case. Rick At 12:09 PM 4/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this topic for years and so decided to see what it would take to break a 1/8 carbon rod with my hands which have considerably higher bending capability than a stab on one side of a vertical. Try it for yourself, try to use your hands to break a 1/8 carbon rod, just past half way along its length. It will be interesting to hear your findings bout how easy or hard it is...and why it might be possible for a stab to put that kind of force on the rod, with out it breaking first. Note I didn't say it was hard, I'm asking you interested parties and suggesters to 'do' something then report. Gordy In a message dated 4/25/2008 9:55:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That may be overkill, if the 1/8 was almost strong enough. Assuming that the wall is pretty thick, 1/4 would be 8X as strong and 16X as stiff, if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if the problem is that the rod is not very strong crosswise, so if there's a hint of a sharp edge, maybe it will crunch. A steel tube might be a good compromise, though the yield strength, unless you go pretty high tech, will be maybe half or less that of music wire. Presumably the diameter would make up for that, given the right wall thickness, etc. (I'm assuming you'd use a little piece of 4130 or something from Aircraft Spruce) I wonder if one glued short lengths of brass tubing over the carbon at the appropriate places if that wouldn't help keep local loads from messing it up. Especially if you ground the edges to a taper. Or maybe that's just too much trouble. The 1/4 carbon might weigh 7 grams or so if it was 4 long.. A 1/8 steel rod would weigh about the same for the same length. The carbon would be much stiffer, of course. And if you loaded it carefully, with only smooth edges, a heck of a lot stronger. However, assuming a 24 stab with 100 square inches or so, the 1/8 joiner on the tail would stand up to an airspeed comparable to that of a 1/2 steel rod of the same yield strength on the wing. However, music wire tends to have a really high yield strength. (plus or minus a lot depending on design details) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I have used 1/8 cf rod for stab axles, and had them break. This was on my Yardbird design, 130. I went back to steel rather than try to go to a bigger tube. My latest will use 1/4 cf tube for stab axles. Jack RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles
Sure you can't break the rod with you bare hand, because you hands have soft corners. Put the carbon rod into two brass tube and try again. I have seen 1/4 stab rod snap in a 100 glider on landing. The carbon rod rotates in the brass tubing will forma stress point. For big (5/8 or larger) wing joiners, as long as it has a carbon carrier and not brass , it is fine. Brian At 12:09 PM 4/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this topic for years and so decided to see what it would take to break a 1/8 carbon rod with my hands which have considerably higher bending capability than a stab on one side of a vertical. Try it for yourself, try to use your hands to break a 1/8 carbon rod, just past half way along its length. It will be interesting to hear your findings bout how easy or hard it is...and why it might be possible for a stab to put that kind of force on the rod, with out it breaking first. Note I didn't say it was hard, I'm asking you interested parties and suggesters to 'do' something then report. Gordy In a message dated 4/25/2008 9:55:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That may be overkill, if the 1/8 was almost strong enough. Assuming that the wall is pretty thick, 1/4 would be 8X as strong and 16X as stiff, if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if the problem is that the rod is not very strong crosswise, so if there's a hint of a sharp edge, maybe it will crunch. A steel tube might be a good compromise, though the yield strength, unless you go pretty high tech, will be maybe half or less that of music wire. Presumably the diameter would make up for that, given the right wall thickness, etc. (I'm assuming you'd use a little piece of 4130 or something from Aircraft Spruce) I wonder if one glued short lengths of brass tubing over the carbon at the appropriate places if that wouldn't help keep local loads from messing it up. Especially if you ground the edges to a taper. Or maybe that's just too much trouble. The 1/4 carbon might weigh 7 grams or so if it was 4 long.. A 1/8 steel rod would weigh about the same for the same length. The carbon would be much stiffer, of course. And if you loaded it carefully, with only smooth edges, a heck of a lot stronger. However, assuming a 24 stab with 100 square inches or so, the 1/8 joiner on the tail would stand up to an airspeed comparable to that of a 1/2 steel rod of the same yield strength on the wing. However, music wire tends to have a really high yield strength. (plus or minus a lot depending on design details) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I have used 1/8 cf rod for stab axles, and had them break. This was on my Yardbird design, 130. I went back to steel rather than try to go to a bigger tube. My latest will use 1/4 cf tube for stab axles. Jack RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles, following the assignment?
Hi Guys, For some reason you are commenting on whether Carbon Rods are 'good' or 'bad' for using as stab axles, but my thread had nothing to do with that topic, it was about YOU finding out for yourself what kind of force it takes to break a 1/8 carbon rod the length of a stab axle, about at the half way point. Sounds like Brian is going to install some brass tubing over the ends of the carbon rod to add a stress point, more in keeping with using the rod for stab axles...but again, my assignment test is pretty clearly stated if you should accept the assignment. It won't prove that 1/8 carbon rod is good or bad for stab axles but it will give you ..personally a clear idea of the amount of force it takes to snap a 1/8 carbon rod...by the way it might be very little, the only way to find out is to try ityourselfversus talking about it :-). For those of you who are not builders, understand this, carbon splinters are a bitch. So proceed at your own risk. And remember these words, the last words you hear from a guy from KentuckyHey watch this! Gordy Please try to pay more attention in the future to what I write :-) Sure you can't break the rod with you bare hand, because you hands have soft corners. Put the carbon rod into two brass tube and try again. I have seen 1/4 stab rod snap in a 100 glider on landing. The carbon rod rotates in the brass tubing will forma stress point. For big (5/8 or larger) wing joiners, as long as it has a carbon carrier and not brass , it is fine. At 12:09 PM 4/25/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this topic for years and so decided to see what it would take to break a 1/8 carbon rod with my hands which have considerably higher bending capability than a stab on one side of a vertical. Try it for yourself, try to use your hands to break a 1/8 carbon rod, just past half way along its length. It will be interesting to hear your findings bout how easy or hard it is...and why it might be possible for a stab to put that kind of force on the rod, with out it breaking first. Note I didn't say it was hard, I'm asking you interested parties and suggesters to 'do' something then report. Gordy **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
[RCSE] JR 9303 Software Version
I just purchased 2 JR 9303s, one new, one used. How do I tell what version of software is in them? It doesn't seem to tell on power up like I've seen on other mfgs units. I understand there was at least one upgrade from the early 9303s. Thanks, John in Denver
Re: [RCSE] YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles, following the assignme...
I had to put a carbon rod into service as a stab axle once. All I had was one of insufficient diameter. Luckily, I had a piece of brass tubing that it fit into perfectly, and the brass tube fit perfectly into the carriers in the stabs. I thought this was a perfect marriage of the stiffness of the carbon and the pliable durability of the brass. The brass tube kept the carbon from bending and the brass tube kept the carbon from getting nicked and precluded the eventuality of it breaking. I've probably exposed myself to the risk of being called an idiot by the ravaging hordes of engineers that patrol RCSE, armed as they are with equations and wielding calculators, and I am probably guilty of that, but I can say that I have lived to tell the tale. Bill Wingstedt **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
[RCSE] what tape for Ava tips so they don't peel?
Have been flying the Ava some more. What kind of tape do people use on the tips so that the edge of the covering doesn't peel up? I've been having that problem. Or perhaps I should run a bit of thin CA to seal the edges?? BTW, I saw that video of the guy launching his Ava like a DLG. It's really more like a hammer throw, as the idea is to use a loop of line from your hand to the tow hook and just hold the tip in place. Anyway, I tried it and it works fine, but it didn't somehow feel right so I didn't put any power in it. Got maybe 30 or 40 feet anyway. Suspect over 100 is possible if you pull out the stops. No wobbles or anything. Even tho my cg is quite conservative, however, it doesn't pull up much. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] what tape for Ava tips so they don't peel?
What you do is put one layer of tape on each panel before you put them together . Be careful to not tape the spoiler down :-) That way when you put the wing tips on you are taping to the existing tape and it doesn't pull the covering off... Been doing it like this for 3 years with no problems... Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have been flying the Ava some more. What kind of tape do people use on the tips so that the edge of the covering doesn't peel up? I've been having that problem. Or perhaps I should run a bit of thin CA to seal the edges?? BTW, I saw that video of the guy launching his Ava like a DLG. It's really more like a hammer throw, as the idea is to use a loop of line from your hand to the tow hook and just hold the tip in place. Anyway, I tried it and it works fine, but it didn't somehow feel right so I didn't put any power in it. Got maybe 30 or 40 feet anyway. Suspect over 100 is possible if you pull out the stops. No wobbles or anything. Even tho my cg is quite conservative, however, it doesn't pull up much. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] what tape for Ava tips so they don't peel?
Jim, I have been using the crystal clear tape for the under layer and the upper or hold together layer, on everything, painted or moneycoated surfaces alike. On painted surfaces it does not pull up paint. The covering on AVA's is Oracover, which is sold here in the States as Hanger Nine Lite, I think. Regards, Dave Corven. -- Original message -- From: Jim Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have been flying the Ava some more. What kind of tape do people use on the tips so that the edge of the covering doesn't peel up? I've been having that problem. Or perhaps I should run a bit of thin CA to seal the edges?? You need to use an underlayer of tape to protect the covering and/or paint. The 3M tape that comes with the purple plaid insert in the dispenser, Satin Tape, 3/4 wide, available at most office supply stores. The advantages of this tape are; thin, frosty finish so that the tape actually used to hold the panels together peels off cleanly. Apply a full width to both sides of the joint, starting at the hinge line and wrapping around the leading edge an inch or so. I believe that most fliers use to strong a tape to hold the together. On a hard landing I like to see the tape split as this dissipates quite a bit of energy - even though removing the split tape is a PITA. I use the 3M Crystal Clear tape to hold the panels together. Your mileage may vary. Jim Porter Johnston Iowa USA The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
