[RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win????

[Mark Stockton]

I'll have to choose Craig Goodrum, currenlty chewing my fingers to the bone
waiting to see if he makes the fly offs. 

There after it will have to be someone from the South. David Hobby or Sven
Zaalberg.  

Regards

Mark

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's
limits."
-- Albert Einstein

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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:04:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Craig Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> First of all I think this is the year of the American Jr's... AJ 
> McGowan has the highest score of anybody And the Jr' Team is in 
> 3rd place :-)
> 
> Then I have to root for Team NZ... How cool is it that Joe Wurts is 
> not only helping tean NZ, but helping out JR USA team as well :-)
> 
> Then it's David Hobby What a great person.,... Timed for me 
> twice at this years IHLGF and never let on that he was two time 
> world F3J champ.. How cool is that?? And had the nearve to ask 
> him if he was any good at reading air :-) Dam I'm an idiot :-
> 
> Now I have to use the Gordy rule about not saying anything bad about 
>  people..
> 
> Most of us were born with hand built Oly 2's or Windwards -
>  Winfree's and work for a living and this is just a hobby to 
> us...But some of us were born with Gold plated Supra's in our mouths 
> and have nothing to do but fly toy airplanes and act like a  BIG 
> DICK Shit Did I just say that??? LoL :-  I guess I did :-
> )))  And I hope they fail
> 
> Craig.
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> First of all I think this is the year of the American Jr's... AJ 
> McGowan has the highest score of anybody And the Jr' Team is in 
> 3rd place :-)Then I have to root for Team NZ... How cool is 
> it that Joe Wurts is not only helping tean NZ, but helping out JR 
> USA team as well :-)Then it's David Hobby What a great 
> person.,... Timed for me twice at this years IHLGF and never let on 
> that he was two time world F3J champ.. How cool is that?? And 
> had the nearve to ask him if he was any good at reading air :-)
>  Dam I'm an idiot :-Now I have to use the Gordy rule 
> about not saying anything bad about  people..Most of us 
> were born with hand built Oly 2's or Windwards - Winfree's and work 
> for a living and this is just a hobby to us...But some of us were 
> born with Gold plated Supra's in our mouths and have nothing to do 
> but fly toy airplanes and act like a  BIG DICK Shit Did 
> I just say that??? LoL :-  I guess I did :-)))  And I 
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Re: [RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win????

[Marc Gellart]

"Dam I'm an idiot"

I think you pretty well hit it on the the head Craig, I could think of some 
other thoughts too.

Happy 4th of July to all!

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Re: [RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win????

[ivanbrian]

I would certainly rather see the entire world that reads this exchange see 
us being more kind and coming together better than to make this, and Craig's 
kind of remarks on a public forum.  YUP.. Happy 4th to all.  Brian Smith
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"Dam I'm an idiot"

I think you pretty well hit it on the the head Craig, I could think of 
some other thoughts too.


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[RCSE] Re:F3J worlds.. Who do you want to live

[Jim Deck]

Craig,
   First of all it's "Damn" not "Dam" and to second Mr. Gellart's 
comments - "Yes, you are".  Secondly, while this forum doesn't suffer from a 
lack of forthright opinions, personal diatribes definitely don't belong. 
We're all impressed with your "brush with greatness" when Mr. Hobby timed 
for you but keep your personal opinions to yourself or your blog.

Now back to this forum's regular topics,
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)

[ZULIM SUZAN]

Like watching grass grow in dry weather?  I think not.
No, even more boring than that, its more like reading the seemingly endless 
stream of mindless diarrhea like ranting by Gordysoar.  Thank the Lord for a 
delete key.
Happy Fourth.
Cliff Lindgren
 
P.S.  Has anyone heard if the rumor that there will no longer be any glider 
racing at the Big Creek slope site true?  I guess it's because of the serious 
accident that took place during the last Man on Man race sponsored by the 
Northern California Slope Soarers.  I guess the owner doesn't want the 
liability.  I've even heard flying of any type might be banned forever.  What a 
shame.  Just another wonderful flying site lost.  I certainly hope the officers 
of the club and the Safety Marshall take a close look at their current safety 
rules before sponsoring another event.  Perhaps the land owners of their home 
slope should be made aware of the past accident and the possible liability they 
are exposed to.  I am extremely curious why the "Hush, Hush" attitude has been 
displayed by the NCSS.  Couldn't the whole soaring/racing community benefit by 
their telling all and informing the slope soaring community about the accident 
thereby taking action to
 avoid the possibility of another serious accident?  No, it would seem 
"sweeping it under the carpet" is NCSS's current policy.



- Original Message 
From: Gordysoar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 9:53:18 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.or I couild hae read the 
article in context:-)


-why are the people who have no interest or participation in
e-soaring events on any level-

Doesn't take a lot of thinking here.  We are alotted just so many
minutes of time to do our hobby each month.  We chose to spend them
doing the kind of flying we like...there just isn't time or money to
focus on more than one thing.

When E 'soaring' comps turned into motor wars...the soaring guys got
bored...if we were interested in motors and their components, we'd have
stayed flying electrics or glow. But we have no interest in motors, or
even radios...its the soaring that has us hooked, thermals to be exact
and the endless hunt for them.

The guys interested in motors, got excited about LMR because it played
into their interests...a chance to over power the other competitors. 
When the soaring guys like Bob got involved, the focus started leaning
toward more difficult soaring tasks...and that bored the power guys.

The few still involved (motor guys) are the ones who yelped the loudest
when they assumed that the Zlog Alti Switch was going to butt into their
'powers'. 

IF they'd have actually read the article, they'd have seen that not one
single soaring guy is interested in changing or affecting their 'hobby'.
We are instead just looking at ideas for our possible doom (future of
no winches, or land go set one up.)

One more time thread mates, enjoy your LMR events, decide your own
rules, have fun.  Power up and enjoy.

No contest rules need to even be considered for the use of a Zlog Alti
Switch...no beepers or timers or anything else...because other than the
test group that Jack is going to try this summer, there's no one
planning on putting a motor in his sailplane soon.

Why so little interest in Powered Soaring Events?  Because soaring guys
aren't intersted in motors, batteries, props and gear boxes...and motor
guys aren't interested in thermaling at a contest...kind of like
watching grass grow in dry weather ;-).
Gordy
Chicago on the beach tomorrow


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[RCSE] "Hello America! Stand By For News! DP is in the F3J World Fly Offs!"

[GordySoar]

I have to tell you guys that I am sick todayI picked up a summer cold  
that's got me lower than I've been in a lot of years, but when I dialed into 
the 
 F3j World site this morning...things got worse...
 
Cody had taken a zero for landing out..and that slid him off the leader  
boardand I am totally depressed about it, because in all my time of flying, 
 I 
have met some great guys, and some great young guys, but Cody is someone that 
 I have come to respect on a level like my own son.  He has consistently  
represented the best in all of the USA Soaring Community...so my heart goes out 
 
to him today... and I urge all American soaring guys to applaud Cody Remington 
 and his work, performance and just plain class as a young man.
 
And then I got happy, REALLY happy!  The sun shone in to America's  bedrooms 
...DP is in the fly offs!
 
While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I  
think its especially neat to have our own three peat F3B guy and F3J World  
Newbie  Daryl Perkins make it!  Despite equipment dramas and  newbie  (okay I 
get 
to tease him a bit here)  jitters, his teammates  managed to keep him focus'd !
 
I know that the guys in that group are fantastic fliers and I've been  
fortunate to meet some, even eat lunch with some at the Calgary Worlds, so I 
can  
tell you that each and everyone are guys who like to fly model sailplanes and  
have fun with their friends doing it.
 
But they aren't the types to give a single second to any one :-).
 
Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every  
penny donated.
 
Excited and going flying in Chicago with TK and Jim McCarthy  todayyou?

Gordy



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[RCSE] F3J worlds.. I was NOT born with a Gold Supra in My Mouth! --But I do have a big

[GordySoar]

. High End...and I'll have it out   today...plus I'll be flying my Super 
AVA carbon converted to JR's DSM 2.4 system   for the antenna arrangement 
I have set up the D Barker Sputnik extension  array...four whiskers arranged 
around the circumference just behind the  nose cone rim.
 
Tobias of the German Team is flying a High  End, so apparently has good taste 
too ;-).  
 
Gordy
 
 
Now I have to use the Gordy rule about not saying anything  bad about  
people..

Most of us were born with hand built Oly 2's or  Windwards - Winfree's and 
work for a living and this is just a hobby to us...But  some of us were born 
with Gold plated Supra's in our mouths and have nothing to  do but fly toy 
airplanes and act like a  BIG DICK 



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Re: [RCSE] "Hello America! Stand By For News! DP is in the F3J World Fly Offs!"

[Steve Schneider]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:36 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I have to tell you guys that I am sick todayI picked up a summer cold
> that's got me lower than I've been in a lot of years, but when I dialed into
> the F3j World site this morning...things got worse...
>
> Cody had taken a zero for landing out..and that slid him off the leader
> boardand I am totally depressed about it, because in all my time of
> flying, I have met some great guys, and some great young guys, but Cody is
> someone that I have come to respect on a level like my own son.  He has
> consistently represented the best in all of the USA Soaring Community...so
> my heart goes out to him today... and I urge all American soaring guys to
> applaud Cody Remington and his work, performance and just plain class as a
> young man.
>
> And then I got happy, REALLY happy!  The sun shone in to America's bedrooms
> ...DP is in the fly offs!
>
> While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I
> think its especially neat to have our own three peat F3B guy and F3J World
> Newbie  Daryl Perkins make it!  Despite equipment dramas and newbie  (okay I
> get to tease him a bit here)  jitters, his teammates managed to keep him
> focus'd !
>
> I know that the guys in that group are fantastic fliers and I've been
> fortunate to meet some, even eat lunch with some at the Calgary Worlds, so I
> can tell you that each and everyone are guys who like to fly model
> sailplanes and have fun with their friends doing it.
>
> But they aren't the types to give a single second to any one :-).
>
> Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every
> penny donated.
>
> *Excited and going flying in Chicago with TK and Jim McCarthy
> todayyou?*
>
> Gordy
>
> I would usually be out with TK and Jim McCarthy today also, but on a nice 3
day weekednd, I have to give the wife a little time.  I'm really glad I
picked today to be that day.

Steve

>
>
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)

[David Klein]

 I think your post is a bit of BS and selfish too.

Any accident that will most likely be subject to some form of litigation is
never talked about in public.  Also, "safety practices"...  No matter what
you do there is always the danger of a plane falling out of the sky and
hitting someone.  Every time someone launches a plane and looses control,
runs the battery dead.   they are rolling the dice with possibly killing
someone.  Those that were effected by this incident knew the risks involved.


I am not involved with the NCSS, but I am involved with slope racing.   This
was the first time in a few years that I missed the ISR.  The fact that an
accident happened at an orgaized event is better than if it were a bunch of
sport fliers.  At least there was an AMA sanction, and all of the pilots had
AMA cards and all of the safety rules were followed.

So if you don't know the details, don't spread rumors and blow smoke up
everyones behind.  And don't talk down about those organizations that allow
us to do what we love.  Everyone involved in the incident, all of the
organizers, have voluntarily taken on alot of personal liability.  My heart
goes out to first the injured, then the pilots, then the pothers involved.

Thanks,
David Klein






if the rumor that there will no longer be any glider racing at the Big Creek
> slope site true?  I guess it's because of the serious accident that took
> place during the last Man on Man race sponsored by the Northern California
> Slope Soarers.  I guess the owner doesn't want the liability.  I've even
> heard flying of any type might be banned forever.  What a shame.  Just
> another wonderful flying site lost.  I certainly hope the officers of the
> club and the Safety Marshall take a close look at their current safety rules
> before sponsoring another event.  Perhaps the land owners of their home
> slope should be made aware of the past accident and the possible liability
> they are exposed to.  I am extremely curious why the "Hush, Hush" attitude
> has been displayed by the NCSS.  Couldn't the whole soaring/racing community
> benefit by their telling all and informing the slope soaring community about
> the accident thereby taking action to avoid the possibility of another
> serious accident?  No, it would seem "sweeping it under the carpet" is
> NCSS's current policy.
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Gordysoar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: soaring@airage.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 9:53:18 PM
> Subject: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.or I couild hae read
> the article in context:-)
>
>
> -why are the people who have no interest or participation in
> e-soaring events on any level-
>
> Doesn't take a lot of thinking here.  We are alotted just so many
> minutes of time to do our hobby each month.  We chose to spend them
> doing the kind of flying we like...there just isn't time or money to
> focus on more than one thing.
>
> When E 'soaring' comps turned into motor wars...the soaring guys got
> bored...if we were interested in motors and their components, we'd have
> stayed flying electrics or glow. But we have no interest in motors, or
> even radios...its the soaring that has us hooked, thermals to be exact
> and the endless hunt for them.
>
> The guys interested in motors, got excited about LMR because it played
> into their interests...a chance to over power the other competitors.
> When the soaring guys like Bob got involved, the focus started leaning
> toward more difficult soaring tasks...and that bored the power guys.
>
> The few still involved (motor guys) are the ones who yelped the loudest
> when they assumed that the Zlog Alti Switch was going to butt into their
> 'powers'.
>
> IF they'd have actually read the article, they'd have seen that not one
> single soaring guy is interested in changing or affecting their 'hobby'.
> We are instead just looking at ideas for our possible doom (future of
> no winches, or land go set one up.)
>
> One more time thread mates, enjoy your LMR events, decide your own
> rules, have fun.  Power up and enjoy.
>
> No contest rules need to even be considered for the use of a Zlog Alti
> Switch...no beepers or timers or anything else...because other than the
> test group that Jack is going to try this summer, there's no one
> planning on putting a motor in his sailplane soon.
>
> Why so little interest in Powered Soaring Events?  Because soaring guys
> aren't intersted in motors, batteries, props and gear boxes...and motor
> guys aren't interested in thermaling at a contest...kind of like
> watching grass grow in dry weather ;-).
> Gordy
> Chicago on the beach tomorrow
>
>
> --
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> 
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[RCSE] Worlds :-)

[Craig Allen]

I forgot to congratulate AJ and DP for making it into the fly-offs... What 
better day for team USA that on July 4th :-) And the Jr team... WOW WOW!!! 
WOW!!! Silver.. Now that's cool   :-)

Craig

[RCSE] "A Day to Remember....Flying the High End....Truly a 'Pilot's' Sailplane!"

[GordySoar]

Tom Kellevang, Jim McCarthy and I played with my new High End today in  
Illinois...the weather was as good as it can getnot too hot, strong thermal 
 
activity which kept a soothing breeze coming and made working the air a little  
challenging too.
 
Big fluffy clouds with dark bottoms made visibility excellent too.
 
TK was flying his new Icon2, and Jim a Pike Perfect...all of us on the JR  
DSM 2.4 systems
 
I started the day getting my Super Ava set up again since I'd installed a  
DSM 2.4 system in it last nite in Jim's basement.  Ground range said it  wasn't 
the best install but no Holds so good enough for RES ;-).
 
I began my day of soaring by hand tossing it into thermals, working it out,  
up and away, then doing it again...I was so happy to be on the flying field 
that  I forgot how sick I was...and still am!  I realized I'd over done it when 
I  just about fell over going to pick up my plane!
 
I took a break and then winched it a few times for maxes and decided it was  
ready and set.  So out came my gorgeous High Endthere was a bit of  drool 
from the guys, but I managed to wipe it off the plane and up the line she  
went.
 
It is a launcher...very fast up the line with a really easy pop ping to  
vertical and a long wait till it finally hits apex.   I worked on  trims, mixes 
etc, then handed it over to Jim for his feelings about  ...everything I'd set 
up.
 
I flew it about 15 times I think for 10's and landingsworking on  
learning its landing pattern and speeds, stick positions, comps etc.  I'm  off 
using 
skegs for a while again, forcing myself to get control of the model  
again...so by the end I'd hit three 90+ and on my last "This is the big  
one!"I 
landed one second early with the nose nestled on my hat.
 
TK flew Johns at the JR Aerotow and he flew mine too, we all agreed that  
this is a Pilot's Sailplane, it takes more piloting than most ships and  that 
makes it a bit more fun than the high wing, high dihedral ships...and it  
rewards 
you for it.
 
Its beers and steak timehope you guys are having a great Independence  
Day too!
 
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RE: [RCSE] "Hello America! Stand By For News! DP is in the F3J World Fly Offs!"

[Klaus Weiss]

Woke up this morning to find that Theo, Mike and Gregg didn't make the
flyoffs. I urge all Australians to applaud their efforts.  Then I got REALLY
happy, as the sun shone in my bedroom window (it was raining yesterday) ..
DH is in the flyoffs.

 

While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I
think its especially neat to have our own twice W.C. David Hobby make it! 

 

Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every
penny they had to spend getting there.

 

(Sorry Gordy ... I had to do it.  I tried, but just couldn't help myself :-)
)  Congrats to DP and good luck to him.  I hope David or Sven take it out
though.

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie - oi, oi, oi.

 

Klaus K Weiss

Airsports R.C.

www.airsportsrc.com.au

 

And then I got happy, REALLY happy!  The sun shone in to America's bedrooms
...DP is in the fly offs!

 

While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I
think its especially neat to have our own three peat F3B guy and F3J World
Newbie  Daryl Perkins make it!  Despite equipment dramas and newbie  (okay I
get to tease him a bit here)  jitters, his teammates managed to keep him
focus'd !

 

 

Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every
penny donated.

 


Gordy





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[RCSE] "See you at Soar's RES Event Tomorrow?"

[GordySoar]

Hi guys, 
 
I'm going to head down to the Soar field near Bolingbrook tomorrow, they  
have a 2m, RES event and while I don't own a 2m any more, I have my Super Ava  
along so I'll be there with the boys having some fun in the sun.

Light winds and not too warm temps.
 
Gordy
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[RCSE] "F3J Worlds Got Interrupted, Bet You Don't Know Why!"

[GordySoar]

Believe it or not its because they have 'perspective' !
 
Its a model airplaine contest... a hobby!
 
They quit the F3J World Competition to give everyone a break ...and flew a  
MPX Easy Glider Contest!
 
Yep one design foamies!
 
That after the Prelims and before the Fly offsnot sure what or who was  
the result but you have to give the Turks credit for spirit! :-)
 
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