Re: [RCSE] Can hornytoads fly?

2000-06-05 Thread Moved by the wind.

Howard Rudy wrote:

>
> I have seen a lot of dust devils come through are hay fields and make a big mess.
> I have seen a column of cut hay pulled up 80-90 in the air. It comes down in trees
> and over power lines. But I have never had a plane handy at the time.
>

I flew in one at the CASA Sugerloaf 2m contest about '83, Gerry Zigenfuse was in it 
also.  I was lower than Ziggy, (what's new), about
3/4th the way up the column, and got lots of being thrown around , but not much up 
air.  Ziggy was at the top and seamed to fair
somewhat better, but not the stairway to heaven you would think.

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Re: [RCSE] Interesting photo!

2000-05-27 Thread Moved by the wind.

Brian Chan wrote:

> The  only way the picture is real is he just tossed the plane up
> inverted and took the shot.
>

I agree, or your looking at a new Polygrip user!

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Re: [RCSE] pinholes

2000-05-16 Thread Moved by the wind.

max velocity wrote:

> a method for filling pinholes that works for
> them. Fast and light!

Try spraying primer on, then while still wet push the paint into the pin holes with 
your finger tip.  Wipe off the rest before it
dries.

I got that tip from Terry Luckenback, the best builder I ever met.

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Re: [RCSE] spoileron setup

2000-05-13 Thread Moved by the wind.

Bill Harris wrote:

>
> What criteria should be used to determine the maximum amount of spoileron up travel? 
> I can see that a large throw will decrease the effectiveness of the ailerons, but 
>want to get the most "braking" from them.

I used spoilerons on my 4.2 meter ASK-21, full up was about 60*, with that I never 
lost ailerons.  IF some effectiveness was lost, I must have just increased the input 
command because I never sensed it.

> I also expect that the nose will pitch down and will need to mix in some up-elevator.
>

 They caused pitch UP not down.  The amount of pitch up was so slight I never bothered 
with mixing in down elevator.

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Re: [RCSE] repairing glass skin

2000-04-02 Thread Moved by the wind.

I had a similar problem earlier this year.  I used 15 minute spackle in the crease, 
then sanded smooth, followed by 2 layers .75oz
glass CA'ed on over the spackling. It took about 3 minutes of work over 30 minutes.

Rodger Hamer wrote:

>  glass skin wings Ding in LE,..there was
> some bending action to the wings, with a mild crease. How do I repair?

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Re: [RCSE] Schweizer 2-32 three view?

2000-04-01 Thread Moved by the wind.



"Moved by the wind." wrote:

> You can write Schweizer, at the Schweizer factory, he goes in a few days a week just 
>for that kind of thing.

You might also try the museum at Harris Hill, I got some 3 views of a 1-26 from them.
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Re: [RCSE] But will it thermal?? -NOT a yes or no question.

2000-03-29 Thread Moved by the wind.



Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner wrote:

>  I could beat any $3000+ perfecto-glider using my 34" foam and tape Red Herring IF 
>the contest were restricted to my local
> hill/field on a light scattered thermal day.

What ever happen to the guy that was going to bet JOE $1000 he could beat him in a 
contest a couple of years ago?

Rich B
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Re: [RCSE] How high???

2000-03-29 Thread Moved by the wind.



CARL WALTHER wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was just wondering, how high can I fly my glider before I lose radio
> control???   Some say about 1 mile?
>

Out of sight.

>
> How does a 100ft. wingspan glider look from a mile up in the sky?  Or how
> can I estimate the altitude?

If you really meant 100" glider, Jack Cash, a member of the CASA club once wrote a 
nice piece about watching some hawks flying while
driving toward them.  The way I recall it he assumed the birds where about the size of 
a two meter and by checking his odometer her
was able to determine that he could see them from over 2 miles.

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Re: [RCSE] No Thanks for cobra servo info

2000-03-24 Thread Moved by the wind.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  And by the way the skin graft to my finger
> worked perfect.  Popular opinion in this case tells me to keep it a little
> further  away from the Radial Arm Saw.

As much as you get around I'm wondering if Raymond Wong would pick you out in a line 
up.  Radial Arm Saw, no witness, pretty lame
alibi.

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Re: [RCSE] RE: Inverted Dihedral

2000-03-22 Thread Moved by the wind.



Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner wrote:

> There has got to be more to it than just ground or surface effect. Swallows
> use significant anhedral for ANY non flapping glide... There
> is fairly significant sweep to the wings in this mode.

It maybe to neutralize the dihedral effect of the wing sweep.  3* of wing sweep is 
about equal to 1* of dihedral.  If the wing is
swept 40* that's an effective dihedral of 13*.  If they have 13* of anhedral the two 
would cancel each other out.

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Re: [RCSE] RE: Forward sweep

2000-03-21 Thread Moved by the wind.



Dave wrote:

> .so that the trim would remain the same if flown by a single
> pilot in the forward seat.  The rear seat is on, or almost on, the CG.

That's right, but the reason for the sweep is to get the wing spar, or carry through 
structure from going through the rear seat
pilot.  A J-3 Cub is flown solo from the back seat the front seat is on the CG also, 
but the spar is over the front pilot's head.

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Re: [RCSE] New RES Wing

2000-03-19 Thread Moved by the wind.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi All, I'm looking for information for a new wing for my Sagitta 900 to fly
> in RES contests. What I need is a poly planform that I could use on a 10"
> cord, 110" wingspan wing.

No guru but my $.02  Don't go much longer than this with a Sagitta 900 body.  IMHO 
stick to 100", any soaring ability gain, will be
lost in the landing circle.

> . Would 3* dihedral for the root panel and 10* angle
> for the tip panel be OK?

I'd stick with the stock dihedral, but put an extra 1" in the tips.

> I would also like to change the airfoil, the E205 to
> S3021.

My friend made a plane with this airfoil and liked it, but I'd go with the RG-15. The 
Sagitta's e-205 was easy to build on a table,
the s-3021 is almost the same so it should build on a table ok too. If the cusp 
surface on the bottom of the RG-15 is a problem, cut
a bottom bed out of foam to build it on.

> I Plan to get one of the
> laser cutting companies to cut several wing ribs sets.

You might want to see if someone else wants to go in with you on this and split the 
setup cost.

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Re: [RCSE] Fiberglass Mold Surface Coat

2000-03-16 Thread Moved by the wind.



Mike Reed wrote:

> Fibre-Glast Also has a good quality product under
> the same name with a part number of 458-A Check out thier website at
> http://www.fibreglast.com/fiberglass_composites_catalog.htm

They only sell it by the gallon though. Aerospace Composite Products sells by the 
quart.
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Re: [RCSE] Is this stuff list appropriate?

2000-03-12 Thread Moved by the wind.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  When I get the auction running, is it
> okay to post a link to it here or is that kind of commercialism frowned upon?

I think once is ok, but don't give us an hourly report on the bidding. :^)
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Re: [RCSE] Re: New guy - Older Stuff

2000-03-08 Thread Moved by the wind.



Jeff Jones wrote:
>Does any one know what the throws should be on this ship ?

If the rudder at the back moves 1" each side you should be ok. The elevator about 1/2" 
measured at the back should be a good
starting point.

>and where the CG may be at ?

This is a tough one, they way I remember it with the tail feathers on, but no wings, 
you balance it at the wing rod, the nose is
suppose to be 17 1/2" down, (careful here though, I read the instructions twenty years 
ago).

>(ON-OFF) foot pedel

Yes

>or like a reastat ( progressively faster  the more you press the pedel ) ??
No

It's Hobie as in Hobie Alter of Hobie Cat fame.

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Re: [RCSE] 'at least as many poeple flying sailplanes as are driving R/C cars

2000-03-03 Thread Moved by the wind.



Tord wrote:

> Jim,
>
> The local hobby shop is seriously considering throwing
> out all aircraft kits and use that area, too, for R/C cars!
>

Of the three shops in driving distance of me, two dropped planes all together, now 
just RC Cars.  The third has helicopters with a
few power planes and MonoKote.

Sailplaners needs are specialized to support a local hobby shop, in NJ.

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Re: [RCSE] Re: Can one buy a Zagi in Seattle?

2000-03-02 Thread Moved by the wind.

Bill I apologize.  When I read the original post what you said made sense and you 
weren't confused about the location of Seattle.
Maybe I should read my e-mails from first in rather than from the bottom of the list 
up.
Rich B

"Moved by the wind." wrote:

> Bill Swingle wrote:
>
> >  I would certainly assume they're in Germany as well (unconfirmed).
>
> Seattle moved to Germany?
>
> Rich B
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Re: [RCSE] polyhedral

2000-03-02 Thread Moved by the wind.



Michael Imsic wrote:

> Could someone please tell me, what advantage is it to have dihedral in the centre of 
>the wing in addition to the outer panels on a
> poly HLG?

IMHO the dihedral imparts a feeling of better tracking to the plane.  A plane without 
dihedral will feel much more tippy, which is
nice that it screams LIFT.  The Paragon is a good example of the di and poly where 
Mirage is and example of the only poly, (my age
is showing).

>  Does this advantage outweigh the weakening of the wing by introducing another join 
>in the most stressed part of the wing?

It does if it helps you fly the plane more smoothly, but I think it mainly depends on 
YOUR flying style.  On planes that are used it
contest with landing task, it is a bonus to maneuvering close to the ground without 
catching a tip.

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Re: [RCSE] Tension?

2000-02-02 Thread Moved by the wind.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how to set the tension on a hot wire bow? What should I look for 
>as signs of too little

The wire bows out when you cut.

> or too much tension?

Wire breaks.

It's pretty much trial and error.

Too slow= ruff surface that looks melted.
Too fast= lots of drag on wire.
Just right= Angle hair in blue or pink foam, in white it looks right, you'll know it.

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Re: [RCSE] K-2 from NSP / MH32 airfoil

2000-02-01 Thread Moved by the wind.



Jill and Rick Brown wrote:

> If you overlay the two foils in Compufoil the MH32 is very nearly a copy
> of the 7037. Very slight difference.

Yea, they're both roundish in front and pointy at the back.

The SD7037 is thicker, has a cusp on the bottom, and seams to carry the upper surface 
higher back, (bubble ramp?).

Yeah, very slight difference to me.

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Re: [RCSE] Why we shouldn't inhale lead fumes (or eat ballast)

2000-02-01 Thread Moved by the wind.



Jim Ealy wrote:

> Lead shot and vapors

You think lead is bad, I remember a guy you used to fly with that said used depleted 
uranium.

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Re: [RCSE] skegs on sailplanes

2000-02-01 Thread Moved by the wind.



Michael Neverdosky wrote:

> How about shorter winch lines?
> a 100 meter line.
>

Does a 100 yard line make thousands of readily available sites leap to mine?  Gee, 
they even have the landing task set up already,
between the poles, under the bar to the spot.

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Re: [RCSE] Lead, Torch, Crucible, Fuse, Water, Ice

2000-01-31 Thread Moved by the wind.

Try Bismuth alloys instead, they melt at much lower temperatures and are almost as 
heavy as lead.  Small Parts Inc. sells some that
melts at 158* so it won't damage a glass fuse.
y-lma-158-4 is 4 oz. for $5.69
y-lma-158-16 is 16 oz. for $19.54
Their phone is 800.220.4242

Paul Klissner wrote:

> I saw an allusion to melting lead and pouring
> it into the nose of a fuselage that was partically
> immersed in icewater.
>
> Sounds even cooler than shot and epoxy (which I have
> used on several occassions).
>
> What is the cheapest and safest technique for doing
> this?  I know a Micronita torch won't melt lead.
> The flame is hot, but a massive piece of lead
> just absorbes the heat and re-solidifies around the
> heated area almost as fast as it melts (or faster).
>
> So what kind of heat source and container are recommened?
> Are the fumes toxic?
>
> -Paul
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Re: [RCSE] Zero Lift angle for S3010 Airfoil

2000-01-31 Thread Moved by the wind.

-2.53* Ideal angle of attack +1.16*

Robert Steinhaus wrote:

> I would be grateful to find out if anyone knows the zero lift angle for the
> S3010 airfoil. I would particularly be interested in experimental actual
> wind tunnel values above computed estimates (Compufoil, etc.). I hope to use
> S3010 on a wing tip operating at a reynolds number around 60,000.
> Thanks!
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Re: [RCSE] Making Buckshot How?

2000-01-30 Thread Moved by the wind.



Larry Taylor wrote:

>  I have the Lead. I need to know how to make Buckshot. I have been to several gun 
>show looking and asking. No Help.  I have some
> Buckshot that some one else made and it works for me. There is something out there. 
>I want to make my own. I just can't find it.

I've never done it, but this is what I read long ago on how lead shot is made.
Melt lead.
Pour it on a screen several feet above a buck of water.
Call 911.
The micro gravity of the lead droplet makes it round, the water freezes it that way. 
Lots of splashing and hissing, be careful of
little lead balls getting in you shoes.
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Re: [RCSE] Airless hand layups in molds

2000-01-28 Thread Moved by the wind.



Michael Imsic wrote:

> Mikey, try laying the cloth at 45 deg. as it tends to follow the contours
> much better.

or cloth with crowfoot weave.  It is made to drape better.

I'm not egocentric.
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Re: [RCSE] R.E.S.lurking points of interest!

2000-01-28 Thread Moved by the wind.



Mike Stump wrote:

> actually I was referring to a post by another Rich B... Burnoski..

I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
I'm not egocentric.
Really, I'm not egocentric.

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[RCSE] Zagi push or pull

2000-01-23 Thread Moved by the wind.

I'm going to start building my Zagi EPP in a
couple of days.  I got it with out a motor, but
now I think I want to power it.  I bought a P-40
kit from Sal, (great service BTW), with a Speed
400 & BEC, I am thinking of using that motor in
the Zagi.  The pictures I see of Zagi/Razors are
pushers, does anyone use a tractor motor?  If no
one does, can I just flip the red black leads to
make the motor a pusher.  The motor came with a
prop, what size props do you put on a 400 in a
Zagi.

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Re: [RCSE] New Tape for Foamie "spar" material

2000-01-20 Thread Moved by the wind.



"Moved by the wind." wrote:

> Aerofoam wrote:
>
> > >
> > None of the spray adhesives hold up to heat, use the liquid contact
> > cement and squeegie it on with a scrap of epp.
>
> I just got a Zagi EPP and it calls for 3m77 so I got it, but has anyone used the 
>waterbased contact adhesives instead, if so how did
>
> it work?
> Snowed in in NJ.
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Re: [RCSE] New Tape for Foamie "spar" material

2000-01-20 Thread Moved by the wind.



Aerofoam wrote:

> >
> None of the spray adhesives hold up to heat, use the liquid contact
> cement and squeegie it on with a scrap of epp.

I just got a Zagi EPP and it calls for 3m77 so I got it, but has anyone used the 
waterbed contact adhesives instead, if so how did
it work?
Snowed in in NJ.
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Re: [RCSE] Thermalling Question

2000-01-20 Thread Moved by the wind.



Paul Klissner wrote:

> Maybe there is wave lift?  I live in San Mateo, CA about 5 miles
> or so from the Santa Cruz mountains to the west overlooking
> the Pacific, towering far above my local hill in the distance.

It's going to get crowded where you fly.

It's probity caused by a sea breeze off the water.  Cool air being sucked onto the 
warmer land and rising toward the hi point of land.
The east coast guys can see this on Long Island, you can tell were the coast is from 
50 miles out to sea. In the summer there's a line
of clouds from Coney Island to Montuke Point about a mile in from the coast.

If your flying a TD ship on the slope it doesn't take much wind to stay up.  When I 
got my 8 hour slope, at Camelback PA, I had slope
lift up to over 5000', (How high is a Paragon when the wings and body merge into a 
dot?). When a thermal formed in the valley it would
suck the wind off the hill for twenty minutes, but when the thermal, (you could see 
the cloud), got over the hill you got the slope
lift back.

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Re: [RCSE] The Javelin

2000-01-12 Thread Moved by the wind.



 
Marc Gellart wrote:

For
all you Nostalgia guys out there, today I picked up a Javelin at a swap
meet.  Really cool rolled ply fuse with a beautiful epoxy paint finish,
no seam visible.  The kit was produced by Paul Parszik in Palos Verdes,
CA.  Vee dihedral like a Windfree and an all flying stab.  Pretty
straight forward kit and in original box, nothing even out of the bags.
My first glider.  Loved the fuse, broke the wing on the third hand
tow, ( boy was I ahead of my time, hand towed in the early 70's because
I couldn't afford a HiStart).  I cut out the broken center and it
made a pretty good 2M, for the 70's.  Just make sure you check the
washout before you fly, the covering can really warp the wings if it hasn't
taken a set yet.  I used to cover the plane, then put it in the car
for a couple of sunny days, then re-tune the washout.
Rich




Re: [RCSE] "Wow! Did you see this month's RC Soaring Digest?"

2000-01-05 Thread Moved by the wind.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I currently have a setup using 4-40 nylon wing bolts for my HLG...
> Anybody know where I can get some?
>

Radio Shack had some nylon bolts last time I was there, BUT try supporting some of the 
guys that are on the list and have the
stuff.  You got to support the little guys or they stop making the really cool stuff 
you can get now.
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Re: [RCSE] Music Wire For Wing Rod?

2000-01-05 Thread Moved by the wind.



>
> Jerry Chase wrote:
> >
> > I need a new 1/4" wing rod for my Dynaflite Bird of Time. Anyone know if
> > 1/4" music wire has similar properties to the wing rod supplied with the
> > kit?

Like Mark says drill rod is better, BUT I use music wire for wing rods on my Sailaire 
and they work, they may even be a plus.  No
winch can break my Sailaire's wings PERIOD, they may make the wing tips touch, but 
they can't break 'em.

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[RCSE] Hear God :^)

2000-01-05 Thread Moved by the wind.



John Roe wrote:

> I have heard from God on this topic, in a discussion about very, very
> low Reynolds numbers, specifically micro-hand launch.

Let's add a name to the list:

Joan of Arc
John Brown
David Kereish
Jim Jones
Son of Sam
John Roe

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Re: [RCSE] Ideal wing surface texture

2000-01-03 Thread Moved by the wind.

Scobie

Back when Michael Selig was doing wind tunnel test at Princeton he told me he had run 
test on this very thing.  As I remember it
smooth was best, but you might want to ask him.

I did my own test by spraying hair spray on one wing and leaving the other smooth, I 
couldn't find any difference.

I did find that trip strips work on a E205 smooth wing though.  I put a strip on the 
right wing @ 15%, and one on the left @ 25%.  I
found the plane pulled to the left on launch, then to the right while soaring.  My 
conclusion was the 15% strip helped at high
angles of attack, the 25% worked at a lower angle of attack.  When I put a 15% strip 
on the wing with the 25% strip, the plane
launched straight but still went to the right while soaring.  I then put a 25% strip 
on the right wing and the plane launched
straight and flew straight.  I had no way to tell if the plane with the strips out 
performed the when it didn't have them.  I should
have done early morning dead air launches to test that but I didn't.  BTW a Saggitta 
was good for 3m 30s as opposed to a Windsong
that 5m 20s in dead air.  These were the averages of 5 launches each alternating 
between flying the Sag and the Windsong, the way I
remember it there wasn't 10s difference in each planes flight times.

Scobie Putter or Sarah Felstiner wrote:

> Any aero-heads out there have any comments about wing surface texture? I
> know that careful vacuum bagging can produce a 'mirror-smooth' finish, but
> is this in fact the ideal surface? At low reynolds numbers generally
> encountered in the rc glider realm, is there any texture that would be
> preferable in any way?
>
> Would you notice distinct flight changes if your favorite 'high-gloss' wing
> were suddenly switched to random orbit 400 grit for finish, all other things
> being equal?
>
> Thanks for insight.
>
> Lift,
> Scobie in Seattle
>
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Re: [RCSE] Retract Location

1999-12-28 Thread Moved by the wind.

ScrollSander wrote:

> Gentlemen:
>
> scale plane,
>
> Any recommendations?

Dah, look at the real plane for the wheel location.
The tow hook:
draw a line from the balance point on the wing 30* down to the bottom of the plane.  
This worked ok on my 1/4 scale ASK-21.

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Re: [RCSE] Asymetric Flying Wing

1999-12-28 Thread Moved by the wind.

Breck Baldwin wrote:

> I have long had a desire to build a flying wing that flies with one
> surface swept forward and the other
> back--

Breck
Take two Prozacks and call me in the morning:^)

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Re: [RCSE] :-)

1999-12-24 Thread Moved by the wind.

Bill Johns wrote:

> At 11:14 AM 12/23/1999 -0800, Aerofoam wrote:
>
>  >> The Days are getting longer! The sun, warmth, bugs, are all coming back.
>
> >Where?
>
> Everywhere.  If the days aren't getting any longer where you live, contact
> NASA or your local equivalent.
>

Some Aussies might disagree with you.


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Re: [RCSE] RES and Nostalgia

1999-12-24 Thread Moved by the wind.

Ron wrote:

>
> How bout really long & wide spoilers on a T-tail design?  I'm thinking
> 18" x 2" w/a servo on each side to ensure 90 degree deflection.  Add a
> long tail moment with a full-flying stab above the downwash then slave
> it to spoiler to maintain attitude.  Hello spot landings:)

I had a 2T by HOB that I put spoilers on the flat center section that deploying the 
spoilers would make it do an outside loop!  I
have a picture of it on my web site if you want to see it.

I think you'll find that you want to keep the spoilers OUTSIDE of the stabs, whether a 
"T", "V", or conventional stab.

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[RCSE] Bill Miller

1999-11-11 Thread Moved by the wind.

I used to fly with Bill, does he still fly, or is
he still on this list?

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Re: [RCSE] Beginner help

1999-11-11 Thread Moved by the wind.

"Stephen A. Witt" wrote:

>  My 4 channel radio is Mode II and should have
> the rudder on the left stick and elevators on the right stick. Is this the
> way I should install the servos? Or should I install the servos so that
> the right stick has elevators and rudder? Does this question make sense?

No. Yes. Yes.


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Re: [RCSE] 1/16" sheet nylon source?

1999-11-11 Thread Moved by the wind.

Harley Michaelis wrote:

> Sig has discontinued their 2" x 4" x 1/16" sheet nylon piece once sold as
> item SH241. Does any one know of another source for this material?

1/16" X 12" X 12" #57504961$  5.95
   X 24"57504962  11.44
  X24" X24" 57504963 22.02

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