Re: [RCSE] Buying batteries
Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Of course, on RES planes, I think AA packs are just fine and use them myself, especially with analog servos. My short list of high quality cells are ones like the GP2200s, GP1100s, KAN1050s, Sanyo CP1700s, etc... Yes, I agree that you should always choose cells of the appropriate size, capacity, and current capability for your application. That's obvious. But what does that have to do with quality? Does a C-size cell have higher quality than a AAA-size cell? No! It's just a bigger battery. Anyway, thanks for changing your position on this. Your original post implied that a set of AA cells bought at WalMart might fail during a flight while a AA pack bought from battlepacks.com wouldn't. I think what you're telling us now is that if WalMart carries the size and type of cells that you need, it's safe to buy them there. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Buying batteries
Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] Buying batteries
Cheapbatteries.com -Original Message- From: Dave Brombaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:40 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Buying batteries Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Buying batteries
Dave: I have bought from BatteriesAmerica.com and from Cheapbatterypacks.com. I've been satisfied with the batteries and the service from both vendors. I have bought from SR Batteries in the past, but it is hard for me to justify the extra price of their packs. They do seem to be excellent quality. Ed Jett - Original Message - From: Dave Brombaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: [RCSE] Buying batteries Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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As George said, Cheapbatteries.com . They are da Bomb! I have become disenchanted with the batteriesamerica no-name nimh cells that have let me down several times,once after only6 months. I now will onlyuse nimhs that are GoldPeak(GP), KAN or CBP (cheapbattery packs). I am continuosly checking my packs and for the last 3 years have always obtained the performance as claimed from GoldPeak/KAN. I am still running cells thatwere 270mah rated that now sellas 350mah for the same size. Yet, they still put out the 270mah I ask for. BTW this gives me 2.5 hrs on my javelin hlg's that I fly on the slope during the winter. I have done this MANY times with juice left over when checked on the Sirius discharger at the end of the day.I run GoldPeak 2000 cells in my Stylus and seldom need to use my back up pack. If I do, it is becuase of extensive aircraft setup "ON" time for the TX. But, then again, each to his own Blue skies, Capn Crunchie__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I go to WalMart and buy the newest high capacity AA cells that they are offering. I have always found that the first charging has to be slow but after that I recharge at 1 amp. I am using these in a 6 servo glider and have found that I usually use about 600 ma during an evening of flying. The Rx drain fairly closely matches the Tx drain of the Evo. This of course only answers half your question since you wanted cells for smaller planes too. Rick Richard Hallett Pittsfield ME Dave Brombaugh wrote: Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Buying batteries
Dave: I now buy from Cheap Battery Packs (had a bad cell after a couple of flights and he replaced it). Used Batteries America before- no problems Bought from SR Batteries before and was sent a dead cell and he would not replace it. I personally would NEVER anything buy from him again. No matter what his reputation is supposed to be. Ed - Original Message - From: Dave Brombaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: [RCSE] Buying batteries Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I once needed a couple of custom packs for my 2m planes. Per instructions, I sent a very clear, color coded diagram along with my order to cheapbatterypacks.com. I specifically asked for the power cord to exit a specific end of the packs and also that there should be strain relief for the wire. I suggested a loop of wire, retained by some filament tape before shrink wrapping. Of course, offered to pay any additional charges for this. The packs came back with the power cord coming out the wrong end, with no strain relief at all. I called, they said they had built them as I asked. I asked them to look at the diagram I sent which clearly showed the whole thing. Finally, they agreed to take them back, but admonished me to send a diagram showing clearly what I wanted. Wha-wha-what? That was my last order. I order all my packs now from battlepacks.com and hangtimes.org. These guys charge more, but the pack quality is excellent (and yes, there is a qualitative difference in packs), plus they listen to you and build it the way you specify. As to you guys who are buying cheap Wal-Mart batteries to put into your sailplanes, what are you thinking? Why take a chance on ruining an expensive sailplane with anything less than the absolute best? And for what, so you can save a few dollars? That's crazy. Use the very highest quality batteries you can find, built into the very best packs by the very best builders, and thus minimize the potential for failure. --Jim On May 22, 2005, at 2:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave: I now buy from Cheap Battery Packs (had a bad cell after a couple of flights and he replaced it). Used Batteries America before- no problems Bought from SR Batteries before and was sent a dead cell and he would not replace it. I personally would NEVER anything buy from him again. No matter what his reputation is supposed to be. Ed - Original Message - From: Dave Brombaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: [RCSE] Buying batteries Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Buying batteries
Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to you guys who are buying cheap Wal-Mart batteries to put into your sailplanes, what are you thinking? Why take a chance on ruining an expensive sailplane with anything less than the absolute best? And for what, so you can save a few dollars? That's crazy. Use the very highest quality batteries you can find, built into the very best packs by the very best builders, and thus minimize the potential for failure. WalMart sells Energizer 2300+ MAH AA cells, which are what I use in all my sailplanes, although I do avoid buying mine from WalMart. It really makes no difference where you buy them aside from the price and your feelings about the store itself. You'll get the same batteries regardless. As for building a four- or five-cell pack, it's not rocket science. In fact, it's nothing compared to setting up even an ARF model plane. Most of us have the appropriate skills and tools. But here's what I want to know: How do you go about identifying the very highest quality batteries? What particular brand of battery do you have in mind that you know to be of higher quality and dependability than the Energizers sold at WalMart, and how do you know this? Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Buying batteries
Mike, It's easy to know what the best cells are for sailplane rx applications. Just observe what cells are highly regarded by people for motor power. Those are what you want to use. You want cells of low impedance and high capacity on full house planes. If you are putting Energizer 2300 mAh AA cells in full house molded planes with digital servos, then good luck! I would not run them down much past 1/2 capacity before recharging as they will likely start to suffer voltage drop offs at about that level. Of course, on RES planes, I think AA packs are just fine and use them myself, especially with analog servos. My short list of high quality cells are ones like the GP2200s, GP1100s, KAN1050s, Sanyo CP1700s, etc. The new GP2000 4/5A cells is also fast proving itself. Those types of cells will deliver the current and voltage you need right up to capacity. Just look at the discharge curves provided by the manufacturers, or plot them yourself with a Medusa Power Analyzer or similar. I'm pretty good with soldering, but do not have the equipment to do a proper solder joint, especially on something like a AA button cell. I leave that to the pros. I've tried, and can make what looks like a decent joint, but don't trust it... By the time I heat up the contact sufficiently, I get concerned that I am damaging the cell. It's just not my area of expertise. Of course, if the batteries have tabs, it's no problem. --Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:50 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Buying batteries Jim Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to you guys who are buying cheap Wal-Mart batteries to put into your sailplanes, what are you thinking? Why take a chance on ruining an expensive sailplane with anything less than the absolute best? And for what, so you can save a few dollars? That's crazy. Use the very highest quality batteries you can find, built into the very best packs by the very best builders, and thus minimize the potential for failure. WalMart sells Energizer 2300+ MAH AA cells, which are what I use in all my sailplanes, although I do avoid buying mine from WalMart. It really makes no difference where you buy them aside from the price and your feelings about the store itself. You'll get the same batteries regardless. As for building a four- or five-cell pack, it's not rocket science. In fact, it's nothing compared to setting up even an ARF model plane. Most of us have the appropriate skills and tools. But here's what I want to know: How do you go about identifying the very highest quality batteries? What particular brand of battery do you have in mind that you know to be of higher quality and dependability than the Energizers sold at WalMart, and how do you know this? Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
