RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
Steve, I asked a AMA official about the status of F3K as a WC event supported by the AMA. I was told that it would not be supported unless one of the F3B or F3J was dropped. I guess soaring is getting popular. F3K all over s growing very rapidly. Chris > Original Message > Subject: Re: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals > From: S Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, August 03, 2008 5:45 pm > To: Ben Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "soaring@airage.com" > Ben Wilson wrote: > > ... > > > > That's out of 112 participants. Someone (who shall remain nameless) at > > the US F3K NATS said to me "they have 112 people at a *handlaunch* > > contest?" "Yes, (name), handlaunch is popular everywhere else in the > > world except the US Nationals". > > > > There's a good reason why 8 (almost 10) of our top pilots went to > > Germany instead of the NATS - though it might have been the draught > > beer on tap on the field! (When can we get that at Muncie?) > I witnessed quite a few beers, though nothing on tap. You have to bring > your own. BYOB. > Bubba, the number 1 beer connoisseur, was seen clutching a vintage pint > most evenings. > There were also mojitos, wine, cheese, guacamole, hamburgers, brats, > steaks, pork tenderloin, bean casserole, and much more. You just need > to stay more than one day and hang out with the right people. :-) > Voice your opinions to your LSF officials that you would like a 2 day > HL contest and that you will attend. We don't want HL to go the way of > Scale, Scale CC, and soon F3B. > Steve Meyer > LSF IV > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
I'm with Lex, though I have great respect for the Soaring Nationals as a whole. Clearly it is a great effort to put that together, and I hope everyone is having a great time. I want to say KUDOS to Ed Franz and those others who made hand launch at that NATS happen. What a great job--11 rounds flown. Excellent! Main Point: Until there is two days of hand launch, Nats will completely miss the opportunity to be the pre-eminent hand launch event in the country. Until then, a one hand launch event will be Nationals in name but not in status. Those of us who focus on hand launch will rarely travel for a one day event. It's just not worth the effort to prepare and get somewhere. Hand launch is strong in the US, and getting markedly stronger every year. We're going to have a great team selection process for the World Championship in 2010, for the event in 2011. The final team selection doesn't have to be in Muncie, and it certainly doesn't need to be part of NATs. And I know those guys who made it to NATs HL understand why so many of our finest went to Europe. The German Open is the largest, and probably the best event in the world right now. Hard to turn those three days down, just to fly one day here. Aradhana Singh Khalsa
Re: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
Ben Wilson wrote: ... That's out of 112 participants. Someone (who shall remain nameless) at the US F3K NATS said to me "they have 112 people at a *handlaunch* contest?" "Yes, (name), handlaunch is popular everywhere else in the world except the US Nationals". There's a good reason why 8 (almost 10) of our top pilots went to Germany instead of the NATS - though it might have been the draught beer on tap on the field! (When can we get that at Muncie?) I witnessed quite a few beers, though nothing on tap. You have to bring your own. BYOB. Bubba, the number 1 beer connoisseur, was seen clutching a vintage pint most evenings. There were also mojitos, wine, cheese, guacamole, hamburgers, brats, steaks, pork tenderloin, bean casserole, and much more. You just need to stay more than one day and hang out with the right people. :-) Voice your opinions to your LSF officials that you would like a 2 day HL contest and that you will attend. We don't want HL to go the way of Scale, Scale CC, and soon F3B. Steve Meyer LSF IV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
Lex Mierop wrote: "If the Nat's can ever figure out that it will take a 2 day F3K event to draw the numbers, then that just might happen..." What's to figure out? The IHLF event put on by the Torrey Pine Gulls has always been regarded as the premier event in HL. Unfortunately the European contingent does not travel to the U.S. We could put on the greatest F3K event and it just won't draw the numbers. In the U.S. we are used to travelling long distances to compete. In Europe they drive. It is very rare to fly to an event in Europe. In addition the LSF has figured it out. A week long event that attempts to cater to all of the soaring contingent. IMHO they do a great job. Glider camp. I wish I was there. Jim McCarthy
Re: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
So lets kill 2-meter and add F3K.. ouch (-: - Original Message - From: Kai Yang<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lex<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: soaring<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; soaring<mailto:soaring@airage.com> ; ben<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals I second that... 2 day F3K will attracts some CA pilots (like myself) for sure. -Kai ※ 引述《"Lex Mierop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>》之郵件內容: >Ben Wrote: >>Great contest, guys! I'd love to see more Loud Americans heading >>overseas for that contest or better yet, more Euros at our NATS! :) > > >If the Nat's can ever figure out that it will take a 2 day F3K event to >draw the numbers, then that just might happen... > > -l > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
I second that... 2 day F3K will attracts some CA pilots (like myself) for sure. -Kai ※ 引述《"Lex Mierop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>》之郵件內容: >Ben Wrote: >>Great contest, guys! I'd love to see more Loud Americans heading >>overseas for that contest or better yet, more Euros at our NATS! :) > > >If the Nat's can ever figure out that it will take a 2 day F3K event to >draw the numbers, then that just might happen... > > -l > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. >Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in >text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
Ben Wrote: >Great contest, guys! I'd love to see more Loud Americans heading >overseas for that contest or better yet, more Euros at our NATS! :) If the Nat's can ever figure out that it will take a 2 day F3K event to draw the numbers, then that just might happen... -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
Yeah, and you know what is even worse? Marc Gellart's Blaster didn't have a rudder on it either - just a stab - and he won our NATS too... I kinda feel bad for ribbing Marc in one of the last rounds where he was struggling keeping his turn coordinated in some super-light air... but his launches were great and apparently lack of rudder didn't keep him from winning the contest... (I like my rudder, thank you very much) Great contest, guys! I'd love to see more Loud Americans heading overseas for that contest or better yet, more Euros at our NATS! :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for keeping everyone updated Ben. What a great competition it was. The skills on that field were impressive. I sure would have liked to have a higher finish but even in 31st place my score was 96.4% of first. I am happy with my performance. It was well worth the trip and I have every intention to go back for another shot at em next year. Here is a little factoid for ya, the guy that finished first did not have a rudder on his plane. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
Thanks for keeping everyone updated Ben. What a great competition it was. The skills on that field were impressive. I sure would have liked to have a higher finish but even in 31st place my score was 96.4% of first. I am happy with my performance. It was well worth the trip and I have every intention to go back for another shot at em next year. Here is a little factoid for ya, the guy that finished first did not have a rudder on his plane. Bruce Davidson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] German Open F3K Finals
The 2008 German Open F3K is overand the USA took 2nd! North Carolina's own Oleg Golovidov (TD guy turned F3K) battled his way into the fly-off and then put the hammer down to finish in 2nd. Phil Barnes also made the fly-off and finished in 8th overall. Bret Carr (Jeff's son) took 6th in the Junior category! Other US participants (who didn't make the flyoffs): 20th - Paul Anderson 31st - Bruce Davidson 33rd - Adam Weston 58th - Jeff Carr 96th - Brett Carr 97th - Chris Adams That's out of 112 participants. Someone (who shall remain nameless) at the US F3K NATS said to me "they have 112 people at a *handlaunch* contest?" "Yes, (name), handlaunch is popular everywhere else in the world except the US Nationals". There's a good reason why 8 (almost 10) of our top pilots went to Germany instead of the NATS - though it might have been the draught beer on tap on the field! (When can we get that at Muncie?) Bunches of Photos and such: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=899115&page=2 Results Pre-Flyoffs: http://www.mcm-muenchen.com/wettbewerbe/F3KResult.pdf Junior (18-) Flyoffs: http://www.mcm-muenchen.com/wettbewerbe/F3KFlyOffJunior.pdf Senior (18+) Flyoffs: http://www.mcm-muenchen.com/wettbewerbe/F3KFlyOffSenior.pdf Way to go Team USA! Keep it up for F3K in 2010? 2011? 2012? Ben Wilson wrote: The German F3K Open is currently going on *right now* and a good group of handlaunch pilots from the US are over in Munich battling it out. Right now, Oleg Golovidov and Phil Barnes are 6th and 9th after 9 rounds. Heavy hitters Paul Anderson and Louisville's own Bruce Davidson are in 19th and 26th. See, people will actually travel to a handlaunch contest... if it's more than a day long :) Scores and such can be found here, scroll down to Results: http://www.mcm-muenchen.com/ Couple of RCGroups threads: Oleg's Day 1 Recap http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10217854&postcount=7 Mike Seid's Day 1 Recap: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10219469&postcount=12 More reports and photos: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=898686 FlyQuiet UK Thread: http://www.flyquiet.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1201.0 See y'all tomorrow in Muncie! Ben ___ Soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.louisvillesoaring.org/mailman/listinfo/soaring RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format