Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
At 06:35 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: snmip I'm going to have to make a way to get some more weight in that thing before Muncie. If I do that... there won't be any wind at all... D Please hurry. I hate flying in wind and a windless nats would be wonderful. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Just went to Sal's website and didn't see it. Even a search of his page gave no result. Whazzup? Jack Womack --- Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
I saw that plane fly last weekend and at Visalia. Its a really good flying plane. Seemed to me it really pulled hard on launch. Didnt see it land at SVSS but did at Visalia and it really does come in slow. Liked it so much I called NSP about a kit. To my surprise was told they dont make kits. Only RTF planes complete w/all JR electronics. I was quoted 1700.00. Not sure why its only offered RTF/all electronics??? I guess subtracting say 650.00 for gear/install that would put the plane around 1050.00. Will probably still buy one someday but really would rather build out my own plane with my own gear. None the less the plane flies very, very good. A two meter its certainly NOT, its big. Walter -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Just went to Sal's website and didn't see it. Even a search of his page gave no result. Whazzup? I think you guys are gonna have to call and bug him about it D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
I believe these are different models... here are some pictures from last years Nats of Daryl's Insanity 3.7 http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02235.htm http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02236.htm At 02:40 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I believe these are different models... here are some pictures from last years Nats of Daryl's Insanity 3.7 http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02235.htm http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02236.htm At 02:40 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Maybe the same then... really big, right? (hard to tell from the photo) 8-) BTW, if you guys want a model built for you Dave does an EXCELLENT job! At 03:12 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I believe these are different models... here are some pictures from last years Nats of Daryl's Insanity 3.7 http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02235.htm http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02236.htm At 02:40 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Gordy bashing is probably more fun... I'll second that!!! Jack Womack --- Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
DP is the connoisseur of paint schemes for sailplanes. I could see him flying that Zebra stripe paint scheme... that really looks good on his model. 8-)) At 03:12 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
(Of course this comment is made by a guy who flies the infamous Barney paint scheme!) heh heh heh heh heh 8-) Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
BTW, guys, just to set the record straight, I like wild paint schemes if you haven't figured that out yet. And DP discusses this with me quite a bit... 8-) especially on the flight line just before I am going to fly. He gets me and my timer laughing so hard, we can barely fly. That's where my comments are coming from, it's all in good spirit and fun! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple! As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea. http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpg Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal/building?
Hey guys, took a PTO ( personal time off ) day from work today to make a four day weekend and do some flying with our elder club members. The air was turbulent and some welcomed thunderstorms, with free water from the sky, cut our session short, bummer!? Had a 20+ minute flight with an altitude of 1400' AGL and decided to abort due to lightning in the area. This was documented on my RAM. Anyhow, we here in Texas are coming into our second building season. With temps in the 100's and humidity over 50% one has to be crazy to be outside after noon. I want to build an new technology back up for my Eraser, don't want a RTF. The old Sapphire with the Sage wings is good, but she is long in the tooth. What would you recommend for TD? Keep in mind we have conditions where we regularly fly in winds above 10 MPH and it needs to be a sturdy contest hog. BTW, Daryl we would like to see you back at the TNT again sometime, enjoyed having you here a few years back. We now fly it a South Fork Ranch, no JR doesn't try to steal our ladies, but it is a challenging site to fly. Some of us think it mirrors UT Dallas where we were flying when you were here. Mark W. - Original Message - From: Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I saw that plane fly last weekend and at Visalia. Its a really good flying plane. Seemed to me it really pulled hard on launch. Didnt see it land at SVSS but did at Visalia and it really does come in slow. Liked it so much I called NSP about a kit. To my surprise was told they dont make kits. Only RTF planes complete w/all JR electronics. I was quoted 1700.00. Not sure why its only offered RTF/all electronics??? I guess subtracting say 650.00 for gear/install that would put the plane around 1050.00. Will probably still buy one someday but really would rather build out my own plane with my own gear. None the less the plane flies very, very good. A two meter its certainly NOT, its big. Walter -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Barney Zebra!8-) At 01:14 PM 7/1/2005, Jon Stone wrote: Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple! As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea. http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpg Jon Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/797sup/jo_sup_el.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/826sup/launch_landing_sup.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/786supelectro/throw_sup_electro.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/789impx/jojo_throw_27458F3J_2004_Canada_14.jpgBut I do agree that to have a good and simple paint scheme is important.Actually you will see most Czech pilots fly two very different colorstips/midsection http://www.f3j.com/images/czech_ch_02.jpgAnd the Sharon and Space Pro is very often delivered with one stripe underonly one tip (8-10inches wide)Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no- Original Message -From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri Jul 1, 2005 8:14 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Email Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple!As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea.http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpgJon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Yep... kind of remember an ugly cobra green with I think it was yellow spots. Now as ugly as it was... it was a cool looking as it gets... it was different... until DP decided he didn't like the spots... then he confettied it... BOOOM Then it really got UGLY. James V. Bacus wrote: DP is the connoisseur of paint schemes for sailplanes. I could see him flying that Zebra stripe paint scheme... that really looks good on his model. 8-)) At 03:12 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
JoJo already uses the Barney Zebra scheme... 8-) At 01:57 PM 7/1/2005, Jo Grini wrote: Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Don't fly it into a heard of Zebra~ ;-) Looks good! Anybody got a firm price on it? That looks like my next year model... Don -Original Message- From: D Hauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 2:40 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Jo and others... I don't fly my plane upside down...why should it really matter what the top looks like? I think the bottom is most important. I've seen neon green/orange looking quite black from a 1/4 mile away trying to get back to make the landing. There just isn't enough surface area for my tired eyes to make out colors...especially profile views. What color Jo are those Czech pilots using on the bottom of their wings? Don -Original Message- From: Jo Grini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:57 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/797sup/jo_sup_el.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/826sup/launch_landing_sup.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/786supelectro/throw_sup_electro.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/789impx/jojo_throw_27458F3J_2004_Canad a_14.jpgBut I do agree that to have a good and simple paint scheme is important.Actually you will see most Czech pilots fly two very different colorstips/midsection http://www.f3j.com/images/czech_ch_02.jpgAnd the Sharon and Space Pro is very often delivered with one stripe underonly one tip (8-10inches wide)Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no- Original Message -From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri Jul 1, 2005 8:14 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Email Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple!As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea.http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpgJon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Something opposite. Preferably dark colors and yes differrent tips/midsection there too. My comment on the Sharon was only about bottoms. A green plane against a forrest will in some conditions almost dissapear. This might be important in some fields coming in for landing low... Flying F3B in 150km/h turning fast on A-base just 20m in front of you with a treeline in the back might be easier if you have a scheme you know well. Especially if you do something wrong and have to do a correction. But true. On far distance most colors look black. Thats why I dont have any problem with zebra. But I will not choose green/red zebra next time. Rather white/red as the blur coming past me or the treeline formes a better color for my eyes.. Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no - Original Message - From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: RE: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Jo and others... I don't fly my plane upside down...why should it really matter what the top looks like? I think the bottom is most important. I've seen neon green/orange looking quite black from a 1/4 mile away trying to get back to make the landing. There just isn't enough surface area for my tired eyes to make out colors...especially profile views. What color Jo are those Czech pilots using on the bottom of their wings? Don -Original Message- From: Jo Grini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:57 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/797sup/jo_sup_el.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/826sup/launch_landing_sup.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/786supelectro/throw_sup_electro.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/789impx/jojo_throw_27458F3J_2004_Canad a_14.jpgBut I do agree that to have a good and simple paint scheme is important.Actually you will see most Czech pilots fly two very different colorstips/midsection http://www.f3j.com/images/czech_ch_02.jpgAnd the Sharon and Space Pro is very often delivered with one stripe underonly one tip (8-10inches wide)Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no- Original Message -From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri Jul 1, 2005 8:14 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Email Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple!As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea.http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpgJon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Daryl Perkins wrote: Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format DP let me fly it at Visalia last year. Incredibly low approach speeds with outstanding tracking and rudder response on final. I meant to ask you Daryl how it fared with the HIGH winds last weekend? Obviously quite well. Ballasted? Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
1700.00 w/all gear installed. That is what NSP quoted me. Said no kits were offered, only complete RTF planes. -Original Message- From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Don't fly it into a heard of Zebra~ ;-) Looks good! Anybody got a firm price on it? That looks like my next year model... Don -Original Message- From: D Hauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 2:40 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Sorry everyone. I didn't expect this to happen. Thanks for your patience. Dave asked I meant to ask you Daryl how it fared with the HIGH winds last weekend? Obviously quite well. Ballasted? I didn't weigh the ballast I put in it, but I suspect it was between 12 ounces and a pound. I didn't expect it would be nearly enough. I didn't think I'd be able to get around, because even with 16 extra ounces in it, it only raises the loading maybe 1 to 1 1/2 ounces/ft. (Sorry, don't feel like doing the math). I don't think there was enough ballast on the field for that day but it did pretty well. A little weight almost transforms the model. I don't like flying light models, but I do like landing light modelsa... the compromise. On this day, landing light models was a handful too. I could have used another pound or two. I'm going to have to make a way to get some more weight in that thing before Muncie. If I do that... there won't be any wind at all... D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
On Jul 1, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Daryl Perkins wrote: A lovely write-up about the new Insanity. (good name) Question: is that a 4 or 6 servo wing? Has Joe released any of the JW series of airfoil coordinates yet to the unwashed masses? Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
it's a 4 servo wing. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Yahoo soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal On Jul 1, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Daryl Perkins wrote: A lovely write-up about the new Insanity. (good name) Question: is that a 4 or 6 servo wing? Has Joe released any of the JW series of airfoil coordinates yet to the unwashed masses? Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
