[RCSE] RCGroups withdrawals and signal to noise ratio...

2005-02-27 Thread Jay Decker
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Courtice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My own primary soaring interest is slope. The slope forum on R/C Groups
 is hands down the best on the net. Lot's of new posts everyday, with
 detailed build threads, construction techniques, photos, videos, site
 information, etc.

I agree. However, the signal to noise ratio has slipped significantly last 
year... which makes me wonder where the next good place to hangout on the net 
for good content will be? Or, maybe they administrators and moderators will 
find a way to redirect of the chit-chat...
 
 
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Re: [RCSE] RCGroups withdrawals and signal to noise ratio...

2005-02-27 Thread Doug McLaren
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 04:15:52PM -0800, Jay Decker wrote:

| I agree. However, the signal to noise ratio has slipped
| significantly last year... which makes me wonder where the next good
| place to hangout on the net for good content will be? Or, maybe they
| administrators and moderators will find a way to redirect of the
| chit-chat...

I'm still very fond of rec.models.rc.air and rec.models.rc.soaring,
and they're pretty much immune to downtime due to maintenance and
such, though it does seem that fewer and fewer people are
participating, having gone to the web forums instead.
(rec.models.rc.soaring is already pretty much dead, but
rec.models.rc.air still has some life.)

Which is very sad.  I still prefer the Usenet format for discussions
of this nature (though mailing lists like this one work OK, but not
quite as well) as the interface is completely under my control, I
don't need to click on things, no advertisements, etc. ... but I guess
eventually I'll have to go where the people are :)


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Re: [RCSE] RCGroups withdrawals and signal to noise ratio...

2005-02-27 Thread Steve Lange
Jay Decker wrote:
I agree. However, the signal to noise ratio has slipped significantly
last year... which makes me wonder where the next good place to
hangout on the net for good content will be? Or, maybe they
administrators and moderators will find a way to redirect of the
chit-chat...
As one of the most prolific posters in the Slope forum, I have to take 
at least partial responsibility for the rise of noise in that forum.

However, in my defense, I also contribute a hell of a lot of signal in 
the form of videos, photos, flying reports, event summaries, and build 
threads.

I suggest that those complaining about the signal:noise ratio on 
RCGroups get to work generating some signal. Otherwise it's just more noise.

Steve
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Re: [RCSE] RCGroups withdrawals and signal to noise ratio...

2005-02-27 Thread Jay Decker
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I suggest that those complaining about the signal:noise ratio on 
 RCGroups get to work generating some signal. Otherwise it's just more noise.

Steve I appologize if my comment offended you. When people exchange opinions, 
their views will sometimes clash.

It is my opinion that if the signal to noise ratio is not addressed, 
eventually, some folks will stop reading and contributing, e.g., providing 
Rodent dimensions to your Open Source Rodent thread. There will be so much 
chit-chat in the subject forums to comb through it will not be worth their time.


 
 
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Re: [RCSE] RCGroups withdrawals and signal to noise ratio...

2005-02-27 Thread Steve Lange
Jay Decker wrote:
Steve I appologize if my comment offended you. When people exchange
opinions, their views will sometimes clash.
It is my opinion that if the signal to noise ratio is not addressed,
eventually, some folks will stop reading and contributing, e.g.,
providing Rodent dimensions to your Open Source Rodent thread. There
will be so much chit-chat in the subject forums to comb through it
will not be worth their time.
No worries Jay, I did not take personal offense in any way--in fact I 
completely agree with your analysis of the slippage on RCGroups. In all 
honesty, I'm definitely a big part of the problem with the noise in the 
Slope forum. It's one of my personal regrets, and I'm trying to address 
the issue (i.e. stay on topic more with my posts). I do truly appreciate 
your contribution to my Fauxdent effort--apologies if my message come 
off in any other way!

My response--which could surely have been worded better--was meant more 
as a general commentary on how to maintain quality in our online 
resources and definitely not as a personal attack against you. Please 
accept my apologies if it didn't read that way. I got hit in the head by 
a plane today and perhaps I'm not in my right--not to mention my 
RCGroups withdrawal symptoms kicking in (wish I was joking).

Anyways, my theory is that these resources will be as good as we make 
them. I know you do your part, I'm trying to make my contribution more 
substantial, and I thank everyone else who is doing the same. Hopefully 
a little self-policing on RCGroups can save the Slope forum, it's a nice 
place and it would be a shame to see it go completely to pot.

Steve
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