Re: [RCSE] Servo damage?

2001-02-22 Thread Rick Brown and Jill Wiest

About a year ago I had a problem with some HS-205MG Hitec servos, or so
I thought!

On landing they would seem to find a new center. I would retrim and
center them and the next hard, flap dragging landing would have them out
of whack again. I though something was moving/slipping internally in the
servos.

The problem was actually my fault. I had replaced the stock servo horns
with Futaba brand horns, what I though was the same fit to the splines
on the output shaft of the Hitec servos. It was in fact just slightly
oversized. It held up fine to normal flight loads and seemed fine when
putting pressure on them by hand, but on hard landings where I didn't
get the flaps up quick enough it would jump a position and end up out of
center.

After finding the problem I replaced the horns with stock Hitec horns
and have had no problems since.

Check that the horns are not moving on the spline under extreme shock
loads like when dragging the flaps on landing.

RB



Tom Seitz wrote:
 
 After a fairly hard landing, I noticed that both of my flaps remained
 deflected several degrees when I returned them back to neutral.  I seems
 something internal to the servos has permanently moved the neutral
 location.  The servos seem to work fine, no slop or noise.  Should I
 just subtrim them and not worry, or has some damage been done?  The
 servos are Multiplex mcv2 digitals.
 
 Tom Seitz
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Re: [RCSE] Servo damage?

2001-02-22 Thread Stephen Syrotiak

Keep landing like that.  You've got servo savers. ;)

Regards
-- 
Stephen Syrotiak
Southern Connecticut
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Re: [RCSE] Servo damage?

2001-02-22 Thread Brett Jaffee

No kidding...I wonder if a "system" like that would be reliable in a slope combat 
plane!

Stephen Syrotiak wrote:

 Keep landing like that.  You've got servo savers. ;)

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 --
 Stephen Syrotiak
 Southern Connecticut
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[RCSE] Servo damage? Just wondering :-)

2001-02-22 Thread GordySoar
Why did you go the RCSE instead of contacting Karlton at MPX first?
That's rhetorical, as in doesn't deserve an answer!

Just wondering though, as you can see you got a bunch of useless specualtion 
from some nice guys hoping to find SOMETHING to reply to. But inspite of 
that, fairly often guys while post a question to the RSCE for speculation, 
when the could have gotten a real answer from the supplier.

Someone like you, who can afford that kind of quality deserves better than 
speculation :-)

Karlton is the man, the source. He'd know, and if you have a problem only HE 
can actually do anything about it. Oh, yeah he's a really good guy too.

Gordy
70 in Tampa today
Working on my excuses, er I mean resons for the results of this weekends 
contest results.


Re: [RCSE] Servo damage? Just wondering :-)

2001-02-22 Thread David Cole

Sorry Gordy, but I have to disagree.  There is no more way for Karlton
to know whether his servos moved or his linkages came loose or bent
versus whether the servo(s) have sustained damage (unless he takes them
out and mails them in).  The guys gave him some good suggestions of
things to check -- no sense sending the servos back to multiplex if the
problem is elsewhere.  Seems a bit critical to call the suggestions he
got "useless" since they made perfect sense.  And Karlton IS synonymous
with RCSE in my book -- it's a sure bet he will be one of the people to
respond to a multiplex question, so by posting here he got feedback from
Karlton AND some other smart folks

Sorry I didn't make it out to the SLNT contest Sunday -- hope you had
fun.  Good luck in Orlando, sounds like they are ready for you!  Have
fun.

David Cole
Fort Worth, Texas
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Why did you go the RCSE instead of contacting Karlton at MPX first?
That's rhetorical, as in doesn't deserve an answer!

Just wondering though, as you can see you got a bunch of useless
specualtion
from some nice guys hoping to find SOMETHING to reply to.  But inspite
of
that, fairly often guys while post a question to the RSCE for
speculation,
when the could have gotten a real answer from the supplier.

Someone like you, who can afford that kind of quality deserves better
than
speculation :-)

Karlton is the man, the source.  He'd know, and if you have a problem
only HE
can actually do anything about it. Oh, yeah he's a really good guy too.

Gordy
70 in Tampa today
Working on my excuses, er I mean resons for the results of this weekends
contest results.

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Re: [RCSE] Servo damage? Just wondering :-)

2001-02-22 Thread Karlton Spindle

Well if the servos work and show no signs of gear damage.  Then something
moved!
first look at what could have moved or compressed.. Like hinge tape or
links.

BUT I would check the servos if they moved more then a little;
To check the servos in the plane first before going to more aggressive
measures. Start with taking the linkage off the servo arm while the radio is
off and moving the servo through its range of motion SLOWLY feeling the arm
for any skips or binding in the gears. If a skip or a bind is felt change
gears..  If your worried at all send them in we have a very lonely service
tech even the Maytag guy thinks he is a boor.

How hard did you land?

Smooth Sailing,
Karlton Spindle
http://www.MultiplexRC.com
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Servo damage? Just wondering :-)


 Sorry Gordy, but I have to disagree.  There is no more way for Karlton
 to know whether his servos moved or his linkages came loose or bent
 versus whether the servo(s) have sustained damage (unless he takes them
 out and mails them in).  The guys gave him some good suggestions of
 things to check -- no sense sending the servos back to multiplex if the
 problem is elsewhere.  Seems a bit critical to call the suggestions he
 got "useless" since they made perfect sense.  And Karlton IS synonymous
 with RCSE in my book -- it's a sure bet he will be one of the people to
 respond to a multiplex question, so by posting here he got feedback from
 Karlton AND some other smart folks

 Sorry I didn't make it out to the SLNT contest Sunday -- hope you had
 fun.  Good luck in Orlando, sounds like they are ready for you!  Have
 fun.

 David Cole
 Fort Worth, Texas



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Re: [RCSE] Servo damage? Just wondering :-)

2001-02-22 Thread Karlton Spindle

BTW with a MCV2 you will strip the servo horn spline before the case or the
gear goes.  Check the servo horn..


Smooth Sailing,
Karlton Spindle
http://www.MultiplexRC.com

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