Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Gentlemen, I have the sailplane version, and as it comes out of the box. there are two 3 position switches on the top face of the radio Tx. One is directly above the left stick and the other is directly above the right stick. I chose to swap locations of the Left 3 position switch over to the far left top face where one of the dual rate switches is located. I use the 3 position switch for three different flight modes and don't want to fumble my fingers around the flap/spoiler stick while looking up at my glider. It is an easy swap to make. My friend also has a sailplane version and is OK with switch locations as it comes out of the box. Marc Gellart has the helicopter version which has a 3 position switch located on the upper top left corner like a Stylus or Vision. He says it was easy for him to program to his desired functions. We all like our JR 9303's very much. Coming from Airtronics radios, I did have a learning curve to get through, but it's worth learning for me. I think if you are jumping up from one of the earlier JR Radio versions, you will be familiar with the programming language and methods. Should be able to adapt you knowledge easily. You can't get any better field support then Horizon Hobbies offers. They have dedicated sailplane flyers employed who travel to many events and they will bend over backwards to meet your needs. They also support a number glider events each year. How can it get any better then that?? It's a no brainer. Go with JR and reap all the benefits. Mike Remus LOFT Glider Club Fort Wayne IN LSF Level 5 #112 Remember; Think small. Big ideas upset others! On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:46:48 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Jon, I have the so called airplane version and the center switch on > the left hand upper front panel is a three position switch and I was > under the impression on the sailplane version that switch was only a > two position switch. > > I could be wrong. Does any one out there know if there is this > difference or not ? > > Regards, Dave Corven. > > > > Dave, > > > > Are you sure? My understanding is the airplane and sailplane > versions have the > > same switch layout, but different labels printed under them. > > > > > http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2659859/anchors_2659859/mpage_1/key_930 3%252Cs > > witch/anchor/tm.htm#2659859 > > > > I understood that the heli version had different switch layout. > > > > http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2371121/tm.htm > > > > > > > Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the > airplane > > > version. I believe the software is the same but I like the > switch setup on the > > > upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with > the 3 > > position > > > switch that comes with the airplane setup. > > > > > > I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches > right now, but > > down > > > the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes > after launching. > > > Speed, cruise and thermal. > > > > > > JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request > them. > > > > > > Regards. Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
The best switch setup is to slightly moddify the radio and move the Elevator dual rate switch to the right front panel (where the thermal/cruise/speed switch is located), move the launch/cruise/land switch one place to the left( where the elev d/r switch was) and rotate it 180 degrees, and move the thermal/cruise/speed switchh (that you took out in the first step) over to the remaining hole to (the right of the launch/cruise/land switch). This will let you operate all of the flight modes with your left thumb. There are instructions (in pdf format) with many pictures on how to do this at www.rcsoaring.com under documents and tips - JR9303 Sailplane Switch Modifications. It taks around 45 minutes, a small soldering iron, and a 6" piece of hookup wire to do the modification. -Original Message- From: Harley Michaelis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:37 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303?? Guys. . .excuse my simple inquiry, but with all the frustrations I had with the 8103, I'm reluctant to take the plunge on the 9303. Nevertheless, I must do something pronto about a brand new Tx and have no time to read extensive manuals and fuss with elaborate programming. Would those of you who have the 9303 that has ailerons and elevator on the right stick and throttle and rudder on the left, please tell me this: Will it be a simple programming matter to operate the two flaps to full down on the throttle stick and have elevator compensation? Will the throttle trim tab then effect both flaps? Can I bypass flipping any switches? Is it simple to get rudder mixed in with ailerons? Is it easy to program for Dual Rates on elevator and ailerons? What kind of running time are you getting on the standard battery pack? That's all I need to fly the Genie, the LT/S or the Genie Pro. The other things can come later. I have no time now to deal with them. have rudder mixed in with ailerons. Question. Will the throttle trim tab then move both flaps?remain The other stuff can come later. Would it be a simple and sure programming procedure to do those things??? Also, does the radio allow independent programming for throw and neutrals of each aileron.of each aileron? (1) use the throttle stick to move both flaps to the full down positioonindependently get each flap to a full down position on the throttle stick? (2) Would the throttle trim tab be functional to simultaneously effect up or down movement of both flaps? (2) dial in down elevator compensation with down flaps? (3) independently program each aileron for throws and differential? (4) Mix rudder in with ailerons? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Jon, I have the so called airplane version and the center switch on the left hand upper front panel is a three position switch and I was under the impression on the sailplane version that switch was only a two position switch. I could be wrong. Does any one out there know if there is this difference or not ? Regards, Dave Corven. > Dave, > > Are you sure? My understanding is the airplane and sailplane versions have > the > same switch layout, but different labels printed under them. > > http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2659859/anchors_2659859/mpage_1/key_9303%252Cs > witch/anchor/tm.htm#2659859 > > I understood that the heli version had different switch layout. > > http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2371121/tm.htm > > Jon > > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jim Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Harley Michaelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:17 AM > Subject: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303?? > > > > Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the airplane > > version. I believe the software is the same but I like the switch setup on > > the > > upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with the 3 > position > > switch that comes with the airplane setup. > > > > I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches right now, but > down > > the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes after > > launching. > > Speed, cruise and thermal. > > > > JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request them. > > > > Regards. Dave Corven. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME > turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are > generally NOT in text format > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Dave, Are you sure? My understanding is the airplane and sailplane versions have the same switch layout, but different labels printed under them. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2659859/anchors_2659859/mpage_1/key_9303%252Cswitch/anchor/tm.htm#2659859 I understood that the heli version had different switch layout. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2371121/tm.htm Jon - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Harley Michaelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303?? > Harley, before you buy 9303 sailplane version take a look at the airplane > version. I believe the software is the same but I like the switch setup on > the > upper left panel for the airplane version. more flexability with the 3 > position > switch that comes with the airplane setup. > > I know you said you didn't want to be bothered with switches right now, but > down > the road maybe. I use that switch to get three flight modes after launching. > Speed, cruise and thermal. > > JR will give you all three manuals for the 9303 if you request them. > > Regards. Dave Corven. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Harley: 1) Yes, super simple to put flaps on the throttle stick with elevator compensation. Just follow the tutorial step by step. Super simple. Not sure about trimming flaps with the throttle trim tab. Never bothered to check as there is a dedicated digital flap trim on the radio now. And no, no flipping switches is necessary to get into landing mode. 2) Yes, simple to program rudder->aileron mix. There is a dedicated mix for that. Dual rates are also simple. 3) Can't say about the battery pack. It was about like the 8103. In any case, I switched to a NoBS 2100mAh NiMh pack. Lasts two days of heavy flying. 4) Programming your Genie will be simple. No need for a user guide like Sherman's one for the 8103. Just crack open the manual that comes with the 9303, go through the step by step tutorial for setting up a sailplane and you'll get it. I programmed my Icon in about an hour. It's a great radio. Be sure you get the sailplane version. Good Luck! --Jim Laurel On Apr 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Harley Michaelis wrote: Guys. . .excuse my simple inquiry, but with all the frustrations I had with the 8103, I'm reluctant to take the plunge on the 9303. Nevertheless, I must do something pronto about a brand new Tx and have no time to read extensive manuals and fuss with elaborate programming. Would those of you who have the 9303 that has ailerons and elevator on the right stick and throttle and rudder on the left, please tell me this: Will it be a simple programming matter to operate the two flaps to full down on the throttle stick and have elevator compensation? Will the throttle trim tab then effect both flaps? Can I bypass flipping any switches? Is it simple to get rudder mixed in with ailerons? Is it easy to program for Dual Rates on elevator and ailerons? What kind of running time are you getting on the standard battery pack? That's all I need to fly the Genie, the LT/S or the Genie Pro. The other things can come later. I have no time now to deal with them. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
Harley, The email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is bouncing.. Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Can I. . .with the 9303??
> Will it be a simple programming matter to operate the two > flaps to full down > on the throttle stick and have elevator compensation? Yes, very easy, straightforward, and covered in the manual. The manual includes a step-by-step programming guide for TD planes. > Will the throttle trim tab then effect both flaps? Throttle (spoiler) trim is recommended disabled for TD. There are two separate digital trim tabs for the wing servos. One adjusts both flaps up & down. The other adjusts both ailerons as flaperons (i.e. both up or both down). Oh, the normal aileron trim tab adjusts the aileron servos as you might expect. > Can I bypass flipping any switches? Not sure what you mean. If you mean, do you have to throw a switch to enable landing mode. No you do not. You have a choice to set up landing flaps with crow and elevator compensation, so it is active in all flight modes. You don't have to use flight modes, if you desire. > Is it simple to get rudder mixed in with ailerons? Yes. There is a predefined mix called AIL->RUD M >Is it easy to program for > Dual Rates on elevator and ailerons? Yes, predefined and straightforward. > What kind of running time are you getting on the standard > battery pack? Don't know, never ran mine down. 600 mah is standard, and manual says 200 mah current draw. Theoritically 2+ hours with plenty of safety margin. > That's all I need to fly the Genie, the LT/S or the Genie > Pro. The other > things can come later. I have no time now to deal with them. If you have owned the 8103, I expect you will find this one a big improvement. John Derstine wrote up an excellent overview of the radio. Good photos of the menus, which you might find helpful. http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/9303.htm Jon Stone RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
