RE: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
Michael: You are certainly right about the fact that we do have some of the not great weather, which is why I put (relatively speaking) behind the great weather statement. So here is a clue direct from the weatherman...San Diego does have some hot and humid days, with an (very) occasional thunderstorm in the months of late July and August. And it has a rainy season during the first three months of the year. Hey, Michael...365 days of the same weather would be like being in Seattle:) P.S. We love those guys from the SASS group. They are our most dedicated group from outside California. So here is a clue of when to come to San Diego...the first full weekend in June. Oh! And while you are here, bring a HLG and have a great time competing in the IHLGF -- the most fun and flying time you can have in R/C Soaring. Ron Ron Scharck, Registrar IHLGF 2005 6005 Hidden Valley Road, Ste. 200 San Diego, CA 92009 Direct - 760-496-7987 E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:04 PM To: Ron Scharck Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply One other thing Ron. You do a good job of promoting the event. And the Nats suffers from just the opposite on the weather. There were many years when soaring was stuck in the last week of July. By the last week in July, Muncie is usually hot and humid. Of course, every time I have been to San Diego, I have managed to get some of the not great weather. It's just not right to get hot and humid and thunderstorms in San Diego. Ron Scharck wrote: Steve: It really isn't fair to compare the NATS HLG event to the IHLGF. They are two entirely different cats. I use to attend the NATS on a regular basis, competing in most of the events, and I loved every single one of them. The LSF guys do a great job (in cooperation with AMA) of putting on a host of soaring events, most of which are very demanding from a personnel standpoint; and they only have a week to in which to cram all those events. I know that I am not telling you, or anyone else who reads this and has actually been to the Soaring NATS, anything new. In real estate, something I have a passing knowledge of, the three key words are: LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The IHLGF has that in spades. When someone plans to come to the IHLGF, they can be assured of four things which few other locations can boast...and they all have to do with being located in Southern California: 1. Great weather, relatively speaking; 2. Great flying conditions (if you don't mind a dirt field); 3. A large contingent of very talented pilots; and, 4. One of the top tourist destinations in the world. In all of the years (12) the IHLGF has been held, there has only been two delays of starting the contest on time. Both had to do with an early morning misting. There has always been 6 rounds flown on Saturday and seven (including the fly-offs) rounds flown on Sunday. Those are the basic reasons why the IHLGF has been able to be as successful as it has been. Just the dumb luck of being in the right place at the right time! Ron Ron Scharck, Registrar IHLGF 2005 6005 Hidden Valley Road, Ste. 200 San Diego, CA 92009 Direct - 760-496-7987 E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:59 PM To: Ron Scharck Cc: Lex Mierop; 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply The sad part is, the NATS will be lucky to get 22 from not much more than 9 states for HLG. Steve SOAR LSF IV At 08:44 PM 6/8/2005, Ron Scharck wrote: Lex: You left out a couple of countries that added to the cosmopolitan atmosphere of the IHLGF; France and Taiwan. Altogether we had 94 registered pilots at the IHLGF 2005 representing seven countries and 15 states. Not bad for a hand launch glider contest. We will get ol' Jim down here one of these days:) Ron -Original Message- From: Lex Mierop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R
Re: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
Steve, In my opinion the low attendance for the NATS HL is not because of location. It is mostly because it is a one day event. HL is quite a bit different than the other soaring classes in that it does not have as much cross over. Most people in this country are resource limited. They have a limited amount of time or money to devote to RC soaring. So, they have to pick one event and for many it is HL. For example, in the ESL's HL division this year I expect there to be upwards of 50 participants. Of those 50, I estimate that 30 or more are primarily focused on HL. Some will come from as far away as Canada, Florida, and Kentucky to participate. All of the HL contests in the ESL are 2 days which makes it worth the trip. I believe the same trend is true in other parts of the country. I know that there is a group in the North West that only flies HL (where DLG started). So, for these HL dedicated pilots, it is not worth it for them to travel to the NATS for a one day event. I know that if HL was all I flew, I certainly would not drive 7 hours for a one day contest. I would gladly drive the 7 hours for a well run two day contest (after all, I recently got back from flying across the country for a two day HL contest). From what I have observed at HL contests I believe that other HL competitors would make the same judgment. It is unfortunate that the LSF has elected to only have a one day HL event at the NATS. I estimate that if it was two day event, there would be on the order of at least 50 entrants. The LSF would benefit from the increased revenue. There would possibly be the added benefit of generating interest in HL fliers with the other soaring disciplines. I can easily picture some of the HL pilots sticking around to watch F3J and getting hooked. After all in this country there are not many opportunities to see an F3J event. That was one aspect I really enjoyed about the old NATS format (not that I think we should go back - the LSF format is s much better with regards to soaring) - seeing all the other modeling disciplines. CL combat was my favorite. . . For what its worth Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
Actually what I wanted to do was go to the JR Aero tow. I had the joy of being on Jury Duty the past two weeks. Fortunately I had vacation plans for the Nats and F3j TS so when they asked if there would be any hardship on serving on a case that was expected to run well into August, 4 days a week, soaring saved the day! Hopefully I'll make the Aerotow next year. I have the 1:2.9 Foka that I just don't get enough flying on and a 1:3 Salto and 1:4 B4 that also need some flying time. Ron Scharck wrote: Michael: So here is a clue of when to come to San Diego...the first full weekend in June. Oh! And while you are here, bring a HLG and have a great time competing in the IHLGF -- the most fun and flying time you can have in R/C Soaring. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
Steve: It really isn't fair to compare the NATS HLG event to the IHLGF. They are two entirely different cats. I use to attend the NATS on a regular basis, competing in most of the events, and I loved every single one of them. The LSF guys do a great job (in cooperation with AMA) of putting on a host of soaring events, most of which are very demanding from a personnel standpoint; and they only have a week to in which to cram all those events. I know that I am not telling you, or anyone else who reads this and has actually been to the Soaring NATS, anything new. In real estate, something I have a passing knowledge of, the three key words are: LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The IHLGF has that in spades. When someone plans to come to the IHLGF, they can be assured of four things which few other locations can boast...and they all have to do with being located in Southern California: 1. Great weather, relatively speaking; 2. Great flying conditions (if you don't mind a dirt field); 3. A large contingent of very talented pilots; and, 4. One of the top tourist destinations in the world. In all of the years (12) the IHLGF has been held, there has only been two delays of starting the contest on time. Both had to do with an early morning misting. There has always been 6 rounds flown on Saturday and seven (including the fly-offs) rounds flown on Sunday. Those are the basic reasons why the IHLGF has been able to be as successful as it has been. Just the dumb luck of being in the right place at the right time! Ron Ron Scharck, Registrar IHLGF 2005 6005 Hidden Valley Road, Ste. 200 San Diego, CA 92009 Direct - 760-496-7987 E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:59 PM To: Ron Scharck Cc: Lex Mierop; 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply The sad part is, the NATS will be lucky to get 22 from not much more than 9 states for HLG. Steve SOAR LSF IV At 08:44 PM 6/8/2005, Ron Scharck wrote: Lex: You left out a couple of countries that added to the cosmopolitan atmosphere of the IHLGF; France and Taiwan. Altogether we had 94 registered pilots at the IHLGF 2005 representing seven countries and 15 states. Not bad for a hand launch glider contest. We will get ol' Jim down here one of these days:) Ron -Original Message- From: Lex Mierop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
One other thing Ron. You do a good job of promoting the event. And the Nats suffers from just the opposite on the weather. There were many years when soaring was stuck in the last week of July. By the last week in July, Muncie is usually hot and humid. Of course, every time I have been to San Diego, I have managed to get some of the not great weather. It's just not right to get hot and humid and thunderstorms in San Diego. Ron Scharck wrote: Steve: It really isn't fair to compare the NATS HLG event to the IHLGF. They are two entirely different cats. I use to attend the NATS on a regular basis, competing in most of the events, and I loved every single one of them. The LSF guys do a great job (in cooperation with AMA) of putting on a host of soaring events, most of which are very demanding from a personnel standpoint; and they only have a week to in which to cram all those events. I know that I am not telling you, or anyone else who reads this and has actually been to the Soaring NATS, anything new. In real estate, something I have a passing knowledge of, the three key words are: LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The IHLGF has that in spades. When someone plans to come to the IHLGF, they can be assured of four things which few other locations can boast...and they all have to do with being located in Southern California: 1. Great weather, relatively speaking; 2. Great flying conditions (if you don't mind a dirt field); 3. A large contingent of very talented pilots; and, 4. One of the top tourist destinations in the world. In all of the years (12) the IHLGF has been held, there has only been two delays of starting the contest on time. Both had to do with an early morning misting. There has always been 6 rounds flown on Saturday and seven (including the fly-offs) rounds flown on Sunday. Those are the basic reasons why the IHLGF has been able to be as successful as it has been. Just the dumb luck of being in the right place at the right time! Ron Ron Scharck, Registrar IHLGF 2005 6005 Hidden Valley Road, Ste. 200 San Diego, CA 92009 Direct - 760-496-7987 E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:59 PM To: Ron Scharck Cc: Lex Mierop; 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply The sad part is, the NATS will be lucky to get 22 from not much more than 9 states for HLG. Steve SOAR LSF IV At 08:44 PM 6/8/2005, Ron Scharck wrote: Lex: You left out a couple of countries that added to the cosmopolitan atmosphere of the IHLGF; France and Taiwan. Altogether we had 94 registered pilots at the IHLGF 2005 representing seven countries and 15 states. Not bad for a hand launch glider contest. We will get ol' Jim down here one of these days:) Ron -Original Message- From: Lex Mierop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Shows that you've never been to the IHLGF. We had Englanders and Brazilians, Japanese Kiwis. Also Yankees, Good ol' Southern Boys, Texans, Midwesterners and them funny guys from north of here that don't seem to know what that big yellow thing is in the sky... :-) :-) :-) -l -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:57 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aero tow Reply Nice write up Jack, there was a guy from Canada as well. And of course the two guys from Japan doing the video show. I would say it was the most cosmopolitan event I have ever been to. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply
Ron, That really does put into perspective. In the past 4 years (or something) of doing HL at the NATS only one year we did not have either severe thunderstorms, driving cold rain, or 20+ mph winds. Sometimes we had all three. And here I thought it was the Marc Gellart curse. :-) I'm in the wrong state... California Dreaming Steve Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 08:57 PM 6/9/2005, Ron Scharck wrote: Steve: It really isn't fair to compare the NATS HLG event to the IHLGF. They are two entirely different cats. I use to attend the NATS on a regular basis, competing in most of the events, and I loved every single one of them. The LSF guys do a great job (in cooperation with AMA) of putting on a host of soaring events, most of which are very demanding from a personnel standpoint; and they only have a week to in which to cram all those events. I know that I am not telling you, or anyone else who reads this and has actually been to the Soaring NATS, anything new. In real estate, something I have a passing knowledge of, the three key words are: LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The IHLGF has that in spades. When someone plans to come to the IHLGF, they can be assured of four things which few other locations can boast...and they all have to do with being located in Southern California: 1. Great weather, relatively speaking; 2. Great flying conditions (if you don't mind a dirt field); 3. A large contingent of very talented pilots; and, 4. One of the top tourist destinations in the world. In all of the years (12) the IHLGF has been held, there has only been two delays of starting the contest on time. Both had to do with an early morning misting. There has always been 6 rounds flown on Saturday and seven (including the fly-offs) rounds flown on Sunday. Those are the basic reasons why the IHLGF has been able to be as successful as it has been. Just the dumb luck of being in the right place at the right time! Ron Ron Scharck, Registrar IHLGF 2005 6005 Hidden Valley Road, Ste. 200 San Diego, CA 92009 Direct - 760-496-7987 E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:59 PM To: Ron Scharck Cc: Lex Mierop; 'James V. Bacus'; soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Contest Cosmo WAS: JR Aero tow Reply The sad part is, the NATS will be lucky to get 22 from not much more than 9 states for HLG. Steve SOAR LSF IV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
