RE: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-11-11 Thread Erica and or Rob
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Cliff Lindgren wrote:
>  Yes, I believe there was some
> chatter regarding banning foam gliders from flying simultaneously with the
> expensive glass gliders.  Most folks will exercise respect and courtesy when
> the two are in the same airspace by landing.

Hey now,
It sure is nice when they do, too bad we can't get it to "all".

>  Others with no regard or
> through pure ignorance usually will not have a clue and continue flying on.
> I have heard that some have found that a sharp little tap on the head with a
> tire iron usually has the desired effect on these individuals.

Yes, a little gentle persuasion often helps.

>  But..there
> is always the thick skulled where nothing seemingly works.  They are
> hopelessly beyond reasoning with and are just to dunce.  There are other
> methods I have heard used on these individuals with limited success, that I
> won't elaborate on, via this forum.

Uh huh, My favorite big lift model is a custom "U-2" built by Leegun
James. It was the first carbon bagged wing he built. As lead sleds go it's
a floater, but it was built to lawn dart and goes through foamies like a
hot knife through butter:-0
The foamie flyers who don't get the idea of sharing the air often learn
after they get speared. At my home slope in Pacifica so far it's U-2 6,
foamies 0. Folks there have plenty of respect for glass slipers now...
RobII

*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Erica Frank & Rob Carter II
"Roast dragon, fried dragon, dragon steak, dragon cassarole, baked
dragon-in-onions, dragon omelette, dragon stew, dragon-on-a-stick--
next time I kill a rabbit, period." --St. George

RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.  Send "subscribe" and 
"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please note that subscribe and 
unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.  
Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in 
text format


Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-11-11 Thread ctoutol
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Scott Hewett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I recall an incident at Soar Utah 2002 whereby some bozo flying an 
> out-of-control
foamy took out a pristine scratch built fiberglass airliner.
> Has Soar Utah put any rules into effect that will prevent future incidents of 
> that sort,
such as banning foamies?  Can anyone provide more details of that incident?
> Thanks
>

I had heard of that event.  The  person who recalled it to me (he was certainly 
there) said
that Brian knew the risks a took his chances.  There was a twinkle of pride in 
having a
custom plane paint mark on his foamie. There could be a hill dedicated to such 
stubborn,
narrow minded, thick skulled people.  Perhaps a club that caters to this niche 
of our
hobby.  It could be promoted as an exclusive private club, lacking any 
accomplished pilots
or pristine planes.  A re-kitters retreat so to speak.



RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.  Send "subscribe" and 
"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please note that subscribe and 
unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.  
Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in 
text format


Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-11-11 Thread Craig Toutolmin
I had heard of that event.  The  person who recalled it to me (he was certainly there) said that Brian knew the risks a took his chances.  There was a twinkle of pride in having a custom plane paint mark on his foamie. There could be a hill dedicated to such stubborn, narrow minded, thick skulled people.  Perhaps a club that caters to this niche of our hobby.  It could be promoted as an exclusive private club, lacking any accomplished pilots or pristine planes.  A re-kitters retreat so to speak.


On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Cliff Lindgren wrote:

Hi Scott,
Yes I was there.  Of course that is old news and I’m sure all parties involved have resolved the issue….I think.  Yes, I believe there was some chatter regarding banning foam gliders from flying simultaneously with the expensive glass gliders.  Most folks will exercise respect and courtesy when the two are in the same airspace by landing.  Others with no regard or through pure ignorance usually will not have a clue and continue flying on.  I have heard that some have found that a sharp little tap on the head with a tire iron usually has the desired effect on these individuals.  But……there is always the thick skulled where nothing seemingly works.  They are hopelessly beyond reasoning with and are just to dunce.  There are other methods I have heard used on these individuals with limited success, that I won’t elaborate on, via this forum.
Hope this helps you.
Cliff Lindgren
 

From: Scott Hewett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:23 AM
To: "Cliff Lindgren"
Subject: Fw: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers
 
 
- Original Message -
From: Scott Hewett 
To: soaring@airage.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:20 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers
 
I recall an incident at Soar Utah 2002 whereby some bozo flying an out-of-control foamy took out a pristine scratch built fiberglass airliner.
Has Soar Utah put any rules into effect that will prevent future incidents of that sort, such as banning foamies?  Can anyone provide more details of that incident?
Thanks


RE: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-11-11 Thread Cliff Lindgren








Hi Scott, 

Yes I was there.  Of
course that is old news and I’m sure all parties involved have resolved
the issue….I think.  Yes, I believe there was some chatter regarding
banning foam gliders from flying simultaneously with the expensive glass
gliders.  Most folks will exercise respect and courtesy when the two are
in the same airspace by landing.  Others with no regard or through pure
ignorance usually will not have a clue and continue flying on.  I have heard
that some have found that a sharp little tap on the head with a tire iron
usually has the desired effect on these individuals.  But……there
is always the thick skulled where nothing seemingly works.  They are
hopelessly beyond reasoning with and are just to dunce.  There are other
methods I have heard used on these individuals with limited success, that I won’t
elaborate on, via this forum.

Hope this helps you.

Cliff Lindgren

 









From: Scott Hewett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005
7:23 AM
To: "Cliff Lindgren"
Subject: Fw: [RCSE] Foamies versus
Glass Slippers



 



 





- Original Message - 



From: Scott Hewett 





To: soaring@airage.com






Sent: Wednesday, October
12, 2005 7:20 AM





Subject: [RCSE] Foamies
versus Glass Slippers







 





I recall an incident at Soar Utah 2002 whereby some bozo
flying an out-of-control foamy took out a pristine scratch built fiberglass
airliner.





Has Soar Utah put any rules into effect that will prevent
future incidents of that sort, such as banning foamies?  Can anyone
provide more details of that incident?





Thanks










Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-10-12 Thread glider1218
This is fantastic!  How absolutely right on target!
Cheers!!Noel Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Vince -Its OK, he'll be asking people to ban cars next; since so many people crash them each day... Oh, and let's see - gotta ban alcohol, because people drink themselves to death with it Don't forget to ban guns because people might hurt each other with them... And we gotta ban VCRs, since people violate copyright law when they use it to duplicate recordings... Now pens are questionable, since they do so much for society; BUT, since you can hurt someone by poking them in the eye with it, I think that in the end, pens should be banned, too *SIGH*--Noel(Personal Responsibility Advocate)P.S. I'm not trying to declare any suppport or resistance to the ideas above - just point out how human behavior can be a BIG FACTOR in how objects are used.- Original Message - From: "Vince Herman"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:01 AMSubject: Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers> ?!?>> Would it make a lot more sense to ban the> out-of-control pilot?>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
		 Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.

Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-10-12 Thread Noel Wade

Vince -

Its OK, he'll be asking people to ban cars next; since so many people crash 
them each day...  Oh, and let's see - gotta ban alcohol, because people 
drink themselves to death with it  Don't forget to ban guns because 
people might hurt each other with them...  And we gotta ban VCRs, since 
people violate copyright law when they use it to duplicate recordings... 
Now pens are questionable, since they do so much for society; BUT, since you 
can hurt someone by poking them in the eye with it, I think that in the end, 
pens should be banned, too  *SIGH*


--Noel
(Personal Responsibility Advocate)

P.S.  I'm not trying to declare any suppport or resistance to the ideas 
above - just point out how human behavior can be a BIG FACTOR in how objects 
are used.



- Original Message - 
From: "Vince Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers



?!?

Would it make a lot more sense to ban the
out-of-control pilot?



RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.  Send "subscribe" and 
"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe 
messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.  Email sent from web based email 
such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format


Re: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers

2005-10-12 Thread Vince Herman
?!?

Would it make a lot more sense to ban the
out-of-control pilot?

--- Scott Hewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recall an incident at Soar Utah 2002 whereby some
> bozo flying an out-of-control foamy took out a
> pristine scratch built fiberglass airliner.
> Has Soar Utah put any rules into effect that will
> prevent future incidents of that sort, such as
> banning foamies?  Can anyone provide more details of
> that incident?
> Thanks


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.  Send "subscribe" and 
"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please note that subscribe and 
unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.  
Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in 
text format