RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
Irony is: folks bashing Microsoft and Windows CE, and then saying Don't be rude. Let's be clear - Windows CE is the base operating system on any Pocket PC device (iPaq, etc.), but PocketPC is far more than simply Windows CE. Windows CE, by itself, is pretty stable. Put some crappy applications on top of it (or any operating system), and you're set up for disaster. I'd say that you would need to give the transmitter a try before judgments are made regarding Windows CE. I think that folks will be pleasantly surprised with it. - Dave -Original Message- From: Martin Usher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 23:57 To: Soaring Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? I don't have a particular fondness for the Vole or its CE operating system but it'll probably work just fine since we're not planning to run additional software on the system (are we?). The two processors are almost certainly an ARM to drive the display and whatever Futaba's using in its current radios. Its not meaningful to talk about 'multiple processors', the things are so cheap anyway that it doesn't make sense to combine the functions (especially as the Futaba processor could do anything up to and including synthesize the radio signal). I like the display -- a decent display has been long overdue on these radios. I'd be concerned about breaking it, though (and it won't be cheap to replace). They seem to be using a reflective liquid crystal as well, the sort that may have a rather narrow viewing angle and a dislike of getting hot (as in I left it on the field in the sun while I was sorting out the winch and when I got back to it the dislpay was unreadable). There are better display technologies out there -- I think the organic LED might be the one that's the most robust but its too new to be in something like this. Maybe this is truly a solution looking for a problem? After all, we don't need the display when flying and we could just as easily program the thing using an external computer, even using something as small as a PDA. Martin Usher PS. I like the Palm OS. Its quite capable of running a radio, it'll do a lot more than two channels (don't be rude). I use both it and CE -- CE is flashy but it does a relatively poor job compared to palm (you only have to look at the new HP iPAQ, the $600 one, to see what I mean -- it looks really good, and its a major letdown when you try to do anything with it). I currently have a Nexio to play with -- a 5 screen, a $1200 price tag, a battery life that's insufficient (and it runs down when the system is not in use, losing useful settings in the process). Palms are not as flashy but they're more functional, IMO. Neither are suitable for an embedded system like a radio, though -- there are much better systems out there for that. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
This is going to be a fantastic radio. I've got one coming and hope for a January deliver. Darwin N. Barrie Team Futaba - Original Message - From: Lex Mierop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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I wonder what you do when the infamous blue screen of death appears on the display? :-p At 12:38 PM 12/9/2004, Lex Mierop wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jim Prouty UAV Systems Engineer IntelliTech Microsystems, Inc. www.vectorp.com PH: (301) 860-0825 Fax: (301) 860-0823 Proprietary Information: This communication contains information proprietary to IntelliTech Microsystems, Inc. and is not to be disclosed or distributed beyond the intended recipients without written authorization. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this transmission. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Isn't WinCE related to the OS that runs in current Pocket PC's? I hope they've got all the bugs worked out on that one, my Pocket PC crashes, freezes, resets, and does all sorts of nasty things. I'd hate to see the blue screen of death on my TX while flying a $1000 glider. .. brian r. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, December 9, 2004, someone wrote all this stuff: This is going to be a fantastic radio. I've got one coming and hope for a January deliver. Darwin N. Barrie Team Futaba - Original Message - From: Lex Mierop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
If you read the fine print on the web page under Duel Internal Processors - the Futaba processor deals with flight control functions, and setup and programming is handled by CE - Original Message - From: brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Isn't WinCE related to the OS that runs in current Pocket PC's? I hope they've got all the bugs worked out on that one, my Pocket PC crashes, freezes, resets, and does all sorts of nasty things. I'd hate to see the blue screen of death on my TX while flying a $1000 glider. .. brian r. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, December 9, 2004, someone wrote all this stuff: This is going to be a fantastic radio. I've got one coming and hope for a January deliver. Darwin N. Barrie Team Futaba - Original Message - From: Lex Mierop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
Also from the web site: a.. The 14MZ will have dual internal processors! One uses the Windows CE operating system and functions as the brain for the 14MZs operating, communications, and programming functions. The other is a Custom Futaba Processor that will manage all of its flying functions. a.. Why is Futaba using two processors? To ensure that neither the Windows CE operating system nor the Custom Futaba Processor will bog down. This improves the efficiency of the flying functions as well as the operating, communications, and programming functions. - Original Message - From: brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Isn't WinCE related to the OS that runs in current Pocket PC's? I hope they've got all the bugs worked out on that one, my Pocket PC crashes, freezes, resets, and does all sorts of nasty things. I'd hate to see the blue screen of death on my TX while flying a $1000 glider. .. brian r. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, December 9, 2004, someone wrote all this stuff: This is going to be a fantastic radio. I've got one coming and hope for a January deliver. Darwin N. Barrie Team Futaba - Original Message - From: Lex Mierop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
I wondered how this would take to show up here. This has been discussed on other lists and forums for a couple of months now. Let me make some comments. First, Windows CE ONLY runs the GUI and does NOT run the actual flight processor. That is a propriety Futaba processor, just like what is in use now. The CF cards are only used to store data and are not involved in running the flight program. That runs off the internal processor (not the Window one). I have not seen voce recognition. What it does have is an audio file player (MP3-ish) that can accept up to 24 prompts. So for the aerobatic guys they can upload an audio file with their aerobatic sequence and use a switch to cue up to 24 different snippets of sound. The player can also play music for the Freestyle guys to practice to. It also allows up to 14 servos to be plugged into the RX and then to be independently adjusted for centering and end points. Plus you can tell the RX that the servos on channels 1 and 2 are the left aileron, 3 4 are the right aileron, 5 6 are the spoilers, 6 7 are the flaps (thinking scale glider here) and so on. It also ahs a synthesized frequency module. You select your channel on the TX and when you power up it tells the RX what channel it is on. As you noted the switches are moveable and anything can be assigned to any switch, lever, slider, or stick (much like the 9Z can now). Yes, it is around $2,200 for the TX and RX. The JR 10X is $1500 and the 9Z is $1300 for TX only. Add a couple of hundred for RXs and the differential becomes about $500 for the 10X and $700 for the 9Z. Given that the 10X is a dedicated airplane or helicopter radio and does NOT have glider programming in it (I know it can be programmed for gliders, but even JR says it is not really a glider radio) this is a good deal. The 9Z has 5 fewer channels total and 6 fewer full proportional channels (channel 9 is essentially an analog channel on the 9Z). Add to that the fact that the 14MZ is 2048 PCM and you are getting some incredible resolution as well. Frankly for normal TD stuff it is likely super overkill. However, for giant scale sailplanes and the 35% to 45% aerobatic planes, it is going to be simply killer. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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If they're really Duel processors - perhaps they are really for fight control? -Original Message- From: Russ Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:06 AM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? If you read the fine print on the web page under Duel Internal Processors - the Futaba processor deals with flight control functions, and setup and programming is handled by CE This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Darn it, I have been using a 10x for years now and those JR guys never told me that. 8-) At 12:08 PM 12/9/2004, Bill Malvey wrote: Given that the 10X is a dedicated airplane or helicopter radio and does NOT have glider programming in it (I know it can be programmed for gliders, but even JR says it is not really a glider radio) this is a good deal. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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On 12/9/04 10:50 James V. Bacus wrote: Darn it, I have been using a 10x for years now and those JR guys never told me that. 8-) Didn't say it couldn't do it, just saying they really did not intend for it to do it. Otherwise they would have made it easier to do it.!! ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Saying that is like saying a MPX 4000 is not a glider radio. These are not template based programmed radios, so you have to roll you own mixes. No biggie for some of us, others may want a 9303. The 10x is a fine radio for our application, solid as a rock, and has been very successful for me. At 01:00 PM 12/9/2004, Bill Malvey wrote: Didn't say it couldn't do it, just saying they really did not intend for it to do it. Otherwise they would have made it easier to do it.!! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com I just can't wait to get my hand on one for my RES! Since it has the computer stuff in it, I wonder if I can get one from Dell or Fry's!! And the price should drop like a rock in 6 months if it follows the current trend of computer pricing. Does it has a 100% rebate coupon? Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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There is very little chance that I would choose to fly anything using M$ software. Hm, Blue Screen of Crash michael N6CHV Lex Mierop wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Then how could you possibly be winning when you've been using a radio that is not really a glider radio??? Huh??? Must be cheatin' or sumpthin'...Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! G -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Darn it, I have been using a 10x for years now and those JR guys never told me that. 8-) At 12:08 PM 12/9/2004, Bill Malvey wrote: Given that the 10X is a dedicated airplane or helicopter radio and does NOT have glider programming in it (I know it can be programmed for gliders, but even JR says it is not really a glider radio) this is a good deal. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! G My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas of the sky! 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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At 2:05 PM -0600 12/9/04, James V. Bacus wrote: At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! G My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas of the sky! 8-) I had one of those timers once, then I married someone else! Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Yeah, a good timer will do that. The biggest problem with the new brand F radio is that it comes from Futaba. I'll support them when they support RC soaring. happy trails -- RobG At 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! G My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas of the sky! 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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thank you !! --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- Yeah, a good timer will do that. The biggest problem with the new brand F radio is that it comes from Futaba. I'll support them when they support RC soaring. happy trails -- RobGAt 01:57 PM 12/9/2004, Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Or maybe you're buyin' off your timers with brews??? Which is it???...Time to come clean Dude!!! My timers punch hard, verbally abuse me, scream, yell and generally scare me into the correct areas of the sky! 8-)Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Just complexity on top of the same functionality? This is new era - from Jeff Raskin, creator of the Macintosh computer and master of Humane [Human] interface devices: http://humane.sourceforge.net/published/transmitter.html On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:38:05 -0800, Lex Mierop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k -l RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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For the extra $$ over a regular radio, you can go to Fry's and get a nice laptop instead. Where is the cell phone function so you can call Futaba for user support at the field? Brian Chan wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com I just can't wait to get my hand on one for my RES! Since it has the computer stuff in it, I wonder if I can get one from Dell or Fry's!! And the price should drop like a rock in 6 months if it follows the current trend of computer pricing. Does it has a 100% rebate coupon? Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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At 5:56 PM -0500 12/9/04, Michael Lachowski wrote: For the extra $$ over a regular radio, you can go to Fry's and get a nice laptop instead. Where is the cell phone function so you can call Futaba for user support at the field? Brian Chan wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com The 14MZ probably has wireless comm, it will send a signal to Futaba while you are in trouble. Brian -- -- * Brian Chan, * AFDD Instrumentation Group, US Army Research Support * Ames Research Center, Mail Stop-215-2, * Bldg 215 Room 120 * Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 * 650-604-0389 FAX 650-604-5173 * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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The 14MZ probably has wireless comm, it will send a signal to Futaba while you are in trouble. I can see the warning screen now :) Your transmitter has just recovered from a serious error. To send a copy of this error report to Futaba and Microsoft click O.K. Jared Quoting Brian Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 5:56 PM -0500 12/9/04, Michael Lachowski wrote: For the extra $$ over a regular radio, you can go to Fry's and get a nice laptop instead. Where is the cell phone function so you can call Futaba for user support at the field? Brian Chan wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com The 14MZ probably has wireless comm, it will send a signal to Futaba while you are in trouble. Brian -- -- * Brian Chan, * AFDD Instrumentation Group, US Army Research Support * Ames Research Center, Mail Stop-215-2, * Bldg 215 Room 120 * Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 * 650-604-0389 FAX 650-604-5173 * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Yes, and after you read the realtime Futaba advertising, it will be followed by... Fresh young teens want you now, click here to find out more and still more Viagra, percodan, cialis, delivered to your door. Discount pharmacy. I can see the warning screen now :) Your transmitter has just recovered from a serious error. To send a copy of this error report to Futaba and Microsoft click O.K. Jared RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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And how about that battery life... providing nearly 3 hours of flight time. -charles RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Lex Mierop wrote: Futaba has gone off the deep end. Check it out here: http://www.14mz.com Windows CE with touch screen input. Li-ion battery and a radio that uses consumer grade flash memory cards. It does voice recognition for up to 24 commands. (Say I ain't got it and it can automagically go into full crow mode) All sorts of interesting possibilities there. Switches can be customized, just by pulling them out and putting new ones in. $2k Yeah, I'm sure I want to trust a model to Windows! Adds a whole new meaning to BSD! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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-Original Message- From: George Gillburg Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? Yeah, I'm sure I want to trust a model to Windows! Adds a whole new meaning to BSD! WindowsCE is very stable. It could have been worse. They could have used the Palm OS. Then we would have a 2 channel radio with no servo reversing and non replaceable substandard batteries. Wiggle your sticks David Judson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
I don't have a particular fondness for the Vole or its CE operating system but it'll probably work just fine since we're not planning to run additional software on the system (are we?). The two processors are almost certainly an ARM to drive the display and whatever Futaba's using in its current radios. Its not meaningful to talk about 'multiple processors', the things are so cheap anyway that it doesn't make sense to combine the functions (especially as the Futaba processor could do anything up to and including synthesize the radio signal). I like the display -- a decent display has been long overdue on these radios. I'd be concerned about breaking it, though (and it won't be cheap to replace). They seem to be using a reflective liquid crystal as well, the sort that may have a rather narrow viewing angle and a dislike of getting hot (as in I left it on the field in the sun while I was sorting out the winch and when I got back to it the dislpay was unreadable). There are better display technologies out there -- I think the organic LED might be the one that's the most robust but its too new to be in something like this. Maybe this is truly a solution looking for a problem? After all, we don't need the display when flying and we could just as easily program the thing using an external computer, even using something as small as a PDA. Martin Usher PS. I like the Palm OS. Its quite capable of running a radio, it'll do a lot more than two channels (don't be rude). I use both it and CE -- CE is flashy but it does a relatively poor job compared to palm (you only have to look at the new HP iPAQ, the $600 one, to see what I mean -- it looks really good, and its a major letdown when you try to do anything with it). I currently have a Nexio to play with -- a 5 screen, a $1200 price tag, a battery life that's insufficient (and it runs down when the system is not in use, losing useful settings in the process). Palms are not as flashy but they're more functional, IMO. Neither are suitable for an embedded system like a radio, though -- there are much better systems out there for that. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
