Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity
Yep 6V winch motor run at 12 V -- that's the way to get the best 6 V launch height. There are some 6V motors that would wreck just about any plane -- even run at 6 volts. Not sure what voltage actually has to do with it. Some guys can launch great or some can botch a launch on any type of winch. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Erickson Cc: Soaring List Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity Why must people take these simple ideas and suggest that the result might end up at an unacceptable level? John, 6 Volt Launch Heights ??? When we talk about balancing winch torque with a #300 lb line, I am pretty sure we are outside of the 6 volt launch realm... Darwin, Chico, and Rick won't have any 'splainin to do Lucy.. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, December 23, 2007 2:34 pm To: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring List soaring@airage.com Or the set up at Visalia. Very few line breaks considering how many launches they go through on a weekend. All this resistance talk is good from a technical point of view, but for the guys at the Southwest Classic they may have a marketing issue on their hands. Travel hundreds of miles, spend money staying here and look forward to 6v launch heights. Guaranteed fewer line breaks. I hope Chico and company have a good welcoming speech! I'm considering taking along a smaller plane that might launch higher. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: RCGroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:19:00 -0600 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity One other thought. The winch setup at the Nats was excellent with regard to reliability and uniformity. In addition, I did not find the winches so powerful that they blew my hair back (at least what's left of it).Perhaps someone who was responsible for the set up of these winches would like to comment on the setup and what went into setting them up. Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789230 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.7/1194 - Release Date: 12/23/2007 5:27 PM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity
Or the set up at Visalia. Very few line breaks considering how many launches they go through on a weekend. All this resistance talk is good from a technical point of view, but for the guys at the Southwest Classic they may have a marketing issue on their hands. Travel hundreds of miles, spend money staying here and look forward to 6v launch heights. Guaranteed fewer line breaks. I hope Chico and company have a good welcoming speech! I'm considering taking along a smaller plane that might launch higher. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: RCGroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:19:00 -0600 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity One other thought. The winch setup at the Nats was excellent with regard to reliability and uniformity. In addition, I did not find the winches so powerful that they blew my hair back (at least what's left of it).Perhaps someone who was responsible for the set up of these winches would like to comment on the setup and what went into setting them up. Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789230 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity
We are not locked into the limited winches. Rick is making some and we will test them. I don't think you'll get a reduced launch, you'll just have to do right. Yesterday we ran 400lb line with a 300lb (half the length) leader. We launched everything from Perfects to 2 meters with great success. With a light head wind I did a couple of full pedal type launches and a couple tap ups with full pedal zooms. I was unable to stall the winch. Trust me, if it won't launch my plane, it will be changed:)) DArwin - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity Or the set up at Visalia. Very few line breaks considering how many launches they go through on a weekend. All this resistance talk is good from a technical point of view, but for the guys at the Southwest Classic they may have a marketing issue on their hands. Travel hundreds of miles, spend money staying here and look forward to 6v launch heights. Guaranteed fewer line breaks. I hope Chico and company have a good welcoming speech! I'm considering taking along a smaller plane that might launch higher. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: RCGroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:19:00 -0600 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity One other thought. The winch setup at the Nats was excellent with regard to reliability and uniformity. In addition, I did not find the winches so powerful that they blew my hair back (at least what's left of it).Perhaps someone who was responsible for the set up of these winches would like to comment on the setup and what went into setting them up. Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789230 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity
Don, I noticed at the beginning of unlimited that almost all of the line was off the drum, therefore we were launching with approx a 2 dia. drum - was much more easy to control and modulate the launch. On a related note, the previous years' masters advertised short lines - ( read larger drum dia. ) I wonder if this, coupled with the high winds lead to some of the carnage . Ron Mong - Original Message - From: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity One other thought. The winch setup at the Nats was excellent with regard to reliability and uniformity. In addition, I did not find the winches so powerful that they blew my hair back (at least what's left of it).Perhaps someone who was responsible for the set up of these winches would like to comment on the setup and what went into setting them up. Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789230 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity
Why must people take these simple ideas and suggest that the result might end up at an unacceptable level? John, "6 Volt Launch Heights" ??? When we talk about balancing winch torque with a #300 lb line,I am pretty sure we are outside of the 6 volt launch realm... Darwin, Chico, and Rick won't have any 'splainin to do Lucy.. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Launching SanityFrom: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sun, December 23, 2007 2:34 pmTo: dharban [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring Listsoaring@airage.comOr the set up at Visalia. Very few line breaks considering how manylaunches they go through on a weekend.All this resistance talk is good from a technical point of view, but for theguys at the Southwest Classic they may have a marketing issue on theirhands. "Travel hundreds of miles, spend money staying here and look forwardto 6v launch heights. Guaranteed fewer line breaks".I hope Chico and company have a good welcoming speech! I'm consideringtaking along a smaller plane that might launch higher.JE--Erickson ArchitectsJohn R. Erickson, AIA From: dharban dharban.320qwn@rcgroups.com Organization: RCGroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:19:00 -0600 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Launching Sanity One other thought. The winch setup at the Nats was excellent with regard to reliability and uniformity. In addition, I did not find the winches so powerful that they blew my hair back (at least what's left of it).Perhaps someone who was responsible for the set up of these winches would like to comment on the setup and what went into setting them up. Don -- dharban dharban's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=31927 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789230 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text formatRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
