Re: [RCSE] potential frequency problems

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Usher

Big rigs are known to regularly use 100+ watt linears to Boost their 27 Mh
CBs (snip) (Wayne Walker)

Doing this is illegal, although this won't stop people from using these
power amplifiers because they know they're unlikely to be caught (this sort
of thing isn't very high on the FCC's enforcement priorities).

Legalities aside, the problem with that kind of setup is that the burner
is likely to be imperfect so they'll be generating appreciable amounts of
out-of-band energy and they're unlikely to have adequate filtering on the
antenna side to supress it. The whole setup won't be very efficient --
that's why those users feel they need an amplifier in the first place,
they'll want the maximum and they won't be sophisticated or responsible
enough to ask themselves where all that extra energy's going to.

Radio amateurs are interested in finding illegal transmitters because
they're concerned that rouge users will unfairly tarnish their
imagemaybe contacting them and asking for help would be useful.

Martin Usher

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Re: [RCSE] potential frequency problems

2003-06-23 Thread Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech
While we're on the subject of radio interference from high-powered 
electrical devices, I have a related question.

We have two horses. Both of them are BIG (one Clydesdale, one 
Belgian-Clydesdale). Savannah, our Belgian-Clydesdale (she looks similar to 
Big John in the Tim Allen - Kirstie Alley movie For Richer or for 
Poorer) is extremely intelligent, as is typical of draft breeds. A little 
TOO intelligent. In the winter when the grass is scarce, she's quite adept 
at finding the weak spots in any fence. She walks down mesh fence, figures 
out how to defeat barbed wire, and can go under a chest-high hi-tensile 
wire, or even between two hi-tensile wires (one higher and one lower). 
She's bigger and stronger than a Volkswagen, and extremely clever and 
resourceful, better in that category than most dogs I've worked with.

In the interest of keeping her from wandering the neighborhood roads in the 
wee hours of some icy winter morning, I'm getting ready to install our last 
resort, an electric fence (pretty powerful one too, strong enough to stop a 
really big horse).

However, I fly quite a bit in the back yard and in the pastures, around, 
across and over where the electric fence will be, with all sorts of radios 
including some ultra-micro single conversion radios.

Does anyone have any actual experience with flying in close proximity to an 
electric fence? What sort of interference can I expect from it, and if 
there are problems, are there any solutions short of turning it off while 
I'm flying? Savannah is smart enough to figure out if the sight of one of 
my toys overhead means the fence is shut down.

Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech
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Re: [RCSE] potential frequency problems

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Lachowski
Pagers do use the frequencies in between our frequencies.  About all you 
can do is monitor them and complain if they are off-frequency.  My local 
field had one that was a little off-frequency for a while.  It would 
cause problems.  A real pain to figure out since they don't always 
transmit. You just get hit from time to time.

Wayne Walker wrote:
I was recently hit with a CB rig on Ch 30.
I was too close to a big rig and apparently got swamped by him. Big rigs 
are known to regularly use 100+ watt linears to Boost their 27 Mh CBs'
 
Our field in San Diego ran several tests and found that pagers on ch 
28-29, 23-24, 11-12, 50-51, 54-55.
See below for more info.
 
SkyWalker
 
http://www.sefsd.org/club_info/frequency.htm

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Re: [RCSE] potential frequency problems

2003-06-23 Thread Bill Johns
At 09:18 PM 6/23/2003 -0400, Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech wrote:

Does anyone have any actual experience with flying in close proximity to 
an electric fence? What sort of interference can I expect from it, and if 
there are problems, are there any solutions short of turning it off while 
I'm flying? Savannah is smart enough to figure out if the sight of one of 
my toys overhead means the fence is shut down.
Not exactly the same thing, but I've flown next to or close to high tension 
wires many times.  I've wondered about doing that but I've never had any 
problems I would call interference of any sort.

Bill

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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice
there is.
Bill Johns
Pullman, WA
USA
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RE: [RCSE] potential frequency problems

2003-06-22 Thread Wayne Walker



I was recently hit 
with a CB rig on Ch 30.
I was too close to a 
big rig and apparently got swamped by him. Big rigs are known to regularly use 
100+ watt linears to Boost their 27 Mh CBs'

Our field in San 
Diego ran several tests and found that pagers on ch 28-29, 23-24, 11-12, 50-51, 
54-55.
See below for more 
info.

SkyWalker

http://www.sefsd.org/club_info/frequency.htm

  -Original Message-From: Steve Gibson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 3:06 
  PMTo: rc Soaring ExchangeSubject: [RCSE] potential 
  frequency problems
  Of the approved airborne frequencies, are there 
  any channels whereinterference with other transmitting devises 
  may be a problem?
  
  For instance, I have heard that CB radios can 
  cause a problem on some of the lower R/C channels. Is this true 
  ?
  Thanks, 
  Steve G