Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow date
Jim, You are correct, June 1-4, not sure what happened to John's note, but that is what I have on the calendar. Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR Aerotow date
Sorry for my error. It is May31st through June 4th. JD -Original Message- From: Jim Deck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 1/23/2006 4:20 PM To: RCSE Cc: Subject: [RCSE] JR Aerotow date I thought that the JR aerotow event in Illinois was in June sometime. Is the date different this year? Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow Photos
Deal. Can you make our aerotow? BTW - All the pictures of me look like I'm participating in some bizarre Sailplane Stations of the Cross tableau. Lee - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow Photos OK Lee, you better watch out when I have a camera in hand... (I don't know why, but they asked Jimbo and I to take our hats off while getting photographed, I see no one else got asked to do it that way. It might be some sort of initiation thing or something...) 8-) Thanks to all the JR people that put this disk together, wonderful memories. At 03:25 PM 8/24/2005, Lee Estingoy wrote: JR may wish to implement a dress code for those wearing JR Red; hats should be mandatory. :) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow Photos
OK Lee, you better watch out when I have a camera in hand... (I don't know why, but they asked Jimbo and I to take our hats off while getting photographed, I see no one else got asked to do it that way. It might be some sort of initiation thing or something...) 8-) Thanks to all the JR people that put this disk together, wonderful memories. At 03:25 PM 8/24/2005, Lee Estingoy wrote: JR may wish to implement a dress code for those wearing JR Red; hats should be mandatory. :) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Looked like fun. How does one make a MOV play at twice the size? A little small at 1280x1024. Steve At 10:29 PM 6/6/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: I downloaded the digital video off of my Sony handycam onto my Mac and played around with iMovieHD for a few hours and here is what I mixed together from the JR Aerotow flightline. I still may make a few more videos with other shots I caught... 8-) http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/JR_Aerotow_2005/JR_Aerotow_2005.mov (25mb quicktime movie, 4'53 in duration) Enjoy! At 03:32 PM 6/5/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: Picture Gallery is now online at: http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/JR_Aerotow_2005/index.html At 11:46 PM 6/4/2005, you wrote: WOW. Dudes, this was too cool. Just got back from two solid days of flying. I have a lot of photos and video, but I wanted to make a post this evening while I am fresh back from the event. TK and I arrived Fri. afternoon driving in from Chicago and there were A LOT of people there. I registered as pilot 50 at that time, and there were more after me. Busy flight line was the first thing that struck me, two tugs working hard and a nice line of sailplanes queued up for a tow. After registering and checking out the cool looking event T shirt and hat that was in the registration bag, I went on to socializing a bit in the pits. But the constant series of tows was just enticing me to fly. I built my DG 800s and walked it out to the flight line, Capn' Jack was all too eager to help me with another set of eyes. I got an excellent tow, Peter Goldsmith towed me up with his cub and let him take me up to clouds. I told him I was off, he replies... great Jim, I think my wings are freezing over 8-) Needless to say I flew that flight for awhile! 8-) I landed and Cliff Bryan was pulling his new ASH-26 out, so I followed him out to the flight line. I ended up being his second set of eyes, and Cliff got that bad boy hooked up and skied out. After flying around for a long period of time, he asked me if I wanted to try. 8-) What a wonderful model, Cliff wasn't in a rush for it back, but he did check the battery levels twice while I was flying, so it must have been a pretty long flight. Such a sweet model. Skip Miller was just pounding the cross country course all day long, I think he went over 26 miles. Then I wander back to the pits, see Capn' Jack over at the tents and he asks if I want to fly the Ventus 2AX. By this time the air at about 3:30-4pm is about the best its been all day, and I am like SURE! I'LL FLY IT. Jack let me fly it up the tug and I flew it for a long time, 40 minutes or longer, and then the ultimate TX who-ore himself, McCarthy couldn't take it any longer so he took the sticks, and he flew it for another 40 mins. Finally I pried his fingers from the pizza box and I got it back for some more, and then TK wandered by and he took it for a long flight, and then finally back to Jack, the last sailplane to land on Fri. I forgot the final launch count for the day, but the tugs went through 10 gallons of gas. Of course then all the electric fun fly stuff came out... and then over to a BBQ at John Diniz house for excellent food, drink, electric heli flying in the driveway, and John did a small jam session in his basement later while McCarthy tried to finish building the scale model he didn't quite get flying earlier in the day. Just more fun! Today was a windier, with more people in attendance, but less of the flying at anyone time. Only one tug worked the flight line constantly. I flew once in the morning when the wind was calmer, but decided to help work the flight line and snap pictures and video in between the chores. Paul Siegel and Steve Siebenaler flew over from Ohio in Paul's Super Cub to check out the action and really put in a nice landing on the grass strip. Flying continued non-stop all day long. Later in the day there was a raffle for 1:1 scale glider rides, and although I didn't win one, I have never been up in a glider so I bought a ride. What a HOOT! So I got to sit in the front seat of 2-33, did an aerotow, and even got to fly it awhile. Shot a lot of video up there, and got some of flying site from above, with little sailplanes and tugs flying beneath us. Now that tops off a great couple of days! 8-) Don't miss this event next year, apparently it has really grown, now in its 3rd year. This is my first, and I really regret missing the first two. Pix and video tomorrow. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Steve Meyer wrote: How does one make a MOV play at twice the size? A little small at 1280x1024. On Windows Ctrl-2 is double size and Ctrl-3 fills the screen. Arne RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR Aerotow prompts a question
Another biased opinion, aren't they all? Clarification. The JR aerotow is not just a sponsored event by JR, as in donating gifts prizes, and support. It is an entirely funded, planned, and organized event fully staffed by JR employees, team flyers, and volunteer friends of JR. Peter and Caroline Goldsmith need to be credited with the enlisting of Horizon hobbies considerable wherewithal to produce this premier program. It is their love of scale soaring which drives the event, coupled of course with Horizons desire to product placement, promotion, and advertising, which is what horizon gets in return for their considerable backing and support, It would be nice if other manufacturers would support the soaring segment as does JR/Horizon, but they don't to date. It is intelligent marketing to a fast growing segment. On the field with planes, support, and expertise one on one with the participants. Listening to comments and customer needs and desires; Everyone wins. John D. Sorry to have missed this one. Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jon Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:40 AM To: Jim Deck; RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow prompts a question - Original Message - From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR/Horizon has raised it's profile to the soaring community in recent years, and this is good. JR also sponsors some soaring events around the country. Most notably in their own back yard (Midwest). Most significant to me, they have tailored their products specifically to soaring pilots. Oh, and those pictures filled with red JR polo shirts don't hurt either. ;) Finally, there are folks who post about these events to this list. Jon Stone RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow prompts a question
I seem to recall when Airtronics also sold aircraft... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
I downloaded the digital video off of my Sony handycam onto my Mac and played around with iMovieHD for a few hours and here is what I mixed together from the JR Aerotow flightline. I still may make a few more videos with other shots I caught... 8-) http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/JR_Aerotow_2005/JR_Aerotow_2005.mov (25mb quicktime movie, 4'53 in duration) Enjoy! At 03:32 PM 6/5/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: Picture Gallery is now online at: http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/JR_Aerotow_2005/index.html At 11:46 PM 6/4/2005, you wrote: WOW. Dudes, this was too cool. Just got back from two solid days of flying. I have a lot of photos and video, but I wanted to make a post this evening while I am fresh back from the event. TK and I arrived Fri. afternoon driving in from Chicago and there were A LOT of people there. I registered as pilot 50 at that time, and there were more after me. Busy flight line was the first thing that struck me, two tugs working hard and a nice line of sailplanes queued up for a tow. After registering and checking out the cool looking event T shirt and hat that was in the registration bag, I went on to socializing a bit in the pits. But the constant series of tows was just enticing me to fly. I built my DG 800s and walked it out to the flight line, Capn' Jack was all too eager to help me with another set of eyes. I got an excellent tow, Peter Goldsmith towed me up with his cub and let him take me up to clouds. I told him I was off, he replies... great Jim, I think my wings are freezing over 8-) Needless to say I flew that flight for awhile! 8-) I landed and Cliff Bryan was pulling his new ASH-26 out, so I followed him out to the flight line. I ended up being his second set of eyes, and Cliff got that bad boy hooked up and skied out. After flying around for a long period of time, he asked me if I wanted to try. 8-) What a wonderful model, Cliff wasn't in a rush for it back, but he did check the battery levels twice while I was flying, so it must have been a pretty long flight. Such a sweet model. Skip Miller was just pounding the cross country course all day long, I think he went over 26 miles. Then I wander back to the pits, see Capn' Jack over at the tents and he asks if I want to fly the Ventus 2AX. By this time the air at about 3:30-4pm is about the best its been all day, and I am like SURE! I'LL FLY IT. Jack let me fly it up the tug and I flew it for a long time, 40 minutes or longer, and then the ultimate TX who-ore himself, McCarthy couldn't take it any longer so he took the sticks, and he flew it for another 40 mins. Finally I pried his fingers from the pizza box and I got it back for some more, and then TK wandered by and he took it for a long flight, and then finally back to Jack, the last sailplane to land on Fri. I forgot the final launch count for the day, but the tugs went through 10 gallons of gas. Of course then all the electric fun fly stuff came out... and then over to a BBQ at John Diniz house for excellent food, drink, electric heli flying in the driveway, and John did a small jam session in his basement later while McCarthy tried to finish building the scale model he didn't quite get flying earlier in the day. Just more fun! Today was a windier, with more people in attendance, but less of the flying at anyone time. Only one tug worked the flight line constantly. I flew once in the morning when the wind was calmer, but decided to help work the flight line and snap pictures and video in between the chores. Paul Siegel and Steve Siebenaler flew over from Ohio in Paul's Super Cub to check out the action and really put in a nice landing on the grass strip. Flying continued non-stop all day long. Later in the day there was a raffle for 1:1 scale glider rides, and although I didn't win one, I have never been up in a glider so I bought a ride. What a HOOT! So I got to sit in the front seat of 2-33, did an aerotow, and even got to fly it awhile. Shot a lot of video up there, and got some of flying site from above, with little sailplanes and tugs flying beneath us. Now that tops off a great couple of days! 8-) Don't miss this event next year, apparently it has really grown, now in its 3rd year. This is my first, and I really regret missing the first two. Pix and video tomorrow. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Picture Gallery is now online at: http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/JR_Aerotow_2005/index.html At 11:46 PM 6/4/2005, you wrote: WOW. Dudes, this was too cool. Just got back from two solid days of flying. I have a lot of photos and video, but I wanted to make a post this evening while I am fresh back from the event. TK and I arrived Fri. afternoon driving in from Chicago and there were A LOT of people there. I registered as pilot 50 at that time, and there were more after me. Busy flight line was the first thing that struck me, two tugs working hard and a nice line of sailplanes queued up for a tow. After registering and checking out the cool looking event T shirt and hat that was in the registration bag, I went on to socializing a bit in the pits. But the constant series of tows was just enticing me to fly. I built my DG 800s and walked it out to the flight line, Capn' Jack was all too eager to help me with another set of eyes. I got an excellent tow, Peter Goldsmith towed me up with his cub and let him take me up to clouds. I told him I was off, he replies... great Jim, I think my wings are freezing over 8-) Needless to say I flew that flight for awhile! 8-) I landed and Cliff Bryan was pulling his new ASH-26 out, so I followed him out to the flight line. I ended up being his second set of eyes, and Cliff got that bad boy hooked up and skied out. After flying around for a long period of time, he asked me if I wanted to try. 8-) What a wonderful model, Cliff wasn't in a rush for it back, but he did check the battery levels twice while I was flying, so it must have been a pretty long flight. Such a sweet model. Skip Miller was just pounding the cross country course all day long, I think he went over 26 miles. Then I wander back to the pits, see Capn' Jack over at the tents and he asks if I want to fly the Ventus 2AX. By this time the air at about 3:30-4pm is about the best its been all day, and I am like SURE! I'LL FLY IT. Jack let me fly it up the tug and I flew it for a long time, 40 minutes or longer, and then the ultimate TX who-ore himself, McCarthy couldn't take it any longer so he took the sticks, and he flew it for another 40 mins. Finally I pried his fingers from the pizza box and I got it back for some more, and then TK wandered by and he took it for a long flight, and then finally back to Jack, the last sailplane to land on Fri. I forgot the final launch count for the day, but the tugs went through 10 gallons of gas. Of course then all the electric fun fly stuff came out... and then over to a BBQ at John Diniz house for excellent food, drink, electric heli flying in the driveway, and John did a small jam session in his basement later while McCarthy tried to finish building the scale model he didn't quite get flying earlier in the day. Just more fun! Today was a windier, with more people in attendance, but less of the flying at anyone time. Only one tug worked the flight line constantly. I flew once in the morning when the wind was calmer, but decided to help work the flight line and snap pictures and video in between the chores. Paul Siegel and Steve Siebenaler flew over from Ohio in Paul's Super Cub to check out the action and really put in a nice landing on the grass strip. Flying continued non-stop all day long. Later in the day there was a raffle for 1:1 scale glider rides, and although I didn't win one, I have never been up in a glider so I bought a ride. What a HOOT! So I got to sit in the front seat of 2-33, did an aerotow, and even got to fly it awhile. Shot a lot of video up there, and got some of flying site from above, with little sailplanes and tugs flying beneath us. Now that tops off a great couple of days! 8-) Don't miss this event next year, apparently it has really grown, now in its 3rd year. This is my first, and I really regret missing the first two. Pix and video tomorrow. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
the sites to experience is Johnny Vertical Tow Berlin.. i don't get the vertical tow, thought this was scale ? we should make this a F3b day. :-) dh RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
i can bring my sighting devices, thought f3b was expensive before! :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow the sites to experience is Johnny Vertical Tow Berlin.. i don't get the vertical tow, thought this was scale ? we should make this a F3b day. :-) dh RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Why try and pretend that a toy plane is the same as full scale anyway? If you want to fly something that looks like a full scale sailplane then go to the full scale airport and take a ride. Scale...sheesh. happy trails - Rob the sites to experience is "Johnny Vertical Tow Berlin"..i don't get the vertical tow, thought this was scale ? we should make this a F3b day. :-)dh
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
I knew I get you guys on the keyboards with that remark. :-) dh the sites to experience is "Johnny Vertical Tow Berlin"..i don't get the vertical tow, thought this was scale ? we should make this a F3b day. :-)dh
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
But it's not scale. Chuck Anderson At 10:39 AM 5/31/2005, you wrote: And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Hence why it's called JR Aero Tow. I see no wording of scale. :-) http://www.horizonhobby.com/Explore/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1427Page=1 Steven Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 10:55 AM 5/31/2005, Chuck Anderson wrote: But it's not scale. Chuck Anderson At 10:39 AM 5/31/2005, you wrote: And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Hence why it's called JR Aero Tow. I see no wording of scale. :-) what kind of planes do you fly at this event Steven ? :-) dh Steven Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 10:55 AM 5/31/2005, Chuck Anderson wrote: But it's not scale. Chuck Anderson At 10:39 AM 5/31/2005, you wrote: And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Big ones. At 02:14 PM 5/31/2005, D Hauch wrote: Hence why it's called JR Aero Tow. I see no wording of scale. :-) what kind of planes do you fly at this event Steven ? :-) dh Steven Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 10:55 AM 5/31/2005, Chuck Anderson wrote: But it's not scale. Chuck Anderson At 10:39 AM 5/31/2005, you wrote: And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why try and pretend that a toy plane is the same as full scale anyway? Right! Also, why call it a model? Most of the r/c gliders we fly are not models of anything. They're not meant to imitate something larger, they're merely meant to look cool and fly. Yet we miscall them models, forcing us to adapt the inappropriate word scale as a substitute to fill the void created because we misuse the word model. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Who care's if it's scale It is more fun having the tow plane do roll's one way while you do opposite roll's and It's even more fun doing an inverted aero tow with the glider and the tug anyway ...( If you ask Johnny real nice he will let you do just that) Really, if you hang the glider behind the tug on tow there is less chance for the glider pilot to do something stupidwelleven that depends on the pilot... ;^) Dr. Danny Williams Colorado Springs, CO RMSA http://www.rmsadenver.com ~ But it's not scale. Chuck Anderson At 10:39 AM 5/31/2005, you wrote: And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR Aerotow
Hot dogging is fine if... both pilots agree ahead of time to perform, and they are capable experienced pilots. The down side is, or may be, that there is a chance that you might intimidate or scare off a new guy to aerotow, who only walks up and see's a 46% Ultimate go vertical with a 2 meter in tow. Did it last year at JR myself. (By prior arrangement with the glider pilot) Incessant hot dogging for the sake of showing off adds little value to any event, and while I am guilty myself of once in a while having a little fun, the majority of scale flyers have no desire to risk their 3-5 k 1/3 scale planes doing stupid stuff, indeed a scale tow is a thing of beauty. I have come to believe we have to set an example for everyone and tow within the limits of the pilots abilities and the desires of the person being towed. Some vintage sailplanes won't tow at higher speeds and need sensible pilots to tow them. That said, at a busy event there is economy in steep tows, remembering that to go up steeply at full or high throttle decreases forward speed and converts speed into altitude. There is no doubt in my mind if full scale pilots could climb quickly and steeply, they would without hesitation, it is economy of time, fuel, and physical stress on airframes. Matching tow planes to gliders by size is not a bad idea either. Keep it safe. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dr Danny C Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:39 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR Aerotow Who care's if it's scale It is more fun having the tow plane do roll's one way while you do opposite roll's and It's even more fun doing an inverted aero tow with the glider and the tug anyway ...( If you ask Johnny real nice he will let you do just that) Really, if you hang the glider behind the tug on tow there is less chance for the glider pilot to do something stupidwelleven that depends on the pilot... ;^) Dr. Danny Williams Colorado Springs, CO RMSA http://www.rmsadenver.com ~ But it's not scale. Chuck Anderson At 10:39 AM 5/31/2005, you wrote: And it's much easier to see... 8-) Jim (Nats 2004 graduate of the Johnny Berlin school of vertical towing while tug is rolling) At 10:08 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vertical tow doesn't put anywhere near the stress on a plane that a winch launch does. Jim Downers Grove, IL RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR AEROTOW DATES?
I have already had one request for a 40% Pegasus for just that reason. Forty percent of what I am not sure, since it is not scale to begin with, but for 40% sailplanes even the 114 span Pegasus gets very small before the sailplane becomes difficult to see. John D. (erstine) Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.net email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'James V Bacus'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR AEROTOW DATES? Since the rules allow aero-tow to unlimited altitude, what is going to hold you back?! Good Lift! In aero towing it is usually the size of the tow plane that limits your release altitude. 6+ meter sailplanes get quit small at 850 meters AGL, there is no way you could tow to that altitude. So the trick is to have GIANT tugs. ;^)
