Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Hi Trevor, On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 12:29 -0800, Trevor Talbot wrote: > On Feb 15, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Bill Maas wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:51 -0800, Trevor Talbot wrote: > > >> The thing that started this thread is apparently a set of holes, not > >> a header. It's unreasonable to expect official documentation for it. > > > The thing that started this and a few other threads is there not being > > a board doc. If you substitute "unpopulated headers" (as I copied from > > Bernd's text in my hurry) with "various connectors" the story remains > > exactly the same. If there is a board doc, it will at least be clear > > what is a board feature and what isn't. No-one has asked such > > questions about net4[58]x boards, as far as I can remember. > > I was actually reinforcing two points there. One was "non-features > would not be documented", but the second was the fact that what > actually did start this thread is curiosity about such an undocumented > thing. It got hijacked to discuss the lack of a manual, but a manual > wouldn't answer the question anyway. In this particular case you and Bernd were of course entirely correct: no board manufacturer has to answer question about unused holes on a board. But this thread was only the last one in a series of "where is connector X?" and "what is JPy for?" threads. I was reacting in that context, I just assumed that would be clear given the number of such threads started recently. I don't think this list has ever seen so much curiosity in a Soekris board as it has the last two weeks;). Bill > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > -- "What's a computer?" - MES ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Feb 15, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Bill Maas wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:51 -0800, Trevor Talbot wrote: >> The thing that started this thread is apparently a set of holes, not >> a header. It's unreasonable to expect official documentation for it. > The thing that started this and a few other threads is there not being > a board doc. If you substitute "unpopulated headers" (as I copied from > Bernd's text in my hurry) with "various connectors" the story remains > exactly the same. If there is a board doc, it will at least be clear > what is a board feature and what isn't. No-one has asked such > questions about net4[58]x boards, as far as I can remember. I was actually reinforcing two points there. One was "non-features would not be documented", but the second was the fact that what actually did start this thread is curiosity about such an undocumented thing. It got hijacked to discuss the lack of a manual, but a manual wouldn't answer the question anyway. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Trevor Talbot skrev: > > Er, they were populated headers, not unpopulated holes in the board. > > The thing that started this thread is apparently a set of holes, not a > header. It's unreasonable to expect official documentation for it. Sure. But turned into a general discussion about the lack of documentation/manual for the 5501. Including the headers with pins and so forth. I don't think anyone in this thread expect the holes on the board to get documented. Just simply something like "how do I connect the second USB or serial header". Not providing a simple manual for the 5501 and leave that to the customer on a wiki is a lack of respect for the customer. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:51 -0800, Trevor Talbot wrote: > On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Bill Maas wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:07 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > [...] > >> Yes - having a manual for this board would be nice, but I don't > >> expect that there is anything new in it. > >> It will not tell about unpopulated headers - the 4501/4801 manual > >> don't do it either. > > > > Amongst the questions sent to this list are "which is the internal USB > > header", "which one is the second COM port" and "how is the GPIO > > header wired". > > > > Those were documented as Soekris FEATURES in the documentation for > > previous boxes, not as "there are unpopulated headers on the board and > > if you can find out what they are you can do lots of nice stuff with > > them". > > Er, they were populated headers, not unpopulated holes in the board. > > The thing that started this thread is apparently a set of holes, not a > header. It's unreasonable to expect official documentation for it. The thing that started this and a few other threads is there not being a board doc. If you substitute "unpopulated headers" (as I copied from Bernd's text in my hurry) with "various connectors" the story remains exactly the same. If there is a board doc, it will at least be clear what is a board feature and what isn't. No-one has asked such questions about net4[58]x boards, as far as I can remember. Bill > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- "What's a computer?" - MES ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Bill Maas wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:07 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > [...] >> Yes - having a manual for this board would be nice, but I don't >> expect that there is anything new in it. >> It will not tell about unpopulated headers - the 4501/4801 manual >> don't do it either. > > Amongst the questions sent to this list are "which is the internal USB > header", "which one is the second COM port" and "how is the GPIO > header wired". > > Those were documented as Soekris FEATURES in the documentation for > previous boxes, not as "there are unpopulated headers on the board and > if you can find out what they are you can do lots of nice stuff with > them". Er, they were populated headers, not unpopulated holes in the board. The thing that started this thread is apparently a set of holes, not a header. It's unreasonable to expect official documentation for it. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:07 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: [...] > Yes - having a manual for this board would be nice, but I don't expect > that there is anything new in it. > It will not tell about unpopulated headers - the 4501/4801 manual don't > do it either. Amongst the questions sent to this list are "which is the internal USB header", "which one is the second COM port" and "how is the GPIO header wired". Those were documented as Soekris FEATURES in the documentation for previous boxes, not as "there are unpopulated headers on the board and if you can find out what they are you can do lots of nice stuff with them". And sending users into the archives IMHO is not a valid option in this case. Product [feature] documentation should be available at a central location. I didn't count the months since this discussion first started... Bill -- "What's a computer?" - MES ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:45:36AM -0800, gavrik peterson wrote: > Wow! My question about JP3 sure got a big response. I think this is > the second time I asked about something like this and it turned into > complaints about the lack of documentation. Well - after all you are asking for a documentation for a connector, which doesn't exist - there are just holes. I don't know about JP1 and JP3, but I would assume that one of them is a JTAG header, which, under normal conditions, is for production only. The boards are a mix of embedded, vs. normal PC boards. In the real embedded market you even can have the requirement for a schematic. I personally consider the board more normal PC boards than embedded ones and if you by a motherboard from a random vendor you never get a description about unpopulated headers as well. I think Søren is playing nice compared to them in that he answered a lot of questions for purposes that his boards are not designed for. There are more questions like this, which may or may not be insteresting. For example I also could ask: If I unsolder the CF header, what kind of chips can I solder on the fields hidden by the CF header? At least on the 45xx there are solder fields for chips under the header. You may say that this includes unsoldering components, but the thread started asking about headers that don't exist. It is true that other vendors are more informative, but it is also true that there are many vendors, which are less informative. I've made some expirience with chinese products and getting an answer about anything beyound pricing is impossible. And the board design made it impossible to ever put the board into a case without doing ugly tricks, but this is another story. > > How hard can it be to type a few lines about pin layout in a text editor? > > Bill asks a very good question. Rather strange that things are this way. Yes - having a manual for this board would be nice, but I don't expect that there is anything new in it. It will not tell about unpopulated headers - the 4501/4801 manual don't do it either. It mighr tell about the requirement for a 12V supply to use the internal header for supplying an SATA disk, but anyway the header isn't populated, so this feature doesn't officially exist anyway. -- B.Walterhttp://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
gavrik peterson writes: >> How hard can it be to type a few lines about pin layout in a text editor? > > Bill asks a very good question. Rather strange that things are this way. Everyone sucks. Errare humanum est. Soren's particular suckfulness is entirely different from how e.g. Dell sucks. Pick your preferred alternative. (That said, I do wish Soren would hire someone suitable and get sensible documentation done.) Arnt ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Wow! My question about JP3 sure got a big response. I think this is the second time I asked about something like this and it turned into complaints about the lack of documentation. > How hard can it be to type a few lines about pin layout in a text editor? Bill asks a very good question. Rather strange that things are this way. -- Gavrik On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Bill Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 13:39 -0800, Ralph Becker-Szendy wrote: > > Bob Camp wrote: > [...] > > > Not documenting the board does not in any fashion prevent or slow down > > loss of intellectual property. It simply inconveniences the customers, > > and scares off would-be-customers. Having said that, I'm sure that > > Soren knows where his priorities are, and that he is working on > > something that is more important that fixing documentation for older > boards. > > Fix Bugs First, Add Features Later.. > > I've been scorned for selecting .txt as a default doc format in the past > (primitive, amateuristic, obsolete, stone age..). In this case it might > be a welcome start. I care more about info than about markup myself. How > hard can it be to type a few lines about pin layout in a text editor? > > Bill > > > > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 13:39 -0800, Ralph Becker-Szendy wrote: > Bob Camp wrote: [...] > Not documenting the board does not in any fashion prevent or slow down > loss of intellectual property. It simply inconveniences the customers, > and scares off would-be-customers. Having said that, I'm sure that > Soren knows where his priorities are, and that he is working on > something that is more important that fixing documentation for older boards. Fix Bugs First, Add Features Later.. I've been scorned for selecting .txt as a default doc format in the past (primitive, amateuristic, obsolete, stone age..). In this case it might be a welcome start. I care more about info than about markup myself. How hard can it be to type a few lines about pin layout in a text editor? Bill ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Stuart Henderson wrote on 13-2-2008 23:06: > On 2008/02/13 21:05, Stephen Patrick wrote: >> How about a "WikiManual"? >> Everyone contribute? > > There already is one at http://wiki.soekris.info/, but bear in mind > it is just information from random people on the internet who, even > with the best intentions, might not be totally accurate. It's irrelevant if the wiki is accurate or not, documentation should come from the manufacturer. The manuals for the 4501 and 4801 are simple but adequate, and there is no reason why documenting a similar product should take months. I wonder what's going on. I'm not yet buying the 5501 for this reason, and will move away from Soekris if I have to, no matter how much I like their products. Jan Hoevers ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:52:36 -0500 "Martin K. Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All it takes is an email to the list and > I'm sure somebody would wikify the information. You mean, like http://wiki.soekris.info ??? (: pgpE9axr9yCmO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Bob Camp wrote: > There is a "dark side" to this. The better you document the product, > the easier it is to duplicate. Simply buying parts and tossing them on > a pc board is pretty easy these days. Documenting without giving away > to much is a fairly difficult art. Heh, oh yes, I know how the power plug is wired, surely I can duplicate a power plant ;) The people just want to know the BIOS settings and commands, what connector is what and how they are wired, and maybe the mechanical specs. No need to disclose the schematics, PCB layout, ... -- Stano ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On 2008/02/13 21:05, Stephen Patrick wrote: > How about a "WikiManual"? > Everyone contribute? There already is one at http://wiki.soekris.info/, but bear in mind it is just information from random people on the internet who, even with the best intentions, might not be totally accurate. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
> How about a "WikiManual"? > Everyone contribute? > Doesn't sound too hard to me ... Okay, but who's going to do the Vulcan mind meld with Soren? Alan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
On 2008/02/13 16:24, Bob Camp wrote: > > There is a "dark side" to this. The better you document the product, > the easier it is to duplicate. Simply buying parts and tossing them on > a pc board is pretty easy these days. Documenting without giving away > to much is a fairly difficult art. People aren't asking for something in great depth, something like the manual that the main competitor to Soekris has for their Geode LX boards, or the existing manuals for net4501/4801, would be plenty of information and doesn't give too much away. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
How about a "WikiManual"? Everyone contribute? Doesn't sound too hard to me ... Regards Stephen -Original Message- From: Johan Linner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2008 20:11 Cc: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501? gavrik peterson skrev: > The discussion about USB and JP8 on the net5501 got me wondering about > JP3 which is located right next to the Geode processor. JP3 is a row > of seven holes (no header is mounted as shipped by Soekris). The Geode > processor has video outputs and I was thinking that JP3 might be the > red, green, blue and sync pulse outputs. Does anyone know? > > Gavrik > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech Which keeps me wondering... How hard could it be for Soren/Soekris to publish a proper documentation for this product?? It has been out for quite some time now. Johan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- This email has been verified as Virus free. Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 15:20 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Bob Camp wrote: > There is a "dark side" to this. The better you document the product, > the easier it is to duplicate. Simply buying parts and tossing them on > a pc board is pretty easy these days. Documenting without giving away > to much is a fairly difficult art. Certainly, there is some truth in that statement. I've been in enough meeting with patent and IP attorneys myself to be intimately familiar with the tension here. BUT: Not documenting the pinout of connectors or what chips are on a board is just silly. If someone REALLY wants to know what JP3 does, and cares enough to spend a few hours and a few hundred $, they can use a voltmeter to track it down to pins on the chips (probably after unsoldering the BGA chips to get to the pads). With a few hundred $ more, they can get the board X-rayed (seen that done often enough when diagnosing defective boards). And anyone who wants to duplicate the board would have ample economic incentive to perform these reverse-engineering tasks, while they make no economic sense to the purchaser of a board. Not documenting the board does not in any fashion prevent or slow down loss of intellectual property. It simply inconveniences the customers, and scares off would-be-customers. Having said that, I'm sure that Soren knows where his priorities are, and that he is working on something that is more important that fixing documentation for older boards. -- Ralph Becker-Szendy[EMAIL PROTECTED](408)395-1435 735 Sunset Ridge Road; Los Gatos, CA 95033 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > There is a "dark side" to this. The better you document the product, > the easier it is to duplicate. Simply buying parts and tossing them on > a pc board is pretty easy these days. Documenting without giving away > to much is a fairly difficult art. there is another dark side to this. without proper documentation, people will stop buying your products. like we did. we don't buy soekris products at the moment for the lack of proper documentation (and bad power supplies). and from some private emails, I know we are not the only ones. > > Bob > > > On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Martin K. Petersen wrote: > >>> "Johan" == Johan Linner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Johan> Which keeps me wondering... How hard could it be for >> Johan> Soren/Soekris to publish a proper documentation for this >> Johan> product?? It has been out for quite some time now. >> >> When I was doing consulting in the embedded space I had several >> customers back away from Soekris due to the (perceived) lack of >> documentation and support. This is simply a deal breaker in most >> commercial applications. Doesn't have to be fancy, but it absolutely >> has to be there. >> >> I'm sure Søren knows this and that he is just incredibly busy. But I >> wish he would at least leverage the community he has successfully >> built around his products. All it takes is an email to the list and >> I'm sure somebody would wikify the information. >> >> -- >> Martin K. Petersen http://mkp.net/ >> ___ >> Soekris-tech mailing list >> Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com >> http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech >> > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- SELECT services FROM companies WHERE name = 'micro systems' marc balmer, micro systems, wiesendamm 2a, postfach, ch-4019 basel internet www.msys.ch, phone +41 61 383 05 10, fax +41 61 383 05 12 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "gavr ik peterson" writes: >The discussion about USB and JP8 on the net5501 got me wondering about >JP3 which is located right next to the Geode processor. I would suspect JTAG ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Hi There is a "dark side" to this. The better you document the product, the easier it is to duplicate. Simply buying parts and tossing them on a pc board is pretty easy these days. Documenting without giving away to much is a fairly difficult art. Bob On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Martin K. Petersen wrote: >> "Johan" == Johan Linner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Johan> Which keeps me wondering... How hard could it be for > Johan> Soren/Soekris to publish a proper documentation for this > Johan> product?? It has been out for quite some time now. > > When I was doing consulting in the embedded space I had several > customers back away from Soekris due to the (perceived) lack of > documentation and support. This is simply a deal breaker in most > commercial applications. Doesn't have to be fancy, but it absolutely > has to be there. > > I'm sure Søren knows this and that he is just incredibly busy. But I > wish he would at least leverage the community he has successfully > built around his products. All it takes is an email to the list and > I'm sure somebody would wikify the information. > > -- > Martin K. Petersen http://mkp.net/ > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
Martin K. Petersen wrote: >> "Johan" == Johan Linner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Johan> Which keeps me wondering... How hard could it be for > Johan> Soren/Soekris to publish a proper documentation for this > Johan> product?? It has been out for quite some time now. > > When I was doing consulting in the embedded space I had several > customers back away from Soekris due to the (perceived) lack of > documentation and support. This is simply a deal breaker in most > commercial applications. Doesn't have to be fancy, but it absolutely > has to be there. > > I'm sure Søren knows this and that he is just incredibly busy. But I > wish he would at least leverage the community he has successfully > built around his products. All it takes is an email to the list and > I'm sure somebody would wikify the information. Some while ago, not to long, he mentioned in this list that he his working on manual. So I would say there is hope ;) In the meantime, check the Soekris Wiki and enter any information you find. -- SELECT services FROM companies WHERE name = 'micro systems' marc balmer, micro systems, wiesendamm 2a, postfach, ch-4019 basel internet www.msys.ch, phone +41 61 383 05 10, fax +41 61 383 05 12 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
> "Johan" == Johan Linner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Johan> Which keeps me wondering... How hard could it be for Johan> Soren/Soekris to publish a proper documentation for this Johan> product?? It has been out for quite some time now. When I was doing consulting in the embedded space I had several customers back away from Soekris due to the (perceived) lack of documentation and support. This is simply a deal breaker in most commercial applications. Doesn't have to be fancy, but it absolutely has to be there. I'm sure Søren knows this and that he is just incredibly busy. But I wish he would at least leverage the community he has successfully built around his products. All it takes is an email to the list and I'm sure somebody would wikify the information. -- Martin K. Petersen http://mkp.net/ ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
gavrik peterson skrev: > The discussion about USB and JP8 on the net5501 got me wondering about > JP3 which is located right next to the Geode processor. JP3 is a row > of seven holes (no header is mounted as shipped by Soekris). The Geode > processor has video outputs and I was thinking that JP3 might be the > red, green, blue and sync pulse outputs. Does anyone know? > > Gavrik > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech Which keeps me wondering... How hard could it be for Soren/Soekris to publish a proper documentation for this product?? It has been out for quite some time now. Johan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Anyone know what JP3 does on net5501?
The discussion about USB and JP8 on the net5501 got me wondering about JP3 which is located right next to the Geode processor. JP3 is a row of seven holes (no header is mounted as shipped by Soekris). The Geode processor has video outputs and I was thinking that JP3 might be the red, green, blue and sync pulse outputs. Does anyone know? Gavrik ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech