RE: Merry Christmas everyone

[Morten Bartholdy]

Thank you for your efforts to ease the transistion to Maya this far - it is
much appreciated, Jill.
Good luck to you too :)

Morten



Den 16. december 2014 kl. 18:07 skrev "Jill Ramsay (Contractor)"
:

> Hey guys, wishing you all the best for the festive season and just to let
you know my contract here at the Desk is done as of this week. Daniel
Tutino will be taking over Softimage transition matters from a PM point of
view – he’s a former Softimage PM and is now looking after the Project
Humanize Maya initiative, so he’s well placed to help those of you who are
considering transitioning to Maya.
> Good luck to you all wherever you end up.
> Jill
>

Re: Modo Sale again 40% off

[Francois Lord]

The Bonjour Wikipedia page once described it as malware on Windows, 
because it was made impossible to uninstall.


So... can anyone confirm Modo 801 got rid of it?

On 17-Dec-14 14:07, pete...@skynet.be wrote:
I remember iTunes disabling all optical drives in the registry upon 
installation on windows.
it was a well known/documented issue – that’s the last time I let 
anything from Apple on my computer.

Apple is evil.
(just to put things in perspective, I pretty much grew up with Apple 
computers in the house since the 80s)

Re: Modo Sale again 40% off

[Steffen Dünner]

MODO 801 is still installing Bonjour to discover network render nodes in
the network. AFAIK it can't be uninstalled separately. I don't know about
901, though.

Francois Lord  schrieb am Thu Dec 18 2014 at 4:39:34
PM:

>  The Bonjour Wikipedia page once described it as malware on Windows,
> because it was made impossible to uninstall.
>
> So... can anyone confirm Modo 801 got rid of it?
>
>
> On 17-Dec-14 14:07, pete...@skynet.be wrote:
>
>  I remember iTunes disabling all optical drives in the registry upon
> installation on windows.
> it was a well known/documented issue - that's the last time I let anything
> from Apple on my computer.
>
> Apple is evil.
> (just to put things in perspective, I pretty much grew up with Apple
> computers in the house since the 80s)
>
>
>
>

From the forge

[Mirko Jankovic]

A bit more of Softimage around 2min mark...

Overall great watch but SI catches my eye ofc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JpfDgGdhNw

Re: From the forge

[Sebastien Sterling]

Big woot !

On 18 December 2014 at 16:27, Mirko Jankovic 
wrote:
>
> A bit more of Softimage around 2min mark...
>
> Overall great watch but SI catches my eye ofc
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JpfDgGdhNw
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[wavo]

yeh!

...Nuke with bifröst...

happy xmas and an exiting New Year.

Walt


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Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Paul Griswold]

Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On
top of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).

It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
Leadership?  Nah

-PG


ᐧ

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Marc Brinkley  wrote:
>
>  I could see ADSK buying Foundry for Nuke\Mari\Katana. ADSK doesn’t have
> similar toolsets and that would be reason enough to shore up their tool
> chain.
>
>
>
> That would be the final pieces to their monopoly.
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Raffaele Fragapane
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:05 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
>
>
>
> It's owned by an investment group. They sell in a particular hurry
> ESPECIALLY when something is going well. You sell at peak value shortly
> after a round of re-valuing purchases and hype, when cash value is high for
> returns, and earnings prospects are high to entice buyers.
>
>
>
> As for who'll be buying, I'd be surprised if it was AD, but can't rule it
> out, a media group or an unexpected games-side player or something like
> that seems more likely though.
>
>
>
> Or maybe DS will decide to piss in AD's cornflakes buying it, but I doubt
> they are willing to shell out 200-250M pounds for such an unfamiliar
> patents package and software they have no cross-sales potential or sales
> network to merge and reduce in.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:31 PM, David Saber  wrote:
>
> Why is it sold? I thought Modo was going well... ?
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>

RE: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Sven Constable]

There is no problem. ADSK is just not a software developer.

sven

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:29 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

 

Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media 
Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On top of 
that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook Designer (not 
Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).

 

It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest 
compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?  Leadership? 
 Nah

 

-PG

 

 

  

 ᐧ

 

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Marc Brinkley  
wrote:

I could see ADSK buying Foundry for Nuke\Mari\Katana. ADSK doesn’t have similar 
toolsets and that would be reason enough to shore up their tool chain.

 

That would be the final pieces to their monopoly.

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:05 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

 

It's owned by an investment group. They sell in a particular hurry ESPECIALLY 
when something is going well. You sell at peak value shortly after a round of 
re-valuing purchases and hype, when cash value is high for returns, and 
earnings prospects are high to entice buyers.

 

As for who'll be buying, I'd be surprised if it was AD, but can't rule it out, 
a media group or an unexpected games-side player or something like that seems 
more likely though.

 

Or maybe DS will decide to piss in AD's cornflakes buying it, but I doubt they 
are willing to shell out 200-250M pounds for such an unfamiliar patents package 
and software they have no cross-sales potential or sales network to merge and 
reduce in.

 

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:31 PM, David Saber  wrote:

Why is it sold? I thought Modo was going well... ?




 

-- 

Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and 
let them flee like the dogs they are!

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think people
just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, cheaper.
What people have in their hands is pretty great already.

btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code of
the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much of
the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is now
worthless.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold <
pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>
> Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
> Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On
> top of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
> Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>
> It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
> compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
> Leadership?  Nah
>
> -PG
>
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Mirko Jankovic]

" I think people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are
used to,"

Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out there but
doesn't meant
a thing later when it was chopped down

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau 
wrote:
>
> Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think people
> just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, cheaper.
> What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
>
> btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code
> of the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much
> of the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is
> now worthless.
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold <
> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
>> Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On
>> top of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
>> Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>>
>> It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
>> compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
>> Leadership?  Nah
>>
>> -PG
>>
>>

RE: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Andi Farhall]

"Personally I think all of this old source code base is now worthless."
I would agree, and I would include Maya.

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From: mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

" I think people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used 
to,"
Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out there but doesn't 
meant a thing later when it was chopped down
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau  
wrote:Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think 
people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, 
cheaper.  What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code of the 
fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much of the 
other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is now 
worthless.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold 
 wrote:Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, 
Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media Illusion, Matador), as well as 
Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On top of that they have a fantastic 
vector paint program called Sketchbook Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though 
that's pretty spiffy too).
It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest 
compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?  Leadership? 
 Nah
-PG








  

Animating lights on instances ICE

[Steve Parish]

Any ideas on animating lights to then be distributed on ICE particles?

I can get the lights instanced using "instance shape" but then animating
them?

Or maybe some way to animate objects that I can then constrain lights to?






Cheers
S

Re: Animating lights on instances ICE

[Rob Chapman]

you mean animating them with translation and rotation rather than the light
intensity?

sure if you can make any instance animated and control the animation with
shape instance time

http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2012/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingAnimatedMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d28e290484


On 18 December 2014 at 22:35, Steve Parish  wrote:
>
> Any ideas on animating lights to then be distributed on ICE particles?
>
> I can get the lights instanced using "instance shape" but then animating
> them?
>
> Or maybe some way to animate objects that I can then constrain lights to?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
> S
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

I see what you did there, but that quote was about the 14-bit
compositing code that was last developed in 1996, which I used 5 years
later.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Andi Farhall  wrote:
> "Personally I think all of this old source code base is now worthless."
>
> I would agree, and I would include Maya.
>
>
> 
> From: mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0100
> Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>
>
> " I think people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are
> used to,"
>
> Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out there but doesn't
> meant a thing later when it was chopped down
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau 
> wrote:
>
> Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think people
> just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, cheaper.
> What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
>
> btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code of
> the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much of
> the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is now
> worthless.
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold
>  wrote:
>
> Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
> Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On top
> of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
> Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>
> It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
> compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
> Leadership?  Nah
>
> -PG
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Graham D. Clark]

I still use it even over Nuke for some quick comps :)
-- 
Graham D Clark, VP/Head of Stereography, Stereo D, Deluxe
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau  wrote:
> Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think people
> just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, cheaper.
> What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
>
> btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code of
> the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much of
> the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is now
> worthless.
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold
>  wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
>> Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On top
>> of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
>> Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>>
>> It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
>> compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
>> Leadership?  Nah
>>
>> -PG
>>
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

More context for clarity: "worthless".. to build a new "greatest
compositing"  app.
On Dec 18, 2014 6:01 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau"  wrote:

> I see what you did there, but that quote was about the 14-bit
> compositing code that was last developed in 1996, which I used 5 years
> later.
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Andi Farhall  wrote:
> > "Personally I think all of this old source code base is now worthless."
> >
> > I would agree, and I would include Maya.
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0100
> > Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >
> >
> > " I think people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are
> > used to,"
> >
> > Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out there but
> doesn't
> > meant a thing later when it was chopped down
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think
> people
> > just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, cheaper.
> > What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
> >
> > btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code
> of
> > the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much
> of
> > the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is
> now
> > worthless.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
> > Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On
> top
> > of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
> > Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
> >
> > It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
> > compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
> > Leadership?  Nah
> >
> > -PG
> >
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Sebastien Sterling]

I'm pretty sure most of us are happy with Nuke, it would be nice if the
next owner exhibited some shared passion or vision of the product and a
willingness to further it's betterment. instead of begrudgingly stretching
out and rationing feature quotas secure in the knowledge that there is no
longer (oups..!) i mean no comparable alternative for people to defect to.
:P

On 18 December 2014 at 23:37, Luc-Eric Rousseau  wrote:
>
> More context for clarity: "worthless".. to build a new "greatest
> compositing"  app.
> On Dec 18, 2014 6:01 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau"  wrote:
>
>> I see what you did there, but that quote was about the 14-bit
>> compositing code that was last developed in 1996, which I used 5 years
>> later.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Andi Farhall 
>> wrote:
>> > "Personally I think all of this old source code base is now worthless."
>> >
>> > I would agree, and I would include Maya.
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com
>> > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0100
>> > Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
>> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> >
>> >
>> > " I think people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are
>> > used to,"
>> >
>> > Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out there but
>> doesn't
>> > meant a thing later when it was chopped down
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think
>> people
>> > just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to,
>> cheaper.
>> > What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
>> >
>> > btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source
>> code of
>> > the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much
>> of
>> > the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is
>> now
>> > worthless.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
>> > Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?
>> On top
>> > of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
>> > Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>> >
>> > It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
>> > compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
>> > Leadership?  Nah
>> >
>> > -PG
>> >
>>
>

Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Tim Leydecker]

I hope the already announced "Non-commercial NUKE" will not be affected. 
Seriously.


I am looking forward to giving myself the pains of learning at least 
basic roto skills
to be able to do better slapcomps. Everybody has their own New year´s 
resolutions...


Aside from that, I trust that whoever will go ahead and pay 250 millions 
for the company
will expect this to be a long time investment and will want to make sure 
the profit grows

from customer trust and a long term development strategy.

As I understand it, that´s how business and profit is done nowadays and 
those worries
about hedgefonds or private investor groups triggered by short sighted 
motives are
totally out of context and should not be taken yet again as a mirror of 
the world we live in.


The best business model atm is the subscription model. Guaranteed cash flow.
Like with a cow, milk it instead of butchering it. Exceptions just prove 
this rule.


Cheers,

tim


Am 19.12.2014 00:55, schrieb Sebastien Sterling:
I'm pretty sure most of us are happy with Nuke, it would be nice if 
the next owner exhibited some shared passion or vision of the product 
and a willingness to further it's betterment. instead of begrudgingly 
stretching out and rationing feature quotas secure in the knowledge 
that there is no longer (oups..!) i mean no comparable alternative for 
people to defect to. :P


On 18 December 2014 at 23:37, Luc-Eric Rousseau > wrote:


More context for clarity: "worthless".. to build a new "greatest
compositing"  app.

On Dec 18, 2014 6:01 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau" mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I see what you did there, but that quote was about the 14-bit
compositing code that was last developed in 1996, which I used
5 years
later.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Andi Farhall
mailto:hack...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> "Personally I think all of this old source code base is now
worthless."
>
> I would agree, and I would include Maya.
>
>
> 
> From: mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com

> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0100
> Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

>
>
> " I think people just want the existing, production-proven
ones they are
> used to,"
>
> Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out
there but doesn't
> meant a thing later when it was chopped down
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau
mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do. 
I think people

> just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used
to, cheaper.
> What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
>
> btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the
source code of
> the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and
not that much of
> the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source
code base is now
> worthless.
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold
> mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:
>
> Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree
(Eddie, Media
> Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the
FX Tree)?  On top
> of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called
Sketchbook
> Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>
> It seems like they already own enough technology to create
the greatest
> compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the
problem is?
> Leadership?  Nah
>
> -PG
>

RE: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Angus Davidson]

Well Fusion in the hands of Blackmagic is a start.

One of the biggest travesties in Soft is how they left Illusion to stagnate and 
die. With a bit of effort it could have been a real contender. As it is its 
still used for quick comps even today. For something last worked on a long time 
ago thats impressive.

Then again the compositor in blender is shaping up to be very useable. So there 
are very viable alternatives to Nuke.



From: Sebastien Sterling [sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 December 2014 01:55 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

I'm pretty sure most of us are happy with Nuke, it would be nice if the next 
owner exhibited some shared passion or vision of the product and a willingness 
to further it's betterment. instead of begrudgingly stretching out and 
rationing feature quotas secure in the knowledge that there is no longer 
(oups..!) i mean no comparable alternative for people to defect to. :P

On 18 December 2014 at 23:37, Luc-Eric Rousseau 
mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

More context for clarity: "worthless".. to build a new "greatest compositing"  
app.

On Dec 18, 2014 6:01 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau" 
mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I see what you did there, but that quote was about the 14-bit
compositing code that was last developed in 1996, which I used 5 years
later.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Andi Farhall 
mailto:hack...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> "Personally I think all of this old source code base is now worthless."
>
> I would agree, and I would include Maya.
>
>
> 
> From: mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:00 +0100
> Subject: Re: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>
>
> " I think people just want the existing, production-proven ones they are
> used to,"
>
> Well this goes also for Softimage for a lot of artist out there but doesn't
> meant a thing later when it was chopped down
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau 
> mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Does anybody want a new compositor? I don't think they do.  I think people
> just want the existing, production-proven ones they are used to, cheaper.
> What people have in their hands is pretty great already.
>
> btw autodesk doesn't own eddie/illusion/matador/ER, just the source code of
> the fxtree, which doesn't really have any eddie in it and not that much of
> the other ones. Personally I think all of this old source code base is now
> worthless.
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Griswold
> mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>>
>  wrote:
>
> Doesn't ADSK own Toxik, Composite, Smoke, Flame, FX Tree (Eddie, Media
> Illusion, Matador), as well as Elastic Reality (inside the FX Tree)?  On top
> of that they have a fantastic vector paint program called Sketchbook
> Designer (not Sketchbook Pro, though that's pretty spiffy too).
>
> It seems like they already own enough technology to create the greatest
> compositor the world has ever seen.  I wonder what the problem is?
> Leadership?  Nah
>
> -PG
>



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RE: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!

[Matt Lind]

In your opinion, what would've needed to happen with the FXTree to make it a 
'real contender'.


Matt




Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:23:40 +
From: Angus Davidson 
Subject: RE: Lets Hope Autodesk Buys the Foundry!
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"

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Well Fusion in the hands of Blackmagic is a start.

One of the biggest travesties in Soft is how they left Illusion to stagnate 
and die. With a bit of effort it could have been a real contender. As it is 
its still used for quick comps even today. For something last worked on a 
long time ago thats impressive.


Then again the compositor in blender is shaping up to be very useable. So 
there are very viable alternatives to Nuke.