Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
It makes me so pissed how expensive software can be. This format of distributing even sucks more. I still use Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign CS5 at home (release date 2010). I also have worked with Adobe CC for a client. In those 5 years the amount of change is so small. And a lot of new features are designed bad cause they have to continue on old crap. Not having updated this software saved me a lot of money. I don't use any 3d applications at the moment but some day in my life this subscription shit is gonna cost me so much more. Also, which 3d artists doesn't open his application for 1 month? And why add with 52 weeks if you can't pay for each week. That would have made more sense (in a world that isn't about money). Once again FU AD. 2015-07-09 14:03 GMT+02:00 Ognjen Vukovic ognj...@gmail.com: Maybe they could throw in a subscription to starbucks for the duration of the rental to sweeten the deal. Or even a AD obscure music streaming plug-in for maya so you can shoe-gaze whilst your scene crashes :). On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering where their products fit into the pipeline My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone. What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as well... +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut) + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut) + 20$ Photoshop + 20$ Affter Effects 235$ ... a month Your project lasts 3 months 705$ The clients will love it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.de wrote: I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It
Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
that's the best advert i have seen for the foundry so far On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.de wrote: I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell
Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering where their products fit into the pipeline My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone. What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as well... +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut) + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut) + 20$ Photoshop + 20$ Affter Effects 235$ ... a month Your project lasts 3 months 705$ The clients will love it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.de wrote: I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This
Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
LOL On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:48, Kevin mc bride kev@gmail.com wrote: that's the best advert i have seen for the foundry so far On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.de mailto:sha...@3d-agenten.de wrote: I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com mailto:si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com mailto:si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com/ http://www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com/* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk/ http://www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk/* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be mailto:pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com mailto:3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com mailto:scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de
Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. sven *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Parrish *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Anybody see this today? Barf! http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. From: Nicolas Esposito Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. sven From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Anybody see this today? Barf! http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
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Maybe they could throw in a subscription to starbucks for the duration of the rental to sweeten the deal. Or even a AD obscure music streaming plug-in for maya so you can shoe-gaze whilst your scene crashes :). On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering where their products fit into the pipeline My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone. What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as well... +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut) + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut) + 20$ Photoshop + 20$ Affter Effects 235$ ... a month Your project lasts 3 months 705$ The clients will love it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.de wrote: I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think
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That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. sven *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Parrish *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Anybody see this today? Barf! http://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/your-life-maya
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That chap looks like he couldn't model a sofa. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Simon Reeves si...@simonreeves.com wrote: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. sven *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Parrish *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
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you dont have to. Autodesk the cloud handles that. just take a few photos, fist bump your client, done. On 9 July 2015 at 11:04, Perry Harovas perryharo...@gmail.com wrote: That chap looks like he couldn't model a sofa. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Simon Reeves si...@simonreeves.com wrote: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK si...@simonreeves.com www.simonreeves.com www.analogstudio.co.uk On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. From: Nicolas Esposito Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. sven From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:35 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Get rid of your flip phone
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I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no idea about target audience at all. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. Starting next year companies will no longer be able to obtain new permanent licenses either. It will all be subscription based. Count on the incentives showing up to swap your permanent licenses to monthly or annual subscriptions, and more than likely for support of permanent licenses to go away. I find the ad insulting on many levels. There is the fact that it may as well be a marketing campaign for mens casual clothing. It is a generic ad campaign for Product as Lifestyle. All of the imagery is of people doing cool stuff that cool people do.. no 3d.. no work. The video following the guy with vacant bloodshot eyes (arguably the only authentic part of the video) around his day being a cool guy involves about 5% of him tumbling and pondering a mesh before getting back to his cool guy duties like being dressed good for the MUNI bus and the club. This feels very idiocracy-like and I think strongly reflects on the people making decisions at Autodesk. I do not want to give these people money and this is one of the bigger motivations I've had to pursue Fabric, Houdini and Modo and transition away from Maya. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Sven Constable sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote: This video insists that freelancers should take the cost of software licensing instead of the companies they are working for. To me it looks like ADSK starts to shift business to starving freelancers because they didn’t succeed on forcing companies to go subscription. Makes sense busines wise, because freelancers want to stay current with the software even it has no real production value. Freelancers want to stay current because they think no one will here them otherwise. Sell one seat to a company for lets say 1500$ per year with a chance to update of 50%. Or sell twelve seats for 125$ each to freelancers and the probability of selling updates is much higher. sven *From:*
Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya!
hehe wait to see new taximeter mode! you start maya and meter starts ticking like phonecall, each second takes a bit from you ronline AD wallet. if you run out of credit, maya closes and asks fr more mney to be put in ofc you can get 3 6 12 months packages worth of seconds of using time... future is bright! On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Doeke Wartena doeke.wart...@gmail.com wrote: It makes me so pissed how expensive software can be. This format of distributing even sucks more. I still use Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign CS5 at home (release date 2010). I also have worked with Adobe CC for a client. In those 5 years the amount of change is so small. And a lot of new features are designed bad cause they have to continue on old crap. Not having updated this software saved me a lot of money. I don't use any 3d applications at the moment but some day in my life this subscription shit is gonna cost me so much more. Also, which 3d artists doesn't open his application for 1 month? And why add with 52 weeks if you can't pay for each week. That would have made more sense (in a world that isn't about money). Once again FU AD. 2015-07-09 14:03 GMT+02:00 Ognjen Vukovic ognj...@gmail.com: Maybe they could throw in a subscription to starbucks for the duration of the rental to sweeten the deal. Or even a AD obscure music streaming plug-in for maya so you can shoe-gaze whilst your scene crashes :). On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe are AID PIGS too but at least their model makes sense, considering where their products fit into the pipeline My point being Adobe is trenches, 3D is Warzone. What is you need to use another AD App like Mudbox ? or even motion builder ? hell what if you need After Effect or Photoshop in your pipe as well... +185$ Maya (not inc retailer cut) + 10$ Mudbox (not inc retailer cut) + 20$ Photoshop + 20$ Affter Effects 235$ ... a month Your project lasts 3 months 705$ The clients will love it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKeAAdjZYAs On 9 July 2015 at 11:13, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.de wrote: I asume it will probably work for Autodesk as it is a similar story with Adobe. Nobody liked the renting thing but now most of the people play the game. Little difference: there are a few 3D-Apps around, which are not Audodesk to which one can take a sidestep... Welcome in the club of Betatesters, where you can´t be sure something´s working this month will also work in the next month/softwareversion. So my Adobe experience. Am 09.07.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Simon Reeves: That chap looked confused after waking up on the sofa Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 9 July 2015 at 09:08, pete...@skynet.be wrote: industry standard 3d software – that’s so mental ray. right about when they started promoting it as industry standard, development froze in it’s tracks. perhaps if every marketeer at Adsk was replaced with a developer, they might have a future. and what’s with all the guitars? oh my, this is wrong on so many levels – whoever commissioned and approved this should get flayed. *From:* Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Get rid of your flip phone and get current on maya! Agree with Mirko, This is an experiment to see if they can get away with it... If the hipster guy had a shirt with XSI logo that video would be absolutely perfect. Not sure what is the situation in your countries, but I rarely see freelancers this calm, cool, with the headphones and smelly t-shirt...did they watch How I met your Mother and saw that the high five is what the cool kids do nowdays? Or they hired Richard Linklater to really see what the youth is all about? Jesus ADSK Jesus! 2015-07-09 7:22 GMT+02:00 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net: I find it amazing that marketing is so out of touch with their target audience ... $125 / month ... that's maybe an hour of your time? Are there any freelance 3D animators out there that get $125 / hour? Maybe I'm out of touch...maybe 10 years ago. I will be using Softimage, with Redshift 3D, till I change careers. Not buying , or renting, anything else. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:32 AM Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: This all is just big social experiment... let's see how much ppl can take.. how stupid they are, how much we can shovel down the throat without rebelling. Stop buying AD crap, lets see how long will they keep Maya and Max then,, what is the limit of income they are willing to push 3d industry forward, be innovative and help artists give us their mo.. *cough* do their job... Fing marketing ppl that has no
