Re: ICE rdb noob question
I forgot about the free momentum 1 and the free implosia over at rray.de For this job, those did the trick. Thanks for the advice. oh and Stefan... Blender... Really?? No one has time to learn that interface, I would rather erase my memory and learn the zbrush interface again, before I try and do something more than import/export in blender. (I'm kidding of course before this starts a flame war.) G On 2012/10/17 01:22 AM, Adam Sale wrote: momentum and implosia... done.. You can break up with ICE http://vimeo.com/28138992 but you will need to extract the islands individually to run with vanilla bullet rbds.. And ICE shatter has issues with complex shapes, lots of concavities. Which is where Implosia shines. The default shattering with momentum is ok, but pales next to IFX the two plugins should really become one, so interdependent they are. Andy Moorer has this ICE plug thats pretty cool Emit SRT Matched Instances http://andy.moonbase.net/downloads could provide useful for you... Adam On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Andersson sander...@gmail.com mailto:sander...@gmail.com wrote: The hours you spend on trying to get that to work you could have spent on buying a Momentum or ImplosiaFX license :) Here are two things you can do. 1.) Brute force method But you can break up the mesh with ice and then freeze the geo, and then extract the pieces. Then use those to simulate. 2.) OpenSource Do it in Blender. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs I would chose Option 2, but that's me... :) best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com mailto:g...@cannonballbunny.com wrote: Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G -- stefan andersson - digital janitor - http://sanders3d.wordpress.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5835 - Release Date: 10/16/12
Re: ICE rdb noob question
I thought the interface argument was valid before they did the rebuild does it still feel so bad to those that are not used to it? Personally I like it a lot, but then I originally started learning 3D in Blender :/ /Thomas Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com hat am 17. Oktober 2012 um 13:23 geschrieben: I forgot about the free momentum 1 and the free implosia over at rray.de For this job, those did the trick. Thanks for the advice. oh and Stefan... Blender... Really?? No one has time to learn that interface, I would rather erase my memory and learn the zbrush interface again, before I try and do something more than import/export in blender. (I’m kidding of course before this starts a flame war.) G On 2012/10/17 01:22 AM, Adam Sale wrote: momentum and implosia... done.. You can break up with ICE http://vimeo.com/28138992 http://vimeo.com/28138992 but you will need to extract the islands individually to run with vanilla bullet rbds.. And ICE shatter has issues with complex shapes, lots of concavities. Which is where Implosia shines. The default shattering with momentum is ok, but pales next to IFX the two plugins should really become one, so interdependent they are. Andy Moorer has this ICE plug thats pretty cool Emit SRT Matched Instances http://andy.moonbase.net/downloads http://andy.moonbase.net/downloads could provide useful for you... Adam On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Andersson sander...@gmail.com mailto:sander...@gmail.com wrote: The hours you spend on trying to get that to work you could have spent on buying a Momentum or ImplosiaFX license :) Here are two things you can do. 1.) Brute force method But you can break up the mesh with ice and then freeze the geo, and then extract the pieces. Then use those to simulate. 2.) OpenSource Do it in Blender. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs I would chose Option 2, but that's me... :) best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com mailto:g...@cannonballbunny.com wrote: Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G -- stefan andersson - digital janitor - http://sanders3d.wordpress.com http://sanders3d.wordpress.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5835 - Release Date: 10/16/12
Re: ICE rdb noob question
I don't know.. maybe you just cant teach an old animator new software.. and I'm not even old :P On 2012/10/17 01:41 PM, Thomas Volkmann wrote: I thought the interface argument was valid before they did the rebuild does it still feel so bad to those that are not used to it? Personally I like it a lot, but then I originally started learning 3D in Blender :/ /Thomas Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com hat am 17. Oktober 2012 um 13:23 geschrieben: I forgot about the free momentum 1 and the free implosia over at rray.de For this job, those did the trick. Thanks for the advice. oh and Stefan... Blender... Really?? No one has time to learn that interface, I would rather erase my memory and learn the zbrush interface again, before I try and do something more than import/export in blender. (I’m kidding of course before this starts a flame war.) G On 2012/10/17 01:22 AM, Adam Sale wrote: momentum and implosia... done.. You can break up with ICE http://vimeo.com/28138992 but you will need to extract the islands individually to run with vanilla bullet rbds.. And ICE shatter has issues with complex shapes, lots of concavities. Which is where Implosia shines. The default shattering with momentum is ok, but pales next to IFX the two plugins should really become one, so interdependent they are. Andy Moorer has this ICE plug thats pretty cool Emit SRT Matched Instances http://andy.moonbase.net/downloads could provide useful for you... Adam On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Andersson sander...@gmail.com mailto:sander...@gmail.com wrote: The hours you spend on trying to get that to work you could have spent on buying a Momentum or ImplosiaFX license :) Here are two things you can do. 1.) Brute force method But you can break up the mesh with ice and then freeze the geo, and then extract the pieces. Then use those to simulate. 2.) OpenSource Do it in Blender. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs I would chose Option 2, but that's me... :) best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com mailto:g...@cannonballbunny.com wrote: Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G -- stefan andersson - digital janitor - http://sanders3d.wordpress.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5835 - Release Date: 10/16/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5836 - Release Date: 10/16/12
Re: ICE rdb noob question
I built the emit srt-matched instances compound a few years back prior to momentum and implosia entering the scene. The idea was to pre-cut geometry using pre-ice scripts that are probably still around (though later I began to use Houdini to make fragmented models, looked better.) the compound then simply makes I standing all the fragments easy for use with standard ice RBDs. Today I too would just use MoM/implosia, but it's not difficult to old-school shattering, just irritating . :) On Oct 16, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com wrote: momentum and implosia... done.. You can break up with ICE http://vimeo.com/28138992 but you will need to extract the islands individually to run with vanilla bullet rbds.. And ICE shatter has issues with complex shapes, lots of concavities. Which is where Implosia shines. The default shattering with momentum is ok, but pales next to IFX the two plugins should really become one, so interdependent they are. Andy Moorer has this ICE plug thats pretty cool Emit SRT Matched Instances http://andy.moonbase.net/downloads could provide useful for you... Adam On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Andersson sander...@gmail.com wrote: The hours you spend on trying to get that to work you could have spent on buying a Momentum or ImplosiaFX license :) Here are two things you can do. 1.) Brute force method But you can break up the mesh with ice and then freeze the geo, and then extract the pieces. Then use those to simulate. 2.) OpenSource Do it in Blender. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs I would chose Option 2, but that's me... :) best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com wrote: Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G -- stefan andersson - digital janitor - http://sanders3d.wordpress.com
Re: ICE rdb noob question
The opensource versions of both Implosia and Momentum are quite usable... of course if you are in production you probably want the latest and greatest. Specially since they are not that expensive.
Re: ICE rdb noob question
@$#%!ing autocorrect... I standing = instancing. That's what I get for using mobile devices for email. And btw for the record Siri is a useless $@!%.. ;) the compound then simply makes I standing all the fragments easy for use with standard ice RBDs.
Re: ICE rdb noob question
See, it can't even spell 'Autocowrecked' right tsk tsk... -Tim C. On 10/17/2012 3:31 PM, Andy Moorer wrote: @$#%!ing autocorrect... I standing = instancing. That's what I get for using mobile devices for email. And btw for the record Siri is a useless $@!%.. ;) the compound then simply makes I standing all the fragments easy for use with standard ice RBDs. -- Signature
ICE rdb noob question
Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G
Re: ICE rdb noob question
The hours you spend on trying to get that to work you could have spent on buying a Momentum or ImplosiaFX license :) Here are two things you can do. 1.) Brute force method But you can break up the mesh with ice and then freeze the geo, and then extract the pieces. Then use those to simulate. 2.) OpenSource Do it in Blender. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs I would chose Option 2, but that's me... :) best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com wrote: Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G -- stefan andersson - digital janitor - http://sanders3d.wordpress.com
Re: ICE rdb noob question
momentum and implosia... done.. You can break up with ICE http://vimeo.com/28138992 but you will need to extract the islands individually to run with vanilla bullet rbds.. And ICE shatter has issues with complex shapes, lots of concavities. Which is where Implosia shines. The default shattering with momentum is ok, but pales next to IFX the two plugins should really become one, so interdependent they are. Andy Moorer has this ICE plug thats pretty cool Emit SRT Matched Instances http://andy.moonbase.net/downloads could provide useful for you... Adam On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Andersson sander...@gmail.comwrote: The hours you spend on trying to get that to work you could have spent on buying a Momentum or ImplosiaFX license :) Here are two things you can do. 1.) Brute force method But you can break up the mesh with ice and then freeze the geo, and then extract the pieces. Then use those to simulate. 2.) OpenSource Do it in Blender. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0j4h2zERs I would chose Option 2, but that's me... :) best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gerbrand Nel g...@cannonballbunny.com wrote: Hey guys I know you can do RDB in ice using particles, but I want to fracture and simulate chunks breaking apart. I know Momentum does this with two buttons, but I don't own that yet, and this is a small job so I cant spend half my budget on software. Can this be done with out of the box softimage in ICE? It seems like it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty stumped with how to start. Up until now I've always done this kind of stuff with the normal non-ICE RDB in soft, but I'd like to try it in ICE if possible Thanks G -- stefan andersson - digital janitor - http://sanders3d.wordpress.com
