Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Angus Davidson]

Its one of the major Pros of a forum as opposed to a mailing list. Its somewhat 
easy to make this kind of mistake, as well as hijacking threads (which is one 
of the things I have to apologise for from time to time)

Forums also allow for segregation of topics , proper admin control, and with 
apps like tap talk improving  lot its still easy for people to use on the go.

Kind regards

Angus

From: Sajjad Amjad mailto:sajjad.am...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: 
"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Date: Monday 10 March 2014 at 9:44 AM
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad 
Peebler


And here I was, making some popcorn. Guess it's back to the mindless violence 
threads for me.

On 10 Mar 2014 06:04, "Raffaele Fragapane" 
mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Bugger! That last mail was supposed to be private.

Apologies in advance if anybody finds it out of line, particularly to Sam.
Doesn't read all that bad, nor was it meant to, but still, I was in another 
Mailing List's mode (default is to reply to poster, not to list) and sent it to 
an ever so slightly wider audience than intended.



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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sajjad Amjad]

And here I was, making some popcorn. Guess it's back to the mindless
violence threads for me.
On 10 Mar 2014 06:04, "Raffaele Fragapane" 
wrote:

> Bugger! That last mail was supposed to be private.
>
> Apologies in advance if anybody finds it out of line, particularly to Sam.
> Doesn't read all that bad, nor was it meant to, but still, I was in
> another Mailing List's mode (default is to reply to poster, not to list)
> and sent it to an ever so slightly wider audience than intended.
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Bugger! That last mail was supposed to be private.

Apologies in advance if anybody finds it out of line, particularly to Sam.
Doesn't read all that bad, nor was it meant to, but still, I was in another
Mailing List's mode (default is to reply to poster, not to list) and sent
it to an ever so slightly wider audience than intended.

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Sam, I know you have some serious resentment for LW and for Modo's heritage.
I think you made your point, and anybody thinking Modo is a replacement for
the whole extent of what Soft could potentially do would be a fool, nor
this is being implied anywhere by Brad, Tim, or even myself when I
forwarded Brad's offer.

For many, however, it might be a good companion to Soft in the years to
come, or a good companion to Maya (given Maya sucks at both modelling and
rendering, both things Modo caters to respectfully).

Have some faith in people that they are not complete morons who can't
operate at the most basic levels and will throw money at the first person
coming in with some marketing, and have some respect for the decisions of
those who did buy into on what you might think of as a whim, that they
might have done it for reasons and motives you don't share or understand.

As for Brad's motives, he wrote a lengthy post about the dichotomy of it
which I think has been reposted all over the place already. You can find it
here if you haven't read it:
http://community.thefoundry.co.uk/discussion/topic.aspx?f=3&t=85630

You get way, wy too personal when LW or Modo are involved. I thought
you had done remarkably well insofar, don't give in now and start replying
to every single mail mentioning Modo having a go at them, please. Trust
your peers on this list to be discerning enough on their own if you have no
recent and unbiased knowledge to share.

P.S.
I don't own Modo, Brad offered me nothing when I approached him, and I
haven't asked him anything. I have no plans to use it, nor particularly
care for it at present time, but that's because for what I do it's not
viable. But then for me Houdini isn't viable either, yet you will find
people swearing that using it made their arms bigger, their penis longer,
and gave them super powers.
To each their own, man.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Sam Bowling  wrote:

> From the sound of it, there are a lot of people who have or are ready to
> put down a lot of money to buy Modo. I think this would be a huge mistake.
> As you said, Modo is not a complete replacement for Softimage, but the
> offers (such as the one from Brad) do indeed imply that. Honestly, these
> kind of offers happen every time a major 3d software (or probably any major
> software) gets discontinued. Brad didn't just do this out of the goodness
> of his heart (Although I do think he is a good guy), he did it because he
> knew he would be able to get a lot of new users. Maxon did the same thing
> when all the lightwave developers bailed and started Modo. I still have my
> copy of Cinema 4d sitting on a shelf where I put it after I realized that I
> really didn't like the software.
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sam Bowling]

>From the sound of it, there are a lot of people who have or are ready to put
down a lot of money to buy Modo. I think this would be a huge mistake. As
you said, Modo is not a complete replacement for Softimage, but the offers
(such as the one from Brad) do indeed imply that. Honestly, these kind of
offers happen every time a major 3d software (or probably any major
software) gets discontinued. Brad didn't just do this out of the goodness of
his heart (Although I do think he is a good guy), he did it because he knew
he would be able to get a lot of new users. Maxon did the same thing  when
all the lightwave developers bailed and started Modo. I still have my copy
of Cinema 4d sitting on a shelf where I put it after I realized that I
really didn't like the software. 

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Crowson
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:17 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from
Brad Peebler

 

Yes I agree, and here's my point: I think people would do that anyway. I
don't think we have a bunch of fools around here who just buy stuff
willy-nilly. I myself have been very careful to explicitly emphasize the
need for people to evaluate things for themselves and take responsibility,
precisely because I know first-hand that Modo is not a full replacement for
Softimage (I still have yet to hear anyone even claim that, so I see that as
a straw man). There's enough disgruntlement being poured out in emails this
week as it is, and I just found Sam's tone to be totally counterproductive.
I think there's room to present facts and make assessments relative to
specific usage cases... I'm just tired of the emotional hooplah over this
stuff. Figure it out for yourself and make your decisions in your own time. 

-Tim

On 3/8/2014 11:57 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

No Sam has a valid point. Regardless of whether there are still issues (or
ever were) that Sam experienced, people need to take a huge step back. Stop
running to the next big thing that is being advertised. Take your time, you
have plenty. Really evaluate these apps in production and not just twiddling
around on the weekend. It's not going to hurt anyone if you do, however
rushing into it will. 





Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

 

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Tim Crowson
 wrote:

I'm just hearing a lot of hate mixed in with some factual inaccuracies. I
guess the other grown-ups here should be grateful they have you watching
their backs?

-Tim

 

-- 

 

 

RE: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sam Bowling]

Please, clear up my inaccuracies. As I said, I haven’t used the program in a
very long time. When I used the program, it had a LOT of issues. It was
great compared to Lightwave, but it was nothing compared to Softimage.  All
the issues may have been fixed by now, but Modo is not Softimage and some
users may really not the way it works. 

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Crowson
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 9:35 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from
Brad Peebler

 

I'm just hearing a lot of hate mixed in with some factual inaccuracies. I
guess the other grown-ups here should be grateful they have you watching
their backs?

-Tim

On 3/7/2014 10:32 PM, Sam Bowling wrote:

For Gods sake try the demo before you buy! Last I used Modo (a very long
time ago) it was severely lacking in a lot of features. Many may have been
fixed, but Many may have not. Curves were a complete joke when I used it.
They were absolutely terrible. Once you draw out your curve and drop the
curve tool they would be converted to a chain of 2 point polygons which
could then only be edited like polygons. Editing polygons had a habit of
making a bunch of 2 point polygons which had to be cleaned up. The Photoshop
like texturing system is terrible. Everyone else has  node based systems and
they still have this terrible layers system.  There are two different
rotation tools which are sometimes needed in different situation (I can’t
remember exactly why, but I know I never needed to use 2 different rotation
tools before… or since) which I really didn’t like.  Then there’s the
interface. I really, really dislike they interface. It’s like everything was
just thrown in there with very little thought with the excuse that “you can
arrange it however you like”. Compared to Softimage where everything has
it’s logical place to be, I find the Modo interface feels much like trying
to pick up a needle with boxing gloves on. Many of these issues may have
been fixed/improved, but even at 50% off, this program is no bargain if you
can’t stands to use it.  

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele
Fragapane
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 2:44 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from
Brad Peebler

 

Try it, and of you like it get in touch with Brad. He'll honour that offer
for longer than the code has been out for (though not forever obviously).
The code itself was just a symbolic gesture, modo itself isn't even the
point ,the point is showing how some companies can be both agile and
considerate while having a name and a face talking responsibility.

On 8 Mar 2014 09:31, "Maurício PC"  wrote:

I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
code was working. Now the code is gone.

 

Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:

Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate
Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.

 

http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/

 

This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance (around
$550). 

I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade within
the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250, depending on
the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your half-price MODO
and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total investment around
$2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it releases. Again it
involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly reasonable. Their
maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO alone. 

 

Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
path).

 

 

 

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:






Webinar sounds great.  +1

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado 
wrote:

+1

 

2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :

 

Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.

 

On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:

only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user
(since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar
too

 

Robert

 




 

2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :

 

me too please

 

:)

-- 

Jon Swindells

jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm

 

 

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:

I'm interested in the webinar as well.

 

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Freg

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Dan Neumann]

I am interested in the webinar.
On Mar 6, 2014 8:50 AM, "Tim Crowson" 
wrote:

>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>
>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>
>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
> spammed. :)*
>
>
> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Eric Thivierge]

It's my point exactly that people need to evaluate these products. No
reason to jump the gun and straight out buy a license at one of these 50%
off deals just to find out you wasted your money on an app that's not going
to cover what you need it to. Any one of these companies should be knocking
down your door and going out of their way to provide you with extended
evals so you can do just that in production. I want people to evaluate this
stuff. Any company forcing you to decide right now is just preying on
people because of the discontinuation.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Angus Davidson wrote:

>  Hi Eric
>
>  I dont think anyone is suggesting mass migrating studios to
> modo/houdini/lw now. However these deals allow folks to get a  copy for
> evaluation. We did exactly that in November of Last year (when everyone was
> getting upset with folks like me who were warning them this was coming). It
> takes longer then 15 days to do a proper evaluation if your doing it
> properly.
>
>  Its not about being foolish , but rather being forward thinking and
> putting yourself in a position to make the best decision.
>
>  This was fortunate in our case because the Arc Licences are set to
> expire on the 28th of this month. Unlike the commercial folks we dont have
> the safety net of april 2016.
>
>  Kind regards
>
>  Angus
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Eric Thivierge [ethivie...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 08 March 2014 08:31 PM
>
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word
> from Brad Peebler
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Tim Crowson <
> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm just tired of the emotional hooplah over this stuff.
>
>
> Heh, you should wait a few months then. :) Honestly though. I'm not saying
> there are fools but there are people already buying into these deals. Just
> wait a few months ffs.
>
> 
> Eric Thivierge
> http://www.ethivierge.com
>
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RE: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Angus Davidson]

Hi Eric

I dont think anyone is suggesting mass migrating studios to modo/houdini/lw 
now. However these deals allow folks to get a  copy for evaluation. We did 
exactly that in November of Last year (when everyone was getting upset with 
folks like me who were warning them this was coming). It takes longer then 15 
days to do a proper evaluation if your doing it properly.

Its not about being foolish , but rather being forward thinking and putting 
yourself in a position to make the best decision.

This was fortunate in our case because the Arc Licences are set to expire on 
the 28th of this month. Unlike the commercial folks we dont have the safety net 
of april 2016.

Kind regards

Angus



From: Eric Thivierge [ethivie...@gmail.com]
Sent: 08 March 2014 08:31 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad 
Peebler


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Tim Crowson 
mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>> wrote:
I'm just tired of the emotional hooplah over this stuff.

Heh, you should wait a few months then. :) Honestly though. I'm not saying 
there are fools but there are people already buying into these deals. Just wait 
a few months ffs.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com



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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Eric Thivierge]

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Tim Crowson
wrote:

> I'm just tired of the emotional hooplah over this stuff.


Heh, you should wait a few months then. :) Honestly though. I'm not saying
there are fools but there are people already buying into these deals. Just
wait a few months ffs.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Tim Crowson]

Yes I agree, and here's my point: I think people would do that anyway. I 
don't think we have a bunch of fools around here who just buy stuff 
willy-nilly. I myself have been very careful to explicitly emphasize the 
need for people to evaluate things for themselves and take 
responsibility, precisely because I know first-hand that Modo is not a 
full replacement for Softimage (I still have yet to hear anyone even 
claim that, so I see that as a straw man). There's enough disgruntlement 
being poured out in emails this week as it is, and I just found Sam's 
tone to be totally counterproductive.  I think there's room to present 
facts and make assessments relative to specific usage cases... I'm just 
tired of the emotional hooplah over this stuff. Figure it out for 
yourself and make your decisions in your own time.


-Tim

On 3/8/2014 11:57 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote:
No Sam has a valid point. Regardless of whether there are still issues 
(or ever were) that Sam experienced, people need to take a huge step 
back. Stop running to the next big thing that is being advertised. 
Take your time, you have plenty. Really evaluate these apps in 
production and not just twiddling around on the weekend. It's not 
going to hurt anyone if you do, however rushing into it will.



Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Tim Crowson 
> wrote:


I'm just hearing a lot of hate mixed in with some factual
inaccuracies. I guess the other grown-ups here should be grateful
they have you watching their backs?

-Tim



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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Eric Thivierge]

No Sam has a valid point. Regardless of whether there are still issues (or
ever were) that Sam experienced, people need to take a huge step back. Stop
running to the next big thing that is being advertised. Take your time, you
have plenty. Really evaluate these apps in production and not just
twiddling around on the weekend. It's not going to hurt anyone if you do,
however rushing into it will.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Tim Crowson  wrote:

>  I'm just hearing a lot of hate mixed in with some factual inaccuracies. I
> guess the other grown-ups here should be grateful they have you watching
> their backs?
>
> -Tim
>

RE: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sam Bowling]

For Gods sake try the demo before you buy! Last I used Modo (a very long
time ago) it was severely lacking in a lot of features. Many may have been
fixed, but Many may have not. Curves were a complete joke when I used it.
They were absolutely terrible. Once you draw out your curve and drop the
curve tool they would be converted to a chain of 2 point polygons which
could then only be edited like polygons. Editing polygons had a habit of
making a bunch of 2 point polygons which had to be cleaned up. The Photoshop
like texturing system is terrible. Everyone else has  node based systems and
they still have this terrible layers system.  There are two different
rotation tools which are sometimes needed in different situation (I can’t
remember exactly why, but I know I never needed to use 2 different rotation
tools before… or since) which I really didn’t like.  Then there’s the
interface. I really, really dislike they interface. It’s like everything was
just thrown in there with very little thought with the excuse that “you can
arrange it however you like”. Compared to Softimage where everything has
it’s logical place to be, I find the Modo interface feels much like trying
to pick up a needle with boxing gloves on. Many of these issues may have
been fixed/improved, but even at 50% off, this program is no bargain if you
can’t stands to use it.  

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele
Fragapane
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 2:44 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from
Brad Peebler

 

Try it, and of you like it get in touch with Brad. He'll honour that offer
for longer than the code has been out for (though not forever obviously).
The code itself was just a symbolic gesture, modo itself isn't even the
point ,the point is showing how some companies can be both agile and
considerate while having a name and a face talking responsibility.

On 8 Mar 2014 09:31, "Maurício PC"  wrote:

I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
code was working. Now the code is gone.

 

Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:

Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate
Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.

 

http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/

 

This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance (around
$550). 

I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade within
the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250, depending on
the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your half-price MODO
and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total investment around
$2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it releases. Again it
involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly reasonable. Their
maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO alone. 

 

Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
path).

 

 

 

 

On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:





Webinar sounds great.  +1

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado 
wrote:

+1

 

2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :

 

Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.

 

On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:

only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user
(since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar
too

 

Robert

 




 

2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :

 

me too please

 

:)

-- 

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jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm

 

 

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:

I'm interested in the webinar as well.

 

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman 
wrote:

 

Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.

 

 

 

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén
 wrote:

 

 

I'm also interested in the webinar.

 

On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall  wrote:

 

I wouldn't mind knowing more

 

 

On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:

 

+1 on webinar

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Maurício PC]

Mmm ...

I just waiting for my Modo order to go through. Add to that Houdini and I
may dismiss Maya then. I'll still watch the training because I guess it'll
give me some ideas of the workings in FX. Guess that's better than nothing.

I never really liked Maya, but I got the impression it was my best bet.
See, even for this the list is amazing. :)


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Maya is used for FX in places where it's used end-to-end, usually places
> with little concern for, or need to, have multi software pipes.
> Anybody who can afford to deploy and tie together different pieces of
> software has moved partially or entirely to Houdini for FX work over the
> last five years or so.
>
> Animal Logic, Weta, DNeg, Framestore, DW, D2, RnH, all adopted to
> different extents. It's a much longer list. Quite a few high end TVC
> boutiques too. The Mill I think has had pretty decent results too, but
> someone working there should confirm, I can't speak for them.
> Even Disney and Pixar I believe, but not 100% sure to what extent and
> probably not super pervasively as they had more than one very interesting
> technique still tied to Maya user facing clients (XGen the most known, but
> that's sort of more charFX and env than FX).
>
> Maya tends to see presence only for simplistic stuff, or when there's a
> certain amount of legacy, or heritage in the good cases, that's still
> functional.
>
> Houdini can be a pain int he arse for some things, but the sheer amount of
> canned tools, solvers, and open ended graphs available covers practically
> the whole range of FX with no plugins, and Mantra is getting better instead
> of being obsoleted like most other integrated rendering engines out there
> (I think only Modo and Houdini currently have engines that are not
> routinely and instantly supplanted by any user who can).
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Maurício PC  wrote:
>
>> Really? Damnit!
>>
>> I thought I would have a good change using Maya ... I even bought some
>> training. lol
>>
>> Got that impression from all schools that I hear well teaching Maya and
>> Houdini for FX, like Lost Boys, Gnomon. :/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For high end fx work Maya offers few to none opportunities. Houdini is
>>> king everywhere for FX, and in large film shops, again talking purely FX,
>>> it's adoption is scary close to 100%.
>>> Maya holds a similar monopoly only and exclusively for animation.
>>> On 8 Mar 2014 09:47, "Maurício PC"  wrote:
>>>
 Yes ... I got word from Brad.

 It's always nice when you are able to get in touch with people who
 makes decisions. I'll buy Modo for my personal tool. I like where they are
 taking it.


 As for professional ... hell, I still use 3ds Max for FX and I'm
 currently learning Maya for FX also. I could go to Houdini, but that will
 have to wait as the job opportunities are greater in AD side.

 Cheers.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Michael Clarke 
 wrote:

> From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to
> the list. I think they just had to remove the code because word spread too
> quickly.
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC  wrote:
>
> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when
> the code was working. Now the code is gone.
>
> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke 
> wrote:
>
>> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to
>> incorporate Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
>>
>> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
>>
>> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
>> (around $550).
>> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers
>> look interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and 
>> upgrade
>> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
>> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
>> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
>> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
>> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
>> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading 
>> MODO
>> alone.
>>
>> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
>> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
>> path).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Maya is used for FX in places where it's used end-to-end, usually places
with little concern for, or need to, have multi software pipes.
Anybody who can afford to deploy and tie together different pieces of
software has moved partially or entirely to Houdini for FX work over the
last five years or so.

Animal Logic, Weta, DNeg, Framestore, DW, D2, RnH, all adopted to different
extents. It's a much longer list. Quite a few high end TVC boutiques too.
The Mill I think has had pretty decent results too, but someone working
there should confirm, I can't speak for them.
Even Disney and Pixar I believe, but not 100% sure to what extent and
probably not super pervasively as they had more than one very interesting
technique still tied to Maya user facing clients (XGen the most known, but
that's sort of more charFX and env than FX).

Maya tends to see presence only for simplistic stuff, or when there's a
certain amount of legacy, or heritage in the good cases, that's still
functional.

Houdini can be a pain int he arse for some things, but the sheer amount of
canned tools, solvers, and open ended graphs available covers practically
the whole range of FX with no plugins, and Mantra is getting better instead
of being obsoleted like most other integrated rendering engines out there
(I think only Modo and Houdini currently have engines that are not
routinely and instantly supplanted by any user who can).


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Maurício PC  wrote:

> Really? Damnit!
>
> I thought I would have a good change using Maya ... I even bought some
> training. lol
>
> Got that impression from all schools that I hear well teaching Maya and
> Houdini for FX, like Lost Boys, Gnomon. :/
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> For high end fx work Maya offers few to none opportunities. Houdini is
>> king everywhere for FX, and in large film shops, again talking purely FX,
>> it's adoption is scary close to 100%.
>> Maya holds a similar monopoly only and exclusively for animation.
>> On 8 Mar 2014 09:47, "Maurício PC"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes ... I got word from Brad.
>>>
>>> It's always nice when you are able to get in touch with people who makes
>>> decisions. I'll buy Modo for my personal tool. I like where they are taking
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> As for professional ... hell, I still use 3ds Max for FX and I'm
>>> currently learning Maya for FX also. I could go to Houdini, but that will
>>> have to wait as the job opportunities are greater in AD side.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>>>
 From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to the
 list. I think they just had to remove the code because word spread too
 quickly.



 On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC  wrote:

 I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when
 the code was working. Now the code is gone.

 Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke 
 wrote:

> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to
> incorporate Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
>
> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
>
> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
> (around $550).
> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers
> look interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade
> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO
> alone.
>
> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
> path).
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison 
> wrote:
>
> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado <
> malcriad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>>
>> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>>>
 only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage
 user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an
 webinar too

 Robert



 2014-03-07 16:37 GM

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Try it, and of you like it get in touch with Brad. He'll honour that offer
for longer than the code has been out for (though not forever obviously).
The code itself was just a symbolic gesture, modo itself isn't even the
point ,the point is showing how some companies can be both agile and
considerate while having a name and a face talking responsibility.
On 8 Mar 2014 09:31, "Maurício PC"  wrote:

> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
> code was working. Now the code is gone.
>
> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>
>> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate
>> Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
>>
>> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
>>
>> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
>> (around $550).
>> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
>> interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade
>> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
>> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
>> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
>> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
>> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
>> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO
>> alone.
>>
>> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
>> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
>> path).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:
>>
>> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>>>
>>> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.


 On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:

> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage
> user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an
> webinar too
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>
>  me too please
>>
>> :)
>> --
>>  Jon Swindells
>>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman <
>> alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
>> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>
>>
>> +1 on webinar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chris Marshall
>> Mint Motion Limited
>> 029 20 37 27 57
>> 07730 533 115
>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> bill hinkson
>> animator & designer
>> http://billhinksondesign.com
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Thomlison
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Clarke Design
>> Blue C Studios
>> 713-927-9835
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> gonebadfx.com
> - your source for bad fx
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Maurício PC]

I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
code was working. Now the code is gone.

Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:

> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate
> Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
>
> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
>
> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
> (around $550).
> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
> interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade
> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO
> alone.
>
> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
> path).
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:
>
> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>>
>> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>>>
 only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage
 user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an
 webinar too

 Robert



 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :

  me too please
>
> :)
> --
>  Jon Swindells
>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>
> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman  > wrote:
>
>
> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
> wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>
>
> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>
>
> +1 on webinar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Marshall
> Mint Motion Limited
> 029 20 37 27 57
> 07730 533 115
> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> bill hinkson
> animator & designer
> http://billhinksondesign.com
>
>

>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dave Thomlison
>
>
>
> Michael Clarke Design
> Blue C Studios
> 713-927-9835
>
>


-- 
gonebadfx.com
- your source for bad fx

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Maurício PC]

Really? Damnit!

I thought I would have a good change using Maya ... I even bought some
training. lol

Got that impression from all schools that I hear well teaching Maya and
Houdini for FX, like Lost Boys, Gnomon. :/


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> For high end fx work Maya offers few to none opportunities. Houdini is
> king everywhere for FX, and in large film shops, again talking purely FX,
> it's adoption is scary close to 100%.
> Maya holds a similar monopoly only and exclusively for animation.
> On 8 Mar 2014 09:47, "Maurício PC"  wrote:
>
>> Yes ... I got word from Brad.
>>
>> It's always nice when you are able to get in touch with people who makes
>> decisions. I'll buy Modo for my personal tool. I like where they are taking
>> it.
>>
>>
>> As for professional ... hell, I still use 3ds Max for FX and I'm
>> currently learning Maya for FX also. I could go to Houdini, but that will
>> have to wait as the job opportunities are greater in AD side.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to the
>>> list. I think they just had to remove the code because word spread too
>>> quickly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
>>> code was working. Now the code is gone.
>>>
>>> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>>>
 Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to
 incorporate Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.

 http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/

 This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
 (around $550).
 I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
 interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade
 within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
 depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
 half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
 investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
 releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
 reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO
 alone.

 Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
 particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
 path).




 On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison 
 wrote:

 Webinar sounds great.  +1


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado <
 malcriad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
>
> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>
> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>>
>>> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage
>>> user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an
>>> webinar too
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells 
>>> :
>>>
>>>  me too please

 :)
 --
  Jon Swindells
  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm



 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:

 I'm interested in the webinar as well.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman <
 alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:


 Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.



 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
 mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:



 I'm also interested in the webinar.

 On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
 wrote:


 I wouldn't mind knowing more


 On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:


 +1 on webinar







 --
 *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
 Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com




 --

 Chris Marshall
 Mint Motion Limited
 029 20 37 27 57
 07730 533 115
 www.mintmotion.co.uk







 --
 bill hinkson
 animator & designer
 http://billhinksondesign.com


>>>
>>
>


 

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Raffaele Fragapane]

For high end fx work Maya offers few to none opportunities. Houdini is king
everywhere for FX, and in large film shops, again talking purely FX, it's
adoption is scary close to 100%.
Maya holds a similar monopoly only and exclusively for animation.
On 8 Mar 2014 09:47, "Maurício PC"  wrote:

> Yes ... I got word from Brad.
>
> It's always nice when you are able to get in touch with people who makes
> decisions. I'll buy Modo for my personal tool. I like where they are taking
> it.
>
>
> As for professional ... hell, I still use 3ds Max for FX and I'm currently
> learning Maya for FX also. I could go to Houdini, but that will have to
> wait as the job opportunities are greater in AD side.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>
>> From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to the
>> list. I think they just had to remove the code because word spread too
>> quickly.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC  wrote:
>>
>> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
>> code was working. Now the code is gone.
>>
>> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to
>>> incorporate Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
>>>
>>> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
>>>
>>> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
>>> (around $550).
>>> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
>>> interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade
>>> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
>>> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
>>> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
>>> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
>>> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
>>> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO
>>> alone.
>>>
>>> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
>>> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
>>> path).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado >> > wrote:
>>>
 +1


 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :

 Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>
>
> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>
>> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage
>> user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an
>> webinar too
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>>
>>  me too please
>>>
>>> :)
>>> --
>>>  Jon Swindells
>>>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman <
>>> alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
>>> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 on webinar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chris Marshall
>>> Mint Motion Limited
>>> 029 20 37 27 57
>>> 07730 533 115
>>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> bill hinkson
>>> animator & designer
>>> http://billhinksondesign.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Thomlison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Clarke Design
>>> Blue C Studios
>>> 713-927-9835
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> gonebadfx.com
>> - your source for bad fx
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Clarke Design
>> Blue C Studios
>> 713-927-9835
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> gonebadfx.com
> - your source for bad fx
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Michael Clarke]

From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to the list. I 
think they just had to remove the code because word spread too quickly.



On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC  wrote:

> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the code 
> was working. Now the code is gone.
> 
> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:
> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate 
> Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
> 
> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
> 
> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance (around 
> $550). 
> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look 
> interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade within 
> the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250, depending on 
> the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your half-price MODO 
> and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total investment around 
> $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it releases. Again it 
> involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly reasonable. Their 
> maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO alone. 
> 
> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in 
> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good path).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:
> 
>> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado  
>> wrote:
>> +1
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>> 
>> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user 
>> (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar too
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>> 
>> me too please
>>  
>> :)
>> -- 
>> Jon Swindells
>> jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>>  
>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall  wrote:
>>>  
>>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>>  
>>> +1 on webinar
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> Greg Maguire | Inlifesize
>>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>> g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Chris Marshall
>>> Mint Motion Limited
>>> 029 20 37 27 57
>>> 07730 533 115
>>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> bill hinkson
>>> animator & designer
>>> http://billhinksondesign.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dave Thomlison
> 
> 
> Michael Clarke Design
> Blue C Studios
> 713-927-9835
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> gonebadfx.com
> - your source for bad fx


Michael Clarke Design
Blue C Studios
713-927-9835

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Maurício PC]

Yes ... I got word from Brad.

It's always nice when you are able to get in touch with people who makes
decisions. I'll buy Modo for my personal tool. I like where they are taking
it.


As for professional ... hell, I still use 3ds Max for FX and I'm currently
learning Maya for FX also. I could go to Houdini, but that will have to
wait as the job opportunities are greater in AD side.

Cheers.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:

> From what I gather, some kind of incentive will still be offered to the
> list. I think they just had to remove the code because word spread too
> quickly.
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Maurício PC  wrote:
>
> I'm more than willing to try modo. I guess I should have bought when the
> code was working. Now the code is gone.
>
> Let's keep studying than. But this collective looks really cool.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>
>> Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate
>> Mari into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.
>>
>> http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/
>>
>> This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance
>> (around $550).
>> I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look
>> interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade
>> within the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250,
>> depending on the upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your
>> half-price MODO and upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total
>> investment around $2000) which would give you free updates to 801 when it
>> releases. Again it involves a maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly
>> reasonable. Their maintenance is just a few bucks more than upgrading MODO
>> alone.
>>
>> Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in
>> particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good
>> path).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:
>>
>> Webinar sounds great.  +1
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>>>
>>> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.


 On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:

> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage
> user (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an
> webinar too
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>
>  me too please
>>
>> :)
>> --
>>  Jon Swindells
>>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman <
>> alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
>> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>
>>
>> +1 on webinar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chris Marshall
>> Mint Motion Limited
>> 029 20 37 27 57
>> 07730 533 115
>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> bill hinkson
>> animator & designer
>> http://billhinksondesign.com
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Thomlison
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Clarke Design
>> Blue C Studios
>> 713-927-9835
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> gonebadfx.com
> - your source for bad fx
>
>
>
> Michael Clarke Design
> Blue C Studios
> 713-927-9835
>
>


-- 
gonebadfx.com
- your source for bad fx

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Michael Clarke]

Don't know if anyone has seen this, but for anyone wanting to incorporate Mari 
into their workflow, the Foundry offers a nice bundle.

http://blog.motionmedia.com/upgrade-foundry-creation-collective/

This apparently works if you don't mind being on annual maintenance (around 
$550). 
I'm not yet sold on MODO (open to considering it), but the numbers look 
interesting. If you were to buy MODO alone for half price and upgrade within 
the year to 801, you would have invested around $1100 - $1250, depending on the 
upgrade offer. This bundle would allow you to take your half-price MODO and 
upgrade to the bundle for an additional $1240 (total investment around $2000) 
which would give you free updates to 801 when it releases. Again it involves a 
maintenance plan, but the cost is fairly reasonable. Their maintenance is just 
a few bucks more than upgrading MODO alone. 

Just pointing out the deal. It may or may not work for anyone here in 
particular, but it looked interesting (assuming MODO looks like a good path).




On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Dave Thomlison  wrote:

> Webinar sounds great.  +1
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado  
> wrote:
> +1
> 
> 
> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
> 
> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
> 
> 
> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user 
> (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar too
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
> 
> me too please
>  
> :)
> -- 
> Jon Swindells
> jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>  
>  
>  
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>  
>>  
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman  
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>  
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall  wrote:
>>  
>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>  
>>  
>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>  
>> +1 on webinar
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> Greg Maguire | Inlifesize
>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>> g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> 
>> Chris Marshall
>> Mint Motion Limited
>> 029 20 37 27 57
>> 07730 533 115
>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> bill hinkson
>> animator & designer
>> http://billhinksondesign.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave Thomlison


Michael Clarke Design
Blue C Studios
713-927-9835

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Dave Thomlison]

Webinar sounds great.  +1


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Francisco Criado wrote:

> +1
>
>
> 2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :
>
> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>>
>>> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user
>>> (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar
>>> too
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>>>
>>>  me too please

 :)
 --
  Jon Swindells
  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm



 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:

 I'm interested in the webinar as well.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman 
 wrote:


 Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.



 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
 mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:



 I'm also interested in the webinar.

 On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
 wrote:


 I wouldn't mind knowing more


 On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:


 +1 on webinar







 --

 *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
 Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com




 --

 Chris Marshall
 Mint Motion Limited
 029 20 37 27 57
 07730 533 115
 www.mintmotion.co.uk







 --
 bill hinkson
 animator & designer
 http://billhinksondesign.com


>>>
>>
>


-- 
Dave Thomlison

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Francisco Criado]

+1


2014-03-07 14:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin mc bride :

> Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.
>
>
> On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:
>
>> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user
>> (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar
>> too
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>>
>>  me too please
>>>
>>> :)
>>> --
>>>  Jon Swindells
>>>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
>>> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 on webinar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chris Marshall
>>> Mint Motion Limited
>>> 029 20 37 27 57
>>> 07730 533 115
>>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> bill hinkson
>>> animator & designer
>>> http://billhinksondesign.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Kevin mc bride]

Would love a webinar as well. Count me in if its going ahead.


On 7 March 2014 15:56, Robert Kjettrup  wrote:

> only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user
> (since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar
> too
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> 2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :
>
>  me too please
>>
>> :)
>> --
>>  Jon Swindells
>>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
>>
>>
>> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
>> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>
>>
>> +1 on webinar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chris Marshall
>> Mint Motion Limited
>> 029 20 37 27 57
>> 07730 533 115
>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> bill hinkson
>> animator & designer
>> http://billhinksondesign.com
>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Robert Kjettrup]

only been a lurker on this list, but a relative long time Softimage user
(since XSI v4), and considering my next options so count me in an webinar
too

Robert



2014-03-07 16:37 GMT+01:00 Jon Swindells :

>  me too please
>
> :)
> --
>  Jon Swindells
>  jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:
>
> I'm interested in the webinar as well.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
>
>
> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
> wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>
>
> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>
>
> +1 on webinar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>  g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Marshall
> Mint Motion Limited
> 029 20 37 27 57
> 07730 533 115
> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> bill hinkson
> animator & designer
> http://billhinksondesign.com
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Jon Swindells]

me too please



:)

--
Jon Swindells
jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm





On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:00 PM, Bill Hinkson wrote:

I'm interested in the webinar as well.



On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman
<[1]alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:

Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.



On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén
<[2]mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:



I'm also interested in the webinar.


On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall <[3]chrismarshal...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I wouldn't mind knowing more



On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:

+1 on webinar






--

Greg Maguire | Inlifesize
Mobile: [4]+44 7512 361462 | Phone: [5]+44 2890 204739
g...@inlifesize.com | [6]www.inlifesize.com




--
[mint.png]
Chris Marshall
Mint Motion Limited
029 20 37 27 57
07730 533 115
[7]www.mintmotion.co.uk





--
bill hinkson
animator & designer
[8]http://billhinksondesign.com

References

1. mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com
2. mailto:mikael.petter...@gmail.com
3. mailto:chrismarshal...@gmail.com
4. tel:%2B44%207512%20361462
5. tel:%2B44%202890%20204739
6. http://www.inlifesize.com/
7. http://www.mintmotion.co.uk/
8. http://billhinksondesign.com/

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Bill Hinkson]

I'm interested in the webinar as well.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Alan Fregtman wrote:

> Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén <
> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>>
 +1 on webinar



>

 --

 *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
 Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Chris Marshall
>>> Mint Motion Limited
>>> 029 20 37 27 57
>>> 07730 533 115
>>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>


-- 
bill hinkson
animator & designer
http://billhinksondesign.com

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Alan Fregtman]

Me too. I'm curious what else Modo can do well besides modeling.



On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Mikael Pettersén  wrote:

>
> I'm also interested in the webinar.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall 
> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>>
>>
>> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on webinar
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>>> g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chris Marshall
>> Mint Motion Limited
>> 029 20 37 27 57
>> 07730 533 115
>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>
>>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Mikael Pettersén]

I'm also interested in the webinar.

On Friday, March 7, 2014, Chris Marshall  wrote:

> I wouldn't mind knowing more
>
>
> On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> +1 on webinar
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
>> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
>> g...@inlifesize.com 
>>  | www.inlifesize.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Marshall
> Mint Motion Limited
> 029 20 37 27 57
> 07730 533 115
> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Chris Marshall]

I wouldn't mind knowing more


On 7 March 2014 10:33, Greg Maguire  wrote:

> +1 on webinar
>
>
>
>>
>
> --
>
> *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize
> Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739
> g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
>



-- 

Chris Marshall
Mint Motion Limited
029 20 37 27 57
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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Greg Maguire]

+1 on webinar



>

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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[michael johansson]

Count me in as well


2014-03-07 6:59 GMT+01:00 Jason S :

> Hi guys, can you take-up Tim's offer saying that he'd forward to Brad your
> webinar participation request?
> so that it wouldn't look so much like a mass migration, or somewhat
> overwhelming an understandably slightly more silent list?
> That's what I'm going to do myself also being curious :)
>
>
> On 03/04/14 22:30, Tim Crowson wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group, but if
> not, I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>
>
>


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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Jason S]

Hi guys, can you take-up Tim's offer saying that he'd forward to Brad 
your webinar participation request?
so that it wouldn't look so much like a mass migration, or somewhat 
overwhelming an understandably slightly more silent list?

That's what I'm going to do myself also being curious :)


On 03/04/14 22:30, Tim Crowson wrote:

I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group, but if 
not, I'm happy to convey your corporate response.

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Svetoslav Savov]

Count me in for the Webinar


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson  wrote:

>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>
>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>
>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
> spammed. :)*
>
>
> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Greg Punchatz]

I  have been eying Modo for some time... I would love to see what Brad is
cooking up...





On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Rares Halmagean  wrote:

>  I'll give a go!
>
> On 3/6/2014 4:37 PM, Christoph Muetze wrote:
>
> a Modo webinar? Count me in!
>
> Chris
>
> On 06/03/14 22:46, David Rivera wrote:
>
> Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this:
> https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo
> mentality" asap :)
> Thanks.
> David R.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers 
> wrote:
> Count me in as well
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC  <mailto:goneba...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and
> he can convey and express himself really well. Looking forward
> to it.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke
>  <mailto:m...@bluecstudios.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Count me in for the webinar.
>
>
> Very interested to see what could become of the package if
> it has some customer-focused dedication behind it.
>
> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of
> other users. I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya
> path for the moment. The real decision will be whether to
> continue with maintenance or to continue to use SI (an
> probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way,
> i am going to be looking for a package to fill in some
> gaps and MODO looks like a reasonably priced quality
> alternative with a future. If in two years it looks like
> it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to
> AD's offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD
> becomes less difficult. Up until that point — and as some
> have pointed out already, several years beyond, — SI will
> remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
> needs.
>
> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the
> risks. It looks like fairly low cost way of providing a
> buffer to the current dilemma.  It's value as a
> supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it
> ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole
> relationship with The Foundry feels good at this point.
>
> One more thing. AD had some great people working there,
> and most of the folks who interacted with customers were
> extremely dedicated and helpful. What I always sensed from
> them, however, was a disconnect between the support and
> development teams, and the decision makers within the
> company. That's something smaller companies like
> LUX/Foundry can handle differently.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.
>
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares
>  <mailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org>>
> wrote:
>
>     In for that webinar, too...
> ------ Originalnachricht --
> Von: "Tim Crowson"  
> <mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>>
>
> An:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> 
> <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list
> - A new word from Brad Peebler
>
> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore :-)
>
> -Tim
>
>
> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>
> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll
> totally derail things.
>
> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the
> early-mid 1990's.  Brad Peebler was my contact at
> NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
> around how Modo came about.
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim
> Crowson 
> <mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>>wrote:
>
>
> Mmm Paul I

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Dan Pejril]

I too am very interested in the webinar.

I have been hearing only good things about Brad and Modo. Looking 
forward to checking it out.


On 3/6/2014 8:34 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

i'm in


On 6 March 2014 23:13, Petr Zloty > wrote:


I'm interested in that webinar and Modo also.


2014-03-06 23:47 GMT+01:00 Votch mailto:megavo...@gmail.com>>:

I'll take a slice of that webinar.  Might bring a few people
online with me. :) 






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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Maurício PC]

Proton is amazing. I remember him from LightWave time. Great guy.

As for the 50% ... still waiting for Brad to answer the e-mail. I missed
the coupon time (damnit). But I guess his inbox must be impossible to
filter lately.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i'm in
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 23:13, Petr Zloty  wrote:
>
>> I'm interested in that webinar and Modo also.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-06 23:47 GMT+01:00 Votch :
>>
>> I'll take a slice of that webinar.  Might bring a few people online with
>>> me. :)
>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sebastien Sterling]

i'm in


On 6 March 2014 23:13, Petr Zloty  wrote:

> I'm interested in that webinar and Modo also.
>
>
> 2014-03-06 23:47 GMT+01:00 Votch :
>
> I'll take a slice of that webinar.  Might bring a few people online with
>> me. :)
>
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Petr Zloty]

I'm interested in that webinar and Modo also.


2014-03-06 23:47 GMT+01:00 Votch :

> I'll take a slice of that webinar.  Might bring a few people online with
> me. :)

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Votch]

I'll take a slice of that webinar.  Might bring a few people online with
me. :)

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Christoph Muetze]

a Modo webinar? Count me in!

Chris

On 06/03/14 22:46, David Rivera wrote:

Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this:
https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo 
mentality" asap :)

Thanks.
David R.



On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers  wrote:
Count me in as well


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going


On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC mailto:goneba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and
he can convey and express himself really well. Looking forward
to it.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke
mailto:m...@bluecstudios.com>> wrote:

Count me in for the webinar.


Very interested to see what could become of the package if
it has some customer-focused dedication behind it.

I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of
other users. I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya
path for the moment. The real decision will be whether to
continue with maintenance or to continue to use SI (an
probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way,
i am going to be looking for a package to fill in some
gaps and MODO looks like a reasonably priced quality
alternative with a future. If in two years it looks like
it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to
AD's offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD
becomes less difficult. Up until that point — and as some
have pointed out already, several years beyond, — SI will
remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
needs.

MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the
risks. It looks like fairly low cost way of providing a
buffer to the current dilemma.  It's value as a
supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it
ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole
relationship with The Foundry feels good at this point.

One more thing. AD had some great people working there,
and most of the folks who interacted with customers were
extremely dedicated and helpful. What I always sensed from
them, however, was a disconnect between the support and
development teams, and the decision makers within the
company. That's something smaller companies like
LUX/Foundry can handle differently.








I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.

On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares
mailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org>> wrote:


In for that webinar, too...
-- Originalnachricht --
Von: "Tim Crowson" mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>>
An:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
        Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
    Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list
- A new word from Brad Peebler

Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore :-)

-Tim


On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:

Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll
totally derail things.

I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the
early-mid 1990's.  Brad Peebler was my contact at
NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
around how Modo came about.
ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim
Crowsonmailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>>wrote:

Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to
thegenetic fallacy
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>with
that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to
replace Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?

I think your point about opening things up the way
ICE does is an important distinction to make
though. ICE is a platform, not just series of tools
to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room
with very few systems (Houdini, Maya internally as
I understand...). But the vast majority of 3D
applications out there, including Softimage (minus
ICE), are built to address specific, known
production needs. I don't think it's fair to
criticize the choice t

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Paul Griswold]

Wow!  I guess I haven't kept up with Modo at all.  


It does look pretty appealing.






—
Sent from Mailbox for iPad

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM, David Rivera
 wrote:

> Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this:
> https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo 
> mentality" asap :)
> Thanks. 
> David R.
> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers  wrote:
>  
> Count me in as well
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling 
>  wrote:
> Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC  wrote:
>>
>>I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can convey 
>>and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:
>>>
>>>Count me in for the webinar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some 
>>>>customer-focused dedication behind it.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users. I'll 
>>>>continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real decision 
>>>>will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use SI (an 
>>>>probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going to be 
>>>>looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a reasonably 
>>>>priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it looks like it 
>>>>could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's offerings, then 
>>>>the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up until that 
>>>>point — and as some have pointed out already, several years beyond, — SI 
>>>>will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my needs. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It looks 
>>>>like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current dilemma.  
>>>>It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it 
>>>>ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship with The 
>>>>Foundry feels good at this point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the 
>>>>folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful. 
>>>>What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the 
>>>>support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company. 
>>>>That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>In for that webinar, too...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>-- Originalnachricht --
>>>>>Von: "Tim Crowson" 
>>>>>An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
>>>>>Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from 
>>>>>Brad Peebler
>>>>> 
>>>>>Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail 
>>>>>>things.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad 
>>>>>>>Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole 
>>>>>>>drama around how Modo came about.
>>>>>>>ᐧ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson 
>&g

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Ognjen Vukovic]

+1


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Paul Griswold <
pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:

> Wow!  I guess I haven't kept up with Modo at all.
>
> It does look pretty appealing.
>
>
> —
> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPad
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM, David Rivera <
> activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this:
>> https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo
>> mentality" asap :)
>> Thanks.
>> David R.
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers 
>> wrote:
>>   Count me in as well
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling <
>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC  wrote:
>>
>> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can
>> convey and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>>
>> Count me in for the webinar.
>>
>>
>> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some
>> customer-focused dedication behind it.
>>
>> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users.
>> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real
>> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use
>> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going
>> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a
>> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it
>> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's
>> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up
>> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years
>> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
>> needs.
>>
>> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It
>> looks like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current
>> dilemma.  It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether
>> or not it ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship
>> with The Foundry feels good at this point.
>>
>> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the
>> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful.
>> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the
>> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company.
>> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.
>>
>>  On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:
>>
>>   In for that webinar, too...
>>
>>
>> -- Originalnachricht --
>> Von: "Tim Crowson" 
>> An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
>> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word
>> from Brad Peebler
>>
>>
>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>
>>  Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
>> things.
>>
>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
>> around how Modo came about.
>>  ᐧ
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson <
>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic 
>> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>
>>  with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace
>> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?
>>
>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
>> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of
>> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
>> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
>> majority of 3D applications out the

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[David Rivera]

Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this:
https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo 
mentality" asap :)
Thanks. 
David R.





On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers  wrote:
 
Count me in as well




On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling 
 wrote:

Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going
>
>
>
>
>On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC  wrote:
>
>I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can convey 
>and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:
>>
>>Count me in for the webinar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some 
>>>customer-focused dedication behind it.  
>>>
>>>
>>>I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users. I'll 
>>>continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real decision 
>>>will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use SI (an 
>>>probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going to be 
>>>looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a reasonably 
>>>priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it looks like it 
>>>could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's offerings, then the 
>>>decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up until that point — 
>>>and as some have pointed out already, several years beyond, — SI will remain 
>>>a functional tool capable of handling most of my needs. 
>>>
>>>
>>>MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It looks 
>>>like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current dilemma.  It's 
>>>value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it ever 
>>>becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship with The Foundry 
>>>feels good at this point.
>>>
>>>
>>>One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the 
>>>folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful. 
>>>What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the 
>>>support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company. 
>>>That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool. 
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:
>>>
>>>In for that webinar, too...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>-- Originalnachricht --
>>>>Von: "Tim Crowson" 
>>>>An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
>>>>Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from 
>>>>Brad Peebler
>>>> 
>>>>Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>-Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail 
>>>>>things.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad 
>>>>>>Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole 
>>>>>>drama around how Modo came about.
>>>>>>ᐧ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy with 
>>>>>>that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. 
>>>>>>Maybe, just not sure...?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an 
>>>>>>>important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series 
>>>>>>>of tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Nic Sievers]

Count me in as well


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC  wrote:
>
>> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can
>> convey and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> Count me in for the webinar.
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some
>>> customer-focused dedication behind it.
>>>
>>> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users.
>>> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real
>>> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use
>>> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going
>>> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a
>>> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it
>>> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's
>>> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up
>>> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years
>>> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
>>> needs.
>>>
>>> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It
>>> looks like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current
>>> dilemma.  It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether
>>> or not it ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship
>>> with The Foundry feels good at this point.
>>>
>>> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the
>>> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful.
>>> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the
>>> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company.
>>> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:
>>>
>>> In for that webinar, too...
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Originalnachricht --
>>> Von: "Tim Crowson" 
>>> An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
>>> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word
>>> from Brad Peebler
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
>>> things.
>>>
>>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
>>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
>>> around how Modo came about.
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson <
>>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic 
>>>> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>
>>>>  with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace
>>>> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?
>>>>
>>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
>>>> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of
>>>> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
>>>> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
>>>> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are
>>>> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair
>>>> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because
>>>> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet
>>>> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and
>>>> flexibilit

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sebastien Sterling]

Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going


On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC  wrote:

> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can
> convey and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke wrote:
>
>> Count me in for the webinar.
>>
>>
>> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some
>> customer-focused dedication behind it.
>>
>> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users.
>> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real
>> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use
>> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going
>> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a
>> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it
>> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's
>> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up
>> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years
>> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
>> needs.
>>
>> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It
>> looks like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current
>> dilemma.  It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether
>> or not it ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship
>> with The Foundry feels good at this point.
>>
>> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the
>> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful.
>> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the
>> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company.
>> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:
>>
>> In for that webinar, too...
>>
>>
>> -- Originalnachricht --
>> Von: "Tim Crowson" 
>> An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
>> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word
>> from Brad Peebler
>>
>>
>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>
>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
>> things.
>>
>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
>> around how Modo came about.
>> ᐧ
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson <
>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic 
>>> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>
>>>  with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace
>>> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?
>>>
>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
>>> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of
>>> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
>>> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
>>> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are
>>> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair
>>> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because
>>> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet
>>> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and
>>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a
>>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user,
>>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's
>>> *all *we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most
>>> of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> *As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Maurício PC]

I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can convey
and express himself really well. Looking forward to it.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke  wrote:

> Count me in for the webinar.
>
>
> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some
> customer-focused dedication behind it.
>
> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users.
> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real
> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use
> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going
> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a
> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it
> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's
> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up
> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years
> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
> needs.
>
> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It looks
> like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current dilemma.
>  It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it
> ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship with The
> Foundry feels good at this point.
>
> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the
> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful.
> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the
> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company.
> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.
>
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:
>
> In for that webinar, too...
>
>
> -- Originalnachricht --
> Von: "Tim Crowson" 
> An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from
> Brad Peebler
>
>
> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>
> -Tim
>
>
> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>
> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
> things.
>
> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
> around how Modo came about.
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson <
> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>
>> Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic 
>> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>
>>  with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace
>> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?
>>
>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
>> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of
>> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
>> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
>> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are
>> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair
>> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because
>> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet
>> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and
>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a
>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user,
>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's
>> *all *we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most
>> of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>>
>>
>> *As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of
>> doing their own due diligence in evaluating it*. There's no definite
>> answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what
>> your needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of
>> our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife.
>> Just yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated
>> curves into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cach

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Michael Clarke]

Count me in for the webinar.


Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some 
customer-focused dedication behind it.  

I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users. I'll 
continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real decision 
will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use SI (an 
probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going to be 
looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a reasonably 
priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it looks like it 
could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's offerings, then the 
decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up until that point — and 
as some have pointed out already, several years beyond, — SI will remain a 
functional tool capable of handling most of my needs. 

MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It looks like 
fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current dilemma.  It's value 
as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it ever becomes a 
primary production tool. The whole relationship with The Foundry feels good at 
this point.

One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the folks 
who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful. What I 
always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the support and 
development teams, and the decision makers within the company. That's something 
smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently. 








I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool. 

On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares  wrote:

> In for that webinar, too...
>  
>  
> -- Originalnachricht --
> Von: "Tim Crowson" 
> An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from 
> Brad Peebler
>  
>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>> 
>> -Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail 
>>> things.  
>>> 
>>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad 
>>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama 
>>> around how Modo came about.
>>> ᐧ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy with that. 
>>> Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just 
>>> not sure...?
>>> 
>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an important 
>>> distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of tools to 
>>> meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few systems 
>>> (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast majority of 3D 
>>> applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are built to 
>>> address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair to 
>>> criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because such 
>>> a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet artists' 
>>> known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and 
>>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a 
>>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, 
>>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if 
>>> that'sall we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most 
>>> of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>>> 
>>> As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of doing 
>>> their own due diligence in evaluating it. There's no definite answer to 
>>> 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what your 
>>> needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of our 
>>> pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. Just 
>>> yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated curves 
>>> into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache into 
>>> something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a 
>>> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise, 
>>> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Jordi Bares]

Lets do it!

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com

On 6 Mar 2014, at 18:09, "Eugen Sares"  wrote:

> In for that webinar, too...
>  
>  
> -- Originalnachricht --
> Von: "Tim Crowson" 
> An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from 
> Brad Peebler
>  
>> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)
>> 
>> -Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail 
>>> things.  
>>> 
>>> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad 
>>> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama 
>>> around how Modo came about.
>>> ᐧ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim 
>>> Crowson wrote:
>>> Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy with that. 
>>> Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just 
>>> not sure...?
>>> 
>>> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an important 
>>> distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of tools to 
>>> meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few systems 
>>> (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast majority of 3D 
>>> applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are built to 
>>> address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair to 
>>> criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because such 
>>> a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet artists' 
>>> known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and 
>>> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a 
>>> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, 
>>> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's 
>>> all we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most of us 
>>> still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>>> 
>>> As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of doing 
>>> their own due diligence in evaluating it. There's no definite answer to 
>>> 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what your 
>>> needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of our 
>>> pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. Just 
>>> yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated curves 
>>> into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache into 
>>> something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a 
>>> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise, 
>>> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  Stuff like that is a stress relief for 
>>> me!
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to 
>>> Modo.. Who wouldn't?
>>> 
>>> -Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the original 
>>>> programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace 
>>>> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill 
>>>> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does. 
>>>> ᐧ
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien 
>>>> Sterling wrote:
>>>> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul 
>>>> Griswold wrote:
>>>> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that they 
>>>> still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>>>> 
>>>> -Paul
>>>> 
>>>> ᐧ
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:
>>>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to 
>>>> e-mail him directly?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim 
>>>> Crowson wrote:
>>>> More contact from Brad off-list. 

Re[2]: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Eugen Sares]

In for that webinar, too...


-- Originalnachricht --
Von: "Tim Crowson" 
An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word
from Brad Peebler


Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)

-Tim


On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:

Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
things.

I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole
drama around how Modo came about.
ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson
 wrote:

Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy with
that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave.
Maybe, just not sure...?

I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just
series of tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room
with very few systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...).
But the vast majority of 3D applications out there, including
Softimage (minus ICE), are built to address specific, known
production needs. I don't think it's fair to criticize the choice to
design an application this way, simply because such a design choice
indicates that the developer is trying to meet artists' known needs.
Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and flexibility of
a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a layer
between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user,
allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if
that's all we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on
time. Most of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.

As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of
doing their own due diligence in evaluating it. There's no definite
answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends
on what your needs are, like everything else. In its current state
and because of our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as
a swiss army knife. Just yesterday I was able to load in an
illustrator file with complicated curves into Modo, set them to be
renderable, then bake that geometry cache into something I could
export (rims all around these intricate designs on a stained glass
window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise, not by
a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  Stuff like that is a stress relief for
me!

Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come
to Modo. Who wouldn't?

-Tim



On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:

Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to
replace Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific
tools to fill specific needs instead of opening things up the way
ICE does.
ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling
 wrote:

Lightwave mentality Paul ?


On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold
 wrote:

I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in
that they still seem to have the LW mentality there.

-Paul

ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson
 wrote:

I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again
to e-mail him directly?


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson
 wrote:

More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...

I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling
a bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel
like they have to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still
awesome and will be for years to come. Rather than offering
another promo code what I would like to do is offer an extended
trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can contact me
directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find
that I am a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink.
I can't publicly extend that offer but I will stand by it for
anyone on that list.

I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd
love to clear up some of the confusion about MODO being built as
a modeler only and share some short, mid and long term goals for
the product. Finally, I'm getting quite a bit of email this week
so if someone doesn't hear from me straight away please feel
free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
spammed. :)


If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on
the Google group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate
response.

-Tim












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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Tim Crowson]

Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore  :-)

-Tim


On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail 
things.


I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad 
Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole 
drama around how Modo came about.

ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson 
> wrote:


Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy
 with that. Also I'm
not sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just
not sure...?

I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just
series of tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room
with very few systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I
understand...). But the vast majority of 3D applications out
there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are built to address
specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair to
criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply
because such a design choice indicates that the developer is
trying to meet artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely
no denying the power and flexibility of a platform like
ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a layer between the raw
API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, allowing them
to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's /all
/we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most
of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.

/As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility
of doing their own due diligence in evaluating it/. There's no
definite answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It
just depends on what your needs are, like everything else. In its
current state and because of our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use
Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. Just yesterday I was able to
load in an illustrator file with complicated curves into Modo, set
them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache into
something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs
on a stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as
easily otherwise, not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  Stuff like
that is a stress relief for me!

Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE
come to Modo. Who wouldn't?

-Tim



On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:

Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed
to replace Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build
specific tools to fill specific needs instead of opening things
up the way ICE does.
ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lightwave mentality Paul ?


On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold
mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little
bit in that they still seem to have the LW mentality there.

-Paul

ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson
mailto:chr...@topixfx.com>> wrote:

I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact
information again to e-mail him directly?


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson
mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>> wrote:

More contact from Brad off-list He says the
following...

/I've been thinking about how this all went down
and I'm feeling a bit sad about it. I have a new
idea. People should not feel like they have to
rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still
awesome and will be for years to come. Rather
than offering another promo code what I would
like to do is offer an extended trial of MODO for
anyone who wants it. They can contact me directly
and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My
offer still stands that anyone who talks to me
directly will also find that I am a man of my
word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I
can't publicly extend that offer but I will stand
by it for anyone on that list.//
//
/
/I would also be willing to set up an invitation
only webinar for the list so

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Paul Griswold]

Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail
things.

I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's.  Brad
Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
around how Modo came about.
ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson  wrote:

>  Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic 
> fallacywith that. Also I'm not 
> sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave.
> Maybe, just not sure...?
>
> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an
> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of
> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few
> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast
> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are
> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair
> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because
> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet
> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and
> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a
> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user,
> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's 
> *all
> *we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most of us
> still need traditional, focused toolsets as well.
>
> *As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of doing
> their own due diligence in evaluating it*. There's no definite answer to
> 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what your
> needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of our
> pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. Just
> yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated curves
> into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache into
> something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a
> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise,
> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  Stuff like that is a stress relief for
> me!
>
> Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to
> Modo. Who wouldn't?
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
>
>  Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
> original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace
> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill
> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does.
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>>
>>
>>  On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold <
>> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that
>>> they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>>>
>>>  -Paul
>>>
>>>  ᐧ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:
>>>
 I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
 e-mail him directly?


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
 tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:

>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>
>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
> bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have
> to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like 
> to
> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My 
> offer
> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>
>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
> the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear
> up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and 
> share
> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
> spammed. :)*
>
>
> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
> please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google
> group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Nic Sievers]

Love the direction Foundry has been going the last couple years.  Nuke and
Mari are top notch.  Getting Modo was a great idea and the integration with
those previous packages is the way to go.Brad stopped by ILM the other
day and did a demo, seems like a cool guy.  Looking forward to seeing more
from Modo.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Daniel Sweeney wrote:

> I am definitely in for a webinar and would be cool to get a honest chat
> about a rough roadmap by some one who truly seems a genuine guy.
>
> I am interested I what Modo and the foundry seem to stand for. lets set
> this up! good work Raff and Tim!
>
>
>
> Daniel Sweeney
> 3D Creative Director
>
> *Mobile:* +44 (0)7743429771
> *Email:* dan...@northforge.co.uk
>  *Web:* http://northforge.co.uk
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Peter Agg wrote:
>
>> The latest nodal stuff they've added in is certainly a step in the right
>> direction - as I say I haven't been able to tinker as much as I'd like but
>> at the least the nodes I can see give access to lower-level maths
>> functionality, which is a good sign (albeit non-polymorphic though :( ).
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2014 17:25, Paul Griswold <
>> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
>>> original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace
>>> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill
>>> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does.
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Lightwave mentality Paul ?


 On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold <
 pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:

> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that
> they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>
> -Paul
>
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:
>
>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
>> e-mail him directly?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>>>
>>>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
>>> bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they 
>>> have
>>> to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be 
>>> for
>>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would 
>>> like to
>>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My 
>>> offer
>>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I 
>>> am
>>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>>
>>>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
>>> the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to 
>>> clear
>>> up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and 
>>> share
>>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm 
>>> getting
>>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me 
>>> straight
>>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to 
>>> get
>>> spammed. :)*
>>>
>>>
>>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
>>> please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the 
>>> Google
>>> group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Tim Crowson]

Mmm Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic fallacy 
 with that. Also I'm not 
sure Modo was ever intended to replace Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?


I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an 
important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series 
of tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few 
systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast 
majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), 
are built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think 
it's fair to criticize the choice to design an application this way, 
simply because such a design choice indicates that the developer is 
trying to meet artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no 
denying the power and flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which 
essentially opens up a layer between the raw API and the immediate 
toolset exposed to the user, allowing them to create new tools via 
node-based programming. But if that's /all /we had, I doubt many of us 
could get our work done on time. Most of us still need traditional, 
focused toolsets as well.


/As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of 
doing their own due diligence in evaluating it/. There's no definite 
answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on 
what your needs are, like everything else. In its current state and 
because of our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a 
swiss army knife. Just yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator 
file with complicated curves into Modo, set them to be renderable, then 
bake that geometry cache into something I could export (rims all around 
these intricate designs on a stained glass window). Could not have done 
that nearly as easily otherwise, not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo.  
Stuff like that is a stress relief for me!


Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to 
Modo. Who wouldn't?


-Tim


On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the 
original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to 
replace Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific 
tools to fill specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE 
does.

ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Lightwave mentality Paul ?


On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold
mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit
in that they still seem to have the LW mentality there.

-Paul

ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson
mailto:chr...@topixfx.com>> wrote:

I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact
information again to e-mail him directly?


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson
mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>> wrote:

More contact from Brad off-list He says the
following...

/I've been thinking about how this all went down and
I'm feeling a bit sad about it. I have a new idea.
People should not feel like they have to rush to make
a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be
for years to come. Rather than offering another promo
code what I would like to do is offer an extended
trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60
day license. My offer still stands that anyone who
talks to me directly will also find that I am a man of
my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't
publicly extend that offer but I will stand by it for
anyone on that list.//
//
/
/I would also be willing to set up an invitation only
webinar for the list so we can talk openly under a
"gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up some of the
confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and
share some short, mid and long term goals for the
product. Finally, I'm getting quite a bit of email
this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
away please feel free to send your email again. I
won't be offended to get spammed. :)/


If you guys are interested in taking him up in his
webinar idea, please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can
read these messages on the Google group, but if not
I'm happy to convey your corporate res

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Daniel Sweeney]

I am definitely in for a webinar and would be cool to get a honest chat
about a rough roadmap by some one who truly seems a genuine guy.

I am interested I what Modo and the foundry seem to stand for. lets set
this up! good work Raff and Tim!



Daniel Sweeney
3D Creative Director

*Mobile:* +44 (0)7743429771
*Email:* dan...@northforge.co.uk
*Web:* http://northforge.co.uk


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Peter Agg  wrote:

> The latest nodal stuff they've added in is certainly a step in the right
> direction - as I say I haven't been able to tinker as much as I'd like but
> at the least the nodes I can see give access to lower-level maths
> functionality, which is a good sign (albeit non-polymorphic though :( ).
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 17:25, Paul Griswold <
> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>
>> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the
>> original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace
>> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill
>> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does.
>> ᐧ
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold <
>>> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that
 they still seem to have the LW mentality there.

 -Paul

 ᐧ


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:

> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
> e-mail him directly?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>
>>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>>
>>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
>> bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they 
>> have
>> to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like 
>> to
>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My 
>> offer
>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I 
>> am
>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>
>>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
>> the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to 
>> clear
>> up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and 
>> share
>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me 
>> straight
>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to 
>> get
>> spammed. :)*
>>
>>
>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
>> please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google
>> group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Peter Agg]

The latest nodal stuff they've added in is certainly a step in the right
direction - as I say I haven't been able to tinker as much as I'd like but
at the least the nodes I can see give access to lower-level maths
functionality, which is a good sign (albeit non-polymorphic though :( ).


On 6 March 2014 17:25, Paul Griswold  wrote:

> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the original
> programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace
> Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill
> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does.
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold <
>> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that
>>> they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:
>>>
 I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
 e-mail him directly?


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
 tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:

>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>
>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
> bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have
> to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like 
> to
> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My 
> offer
> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>
>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
> the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear
> up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and 
> share
> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
> spammed. :)*
>
>
> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
> please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google
> group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Paul Griswold]

Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the original
programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace
Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill
specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does.
ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lightwave mentality Paul ?
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold <
> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that
>> they still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> ᐧ
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
>>> e-mail him directly?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
>>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>>
  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...

  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
 bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have
 to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
 years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
 do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
 contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
 still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
 a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
 extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*

  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
 list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
 some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
 some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
 quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
 away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
 spammed. :)*


 If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
 voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
 but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.

 -Tim



>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Tim Crowson]

b...@luxology.com

On 3/6/2014 11:04 AM, Chris Johnson wrote:
I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to 
e-mail him directly?



On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson 
> wrote:


More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...

/I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a
bit sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like
they have to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still
awesome and will be for years to come. Rather than offering
another promo code what I would like to do is offer an extended
trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can contact me
directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find
that I am a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I
can't publicly extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone
on that list.//
//
/
/I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for
the list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love
to clear up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a
modeler only and share some short, mid and long term goals for the
product. Finally, I'm getting quite a bit of email this week so if
someone doesn't hear from me straight away please feel free to
send your email again. I won't be offended to get spammed. :)/


If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea,
please voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the
Google group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.

-Tim





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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Sebastien Sterling]

Lightwave mentality Paul ?


On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold  wrote:

> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that they
> still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>
> -Paul
>
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson  wrote:
>
>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
>> e-mail him directly?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>>>
>>>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
>>> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
>>> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
>>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
>>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
>>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
>>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>>
>>>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
>>> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
>>> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
>>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
>>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
>>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
>>> spammed. :)*
>>>
>>>
>>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
>>> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
>>> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Peter Agg]

A webinar would be interesting, though trying to sync across time-zones
would be a challenge. I've been looking at modo a little bit over the past
few days and am starting to build a little list of positives and negatives:
it'd certainly be interesting to know whether areas that concern me are
areas that concern them as well...


On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold  wrote:

> I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that they
> still seem to have the LW mentality there.
>
> -Paul
>
> ᐧ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson  wrote:
>
>> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
>> e-mail him directly?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>>>
>>>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
>>> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
>>> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
>>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
>>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
>>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
>>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>>
>>>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
>>> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
>>> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
>>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
>>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
>>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
>>> spammed. :)*
>>>
>>>
>>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
>>> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
>>> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Stefan Kubicek]

+1!



Yes of course, I'm also up for the webinar!


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Chris Johnson  wrote:


I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
e-mail him directly?


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:


 More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...

 *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*

 *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
spammed. :)*


If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.

-Tim










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Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Paul Griswold]

I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo scares me a little bit in that they
still seem to have the LW mentality there.

-Paul

ᐧ


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson  wrote:

> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
> e-mail him directly?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>
>>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>>
>>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
>> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
>> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>
>>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
>> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
>> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
>> spammed. :)*
>>
>>
>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
>> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
>> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Oscar Juarez]

Yes of course, I'm also up for the webinar!


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Chris Johnson  wrote:

> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to
> e-mail him directly?
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson <
> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
>
>>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>>
>>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
>> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
>> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
>> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
>> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
>> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
>> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
>> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
>> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>>
>>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
>> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
>> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
>> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
>> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
>> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
>> spammed. :)*
>>
>>
>> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
>> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
>> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Chris Johnson]

I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to e-mail
him directly?


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson  wrote:

>  More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...
>
>  *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit
> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to
> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for
> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to
> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can
> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer
> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am
> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly
> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.*
>
>  *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the
> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up
> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share
> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting
> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight
> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get
> spammed. :)*
>
>
> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please
> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group,
> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>

Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word from Brad Peebler

[Tim Crowson]

More contact from Brad off-list He says the following...

/I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit 
sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have 
to rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be 
for years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would 
like to do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. 
They can contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day 
license. My offer still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will 
also find that I am a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink 
wink. I can't publicly extend that offer but I will stand by it for 
anyone on that list.//

//
/
/I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the 
list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear 
up some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and 
share some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm 
getting quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from 
me straight away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be 
offended to get spammed. :)/



If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please 
voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google 
group, but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response.


-Tim