Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-18 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.

Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to create 
realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine and 
Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really suck.

Any suggestions on strengths and weaknesses or good alternatives?

//Morten
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RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-18 Thread adrian wyer
i really like world machine, and it's definitely worth springing for the
geoglyph plugins... you can make really amazing terrain, it behaves like
ice, and what you get out is as many hi res maps as you can deal with, so no
compatibility issues...

a

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
Bartholdy
Sent: 18 May 2016 10:51
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators
Q?

Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.

Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to
create realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine
and Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really
suck.

Any suggestions on strengths and weaknesses or good alternatives?

//Morten
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Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-18 Thread Jordi Bares
I am afraid it is very ad-hoc altogether, a combination of World Machine, Vue, 
Zbrush and some clever tricks is simply critical if you want to do 
sophisticated terrains and there is close to no literature on the subject.

I did a job recently with 6km by 6km Swiss range of mountains (pretty amazing) 
and resolution to 1m that we did some extra resampling to go down every further 
and the datasets are so huge it is scary.

Looked great, happy with the results, the process without the help of an expert 
would have been a total nightmare so it is on my to-do list of course but 
believe me when I say you are going to spend a ton of time finding out things, 
from formats to workflows…

jb


> On 18 May 2016, at 10:58, adrian wyer  wrote:
> 
> i really like world machine, and it's definitely worth springing for the
> geoglyph plugins... you can make really amazing terrain, it behaves like
> ice, and what you get out is as many hi res maps as you can deal with, so no
> compatibility issues...
> 
> a
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> Bartholdy
> Sent: 18 May 2016 10:51
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators
> Q?
> 
> Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.
> 
> Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to
> create realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine
> and Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really
> suck.
> 
> Any suggestions on strengths and weaknesses or good alternatives?
> 
> //Morten
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RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-18 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
Have you checked out Quadspinner? This guy and his team are brilliant. Lots of 
tools and tutorials for WM and VUE. He's the creator of GeoGlyph...
http://www.quadspinner.com/


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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
Sent: May-18-16 5:58 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

i really like world machine, and it's definitely worth springing for the 
geoglyph plugins... you can make really amazing terrain, it behaves like ice, 
and what you get out is as many hi res maps as you can deal with, so no 
compatibility issues...

a

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten Bartholdy
Sent: 18 May 2016 10:51
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.

Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to create 
realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine and 
Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really suck.

Any suggestions on strengths and weaknesses or good alternatives?

//Morten
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RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-18 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Thanks again for all the good advice. World Machine and GeoGlyph it is then - 
GeoGlyph looks awesome.

And I hear you Jordi regarding huge datasets and all that - I have been 
creating terrain stuff manually adding some Mudbox here and there up until now, 
but we would like to take things up a step or two and by the looks of it, WM 
and GeoGlyph will save me a ton of time even when I just need a quick terrain 
done :)

//Morten



> Den 18. maj 2016 klokken 14:23 skrev Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
> :
> 
> 
> Have you checked out Quadspinner? This guy and his team are brilliant. Lots 
> of tools and tutorials for WM and VUE. He's the creator of GeoGlyph...
> http://www.quadspinner.com/
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
> Sent: May-18-16 5:58 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators 
> Q?
> 
> i really like world machine, and it's definitely worth springing for the 
> geoglyph plugins... you can make really amazing terrain, it behaves like ice, 
> and what you get out is as many hi res maps as you can deal with, so no 
> compatibility issues...
> 
> a
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten Bartholdy
> Sent: 18 May 2016 10:51
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators 
> Q?
> 
> Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.
> 
> Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to create 
> realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine and 
> Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really suck.
> 
> Any suggestions on strengths and weaknesses or good alternatives?
> 
> //Morten
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Re: RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-18 Thread kla...@bluewin.ch
Hi Morten

I recently got back into Terragen.
The render quality is very nice, node based, and seems to handle a lot of 
formats quite well.
The Pro Version with Animation module comes with 5 Rendernodes.
Pricing for Pre-Order V3 with maintanence (which includes free update to V4 
when it comes out) is $700 / 680 Euro.
At www.terragen4.com you can see some examples of what is to come.
Can`t give you real production value advice but planetside.co.uk is going to 
release version 4 by the end of June as they say.
If you go to their forum you could get in touch with the developers easily. 
They are around quite frequently over their.
Together with World Machine it makes a very good combo.

If you already made up your mind, nevermind ;)
cheers, Klaus


>Ursprüngliche Nachricht
>Von : x...@colorshopvfx.dk
>Datum : 18/05/2016 - 16:07 (GMT)
>An : softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>Betreff : RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain 
>Generators Q?
>
>Thanks again for all the good advice. World Machine and GeoGlyph it is then - 
>GeoGlyph looks awesome.
>
>And I hear you Jordi regarding huge datasets and all that - I have been 
>creating terrain stuff manually adding some Mudbox here and there up until 
>now, but we would like to take things up a step or two and by the looks of it, 
>WM and GeoGlyph will save me a ton of time even when I just need a quick 
>terrain done :)
>
>//Morten
>
>
>
>> Den 18. maj 2016 klokken 14:23 skrev Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
>> :
>> 
>> 
>> Have you checked out Quadspinner? This guy and his team are brilliant. Lots 
>> of tools and tutorials for WM and VUE. He's the creator of GeoGlyph...
>> http://www.quadspinner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
>> Sent: May-18-16 5:58 AM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators 
>> Q?
>> 
>> i really like world machine, and it's definitely worth springing for the 
>> geoglyph plugins... you can make really amazing terrain, it behaves like 
>> ice, and what you get out is as many hi res maps as you can deal with, so no 
>> compatibility issues...
>> 
>> a
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten 
>> Bartholdy
>> Sent: 18 May 2016 10:51
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators 
>> Q?
>> 
>> Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.
>> 
>> Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to 
>> create realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine 
>> and Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really 
>> suck.
>> 
>> Any suggestions on strengths and weaknesses or good alternatives?
>> 
>> //Morten
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Re: RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain Generators Q?

2016-05-19 Thread Morten Bartholdy
Thanks for the advice Klaus. Your mail made me go check it out again (did so 
long ago in a much earlier version) but I still find it kind of rough around 
the edges, with a bit clunky navigation and poor preview capabilities.

I am sure there is more to discover and smarter ways to work with it once you 
get dug in, but I would say v4 looks very promising. I will definately keep an 
eye on that.

Previously I have used Vue for rendering skies and cloudscapes, but it is like 
working with a strayjacket on while looking through a narrow tube, and while 
rendering looks nice, it is sometimes hard to get just the kind of detail and 
shapes you want, and the connectivity plugins for handling animation are awful.

At least Terragen boasts fbx import and the Terragen v4 cloud stuff looks 
really lovely.

I sat down and found my way around World Machine in a day or so (just getting 
started) so I find that very intuitive despite the kind of throwback PC style 
menus, and the output looks very good - mind you it does not boast a renderer, 
so stuff needs to be exported and rendered elsewhere, so not a direct 
competitor to Terragen in that respect. I have yet to check out how to create 
terrain in Terragen.

Cheers
Morten



> Den 18. maj 2016 klokken 19:08 skrev "kla...@bluewin.ch" :
> 
> 
> Hi Morten
> 
> I recently got back into Terragen.
> The render quality is very nice, node based, and seems to handle a lot of 
> formats quite well.
> The Pro Version with Animation module comes with 5 Rendernodes.
> Pricing for Pre-Order V3 with maintanence (which includes free update to V4 
> when it comes out) is $700 / 680 Euro.
> At www.terragen4.com you can see some examples of what is to come.
> Can`t give you real production value advice but planetside.co.uk is going to 
> release version 4 by the end of June as they say.
> If you go to their forum you could get in touch with the developers easily. 
> They are around quite frequently over their.
> Together with World Machine it makes a very good combo.
> 
> If you already made up your mind, nevermind ;)
> cheers, Klaus
> 
> 
> >Ursprüngliche Nachricht
> >Von : x...@colorshopvfx.dk
> >Datum : 18/05/2016 - 16:07 (GMT)
> >An : softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >Betreff : RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain 
> >Generators Q?
> >
> >Thanks again for all the good advice. World Machine and GeoGlyph it is then 
> >- GeoGlyph looks awesome.
> >
> >And I hear you Jordi regarding huge datasets and all that - I have been 
> >creating terrain stuff manually adding some Mudbox here and there up until 
> >now, but we would like to take things up a step or two and by the looks of 
> >it, WM and GeoGlyph will save me a ton of time even when I just need a quick 
> >terrain done :)
> >
> >//Morten
> >
> >
> >
> >> Den 18. maj 2016 klokken 14:23 skrev Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
> >> :
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Have you checked out Quadspinner? This guy and his team are brilliant. 
> >> Lots of tools and tutorials for WM and VUE. He's the creator of GeoGlyph...
> >> http://www.quadspinner.com/
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-----
> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> >> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
> >> Sent: May-18-16 5:58 AM
> >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >> Subject: RE: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain 
> >> Generators Q?
> >> 
> >> i really like world machine, and it's definitely worth springing for the 
> >> geoglyph plugins... you can make really amazing terrain, it behaves like 
> >> ice, and what you get out is as many hi res maps as you can deal with, so 
> >> no compatibility issues...
> >> 
> >> a
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> >> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten 
> >> Bartholdy
> >> Sent: 18 May 2016 10:51
> >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >> Subject: Re: Google Earth Pro 3D data or similar? edit -> Terrain 
> >> Generators Q?
> >> 
> >> Apologies for the email mishaps - here is a proper one.
> >> 
> >> Along slightly different lines but related, what do you guys prefer to 
> >> create realistic looking landscape geometry? I am looking at World Machine 
> >> and Terragen atm, dismissing Vue for now as the connectivity tools really 
> >> suck.
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions on strengths a