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That would be a Boston Colorgraphics Lightspeed Qolor workstation - around 1986: http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/cg/1985/12/04056044.pdf http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/cg/1985/12/04056044.pdf no. 2 machine from top. 24 bit painting with a digitizer mouse with a crosshair - it could record color images via a b/w videocamera with colored filters, which, combined, produce full color images for further manipulation. Output with a QCR onto slides. Morten Bartholdy Den 20. december 2013 kl. 23:08 skrev Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com ] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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Right back at you and the team, Chris! Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year for you and all of us! Morten Den 21. december 2013 kl. 11:24 skrev Chris Chia softimage...@gmail.com: Hi guys, Just popping by to greet all the fellows here a Merry Xmas and a Happy 2015 ahead! Stay Positive and look on the bright side! Chris Sent from my iPhone On 21 Dec, 2013, at 7:07 am, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com ] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect
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A bit... But there are plenty of you guys here that don't make me feel so old! ;) My first machine was a TRS-80 that I got sometime around 1977. Did some graphics, learned basic, played really bad games. 10 Print Cheese and Monkeys! ; 20 Goto 10 Lol. So much fun. I remember getting magazines with programs in them. The tedious typing to get them in the machine. The tearing them apart to make them do things that were more fun ;) Ed -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about
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By todays standards almost everything was low end back then in regards to quality, but it was all superior to the slide rules we were using in the 60s and 70s! :) I too recall extracting dos batch file programming code one word at a time from a mag called DOS Resource Guide and then rewriting it into something useful. And the basic programming had to be done by swapping the Basic floppy disks with OS floppy disks etc because the PC had no hard drives. Fun indeed. -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ed Harriss Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:53 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity A bit... But there are plenty of you guys here that don't make me feel so old! ;) My first machine was a TRS-80 that I got sometime around 1977. Did some graphics, learned basic, played really bad games. 10 Print Cheese and Monkeys! ; 20 Goto 10 Lol. So much fun. I remember getting magazines with programs in them. The tedious typing to get them in the machine. The tearing them apart to make them do things that were more fun ;) Ed -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said
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Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-) I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... If you remember where that is from ... you too are old. Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T
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Reading all the oldies but goodies, and also being a guy that was born the year the man put a feet on the moon, without any supercomputer, I am more convinced that I don´t need a nice viewport to get the job done... hahaha 2013/12/23 Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov By todays standards almost everything was low end back then in regards to quality, but it was all superior to the slide rules we were using in the 60s and 70s! :) I too recall extracting dos batch file programming code one word at a time from a mag called DOS Resource Guide and then rewriting it into something useful. And the basic programming had to be done by swapping the Basic floppy disks with OS floppy disks etc because the PC had no hard drives. Fun indeed. -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ed Harriss Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:53 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity A bit... But there are plenty of you guys here that don't make me feel so old! ;) My first machine was a TRS-80 that I got sometime around 1977. Did some graphics, learned basic, played really bad games. 10 Print Cheese and Monkeys! ; 20 Goto 10 Lol. So much fun. I remember getting magazines with programs in them. The tedious typing to get them in the machine. The tearing them apart to make them do things that were more fun ;) Ed -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [ mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto: ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage
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You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com Subject: RE: positivity Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-) I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... If you remember where that is from ... you too are old. Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new
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Holy Crap ... Your old too !! Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:03 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com Subject: RE: positivity Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-) I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... If you remember where that is from ... you too are old. Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys
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I've got that cup sitting on my desk! http://www.edharriss.com/fic/monkees.jpg Amazing! Ed -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:07 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Holy Crap ... Your old too !! Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:03 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com Subject: RE: positivity Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-) I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... If you remember where that is from ... you too are old. Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun
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Would just like to pop in to wish everyone a merry Christmas and happy holidays, and a very fun filled break from work. Its great to see such a good atmosphere in the community, now all that's missing is cloud storaged ale, but im sure someone will come up with a way of synthesizing it one day, till then Cheers. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com wrote: I've got that cup sitting on my desk! http://www.edharriss.com/fic/monkees.jpg Amazing! Ed -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:07 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Holy Crap ... Your old too !! Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:03 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com Subject: RE: positivity Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-) I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... If you remember where that is from ... you too are old. Michael -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [ mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto: ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days
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Hi guys, Just popping by to greet all the fellows here a Merry Xmas and a Happy 2015 ahead! Stay Positive and look on the bright side! Chris Sent from my iPhone On 21 Dec, 2013, at 7:07 am, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog
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Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette. Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :) On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
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Merry Christmas everyone ! On 21 December 2013 11:49, Eric Mootz e...@mootzoid.com wrote: Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette. Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :) On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
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apple II, IIe and IIc here (my dad had these for work) I fondly remember FantaVision which was a kind of morphing graphics software – though I definitely spent more time on Ultima 4 must have been middle of the eighties - little did I know that I’d be using computers for a living one day . From: Eric Mootz Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:49 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette. Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :) On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
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Wow I totally forgot about Ultima!! I spent a lot of time playing Ultima on that old Apple II + haha 2013/12/21 pete...@skynet.be apple II, IIe and IIc here (my dad had these for work) I fondly remember FantaVision which was a kind of morphing graphics software – though I definitely spent more time on Ultima 4 must have been middle of the eighties - little did I know that I’d be using computers for a living one day [image: Smile]. *From:* Eric Mootz e...@mootzoid.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:49 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: positivity Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette. Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :) On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
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Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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Hey Ed, Do you still feel old? :-) Joey From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the features Stereo D is on. I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980. Cheers -- Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.commailto:ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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A big plus 1 from here too!! Well said! On 20 December 2013 11:50, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.comwrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71 -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk
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Hear hear - 1000+ on this Adrian, well said! S. On 2013/12/20 1:50 PM, adrian wyer wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com blocked::blocked::blocked::mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com blocked::blocked::blocked::http://www.fluid-pictures.com/ Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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Very well put Adrian. I am as concerned as anyone about the future of my favorite tool but the future lies in may ways in our hands, as we are in a position to nudge things in the direction we want. Positivity is generally a good mindset, and it certainly applies here. I miss Porls bright observations on life in general BTW :) Morten Bartholdy VFX Supervisor gimmickvfx.com Den 20. december 2013 kl. 12:50 skrev adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St . London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com blocked::blocked::blocked::mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com blocked::blocked::blocked::http://www.fluid-pictures.com/ Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales . Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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Wahey! *that's* the spirit. Merry Christmas everybody. On 20 December 2013 12:04, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: A big plus 1 from here too!! Well said! On 20 December 2013 11:50, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.comwrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71 -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk
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The positivity is appreciated. After spending the last month or so mostly working in another package I appreciate Softimage even more than I already did. I agree that keeping the outflow of head turning work can attract users and change perceptions. Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all! On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dkwrote: Very well put Adrian. I am as concerned as anyone about the future of my favorite tool but the future lies in may ways in our hands, as we are in a position to nudge things in the direction we want. Positivity is generally a good mindset, and it certainly applies here. I miss Porls bright observations on life in general BTW :) Morten Bartholdy VFX Supervisor gimmickvfx.com Den 20. december 2013 kl. 12:50 skrev adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St . London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales . Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants because they annoy me to no end. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3 it has been an overwhelming round. Well said Adrian Jb Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger cgo...@googlemail.com wrote: Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants because they annoy me to no end. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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Amen! F. 2013/12/20 Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3 it has been an overwhelming round. Well said Adrian Jb Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger cgo...@googlemail.com wrote: Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants because they annoy me to no end. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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Absolutley! People said the Mayans said that the world will end in 2013 And here we are! Merry Christmas and Happy New* 2014 *to all of you! 2013/12/20 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com Amen! F. 2013/12/20 Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3 it has been an overwhelming round. Well said Adrian Jb Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger cgo...@googlemail.com wrote: Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants because they annoy me to no end. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations and features) I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc! I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls) a Adrian Wyer Fluid Pictures 75-77 Margaret St. London W1W 8SY ++44(0) 207 580 0829 adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com www.fluid-pictures.com Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company number:5657815 VAT number: 872 6893 71
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+1 thanx for this refreshing and positive post, Adrian. Cheers to y'all! Eric.
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Can't agree enough - hear hear! Looking forward to the next bit of kick ass work :) On 20 December 2013 15:13, Eric Mootz e...@mootzoid.com wrote: +1 thanx for this refreshing and positive post, Adrian. Cheers to y'all! Eric. -- www.matinai.com
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Few people are as big a fan of Soft as I am. I've been using it since 1995, Soft 3D 3.0 and Soft is still all I use. You will get no argument from me about how great it is to work with. In my experience, it's very rare someone who has started using it after having experience with Maya or Max come away from it a little surprised at how much easier it is to be productive. Positive, negative, my mood is irrelevant towards it. I don't know what action if anything would have a meaningful impact on what amounts to a business decision. We've all seen how it's been marketed, the proof is in what you see in front of you, not platitudes meanwhile ICE like modules (or at least last I heard) are in development for Maya. Along with BetaMax and Commodore Amiga, it's not the first time hype won over a good product. Diplomacy is the art of saying Nice doggie until you can find a rock. So when I hear one thing and see another, it's that saying that comes to mind. I'm just a lone freelancer, the only people on this list who have any pull are the CG supervisors, leads and studio owners who have the ability to decide where their dollars go. I would certainly love to be completely wrong and have to apologize, trust me. Sorry if I upset anyone with my comments... As I am writing this, I see Kris has managed to take the can of worms I opened and proceeded to throw them all over the room and set the place on fire. Have a great Holiday everyone. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Stephan Haitz sha...@3d-agenten.dewrote: Thought about paying the subscription lately and ... I paid it to show Autodesk that there are Softimage users... naive thinking, but ... So Merry Christmas and have a nice 2014. And many more years with Soft... Absolutley! People said the Mayans said that the world will end in 2013 And here we are! Merry Christmas and Happy New* 2014 *to all of you! 2013/12/20 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com Amen! F. 2013/12/20 Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3 it has been an overwhelming round. Well said Adrian Jb Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger cgo...@googlemail.com wrote: Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants because they annoy me to no end. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of users and the future of our little group Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here) When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed) While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law! This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to hang out. There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning! If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's been in ages. What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's
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Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general). - Eric T.
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Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.comwrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general). - Eric T.
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Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old.) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general). - Eric T.
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Regardless if it's true or not, the take-away should be what we value. A strong platform for development, a strong community who are passionate about pursuing technology and art, and a workflow that keeps our working hours short and beer glasses full. If we embrace these ideas whole-heartedly, then the only thing needed is a strong platform to rebuild these ideas upon. It doesn't have to be owned by an evil company or fly under the banner of a familiar name. There are already technologies out there that hold this promise. And by redirecting the talents of artist and developers onto something that is a bit more open, it will also create a wake of opportunities and ultimately providing more jobs. There's a lot to look forward to. As these emerging technologies mature, we'll find there are even more interesting projects that may not have been present on our radar, but could greatly benefit from our skills, talent, and passion. The future is extremely bright. Merry Christmas everyone! -Lu On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Kris Rivel krisri...@gmail.com wrote: Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.comwrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general). - Eric T.
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Well said! I'm looking forward to the future to be honest. There's a lot of great new things I think on the horizon, especially with the cloud...look at Clara.io and Lagoa. In the meantime, we have Soft, Mootzoid, Exocortex and all the other cool stuff! Looking forward to 2014...whatever may happen. Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Meng-Yang Lu ntmon...@gmail.com wrote: Regardless if it's true or not, the take-away should be what we value. A strong platform for development, a strong community who are passionate about pursuing technology and art, and a workflow that keeps our working hours short and beer glasses full. If we embrace these ideas whole-heartedly, then the only thing needed is a strong platform to rebuild these ideas upon. It doesn't have to be owned by an evil company or fly under the banner of a familiar name. There are already technologies out there that hold this promise. And by redirecting the talents of artist and developers onto something that is a bit more open, it will also create a wake of opportunities and ultimately providing more jobs. There's a lot to look forward to. As these emerging technologies mature, we'll find there are even more interesting projects that may not have been present on our radar, but could greatly benefit from our skills, talent, and passion. The future is extremely bright. Merry Christmas everyone! -Lu On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Kris Rivel krisri...@gmail.com wrote: Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.comwrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general). - Eric T.
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Thanks Kris, Merry Christmas to everyone here as well. Eric T, thanks for hanging in. Your opinions and contributions here are most valued. Thank you. Scott Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 1:11 PM Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general). - Eric T.
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Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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Mine was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum Did some cool graphics/pixel programs on it. I guess during 1987 to 1989. Still have it somewhere in my attic. ALOK GANDHI / directeur technique senior- senior technical director alok.gan...@modusfx.com mailto:alok.gan...@modusfx.com T: *450 430-0010 x225 F: *450 430-0009 www.modusfx.com http://www.modusfx.com - MODUS FX 120 Rue Turgeon, Sainte-Therese (Quebec) CANADA J7E 3J1 Follow us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/ModusFX Twitter https://twitter.com/Modusfx ** On 12/20/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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wow, I actually remember playing on one of those, and I was born a couple years before it came out. Marry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Seasons greetings softies :). On 12/20/2013 4:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu wrote: 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite Did I win? :P On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *sc...@turbulenceffects.com mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/
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Actually way before that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite... On 12/20/2013 4:24 PM, Rares Halmagean wrote: wow, I actually remember playing on one of those, and I was born a couple years before it came out. Marry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Seasons greetings softies :). -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/
RE: positivity
The first graphics system I ever used was a Compugraphic 7770 II in 1984. http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/events-1970-1979 (contains a pic of a Compugraphic EditWriter 7500 which preceded it) -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
Re: positivity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64
During '82-'83, I think. Programmed graphics in Basic reading a
bunch of Data statements and feeding those to draw calls. Ah,
painting 1 pixel at the time... (not missing it, really... but at
the time, it felt like magic).
On 20/12/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux,
Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
I
can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder
what Porl is up to these days.
But
as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
What’s
the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the
year?
It
doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout,
etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of
graphics.
Takers?
--
Joey
Ponthieux
__
Opinions
stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent
the opinions of NASA or any other party.
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity
Ha
ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
-
Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" ed.harr...@sas.com
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
Maybe
we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we
had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which
was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage
list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were
even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m
old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list
and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
Perfect!
Now
get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!
Happy
Holidays!
Ed
“cheese and monkeys” Harriss
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity
Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL.
I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm
the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for
what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this
butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I
don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I
didn't know if this may be old news or something new.
Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric
Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com
wrote:
Only
thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking
that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm
tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice
about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread
will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and
what could have been a helpful / informative thread
will be turned into a bitch-fest.
The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in
that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
If you want to complain about the demise of a
software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with
it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..
- Eric T.
--
Re: positivity
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Re: positivity
WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
RE: positivity
Ahem…. Ok cause you guys are Softimage friends… TRS 80 – 1980… actually before that… on a dec machine Star trek the game… in 1978… OMG…. I must be drunk… BARTENDER! COME DOWN HERE! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: positivity I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
RE: positivity
My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn't get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.govmailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old Maybe we should have a contest. What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.commailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.commailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed cheese and monkeys Harriss From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM To: Softimage List Subject: Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.commailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog
Re: positivity
Well my first computer was an Apple II plus with 48k of RAM, two five inch and half floppy drives. The first graphic I ever did was the cover album of Judas Priest Screaming for Vengeance in that Apple II Plus with mouse paint. Cheers. 2013/12/20 Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec
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I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome! Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape! Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on anything other than an Amiga in those days. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
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I think some of my first paid jobs as an animator was using an Amiga 2000 and a DCTV going direct to an MII recorder. The DCTV was an amazing piece of tech! — Sent from Mailbox for iPad On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric Lampi ericla...@gmail.com wrote: I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome! Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape! Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on anything other than an Amiga in those days. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people
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Jeez. yeah I do think I still remember some Basic. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: I think some of my first paid jobs as an animator was using an Amiga 2000 and a DCTV going direct to an MII recorder. The DCTV was an amazing piece of tech! — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPad On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric Lampi ericla...@gmail.com wrote: I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome! Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape! Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on anything other than an Amiga in those days. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.comwrote: My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re
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Insects squished and smeared on a rock. No undo functionality, but the hardware never failed. Software was buggy, however. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Brassard dbrassar...@gmail.comwrote: Fortran on a Dell PDP-1124 circa 1974 Build my first computer based on the motorola 6500 chipset, Heathkit keyboard, four color display screen circa 1977. Burned a hole on my wooden desk on the first try! What a glory! \
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one of these: with one of these: 1976 or 7 Wrote a game that had to do with firing artillery. The teletype actually printed a screen showing the gun, the target, and the explosion. Not very responsive... On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: Insects squished and smeared on a rock. No undo functionality, but the hardware never failed. Software was buggy, however. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Brassard dbrassar...@gmail.comwrote: Fortran on a Dell PDP-1124 circa 1974 Build my first computer based on the motorola 6500 chipset, Heathkit keyboard, four color display screen circa 1977. Burned a hole on my wooden desk on the first try! What a glory! \
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My dad bought the family an Apple IIe and then taught me the basics of coding. I spent way too much time programming it to do graphics when I should have been playing outside. :) -ben On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Well my first computer was an Apple II plus with 48k of RAM, two five inch and half floppy drives. The first graphic I ever did was the cover album of Judas Priest Screaming for Vengeance in that Apple II Plus with mouse paint. Cheers. 2013/12/20 Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com My computer graphics career has circular logic. My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to write commands to draw pictures like: HLINE 60, 80 COLOR=8 RUN In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans. Caused so much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative Environment 2.6 Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: positivity WICAT systems, System 300 and 150. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdfhttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf 1988 I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a naval combat system. It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it. My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at the screen off center. Good times. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] j.ponthi...@nasa.gov wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of * sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me
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Raise you a ZX81 - must be similar year'ish - all of a whopping 1K of RAM :-P S. On 2013/12/21 12:11 AM, Alok Gandhi wrote: Mine was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum Did some cool graphics/pixel programs on it. I guess during 1987 to 1989. Still have it somewhere in my attic. ALOK GANDHI / directeur technique senior- senior technical director alok.gan...@modusfx.com mailto:alok.gan...@modusfx.com T: *450 430-0010 x225 F: *450 430-0009 www.modusfx.com http://www.modusfx.com - MODUS FX 120 Rue Turgeon, Sainte-Therese (Quebec) CANADA J7E 3J1 Follow us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/ModusFX Twitter https://twitter.com/Modusfx ** On 12/20/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *sc...@turbulenceffects.com *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint - Reply message - From: Ed Harriss ed.harr...@sas.com mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: positivity Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom. Perfect! Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks! Happy Holidays! Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* Softimage List *Subject:* Re: positivity Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!! LOL. I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this. I told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth. It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new. Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-) Kris On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest. The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe. If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).. - Eric T.
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OOoo missed the 'graphics' part - mine was a Commodore Amiga 500 and 1000 if I remember right, and the first modelling package I had was used by plotting on graph paper co-ordinates, then you enter these into the computer to make a geometry! Can't really remember the year. S. On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote: I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to these days. But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year? It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics. Takers? -- Joey Ponthieux __ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
