Re: Render tree crash with SI 2013
I once had a similar problem while working on location at a company. The only work around solution was to open the rendertree first (in a clean scene) and than load the scene. I thought it maybe was caused by issues with the workgroups as it seems the crash was related to the rendertree loading some shader/rt_compounds when opened first. But I didn't had the time to investigate the problem in detail. So the workflow was open SI, hit 7 and than load the scene. Cheers Tim I'm still having crashes on one particular machine using SI 2013. on one particular scene, a big 500Mo object from cad, as soon as I hit 7, XSI crashes. I have a Quadro 4000 I already updated the drivers last month. Now I wonder if there are some settings I should tweak. This doesn't happen on other machines. It opens fine on a quadro 1800 machine. Anything to check ? any settings files to delete ? Would greatly apreciate advices.
Re: Render tree crash with SI 2013
I recall having a similar problem. What i did is, every time i opened up that scene i would call the explorer, go into the application mode, browse all the way up to the material library. If it loaded them into the scene that way i could then invoke the render tree without a crash... On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Tim Borgmann i...@bt-3d.de wrote: I once had a similar problem while working on location at a company. The only work around solution was to open the rendertree first (in a clean scene) and than load the scene. I thought it maybe was caused by issues with the workgroups as it seems the crash was related to the rendertree loading some shader/rt_compounds when opened first. But I didn't had the time to investigate the problem in detail. So the workflow was open SI, hit 7 and than load the scene. Cheers Tim I'm still having crashes on one particular machine using SI 2013. on one particular scene, a big 500Mo object from cad, as soon as I hit 7, XSI crashes. I have a Quadro 4000 I already updated the drivers last month. Now I wonder if there are some settings I should tweak. This doesn't happen on other machines. It opens fine on a quadro 1800 machine. Anything to check ? any settings files to delete ? Would greatly apreciate advices.
RE: Render tree crash with SI 2013
Yeah do what Tim said - that used to fix that for me. Empty scene - hit 7 - open your scene From: ognj...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:23:36 +0200 Subject: Re: Render tree crash with SI 2013 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com I recall having a similar problem. What i did is, every time i opened up that scene i would call the explorer, go into the application mode, browse all the way up to the material library. If it loaded them into the scene that way i could then invoke the render tree without a crash... On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Tim Borgmann i...@bt-3d.de wrote: I once had a similar problem while working on location at a company. The only work around solution was to open the rendertree first (in a clean scene) and than load the scene. I thought it maybe was caused by issues with the workgroups as it seems the crash was related to the rendertree loading some shader/rt_compounds when opened first. But I didn't had the time to investigate the problem in detail. So the workflow was open SI, hit 7 and than load the scene. Cheers Tim I'm still having crashes on one particular machine using SI 2013. on one particular scene, a big 500Mo object from cad, as soon as I hit 7, XSI crashes. I have a Quadro 4000 I already updated the drivers last month. Now I wonder if there are some settings I should tweak. This doesn't happen on other machines. It opens fine on a quadro 1800 machine. Anything to check ? any settings files to delete ? Would greatly apreciate advices.
Re: Render tree crash with SI 2013
Ok, thank you all for your solution. Opening the rendertree first, seems to solve the problem ! Now, what we be a good way to investigate on this ? I had the feeling that something is off on that particular workstation, since on other projects it has also some unstability. Thank's a lot. Olivier Le 14/05/2014 16:03, Tim Borgmann a écrit : I once had a similar problem while working on location at a company. The only work around solution was to open the rendertree first (in a clean scene) and than load the scene. I thought it maybe was caused by issues with the workgroups as it seems the crash was related to the rendertree loading some shader/rt_compounds when opened first. But I didn't had the time to investigate the problem in detail. So the workflow was open SI, hit 7 and than load the scene. Cheers Tim I'm still having crashes on one particular machine using SI 2013. on one particular scene, a big 500Mo object from cad, as soon as I hit 7, XSI crashes. I have a Quadro 4000 I already updated the drivers last month. Now I wonder if there are some settings I should tweak. This doesn't happen on other machines. It opens fine on a quadro 1800 machine. Anything to check ? any settings files to delete ? Would greatly apreciate advices.
Re: Render tree crash with SI 2013
It was known issue logged as SOFT-5858:[CER]: Random crash when opening ICETree or RenderTree on certain scenes. and fixed in Softimage 2014. Thanks, Joany Original message From: olivier jeannel Date:15/05/2014 00:38 (GMT+08:00) To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Render tree crash with SI 2013 Ok, thank you all for your solution. Opening the rendertree first, seems to solve the problem ! Now, what we be a good way to investigate on this ? I had the feeling that something is off on that particular workstation, since on other projects it has also some unstability. Thank's a lot. Olivier Le 14/05/2014 16:03, Tim Borgmann a écrit : I once had a similar problem while working on location at a company. The only work around solution was to open the rendertree first (in a clean scene) and than load the scene. I thought it maybe was caused by issues with the workgroups as it seems the crash was related to the rendertree loading some shader/rt_compounds when opened first. But I didn't had the time to investigate the problem in detail. So the workflow was open SI, hit 7 and than load the scene. Cheers Tim I'm still having crashes on one particular machine using SI 2013. on one particular scene, a big 500Mo object from cad, as soon as I hit 7, XSI crashes. I have a Quadro 4000 I already updated the drivers last month. Now I wonder if there are some settings I should tweak. This doesn't happen on other machines. It opens fine on a quadro 1800 machine. Anything to check ? any settings files to delete ? Would greatly apreciate advices. attachment: winmail.dat
Re: Render Tree Crash
Ok, Problem : For a Quadro 4000 the suggested driver is 295.73 As mentionned here : http://www.nvidia.fr/object/quadro-certified-drivers.html#partner_id=11application_id=94page=driverSelected seems old old thing. I don't think it's even compatible with Redshift. Suggestion ? Le 04/03/2014 11:29, olivier jeannel a écrit : Eeeer the site propose several type ODE Performance Quadro Certified partner Autocad Performance ... Any preferences ? Le 03/03/2014 20:00, olivier jeannel a écrit : Thank's Matt! Tomorrow I'll update the driver. Le 03/03/2014 19:56, Matt Lind a écrit : We had this exact issue the other day with our GeForce 690's. The artist had driver 314 which had the issues. We upgraded his computer to use driver 332(?) and problem went away. Whatever the latest driver was, that's what we tried. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 3:24 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Render Tree Crash Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
RE: Render Tree Crash
I always take the 'performance driver'. I have the current 332.50 version installed without problems (running a quadro4000 too) -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:36 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Render Tree Crash Ok, Problem : For a Quadro 4000 the suggested driver is 295.73 As mentionned here : http://www.nvidia.fr/object/quadro-certified-drivers.html#partner_id=11appl ication_id=94page=driverSelected seems old old thing. I don't think it's even compatible with Redshift. Suggestion ? Le 04/03/2014 11:29, olivier jeannel a écrit : Eeeer the site propose several type ODE Performance Quadro Certified partner Autocad Performance ... Any preferences ? Le 03/03/2014 20:00, olivier jeannel a écrit : Thank's Matt! Tomorrow I'll update the driver. Le 03/03/2014 19:56, Matt Lind a écrit : We had this exact issue the other day with our GeForce 690's. The artist had driver 314 which had the issues. We upgraded his computer to use driver 332(?) and problem went away. Whatever the latest driver was, that's what we tried. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 3:24 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Render Tree Crash Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
Re: Render Tree Crash
Following your advice, I took Performance Pilot (Not the 3ds nor the Autocad) 332.5 and problems are GONE ! I'll let you know if something bad happen. Thank's a lot all for sharing experiences ! Le 04/03/2014 11:46, Sven Constable a écrit : I always take the 'performance driver'. I have the current 332.50 version installed without problems (running a quadro4000 too) -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:36 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Render Tree Crash Ok, Problem : For a Quadro 4000 the suggested driver is 295.73 As mentionned here : http://www.nvidia.fr/object/quadro-certified-drivers.html#partner_id=11appl ication_id=94page=driverSelected seems old old thing. I don't think it's even compatible with Redshift. Suggestion ? Le 04/03/2014 11:29, olivier jeannel a écrit : Eeeer the site propose several type ODE Performance Quadro Certified partner Autocad Performance ... Any preferences ? Le 03/03/2014 20:00, olivier jeannel a écrit : Thank's Matt! Tomorrow I'll update the driver. Le 03/03/2014 19:56, Matt Lind a écrit : We had this exact issue the other day with our GeForce 690's. The artist had driver 314 which had the issues. We upgraded his computer to use driver 332(?) and problem went away. Whatever the latest driver was, that's what we tried. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 3:24 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Render Tree Crash Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
Re: Render Tree Crash
Last i heard the 320 drivers were pretty stable, but beware of the the earlier releases as some were know to brick cards upon install. Do you have the shaderball preview open in the material editor., im guessing that could cause a mess... On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:23 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.frwrote: Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
Re: Render Tree Crash
Nope, no Shader ball here. Thank's for your input ! Le 03/03/2014 12:39, Ognjen Vukovic a écrit : Last i heard the 320 drivers were pretty stable, but beware of the the earlier releases as some were know to brick cards upon install. Do you have the shaderball preview open in the material editor., im guessing that could cause a mess... On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:23 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
RE: Render Tree Crash
We had this exact issue the other day with our GeForce 690's. The artist had driver 314 which had the issues. We upgraded his computer to use driver 332(?) and problem went away. Whatever the latest driver was, that's what we tried. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 3:24 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Render Tree Crash Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
Re: Render Tree Crash
Thank's Matt! Tomorrow I'll update the driver. Le 03/03/2014 19:56, Matt Lind a écrit : We had this exact issue the other day with our GeForce 690's. The artist had driver 314 which had the issues. We upgraded his computer to use driver 332(?) and problem went away. Whatever the latest driver was, that's what we tried. Matt -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of olivier jeannel Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 3:24 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Render Tree Crash Hi, It's been a long time that I noticed some fragility when I hit the 7 key to open the render tree. XSI happen to immediatly crash with a windows error message (SI 2013 stop functionning...). Now, I have that scene that always crashes as soon as I hit the 7 key. I've tried merging scene and muting viewport, but no luck. The weird thing is that it doesn't crash on other machine. Crashing Machine is Windows7 Quadro4000 Functioning machine is XP Quadro 1800. I suspect it might comes from the Nvidia drivers, and would like to know what's the safer driver ? Driver is 311.35 here. Thank you, Olivier
