Re: positivity

[Chris Marshall]

A big plus 1 from here too!!
Well said!


On 20 December 2013 11:50, adrian wyer wrote:

>   Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general
> mood of users and the future of our little group
>
>
>
> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
> here)
>
>
>
> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was
> an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and
> feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out
> about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>
>
>
> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
> equivalent of Godwin's law!
>
> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online
> forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole,
> a nice place to hang out.
>
> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of
> our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry
> IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in
> the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the
> first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the
> computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But
> there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but
> there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force
> of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
>
>
>
> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it
> won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be
> the lack of users
>
>
>
> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's
> quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's
> been in ages.
>
> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By
> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a
> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we
> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses
> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up
> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software
> (and new innovations and features)
>
> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>
>
>
> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>
>
>
> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>
>
>
> a
>
>
>
> Adrian Wyer
> Fluid Pictures
> 75-77 Margaret St.
> London
> W1W 8SY
> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>
>
> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>
> www.fluid-pictures.com
>
>
>
> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
> Company number:5657815
> VAT number: 872 6893 71
>
>
>



-- 

Chris Marshall
Mint Motion Limited
029 20 37 27 57
07730 533 115
www.mintmotion.co.uk

Re: positivity

[Sandy Sutherland]

Hear hear - 1000+ on this Adrian, well said!

S.

On 2013/12/20 1:50 PM, adrian wyer wrote:


Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood 
of users and the future of our little group


Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many 
threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not 
discounting my self here)


When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it 
was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, 
encouragement and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was 
great place to find out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)


While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for 
techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden 
tech equivalent of Godwin's law!


This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other 
online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, 
on the whole, a nice place to hang out.


There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future 
of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the 
industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested 
interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of 
abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd 
rather step away from the computer, than be forced to learn an 
older/inferior application) But there IS a future, the app isn't 
dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of 
skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be able 
to keep the fires burning!


If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know 
it, it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne 
(cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users


While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for 
it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile 
than it's been in ages.


What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the 
software is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and 
break technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle 
with. By spreading the word other software users and students get to 
hear what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, 
and then we benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, 
then more courses will be taught using the app and as long as 
freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, there'll be a demand for 
new versions of the software (and new innovations and features)


I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, 
primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app 
it is come for the ICE, stay for the object 
model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!


I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public 
space that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep 
it alive, and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead 
fingers!!


oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)

a

Adrian Wyer
Fluid Pictures
75-77 Margaret St.
London
W1W 8SY
++44(0) 207 580 0829


adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com 
mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>


www.fluid-pictures.com 
http://www.fluid-pictures.com/>


Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
Company number:5657815
VAT number: 872 6893 71

Re: positivity

[Morten Bartholdy]

Very well put Adrian. I am as concerned as anyone about the future of my
favorite tool but the future lies in may ways in our hands, as we are in a
position to nudge things in the direction we want. Positivity is generally
a good mindset, and it certainly applies here.

I miss Porls bright observations on life in general BTW :)

Morten Bartholdy
VFX Supervisor
gimmickvfx.com




Den 20. december 2013 kl. 12:50 skrev adrian wyer
:

> 
> Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of
> users and the future of our little group
> 
> 
> 
> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
> here)
> 
> 
> 
> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was
> an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and
> feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out
> about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
> 
> 
> 
> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques
> and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent
> of Godwin's law!
> 
> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online
> forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole,
> a nice place to hang out.
> 
> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of
> our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry
> IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in
> the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the
> first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the
> computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But
> there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but
> there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force
> of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
> 
> 
> 
> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it
> won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be
> the lack of users
> 
> 
> 
> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's
> quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's
> been in ages.
> 
> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is,
> how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical
> boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the
> word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is,
> they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a
> new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using
> the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks,
> there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations
> and features)
> 
> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
> 
> 
> 
> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
> 
> 
> 
> a
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian Wyer
> Fluid Pictures
> 75-77 Margaret St .
> London
> W1W 8SY
> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
> 
> 
> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
> mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>
> 
> www.fluid-pictures.com
> http://www.fluid-pictures.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales .
> Company number:5657815
> VAT number: 872 6893 71
> 
> 
> 

Re: positivity

[patrick nethercoat]

Wahey! *that's* the spirit.

Merry Christmas everybody.


On 20 December 2013 12:04, Chris Marshall  wrote:

> A big plus 1 from here too!!
> Well said!
>
>
> On 20 December 2013 11:50, adrian wyer wrote:
>
>>   Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general
>> mood of users and the future of our little group
>>
>>
>>
>> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
>> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
>> here)
>>
>>
>>
>> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it
>> was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement
>> and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find
>> out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>>
>>
>>
>> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
>> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
>> equivalent of Godwin's law!
>>
>> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online
>> forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole,
>> a nice place to hang out.
>>
>> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of
>> our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry
>> IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in
>> the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the
>> first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the
>> computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But
>> there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but
>> there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force
>> of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
>>
>>
>>
>> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it,
>> it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will
>> be the lack of users
>>
>>
>>
>> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for
>> it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than
>> it's been in ages.
>>
>> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
>> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
>> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By
>> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a
>> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we
>> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses
>> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up
>> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software
>> (and new innovations and features)
>>
>> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
>> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
>> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
>> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
>> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>>
>>
>>
>> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>>
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>
>>
>> Adrian Wyer
>> Fluid Pictures
>> 75-77 Margaret St.
>> London
>> W1W 8SY
>> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>>
>>
>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>>
>> www.fluid-pictures.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
>> Company number:5657815
>> VAT number: 872 6893 71
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Marshall
> Mint Motion Limited
> 029 20 37 27 57
> 07730 533 115
> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>
>

Re: positivity

[Byron Nash]

The positivity is appreciated. After spending the last month or so mostly
working in another package I appreciate Softimage even more than I already
did. I agree that keeping the outflow of head turning work can attract
users and change perceptions.

Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all!


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:

>   Very well put Adrian. I am as concerned as anyone about the future of
> my favorite tool but the future lies in may ways in our hands, as we are in
> a position to nudge things in the direction we want. Positivity is
> generally a good mindset, and it certainly applies here.
>
>
>
> I miss Porls bright observations on life in general BTW :)
>
>
>
> Morten Bartholdy
>
> VFX Supervisor
>
> gimmickvfx.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Den 20. december 2013 kl. 12:50 skrev adrian wyer <
> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>:
>
>Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood
> of users and the future of our little group
>
>
>
>  Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
> here)
>
>
>
>  When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it
> was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement
> and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find
> out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>
>
>
>  While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
> equivalent of Godwin's law!
>
>  This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other
> online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the
> whole, a nice place to hang out.
>
>  There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future
> of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the
> industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested
> interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning
> ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from
> the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application)
> But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller,
> but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by
> force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
>
>
>
>  If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it,
> it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will
> be the lack of users
>
>
>
>  While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for
> it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than
> it's been in ages.
>
>  What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By
> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a
> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we
> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses
> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up
> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software
> (and new innovations and features)
>
>  I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>
>
>
>  I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>
>
>
>  oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>
>
>
>  a
>
>
>
>  Adrian Wyer
> Fluid Pictures
> 75-77 Margaret St .
> London
> W1W 8SY
> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>
>
> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>
>  www.fluid-pictures.com
>
>
>
>  Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales .
> Company number:5657815
> VAT number: 872 6893 71
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: positivity

[Christian Gotzinger]

Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants
because they annoy me to no end.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer <
adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com> wrote:

>   Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general
> mood of users and the future of our little group
>
>
>
> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
> here)
>
>
>
> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was
> an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and
> feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out
> about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>
>
>
> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
> equivalent of Godwin's law!
>
> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online
> forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole,
> a nice place to hang out.
>
> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of
> our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry
> IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in
> the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the
> first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the
> computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But
> there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but
> there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force
> of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
>
>
>
> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it
> won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be
> the lack of users
>
>
>
> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's
> quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's
> been in ages.
>
> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By
> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a
> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we
> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses
> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up
> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software
> (and new innovations and features)
>
> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>
>
>
> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>
>
>
> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>
>
>
> a
>
>
>
> Adrian Wyer
> Fluid Pictures
> 75-77 Margaret St.
> London
> W1W 8SY
> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>
>
> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>
> www.fluid-pictures.com
>
>
>
> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
> Company number:5657815
> VAT number: 872 6893 71
>
>
>

Re: positivity

[Jordi Bares]

Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog, aka, 
passion and others have been winning the major share of the prestigious BTAA 
and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3 it has been an 
overwhelming round.

Well said Adrian

Jb 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants 
> because they annoy me to no end.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer 
>>  wrote:
>> Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood of 
>> users and the future of our little group
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads into 
>> a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self here)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it was 
>> an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement and 
>> feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find out 
>> about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for techniques 
>> and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech equivalent of 
>> Godwin's law!
>> 
>> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online 
>> forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole, 
>> a nice place to hang out.
>> 
>> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of 
>> our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry IS 
>> constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in the 
>> continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the first 
>> sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than 
>> be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But there IS a future, 
>> the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but there is still a 
>> wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll be 
>> able to keep the fires burning!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it, it 
>> won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be 
>> the lack of users
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for it's 
>> quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than it's 
>> been in ages.
>> 
>> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software is, 
>> how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break technical 
>> boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading the 
>> word other software users and students get to hear what a great app it is, 
>> they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we benefit by having a 
>> new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using 
>> the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through the ranks, 
>> there'll be a demand for new versions of the software (and new innovations 
>> and features)
>> 
>> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily for 
>> ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come for 
>> the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space 
>> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive, 
>> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> a
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Adrian Wyer
>> Fluid Pictures
>> 75-77 Margaret St.
>> London
>> W1W 8SY 
>> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>> 
>> 
>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>> 
>> www.fluid-pictures.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
>> Company number:5657815
>> VAT number: 872 6893 71
> 

Re: positivity

[Francisco Criado]

Amen!
F.



2013/12/20 Jordi Bares 

> Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog,
> aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the
> prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3
> it has been an overwhelming round.
>
> Well said Adrian
>
> Jb
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants
> because they annoy me to no end.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer <
> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general
>> mood of users and the future of our little group
>>
>>
>>
>> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
>> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
>> here)
>>
>>
>>
>> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it
>> was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement
>> and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find
>> out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>>
>>
>>
>> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
>> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
>> equivalent of Godwin's law!
>>
>> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other online
>> forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the whole,
>> a nice place to hang out.
>>
>> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future of
>> our software (no different from many other package's forums, the industry
>> IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest in
>> the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning ship at the
>> first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from the
>> computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application) But
>> there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller, but
>> there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by force
>> of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
>>
>>
>>
>> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it,
>> it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will
>> be the lack of users
>>
>>
>>
>> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for
>> it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than
>> it's been in ages.
>>
>> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
>> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
>> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By
>> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a
>> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we
>> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses
>> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up
>> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software
>> (and new innovations and features)
>>
>> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
>> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
>> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
>> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
>> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>>
>>
>>
>> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>>
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>
>>
>> Adrian Wyer
>> Fluid Pictures
>> 75-77 Margaret St.
>> London
>> W1W 8SY
>> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>>
>>
>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>>
>> www.fluid-pictures.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
>> Company number:5657815
>> VAT number: 872 6893 71
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: positivity

[Emilio Hernandez]

Absolutley!

People said the Mayans said that the world will end in 2013  And here
we are!

Merry Christmas and Happy New* 2014 *to all of you!






2013/12/20 Francisco Criado 

> Amen!
> F.
>
>
>
> 2013/12/20 Jordi Bares 
>
>> Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill, analog,
>> aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the
>> prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3
>> it has been an overwhelming round.
>>
>> Well said Adrian
>>
>> Jb
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the rants
>> because they annoy me to no end.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer <
>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general
>>> mood of users and the future of our little group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
>>> into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
>>> here)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it
>>> was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement
>>> and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find
>>> out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
>>> techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
>>> equivalent of Godwin's law!
>>>
>>> This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other
>>> online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the
>>> whole, a nice place to hang out.
>>>
>>> There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future
>>> of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the
>>> industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested
>>> interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning
>>> ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from
>>> the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application)
>>> But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller,
>>> but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by
>>> force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it,
>>> it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will
>>> be the lack of users
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for
>>> it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than
>>> it's been in ages.
>>>
>>> What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
>>> is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
>>> technical boundaries that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By
>>> spreading the word other software users and students get to hear what a
>>> great app it is, they might try it, they might get hooked, and then we
>>> benefit by having a new talent pool. If there's demand, then more courses
>>> will be taught using the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up
>>> through the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the software
>>> (and new innovations and features)
>>>
>>> I have friends who've come across from other apps to use Soft, primarily
>>> for ICE, but then have realised what a great all round app it is come
>>> for the ICE, stay for the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on a public space
>>> that i love my software, i believe we are empowered to help keep it alive,
>>> and they'll get it off me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian Wyer
>>> Fluid Pictures
>>> 75-77 Margaret St.
>>> London
>>> W1W 8SY
>>> ++44(0) 207 580 0829
>>>
>>>
>>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com
>>>
>>> www.fluid-pictures.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fluid Pictures Limited is registered in England and Wales.
>>> Company number:5657815
>>> VAT number: 872 6893 71
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: positivity

[Stephan Haitz]

Thought about paying the subscription lately and ... I paid it to show 
Autodesk that there are Softimage users...  naive thinking, but ...


So Merry Christmas and have a nice 2014. And many more years with Soft...



Absolutley!

People said the Mayans said that the world will end in 2013  And 
here we are!


Merry Christmas and Happy New*2014 *to all of you!






2013/12/20 Francisco Criado >


Amen!
F.



2013/12/20 Jordi Bares mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>>

Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks,
mill, analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the
major share of the prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the
last 10 years and in the last 3 it has been an overwhelming round.

Well said Adrian

Jb

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger
mailto:cgo...@googlemail.com>> wrote:


Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in
all the rants because they annoy me to no end.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer
mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>> wrote:

Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the
general mood of users and the future of our little group

Lately the list has been falling into the habit of
turning many threads into a doom saying, end-of-the-world
kind of vibe (not discounting my self here)

When i first joined this list (and the much missed
Discussion list) it was an invaluable resource for shared
knowledge, instruction, encouragement and feedback (both
positive and negative) also it was great place to find
out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)

While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable
resource for techniques and news, we are occasionally
running into the doom laden tech equivalent of Godwin's law!

This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared
with other online forums/mailing lists, in that it's
mostly self moderated and, on the whole, a nice place to
hang out.

There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty
regarding the future of our software (no different from
many other package's forums, the industry IS constantly
shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested interest
in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of
abandoning ship at the first sign of choppy waters.
(frankly i'd rather step away from the computer, than be
forced to learn an older/inferior application) But
there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community
might be smaller, but there is still a wealth of skill
and experience here, and i hope, by force of will, we'll
be able to keep the fires burning!

If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage
as we know it, it won't be some bean counter in an office
at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will be the lack of users

While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks
volumes for it's quality, and that work is getting better
and more high profile than it's been in ages.

What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how
enabling the software is, how it helps us hit deadlines,
create amazing imagery and break technical boundaries
that other DCC apps really do struggle with. By spreading
the word other software users and students get to hear
what a great app it is, they might try it, they might get
hooked, and then we benefit by having a new talent pool.
If there's demand, then more courses will be taught using
the app and as long as freelancers keep coming up through
the ranks, there'll be a demand for new versions of the
software (and new innovations and features)

I have friends who've come across from other apps to use
Soft, primarily for ICE, but then have realised what a
great all round app it is come for the ICE, stay for
the object model/rendertree/passes etc, etc, etc!

I'm not preaching/ranting (much) i just want to put it on
a public space that i love my software, i believe we are
empowered to help keep it alive, and they'll get it off
me when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!!

oh and merry christmas, you cheesy monkey boys (and girls)

a

Adrian Wyer
Fluid Pictures
75-77 Margaret St.
London
W1W 8SY
++44(0) 207 580 0829

Re: positivity

[Eric Mootz]

+1  thanx for this refreshing and positive post, Adrian.

Cheers to y'all!

Eric.

Re: positivity

[Matt Morris]

Can't agree enough - hear hear! Looking forward to the next bit of kick ass
work :)


On 20 December 2013 15:13, Eric Mootz  wrote:

>  +1  thanx for this refreshing and positive post, Adrian.
>
> Cheers to y'all!
>
> Eric.
>



-- 
www.matinai.com

Re: positivity

[Eric Lampi]

Few people are as big a fan of Soft as I am. I've been using it since
1995, Soft 3D 3.0 and Soft is still all I use. You will get no argument
from me about how great it is to work with. In my experience, it's very
rare someone who has started using it after having experience with Maya or
Max come away from it a little surprised at how much easier it is to be
productive.

Positive, negative, my mood is irrelevant towards it. I don't know what
action if anything would have a meaningful impact on what amounts to a
business decision. We've all seen how it's been marketed, the proof is in
what you see in front of you, not platitudes meanwhile ICE like modules (or
at least last I heard) are in development for Maya. Along with BetaMax and
Commodore Amiga, it's not the first time hype won over a good product.
Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock. So
when I hear one thing and see another, it's that saying that comes to mind.

I'm just a lone freelancer, the only people on this list who have any pull
are the CG supervisors, leads and studio owners who have the ability to
decide where their dollars go. I would certainly love to be completely
wrong and have to apologize, trust me.  Sorry if I upset anyone with my
comments... As I am writing this, I see Kris has managed to take the can of
worms I opened and proceeded to throw them all over the room and set the
place on fire.

Have a great Holiday everyone.

Eric




Freelance 3D and VFX animator

http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Stephan Haitz wrote:

>  Thought about paying the subscription lately and ... I paid it to show
> Autodesk that there are Softimage users...  naive thinking, but ...
>
> So Merry Christmas and have a nice 2014. And many more years with Soft...
>
>
>   Absolutley!
>
>  People said the Mayans said that the world will end in 2013  And here
> we are!
>
>  Merry Christmas and Happy New* 2014 *to all of you!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/20 Francisco Criado 
>
>> Amen!
>> F.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/20 Jordi Bares 
>>
>>>  Some facts. Softimage work done by the likes of glassworks, mill,
>>> analog, aka, passion and others have been winning the major share of the
>>> prestigious BTAA and Cannes lions for the last 10 years and in the last 3
>>> it has been an overwhelming round.
>>>
>>>  Well said Adrian
>>>
>>>  Jb
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:56, Christian Gotzinger 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Thank you, finally some positivity! I never participate in all the
>>> rants because they annoy me to no end.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, adrian wyer <
>>> adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com> wrote:
>>>
  Hey guys, just wanted to raise some points regarding the general mood
 of users and the future of our little group



 Lately the list has been falling into the habit of turning many threads
 into a doom saying, end-of-the-world kind of vibe (not discounting my self
 here)



 When i first joined this list (and the much missed Discussion list) it
 was an invaluable resource for shared knowledge, instruction, encouragement
 and feedback (both positive and negative) also it was great place to find
 out about cheese and monkeys! (i'm looking at you Ed)



 While i still find the list to be a hugely valuable resource for
 techniques and news, we are occasionally running into the doom laden tech
 equivalent of Godwin's law!

 This list is a gift, as many of you know, when compared with other
 online forums/mailing lists, in that it's mostly self moderated and, on the
 whole, a nice place to hang out.

 There's obviously been some doubt and uncertainty regarding the future
 of our software (no different from many other package's forums, the
 industry IS constantly shifting), and believe me i have a VERY vested
 interest in the continued use of Soft, i have NO intention of abandoning
 ship at the first sign of choppy waters. (frankly i'd rather step away from
 the computer, than be forced to learn an older/inferior application)
 But there IS a future, the app isn't dead, the community might be smaller,
 but there is still a wealth of skill and experience here, and i hope, by
 force of will, we'll be able to keep the fires burning!



 If anything is going to bring about the end of Softimage as we know it,
 it won't be some bean counter in an office at Autodyne (cyberdesk?) it will
 be the lack of users



 While we can't 'make' autodesk push soft, our work speaks volumes for
 it's quality, and that work is getting better and more high profile than
 it's been in ages.

 What we CAN do is tell people in the industry how enabling the software
 is, how it helps us hit deadlines, create amazing imagery and break
 technical boundaries that other DCC apps r

Re: positivity

[Eric Thivierge]

Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that 
snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent 
times I have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm 
afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and 
what could have been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into 
a bitch-fest.


The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction 
seriously almost made me unsubscribe.


If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. 
Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, 
in general).


- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[Kris Rivel]

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)

Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

> Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs
> into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to
> think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get
> pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful
> / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
>
> The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
> seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
>
> If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
> stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
> general).
>
> - Eric T.
>
>

RE: positivity

[Ed Harriss]

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old.) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).

- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[Meng-Yang Lu]

Regardless if it's true or not, the take-away should be what we value.  A
strong platform for development, a strong community who are passionate
about pursuing technology and art, and a workflow that keeps our working
hours short and beer glasses full.

If we embrace these ideas whole-heartedly, then the only thing needed is a
strong platform to rebuild these ideas upon.  It doesn't have to be owned
by an "evil" company or fly under the banner of a familiar name.  There are
already technologies out there that hold this promise.  And by redirecting
the talents of artist and developers onto something that is a bit more
open, it will also create a wake of opportunities and ultimately providing
more jobs.

There's a lot to look forward to.  As these emerging technologies mature,
we'll find there are even more interesting projects that may not have been
present on our radar, but could greatly benefit from our skills, talent,
and passion.

The future is extremely bright.

Merry Christmas everyone!

-Lu



On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Kris Rivel  wrote:

> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
> for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
> do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
> with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
> or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
>
> Kris
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
>> Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs
>> into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to
>> think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get
>> pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful
>> / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
>>
>> The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
>> seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
>>
>> If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
>> stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
>> general).
>>
>> - Eric T.
>>
>>
>

Re: positivity

[Kris Rivel]

Well said!  I'm looking forward to the future to be honest.  There's a lot
of great new things I think on the horizon, especially with the
cloud...look at Clara.io and Lagoa.  In the meantime, we have Soft,
Mootzoid, Exocortex and all the other cool stuff!  Looking forward to
2014...whatever may happen.

Kris


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Meng-Yang Lu  wrote:

> Regardless if it's true or not, the take-away should be what we value.  A
> strong platform for development, a strong community who are passionate
> about pursuing technology and art, and a workflow that keeps our working
> hours short and beer glasses full.
>
> If we embrace these ideas whole-heartedly, then the only thing needed is a
> strong platform to rebuild these ideas upon.  It doesn't have to be owned
> by an "evil" company or fly under the banner of a familiar name.  There are
> already technologies out there that hold this promise.  And by redirecting
> the talents of artist and developers onto something that is a bit more
> open, it will also create a wake of opportunities and ultimately providing
> more jobs.
>
> There's a lot to look forward to.  As these emerging technologies mature,
> we'll find there are even more interesting projects that may not have been
> present on our radar, but could greatly benefit from our skills, talent,
> and passion.
>
> The future is extremely bright.
>
> Merry Christmas everyone!
>
> -Lu
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Kris Rivel  wrote:
>
>> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
>> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
>> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
>> for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
>> do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
>> with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
>> or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that
>>> snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I
>>> have to think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread
>>> will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been
>>> a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
>>>
>>> The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
>>> seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
>>>
>>> If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
>>> stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
>>> general).
>>>
>>> - Eric T.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: positivity

[sc...@turbulenceffects.com]

Thanks Kris, Merry Christmas to everyone here as well. Eric T, thanks for 
hanging in. Your opinions and contributions here are most valued. Thank you. 
Scott 

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Eric Thivierge" 
To: 
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 1:11 PM


Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).

- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[sc...@turbulenceffects.com]

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. 

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" 
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.


Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Kris Rivel

Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM

To: Softimage List

Subject: Re: positivity


Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)




Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge  wrote:

Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my
thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have 
been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.



The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.



If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..



- Eric T.

RE: positivity

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of 
sc...@turbulenceffects.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[Meng-Yang Lu]

1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:

>  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
>
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>
>
>
> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
>
>
> Takers?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> __
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>
>  - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" 
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>
>
>
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the
> old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty
> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie,
> particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a
> Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
>
>
>
> Perfect!
>
>
>
> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
> *To:* Softimage List
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
> for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
> do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
> with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
> or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
>
>
>
> Kris
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
> wrote:
>
> Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs
> into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to
> think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get
> pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful
> / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
>
> The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
> seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
>
> If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
> stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
> general)..
>
> - Eric T.
>
>
>

Re: positivity

[Alok Gandhi]

Mine was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum

Did some cool graphics/pixel programs on it. I guess during 1987 to 
1989. Still have it somewhere in my attic.


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On 12/20/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl 
is up to these days.


But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?

It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It 
just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.


Takers?

--

Joey Ponthieux

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of 
*sc...@turbulenceffects.com

*Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
*Subject:* Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>

Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in 
the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all 
fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is 
pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like 
eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this 
list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom 
and doom.


Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)

Thanks!

Happy Holidays!

Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel

*Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
*To:* Softimage List
*Subject:* Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start 
anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told 
the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F 
themselves for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like 
this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I 
don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't 
know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)


Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:


Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that
snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In
recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list
because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole
of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative
thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that
direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at
it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically
Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[Rares Halmagean]

wow, I actually remember playing on one of those, and I was born a 
couple years before it came out.


Marry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Seasons greetings softies :).


On 12/20/2013 4:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu wrote:

1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. 
(LARC-E1A)[LITES] mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> 
wrote:


I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what
Porl is up to these days.

But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the
year?

It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc.
It just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--

Joey Ponthieux

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf Of
*sc...@turbulenceffects.com <mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
*Subject:* Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>"
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we
had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is
pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists
like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have
this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)

Thanks!

Happy Holidays!

Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of
*Kris Rivel
*Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
*To:* Softimage List
*Subject:* Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I
told the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to
go F themselves for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see
rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day
and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used
to so I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.
 Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)

Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:

Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking
that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it.
In recent times I have to think twice about posting to the
list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the
black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful /
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that
direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have
at it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed
specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.




--
*Rares Halmagean
___
*visual development and 3d character & content creation.
*rarebrush.com* <http://rarebrush.com/>

Re: positivity

[Rares Halmagean]

Actually way before that ...


On 12/20/2013 4:24 PM, Rares Halmagean wrote:
wow, I actually remember playing on one of those, and I was born a 
couple years before it came out.


Marry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Seasons greetings softies :). 


--
*Rares Halmagean
___
*visual development and 3d character & content creation.
*rarebrush.com* 

RE: positivity

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

The first graphics system I ever used was a Compugraphic 7770 II in 1984.

http://www.prepressure.com/prepress/history/events-1970-1979
(contains a pic of a Compugraphic EditWriter 7500 which preceded it)

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:09 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of 
sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[Sergio Mucino]

  
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64
During '82-'83, I think. Programmed graphics in Basic reading a
bunch of Data statements and feeding those to draw calls. Ah,
painting 1 pixel at the time... (not missing it, really... but at
the time, it felt like magic).

On 20/12/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux,
  Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


  
  
  
  
I
  can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder
  what Porl is up to these days.
  
But
as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

 
What’s
the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the
year?
It
doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout,
etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of
graphics.
 
Takers?
 

  --
  Joey
  Ponthieux
  __
  Opinions
  stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
  
  represent
  the opinions of NASA or any other party.

 

  
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
    Subject: Re: positivity
  

 
Ha
ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.


Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint



  -
  Reply message -
  From: "Ed Harriss" <ed.harr...@sas.com>
  To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
  <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
  Subject: positivity
  Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

 
Maybe
we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we
had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which
was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage
list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were
even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m
old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list
and create another one for all the gloom and doom.

 
Perfect!
 
Now
get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!
 
Happy
Holidays!
Ed
“cheese and monkeys” Harriss
 
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
        To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity
 

  Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.
 I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm
the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for
what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this
butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I
don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I
didn't know if this may be old news or something new.
 Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
  
 
  
  
Kris

  On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric
Thivierge <ethivie...@hybride.com>
wrote:
  
Only
  thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking
  that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm
  tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice
  about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread
  will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and
  what could have been a helpful / informative thread
  will be turned into a bitch-fest.
  
  The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in
  that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
  
  If you want to complain about the demise of a
  software, have at it. Just stop hijacking threads with
  it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..
  
  - Eric T.
  

 
  

  


-- 
  

  

Re: positivity

[Stefan Kubicek]

My first one was a TI99 in 1981 or '82: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-99/4AIt had a 16bit Prozessor, which was unusual for a home computer at that time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64
During '82-'83, I think. Programmed graphics in Basic reading a
bunch of Data statements and feeding those to draw calls. Ah,
painting 1 pixel at the time... (not missing it, really... but at
the time, it felt like magic).

On 20/12/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux,
  Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


  
  
  
  
I
  can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder
  what Porl is up to these days.
  
But
as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

 
What’s
the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the
year?
It
doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout,
etc. It just had to be a computer than did any kind of
graphics.
 
Takers?
 

  --
  Joey
  Ponthieux
  __
  Opinions
  stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
  
  represent
  the opinions of NASA or any other party.

 

  
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
        Subject: Re: positivity
  

 
Ha
ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.


Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint



  -
  Reply message -
  From: "Ed Harriss" <ed.harr...@sas.com>
  To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
  <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
  Subject: positivity
  Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

 
Maybe
we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we
had in the old days. There was the discussion list, which
was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage
list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There were
even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m
old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list
and create another one for all the gloom and doom.

 
Perfect!
 
Now
get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!
 
Happy
Holidays!
Ed
“cheese and monkeys” Harriss
 
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
    To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity
 

  Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.
 I'm not trying to start anything...just want to see if I'm
the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for
what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this
butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I
don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I
didn't know if this may be old news or something new.
 Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
  
 
  
  
Kris

  On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric
Thivierge <ethivie...@hybride.com>
wrote:
  
Only
  thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking
  that snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm
  tired of it. In recent times I have to think twice
  about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread
  will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and
  what could have been a helpful / informative thread
  will be turned into a bitch-fest.
  
  The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in
  that direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
  
  If

Re: positivity

[Alok Gandhi]

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Re: positivity

[Eric Lampi]

WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>

1988

I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
animation on it.

My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
if he looked at the screen off center.

Good times.

Eric

Freelance 3D and VFX animator

http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:

>  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
>
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>
>
>
> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
>
>
> Takers?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> __
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>
>  - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" 
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>
>
>
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the
> old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty
> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie,
> particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a
> Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
>
>
>
> Perfect!
>
>
>
> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
> *To:* Softimage List
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
> for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
> do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
> with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
> or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
>
>
>
> Kris
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
> wrote:
>
> Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs
> into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to
> think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get
> pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful
> / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
>
> The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
> seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
>
> If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
> stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
> general)..
>
> - Eric T.
>
>
>

RE: positivity

[Scott Lange]

Ahem…. Ok cause you guys are Softimage friends… TRS 80 – 1980… actually before 
that… on a dec machine Star trek the game… in 1978… OMG…. I must be drunk… 
BARTENDER! COME DOWN HERE!

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:09 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

 

I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days. 

But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. 

 

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?

It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

 

Takers?

 

--

Joey Ponthieux

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>  
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of 
sc...@turbulenceffects.com <mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

 

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. 

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com> >
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> " 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

 

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom. 

 

Perfect!

 

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)

Thanks!

 

Happy Holidays!

Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>  
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

 

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

 

Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com> > wrote:

Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.

 

RE: positivity

[Matt Lind]

My computer graphics career has circular logic.

My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had to 
write commands to draw pictures like:

HLINE 60, 80
COLOR=8
RUN

In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video 
toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the 
luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion 
control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so much 
interference we couldn't get reception on the boombox despite being located 
only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80

Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative 
Environment 2.6




Matt




From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>

1988

I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for a 
naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color palette 
based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. I didn't 
have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate a drawing 
mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the arrow keys to 
move the cursor around to pin start and end points for elements. I won't even 
get into what it took to do animation on it.
My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen noodles 
every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me once that 
a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he looked at 
the screen off center.

Good times.
Eric

Freelance 3D and VFX animator

http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only

Re: positivity

[Emilio Hernandez]

Well my first computer was an Apple II plus with 48k of RAM, two five inch
and half floppy drives.  The first graphic I ever did was the cover album
of Judas Priest Screaming for Vengeance in that Apple II Plus with mouse
paint.

Cheers.




2013/12/20 Matt Lind 

> My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>
>
>
> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and
> had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>
>
>
> HLINE 60, 80
>
> COLOR=8
>
> RUN
>
>
>
> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I
> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
> broadcast.
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>
>
>
> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
> Environment 2.6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>
> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>
> 1988
>
> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
> for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
> color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
> disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
> and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
> animation on it.
>
> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
> me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
> if he looked at the screen off center.
>
>
> Good times.
>
> Eric
>
>
> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>
> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
>
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>
>
>
> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
>
>
> Takers?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> __
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" 
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>
>
>
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the
> old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty
> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie,
> particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a
> Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
>
>
>
> Perfect!
>
>
>
> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
> *On

Re: positivity

[Eric Lampi]

I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome!

Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape!

Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on anything
other than an Amiga in those days.

Eric

Freelance 3D and VFX animator

http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>
>
>
> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and
> had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>
>
>
> HLINE 60, 80
>
> COLOR=8
>
> RUN
>
>
>
> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I
> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
> broadcast.
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>
>
>
> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
> Environment 2.6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>
> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>
> 1988
>
> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
> for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
> color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
> disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
> and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
> animation on it.
>
> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
> me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
> if he looked at the screen off center.
>
>
> Good times.
>
> Eric
>
>
> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>
> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
>
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>
>
>
> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
>
>
> Takers?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> __
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>
>
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" 
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>
>
>
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the
> old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty
> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie,
> particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a
> Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
>
>
>
> Perfect!
>
>
>
> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listpro

Re: positivity

[Paul Griswold]

I think some of my first paid jobs as an animator was using an Amiga 2000 and a 
DCTV going direct to an MII recorder.  The DCTV was an amazing piece of tech!

—
Sent from Mailbox for iPad

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric Lampi  wrote:

> I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome!
> Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape!
> Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on anything
> other than an Amiga in those days.
> Eric
> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
>> My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and
>> had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>>
>>
>>
>> HLINE 60, 80
>>
>> COLOR=8
>>
>> RUN
>>
>>
>>
>> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
>> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I
>> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
>> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
>> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
>> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
>> broadcast.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>>
>>
>>
>> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
>> Environment 2.6
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>
>>
>>
>> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>>
>> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>>
>> 1988
>>
>> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
>> for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
>> color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
>> disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
>> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
>> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
>> and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
>> animation on it.
>>
>> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
>> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
>> me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
>> if he looked at the screen off center.
>>
>>
>> Good times.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>
>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
>> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
>> up to these days.
>>
>> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>>
>>
>>
>> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>>
>> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
>> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>>
>>
>>
>> Takers?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joey Ponthieux
>>
>> __
>>
>> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>>
>> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
>> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>
>>
>>
>> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>>
>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: &quo

Re: positivity

[William Morrison]

Jeez.  yeah I do think I still remember some Basic.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Paul Griswold <
pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:

> I think some of my first paid jobs as an animator was using an Amiga 2000
> and a DCTV going direct to an MII recorder.  The DCTV was an amazing piece
> of tech!
>
> —
> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPad
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric Lampi  wrote:
>
>>  I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome!
>>
>>  Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape!
>>
>> Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on
>> anything other than an Amiga in those days.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>
>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind wrote:
>>
>>>  My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and
>>> had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HLINE 60, 80
>>>
>>> COLOR=8
>>>
>>> RUN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
>>> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I
>>> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
>>> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
>>> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
>>> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
>>> broadcast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
>>> Environment 2.6
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>>>
>>> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>>>
>>> 1988
>>>
>>> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
>>> for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
>>> color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
>>> disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
>>> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
>>> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
>>> and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
>>> animation on it.
>>>
>>> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
>>> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
>>> me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
>>> if he looked at the screen off center.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good times.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>  Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>>
>>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
>>> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
>>> up to these days.
>>>
>>> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>>>
>>> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It
>>> just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Takers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 

Re: positivity

[Daniel Brassard]

Fortran on a Dell PDP-1124 circa 1974

Build my first computer based on the motorola 6500 chipset, Heathkit
keyboard, four color display screen circa 1977. Burned a hole on my wooden
desk on the first try! What a glory!


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM, William Morrison <
williamdmorri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeez.  yeah I do think I still remember some Basic.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Paul Griswold <
> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>
>> I think some of my first paid jobs as an animator was using an Amiga 2000
>> and a DCTV going direct to an MII recorder.  The DCTV was an amazing piece
>> of tech!
>>
>> —
>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric Lampi  wrote:
>>
>>>  I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome!
>>>
>>>  Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape!
>>>
>>> Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on
>>> anything other than an Amiga in those days.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>>
>>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind wrote:
>>>
>>>>  My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school
>>>> and had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HLINE 60, 80
>>>>
>>>> COLOR=8
>>>>
>>>> RUN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
>>>> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I
>>>> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
>>>> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
>>>> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
>>>> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
>>>> broadcast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
>>>> Environment 2.6
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>>>>
>>>> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> 1988
>>>>
>>>> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training
>>>> lessons for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had
>>>> a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay
>>>> laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
>>>> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
>>>> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
>>>> and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
>>>> animation on it.
>>>>
>>>> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
>>>> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
>>>> me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
>>>> if he looked at the screen off center.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good times.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>>>
>>>> http://vimeopro.com/

Re: positivity

[Daniel Brassard]

Marry Chrismas, Happy Holidays and Happy New Years to all and a successful
year 2014.

Cheers!


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Daniel Brassard wrote:

> Fortran on a Dell PDP-1124 circa 1974
>
> Build my first computer based on the motorola 6500 chipset, Heathkit
> keyboard, four color display screen circa 1977. Burned a hole on my wooden
> desk on the first try! What a glory!
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM, William Morrison <
> williamdmorri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeez.  yeah I do think I still remember some Basic.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Paul Griswold <
>> pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think some of my first paid jobs as an animator was using an Amiga
>>> 2000 and a DCTV going direct to an MII recorder.  The DCTV was an amazing
>>> piece of tech!
>>>
>>> —
>>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric Lampi  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I had an A2000, DCTV was awesome!
>>>>
>>>>  Screw you single frame controllers! Real-time animation to tape!
>>>>
>>>> Wow, I almost forgot how painful it was to output video to tape on
>>>> anything other than an Amiga in those days.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>>>
>>>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Matt Lind wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school
>>>>> and had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HLINE 60, 80
>>>>>
>>>>> COLOR=8
>>>>>
>>>>> RUN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
>>>>> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation 
>>>>> I
>>>>> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
>>>>> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
>>>>> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
>>>>> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
>>>>> broadcast.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
>>>>> Environment 2.6
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1988
>>>>>
>>>>> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training
>>>>> lessons for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had
>>>>> a 16 color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay
>>>>> laser disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
>>>>> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
>>>>> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
>>>>> and end points for elements. I won't even get in

Re: positivity

[Bradley Gabe]

Insects squished and smeared on a rock.
No undo functionality, but the hardware never failed.
Software was buggy, however.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Brassard wrote:

> Fortran on a Dell PDP-1124 circa 1974
>
> Build my first computer based on the motorola 6500 chipset, Heathkit
> keyboard, four color display screen circa 1977. Burned a hole on my wooden
> desk on the first try! What a glory!
>
>  \

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: positivity

[Ed Manning]

one of these:


with one of these:



1976 or 7

Wrote a game that had to do with firing artillery. The teletype actually
printed a "screen" showing the gun, the target, and the explosion.

Not very responsive...


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Bradley Gabe  wrote:

> Insects squished and smeared on a rock.
> No undo functionality, but the hardware never failed.
> Software was buggy, however.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Brassard wrote:
>
>> Fortran on a Dell PDP-1124 circa 1974
>>
>> Build my first computer based on the motorola 6500 chipset, Heathkit
>> keyboard, four color display screen circa 1977. Burned a hole on my wooden
>> desk on the first try! What a glory!
>>
>>  \
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: positivity

[Ben Houston]

My dad bought the family an Apple IIe and then taught me the basics of
coding.  I spent way too much time programming it to do graphics when I
should have been playing outside. :)  -ben


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:

> Well my first computer was an Apple II plus with 48k of RAM, two five inch
> and half floppy drives.  The first graphic I ever did was the cover album
> of Judas Priest Screaming for Vengeance in that Apple II Plus with mouse
> paint.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/20 Matt Lind 
>
>> My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and
>> had to write commands to draw pictures like:
>>
>>
>>
>> HLINE 60, 80
>>
>> COLOR=8
>>
>> RUN
>>
>>
>>
>> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint,
>> video toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I
>> had the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
>> motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
>> much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
>> located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
>> broadcast.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>>
>>
>>
>> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
>> Environment 2.6
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lampi
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>
>>
>>
>> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
>>
>> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf<http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
>>
>> 1988
>>
>> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
>> for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
>> color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
>> disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
>> interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
>> etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
>> and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
>> animation on it.
>>
>> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
>> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
>> me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
>> if he looked at the screen off center.
>>
>>
>> Good times.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>
>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
>> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
>> up to these days.
>>
>> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>>
>>
>>
>> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>>
>> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It
>> just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>>
>>
>>
>> Takers?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joey Ponthieux
>>
>> __
>>
>> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>>
>> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
>> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>
>>
>>
>> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>>
>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Ed Harriss" 
>> To: "so

Re: positivity

[Sandy Sutherland]

Raise you a ZX81 - must be similar year'ish - all of a whopping 1K of 
RAM :-P


S.

On 2013/12/21 12:11 AM, Alok Gandhi wrote:

Mine was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum

Did some cool graphics/pixel programs on it. I guess during 1987 to 
1989. Still have it somewhere in my attic.


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On 12/20/2013 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl 
is up to these days.


But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?

It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It 
just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.


Takers?

--

Joey Ponthieux

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of 
*sc...@turbulenceffects.com

*Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
*Subject:* Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>

Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had 
in the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all 
fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is 
pretty much what we are using now. There were even other lists like 
eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this 
list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom 
and doom.


Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)

Thanks!

Happy Holidays!

Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris 
Rivel

*Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
*To:* Softimage List
*Subject:* Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start 
anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told 
the guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F 
themselves for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors 
like this butI do sit at home mostly working all day and night. 
 I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't 
know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)


Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:


Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that
snowballs into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In
recent times I have to think twice about posting to the list
because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled into the black hole
of negativity and what could have been a helpful / informative
thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that
direction seriously almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at
it. Just stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically
Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.

Re: positivity

[Sandy Sutherland]

OOoo missed the 'graphics' part - mine was a Commodore Amiga 500 and 
1000 if I remember right, and the first modelling package I had was used 
by plotting on graph paper co-ordinates, then you enter these into the 
computer to make a geometry!  Can't really remember the year.


S.

On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl 
is up to these days.


But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?

It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It 
just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.


Takers?

--

Joey Ponthieux

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

Re: positivity

[Chris Chia]

Hi guys,
Just popping by to greet all the fellows here a Merry Xmas and a Happy 2015 
ahead! Stay Positive and look on the bright side!

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Dec, 2013, at 7:07 am, Matt Lind  wrote:
> 
> My computer graphics career has circular logic.
>  
> My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and had 
> to write commands to draw pictures like:
>  
> HLINE 60, 80
> COLOR=8
> RUN
>  
> In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video 
> toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had the 
> luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with motion 
> control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so much 
> interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being located 
> only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were broadcast.
>  
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
>  
> Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative 
> Environment 2.6
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Matt
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: positivity
>  
> WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf
> 
> 1988
> 
> I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons for 
> a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16 color 
> palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser disc video. 
> I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line interface, to activate 
> a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box etc... I had to use the 
> arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start and end points for 
> elements. I won't even get into what it took to do animation on it.
> 
> My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen 
> noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told me 
> once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed if he 
> looked at the screen off center.
> 
> Good times.
> 
> Eric
> 
> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
> 
> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>  
> 
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
>  wrote:
> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up 
> to these days.
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>  
> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just 
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>  
> Takers?
>  
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>  
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of 
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> Subject: Re: positivity
>  
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. 
> 
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" 
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
> 
>  
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the 
> old days. There was the discussion list, which was all 
> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty 
> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie, particle, 
> etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a Softimage list 
> and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
>  
> Perfect!
>  
> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
> Thanks!
>  
> Happy Holidays!
> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
>  
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
> To: Softimage List
> Subject: Re: positivity
>  
> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start 
> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the 
> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for 
> what its worth.  

Re: positivity

[Eric Mootz]

Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette. 
Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :)


On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:

  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up 
to these days. 

  But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. 



  What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?

  It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just 
had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.



  Takers?



  --

  Joey Ponthieux

  __

  Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 

  represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

Re: positivity

[Sebastien Sterling]

Merry Christmas everyone !


On 21 December 2013 11:49, Eric Mootz  wrote:

>  Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette.
> Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :)
>
>
> On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
>
>  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
>
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>
>  What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
>  Takers?
>
>  --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> __
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
>
>

Re: positivity

[peter_b]

apple II, IIe and IIc here (my dad had these for work)
I fondly remember FantaVision which was a kind of morphing graphics software – 
though I definitely spent more time on Ultima 4
must have been middle of the eighties - little did I know that I’d be using 
computers for a living one day .

From: Eric Mootz 
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:49 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: positivity

Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette. 
Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :)


On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:

  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up 
to these days. 

  But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest. 


  What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?

  It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just 
had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.


  Takers?


  --

  Joey Ponthieux

  __

  Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 

  represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.





<>

Re: positivity

[Emilio Hernandez]

Wow I totally forgot about Ultima!!   I spent a lot of time playing Ultima
on that old Apple II +

haha




2013/12/21 

>   apple II, IIe and IIc here (my dad had these for work)
> I fondly remember FantaVision which was a kind of morphing graphics
> software – though I definitely spent more time on Ultima 4
> must have been middle of the eighties - little did I know that I’d be
> using computers for a living one day [image: Smile].
>
>  *From:* Eric Mootz 
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:49 AM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>
>  Atari 800 XL with one of those greenish monitors and a datasette.
> Before that I fiddled a bit on my Grandma'a Apple IIe computer :)
>
>
> On 2013/12/21 12:08 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
>
>  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
>
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>
>  What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
>  Takers?
>
>  --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> __
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
>
>
<>

Re: positivity

[Graham D. Clark]

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said
that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
-- 
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu  wrote:

> 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite
>
> Did I win?  :P
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>>  I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl
>> is up to these days.
>>
>> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
>>
>>
>>
>> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
>>
>> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It
>> just had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>>
>>
>>
>> Takers?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joey Ponthieux
>>
>> __
>>
>> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>>
>> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
>> *To:* softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>
>>
>>
>> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>>
>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>>
>>  - Reply message -
>> From: "Ed Harriss" 
>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
>> Subject: positivity
>> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in
>> the old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
>> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty
>> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie,
>> particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a
>> Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perfect!
>>
>>
>>
>> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy Holidays!
>>
>> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
>> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Kris Rivel
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
>> *To:* Softimage List
>> *Subject:* Re: positivity
>>
>>
>>
>> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
>> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
>> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
>> for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
>> do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
>> with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
>> or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kris
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs
>> into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to
>> think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get
>> pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful
>> / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
>>
>> The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
>> seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
>>
>> If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
>> stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
>> general)..
>>
>> - Eric T.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

RE: positivity

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.

What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..

- Eric T.

RE: positivity

[Morten Bartholdy]

That would be a Boston Colorgraphics Lightspeed Qolor workstation - around
1986:  http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/cg/1985/12/04056044.pdf
<http://www.computer.org/csdl/mags/cg/1985/12/04056044.pdf>  no. 2 machine
from top.

24 bit painting with a digitizer mouse with a crosshair - it could record
color images via a b/w videocamera with colored filters, which, combined,
produce full color images for further manipulation. Output with a QCR onto
slides.

Morten Bartholdy




Den 20. december 2013 kl. 23:08 skrev "Ponthieux, Joseph G.
(LARC-E1A)[LITES]" :

> 
> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up
> to these days.
> 
> But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
> 
> 
> 
> What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
> 
> It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
> 
> 
> 
> Takers?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Joey Ponthieux
> 
> __
> 
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> 
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
> 
> 
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> Subject: Re: positivity
> 
> 
> 
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
> 
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
> 
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" < ed.harr...@sas.com <mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com> >
> To: " softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> " <
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the
> old days. There was the discussion list, which was all
> fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and there was the Softimage list, which is pretty
> much what we are using now. There were even other lists like eddie,
> particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we could have this list stay a
> Softimage list and create another one for all the gloom and doom.
> 
> 
> 
> Perfect!
> 
> 
> 
> Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Holidays!
> 
> Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss
> 
> 
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [
> mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> ] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
> To: Softimage List
> Subject: Re: positivity
> 
> 
> 
> Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start
> anything...just want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the
> guys that told me to go tell the people that said this to go F themselves
> for what its worth.  It does piss me off to see rumors like this butI
> do sit at home mostly working all day and night.  I don't get to mingle
> with my peers as much as I used to so I didn't know if this may be old news
> or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll leave it at that :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Kris
> 
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge < ethivie...@hybride.com
> <mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com> > wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs
> > into a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to
> > think twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get
> > pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful
> > / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.
> > 
> > The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction
> > seriously almost made me unsubscribe.
> > 
> > If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just
> > stop hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in
> > general)..
> > 
> > - Eric T.
> > 
> 
> 
> 

Re: positivity

[Morten Bartholdy]

Right back at you and the team, Chris! Merry Christmas and a prosperous New
Year for you and all of us!

Morten



Den 21. december 2013 kl. 11:24 skrev Chris Chia :

> Hi guys,
> Just popping by to greet all the fellows here a Merry Xmas and a Happy 2015
> ahead! Stay Positive and look on the bright side!
> 
> Chris
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 21 Dec, 2013, at 7:07 am, Matt Lind < ml...@carbinestudios.com
> <mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com> > wrote:
> > 
> > My computer graphics career has circular logic.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > My first computer was the Apple II when I was barely in grade school and
> > had to write commands to draw pictures like:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > HLINE 60, 80
> > 
> > COLOR=8
> > 
> > RUN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In college I used the Amigas 500 thru 4000 systems with deluxe paint, video
> > toaster, DCTV, Lightwave 0.9, and so on, but just before graduation I had
> > the luxury of working with the ever popular Tandy TRS-80 for use with
> > motion control camera stands to do multi-planar and slit scans.  Caused so
> > much interference we couldn’t get reception on the boombox despite being
> > located only a few blocks away from the Sears Tower where the signals were
> > broadcast.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Shortly after that I got my chance on the SGI with Softimage Creative
> > Environment 2.6
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [
> > mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> ] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi
> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:52 PM
> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> > <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> > Subject: Re: positivity
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > WICAT systems, System 300 and 150.
> > http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/wicat/brochures/System_300_Brochure.pdf
> > <http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/wicat/brochures/WISE_Brochure.pdf>
> > 
> > 1988
> > 
> > I worked for a defense contractor making computer based training lessons
> > for a naval combat system.  It had vector graphics program, it had a 16
> > color palette based on 4096 colors and one of 16 was used overlay laser
> > disc video. I didn't have a mouse or a gui. It was a command line
> > interface, to activate a drawing mode, cl - create line, cb- create box
> > etc... I had to use the arrow keys to move the cursor around to pin start
> > and end points for elements. I won't even get into what it took to do
> > animation on it.
> > 
> > My boss was a 55 year old retired Master Chief from Texas who ate ramen
> > noodles every day for lunch and never washed his coffee cup, EVER. He told
> > me once that a graphic I was working on was wrong because it looked skewed
> > if he looked at the screen off center.
> > 
> >   Good times.
> > 
> > Eric
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Freelance 3D and VFX animator
> > 
> > http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
> > <http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> > j.ponthi...@nasa.gov <mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> > wrote:
> > 
> > I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up
> > to these days.
> > 
> > But as for old…. Maybe we should have a contest.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What’s the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
> > 
> > It doesn’t have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> > had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Takers?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Joey Ponthieux
> > 
> > __
> > 
> > Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> > 
> > represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.aut

RE: positivity

[Ed Harriss]

A bit... But there are plenty of you guys here that don't make me feel so old! 
;)
My first machine was a TRS-80 that I got sometime around 1977. Did some 
graphics, learned basic, played really bad games.

10 Print "Cheese and Monkeys! ";
20 Goto 10

Lol.
So much fun.

I remember getting magazines with programs in them. 
The tedious typing to get them in the machine. 
The tearing them apart to make them do things that were "more fun" ;)

Ed


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that

RE: positivity

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

By todays standards almost everything was low end back then in regards to 
quality, but it was all superior to the slide rules we were using in the 60s 
and 70s! :) 

I too recall extracting dos batch file programming code one word at a time from 
a mag called DOS Resource Guide and then rewriting it into something useful.

And the basic programming had to be done by swapping the Basic floppy disks 
with OS floppy disks etc because the PC had no hard drives. Fun indeed.

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ed Harriss
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:53 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

A bit... But there are plenty of you guys here that don't make me feel so old! 
;) My first machine was a TRS-80 that I got sometime around 1977. Did some 
graphics, learned basic, played really bad games.

10 Print "Cheese and Monkeys! ";
20 Goto 10

Lol.
So much fun.

I remember getting magazines with programs in them. 
The tedious typing to get them in the machine. 
The tearing them apart to make them do things that were "more fun" ;)

Ed


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only on

RE: positivity

[Mike Donovan]

Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-)

I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a 
small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... 

If you remember where that is from ... you too are old.

Michael 
-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)

Kris
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge 
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:
Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (

Re: positivity

[Emilio Hernandez]

Reading all the oldies but goodies, and also being a guy that was born the
year the man put a feet on the moon, without any supercomputer,  I am more
convinced that I don´t need a nice viewport to get the job done... hahaha




2013/12/23 Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 

> By todays standards almost everything was low end back then in regards to
> quality, but it was all superior to the slide rules we were using in the
> 60s and 70s! :)
>
> I too recall extracting dos batch file programming code one word at a time
> from a mag called DOS Resource Guide and then rewriting it into something
> useful.
>
> And the basic programming had to be done by swapping the Basic floppy
> disks with OS floppy disks etc because the PC had no hard drives. Fun
> indeed.
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ed Harriss
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:53 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: positivity
>
> A bit... But there are plenty of you guys here that don't make me feel so
> old! ;) My first machine was a TRS-80 that I got sometime around 1977. Did
> some graphics, learned basic, played really bad games.
>
> 10 Print "Cheese and Monkeys! ";
> 20 Goto 10
>
> Lol.
> So much fun.
>
> I remember getting magazines with programs in them.
> The tedious typing to get them in the machine.
> The tearing them apart to make them do things that were "more fun" ;)
>
> Ed
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph
> G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
> To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: positivity
>
> Hey Ed,
>
> Do you still feel old? :-)
>
> Joey
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [
> mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: positivity
>
> Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the
> features Stereo D is on.
>
> I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and
> onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I
> said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
> Cheers
> --
> Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
> phone: why-I-stereo
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu  ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite
>
> Did I win?  :P
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov<mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
> But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.
>
> What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
> It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
> Takers?
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> Subject: Re: positivity
>
> Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>"  softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
> Subject: positivity
> Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>
> Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the
> old days. There was t

RE: positivity

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the 
mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring 
to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s.

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-)

I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a 
small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... 

If you remember where that is from ... you too are old.

Michael
-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It 
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to 

RE: positivity

[Mike Donovan]

Holy Crap ... Your old too !!

Michael

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:03 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the 
mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring 
to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s.

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services 
NASA Langley Research Center __
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-)

I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a 
small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... 

If you remember where that is from ... you too are old.

Michael
-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM
To: Softimage List
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
wa

RE: positivity

[Ed Harriss]

I've got that cup sitting on my desk!
http://www.edharriss.com/fic/monkees.jpg
Amazing!

Ed

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:07 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Holy Crap ... Your old too !!

Michael

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:03 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the 
mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be referring 
to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s.

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services 
NASA Langley Research Center __
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually older. ;-)

I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed was a 
small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ... 

If you remember where that is from ... you too are old.

Michael
-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph 
G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: positivity

Hey Ed,

Do you still feel old? :-)

Joey

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark 
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: positivity

Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the 
features Stereo D is on.

I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and onset 
tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I said that 
about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
Cheers
--
Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
phone: why-I-stereo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu 
mailto:ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite

Did I win?  :P


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is up to 
these days.
But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.

What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just had 
to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.

Takers?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent 
the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
Subject: Re: positivity

Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint

- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" mailto:ed.harr...@sas.com>>
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM

Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and 
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I'm old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.

Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;) Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed "cheese and monkeys" Harriss

From:

Re: positivity

[Ognjen Vukovic]

Would just like to pop in to wish everyone a merry Christmas and happy
holidays, and a very fun filled break from work. Its great to see such a
good atmosphere in the community, now all that's missing is cloud storaged
ale, but im sure someone will come up with a way of synthesizing it one
day, till then
Cheers.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Ed Harriss  wrote:

> I've got that cup sitting on my desk!
> http://www.edharriss.com/fic/monkees.jpg
> Amazing!
>
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:07 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: positivity
>
> Holy Crap ... Your old too !!
>
> Michael
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph
> G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:03 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: positivity
>
> You must be describing the Chinese restaurant in LA that Ed found for the
> mailing list meet and great back in 2001. You most certainly can't be
> referring to the band with the TV show I used to watch in the early 70s.
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical
> Services NASA Langley Research Center
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mike Donovan
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:51 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com; mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: positivity
>
> Hehe ... Yes he does ... he is very old ... but I think I am actually
> older. ;-)
>
> I just moved into a new house ... amongst the myriad of crap I had packed
> was a small porcelain white cup ... the inscription read ... MONKEES ...
>
> If you remember where that is from ... you too are old.
>
> Michael
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph
> G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:46 PM
> To: mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: positivity
>
> Hey Ed,
>
> Do you still feel old? :-)
>
> Joey
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Graham D. Clark [
> mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:36 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: positivity
>
> Thanks Adrian for keeping it positive, we use Softimage for most of the
> features Stereo D is on.
>
> I use Soft to prototype tools outside of soft, for other programs and
> onset tools. Plan to keep using it for the foreseeable future. Can't say I
> said that about the Commodore PET I started on in 1980.
> Cheers
> --
> Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D
> phone: why-I-stereo
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Meng-Yang Lu  ntmon...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 1983 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite
>
> Did I win?  :P
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov<mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
> I can say I miss the cheese and monkeys humor and do wonder what Porl is
> up to these days.
> But as for old Maybe we should have a contest.
>
> What's the oldest computer graphics system you worked on, and the year?
> It doesn't have to be 3D, it can be 2d, print, video, layout, etc. It just
> had to be a computer than did any kind of graphics.
>
> Takers?
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of
> sc...@turbulenceffects.com<mailto:sc...@turbulenceffects.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:24 PM
> To: softimage@listproc. autodesk. com
> Subject: Re: positivity
>
> Ha