Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-02-06 Thread Clifford Perry

Miroslav Suchý wrote:

Devan Goodwin wrote:

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Noticing a lot of newcomers really struggling with our devel setup
lately and got to wondering how many others out there aren't actually
even using it. Anyone feel like sharing what, if anything, they're
doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
here (and why):

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup

I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
different to lower the barrier to entry.


I personally disagree with the whole DevelopmentWorkstationSetup idea. 
Since you will get something which differs from final Spacewalk. And I 
do not want to run tests and experiments directly on my workstation.


I prefer to have Spacewalk installed on different virtual machine and 
test the code there. I write code on my machine.

Python/perl code I then copy directly.
For java I use this workflow:
I edit .java file in git on my machine and then in virtual machine as root:
# cd /tmp
# mkdir -p com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/
# scp 
myn...@mymachine:spacewalk.git/java/src/com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/KickstartCommand.java 
 com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/
# javac -extdirs /var/lib/tomcat5/webapps/rhn/WEB-INF/lib/ 
com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/KickstartCommand.java
# jar uf /usr/share/rhn/lib/rhn.jar 
com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/KickstartCommand.class

# /etc/init.d/tomcat5 restart

If I make changes in a lot of files I run "make test-rpm" in directory 
where the package reside (can be find by cat rel-eng/packages/package>) and then copy and install the resulting rpm to that virtual 
machine.


This way I'll get exact copy of Spacewalk as others will have, when I 
commit and push my changes. No problems with schema or wrong symlinks.




Care to maybe add this as a section for alternative methodology?

Cliff

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-27 Thread Michael DeHaan

Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Michael DeHaan  wrote:
  

Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
 wrote:

  

I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema'
doesn't work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev
environment.

Also, I'd like to see https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign
fleshed out a lot more.



Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.

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Could the dev-environment be more appliancey?

How about a shell-script/recipe to automate environment setup, or publishing
a kickstart for installation of a dev-environment in a virtual machine (with
just the virt-install command
and kickstart, you should be good to go)?

One problem is grabbing the Oracle bits, for now, so that may have to be a
one-off, but everything else, perhaps...




The appliance idea is a decent one, and worth adding to the list of dev setups.
I personally use a virt guest to do my development in.  I wouldn't want the
appliance to be the only way of dev setup.

A great idea though.
jesus

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By appliance I mean a virt guest with a kickstart and and 
embedded/recipe script that gets everything working.


It should not be an image.

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-26 Thread Jason Dobies

> Currently I set up my Development box on a CentOs workstation.  I
> setup a NFS mount so I could mount my checkout on my F10 laptop.  I
> also plan on installing a couple VMS on the Centos machine to act as
> test clients. I currently have one installed so far.  

I have a somewhat similar setup. I do my development on F10 and then
rsync over to my RHEL box where I build, run, and run test cases.

Also note that with this set up I am able to run checkstyle on my F10
box however, which makes that part a bit easier.

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RE: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-24 Thread Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
After sending my response I found 
https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/TracingaPage which helped a lot.

CC


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Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
 wrote:
> I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema' doesn't 
> work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev environment.
>
> Also, I'd like to see https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign 
> fleshed out a lot more.

Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.

jesus

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Partha Aji

My setup involves the following

1) Workstation with Fedora on it. This workstation has eclipse +
sudo yum install ant-nodeps junit ant-junit java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel
sudo rpm -Uvh 
http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/jpackage/1.7/generic/free/RPMS/ivy-1.3.1-1jpp.noarch.rpm

it also has a checkout of the spacewalk git repo.
The checkout directory has the code directory listed in /etc/exports to 
make it  available across systems for NFS mount.

It also has a Vmware Server running on it with a Rhel 5 VM.


2) The Rhel 5 VM has Spacewalk setup from the 
https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/HowToInstall instructions ..
I then go to 
https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup
I skip the git checkoout part and instead mount the directory exported 
from fedora.., I follow every other step formt he development 
workstation setup.


Idea is to do the development + compilation using the  Eclipse IDE on 
Fedora and runtime with ant/tomcat5/apache etc on Rhel 5 where a 
'spacewalk-like' environemnt is present.


Trick is to maintain the same directory structure + user permission 
(including same UID + GIDs) information across both machines..

so for example if the git directory is in
/opt/sw/spacewalk on fedora it is the same in rhel 5 ..
if my UID is XXX on fedora, there must be a user with the same name and 
name UID in rhel 5.


I would think a similar setup could work for Fedora/Centos combination 
also...


This is  a fairly complicated setup but i like the separation between 
development and runtime environment..


Partha

Travis Camechis wrote:

Sounds like a good idea.  I think another useful think would to have people
describe how they setup there environment.  It would be good to see how
people streamline there development and testing.  One thing Im wondering is
how people do a lot of there testing. It looks like testing a lot of the
features could involve rebuilding VMS a lot and running the test ( not for
sure since I haven't actually used the product yet ).

Currently I set up my Development box on a CentOs workstation.  I setup a
NFS mount so I could mount my checkout on my F10 laptop.  I also plan on
installing a couple VMS on the Centos machine to act as test clients. I
currently have one installed so far.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Michael DeHaan 
wrote:

Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
 wrote:


I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema'
doesn't work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev
environment.

Also, I'd like to see

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign

fleshed out a lot more.


Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.

jesus

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Could the dev-environment be more appliancey?

How about a shell-script/recipe to automate environment setup, or

publishing

a kickstart for installation of a dev-environment in a virtual machine

(with

just the virt-install command
and kickstart, you should be good to go)?

One problem is grabbing the Oracle bits, for now, so that may have to be

a

one-off, but everything else, perhaps...


The appliance idea is a decent one, and worth adding to the list of dev
setups.
I personally use a virt guest to do my development in.  I wouldn't want the
appliance to be the only way of dev setup.

A great idea though.
jesus

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Travis Camechis
Sounds like a good idea.  I think another useful think would to have people
describe how they setup there environment.  It would be good to see how
people streamline there development and testing.  One thing Im wondering is
how people do a lot of there testing. It looks like testing a lot of the
features could involve rebuilding VMS a lot and running the test ( not for
sure since I haven't actually used the product yet ).

Currently I set up my Development box on a CentOs workstation.  I setup a
NFS mount so I could mount my checkout on my F10 laptop.  I also plan on
installing a couple VMS on the Centos machine to act as test clients. I
currently have one installed so far.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Michael DeHaan 
> wrote:
> > Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema'
> >>> doesn't work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev
> >>> environment.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I'd like to see
> https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign
> >>> fleshed out a lot more.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.
> >>
> >> jesus
> >>
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> > Could the dev-environment be more appliancey?
> >
> > How about a shell-script/recipe to automate environment setup, or
> publishing
> > a kickstart for installation of a dev-environment in a virtual machine
> (with
> > just the virt-install command
> > and kickstart, you should be good to go)?
> >
> > One problem is grabbing the Oracle bits, for now, so that may have to be
> a
> > one-off, but everything else, perhaps...
> >
>
> The appliance idea is a decent one, and worth adding to the list of dev
> setups.
> I personally use a virt guest to do my development in.  I wouldn't want the
> appliance to be the only way of dev setup.
>
> A great idea though.
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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Jesus M. Rodriguez
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Michael DeHaan  wrote:
> Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema'
>>> doesn't work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Also, I'd like to see https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign
>>> fleshed out a lot more.
>>>
>>
>> Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.
>>
>> jesus
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> Could the dev-environment be more appliancey?
>
> How about a shell-script/recipe to automate environment setup, or publishing
> a kickstart for installation of a dev-environment in a virtual machine (with
> just the virt-install command
> and kickstart, you should be good to go)?
>
> One problem is grabbing the Oracle bits, for now, so that may have to be a
> one-off, but everything else, perhaps...
>

The appliance idea is a decent one, and worth adding to the list of dev setups.
I personally use a virt guest to do my development in.  I wouldn't want the
appliance to be the only way of dev setup.

A great idea though.
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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Devan Goodwin
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:45:48 +0530
tushar  wrote:

> 
> when:-at the time of Installing Web application :-  these are the
> last few steps which are mentioned in 
> wiki(https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup)
> 
> * cd $GITDIR/spacewalk/search-server
> * make test-srpm; rpmbuild --rebuild
>   spacewalk-search-*.git.*.src.rpm; rpm -Uvh
>   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/spacewalk-search-0.4.1-1.git.*.noarch.rpm
> * it's a good idea to wipe out the search indexes, "sudo
>   /sbin/service rhn-search cleanindex"
> * sudo /sbin/rhn-satellite start
> 
> 
> At the time of performing  rpmbuild --rebuild 
> spacewalk-search-*.git.*.src.rpm;  , this command fails. as it is
> trying to search in search-server folder but if we fire this command
> under saerch-server 
> /rpmbuild-spacewalk-search-git-f51c6110bc1c7296b3478c3110a30c9dca331e9b 
> it works
> 
> 
> At the time of performing  rpm -Uvh 
> /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/spacewalk-search-0.4.1-1.git.*.noarch.rpm , 
> this also fails ,if we go to /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/ folder it
> is showing  
> spacewalk-search-0.4.10-1.git.f51c6110bc1c7296b3478c3110a30c9dca331e9b.noarch.rpm
>   
> present,we have 0.4.10 not 0.4.1

Just updated the section for spacewalk-search to:

../rel-eng/bin/build.py --test --rpm
&& /tmp/spacewalk-build/noarch/spacewalk-search-*.git.*.noarch.rpm


Cheers,

Devan

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Travis Camechis
A couple things I noticed on the setup page are slightly out of date now.

1.  cd $GITDIR/spacewalk/search-server
  make test-srpm; rpmbuild --rebuild spacewalk-search-*.git.*.src.rpm; rpm
-Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/spacewalk-
search-0.4.1-1.git.*.noarch.rpm

The src rpm does not exist directly under search-server but one dir down.
Another issue I had is the rpmbuild command tries to write to /usr/src which
you then could end up with permission issues.

2.  /etc/init.d/rhn-satellite stop
It appears to be now suggested to use /usr/sbin/rhn-satellite stop  ( I
think its in /usr/sbin now ).

Please correct me if I am wrong in any of these cases.  These are just a
couple things that caused me a few hicups during the dev setup process.


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Michael DeHaan  wrote:

> Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I've found thaasfat doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema'
>>> doesn't work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Also, I'd like to see 
>>> https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesignfleshed out a lot more.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.
>>
>> jesus
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>
> Could the dev-environment be more appliancey?
>
> How about a shell-script/recipe to automate environment setup, or
> publishing a kickstart for installation of a dev-environment in a virtual
> machine (with just the virt-install command
> and kickstart, you should be good to go)?
>
> One problem is grabbing the Oracle bits, for now, so that may have to be a
> one-off, but everything else, perhaps...
>
> --Michael
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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Michael DeHaan

Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
 wrote:
  

I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema' doesn't 
work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev environment.

Also, I'd like to see https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign 
fleshed out a lot more.



Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.

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Could the dev-environment be more appliancey?

How about a shell-script/recipe to automate environment setup, or 
publishing a kickstart for installation of a dev-environment in a 
virtual machine (with just the virt-install command

and kickstart, you should be good to go)?

One problem is grabbing the Oracle bits, for now, so that may have to be 
a one-off, but everything else, perhaps...


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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Jesus M. Rodriguez
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
 wrote:
> I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema' doesn't 
> work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev environment.
>
> Also, I'd like to see https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign 
> fleshed out a lot more.

Anything in particular?  I'd be happy to update it.

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-23 Thread Miroslav Suchý

Devan Goodwin wrote:

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Noticing a lot of newcomers really struggling with our devel setup
lately and got to wondering how many others out there aren't actually
even using it. Anyone feel like sharing what, if anything, they're
doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
here (and why):

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup

I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
different to lower the barrier to entry.


I personally disagree with the whole DevelopmentWorkstationSetup idea. 
Since you will get something which differs from final Spacewalk. And I 
do not want to run tests and experiments directly on my workstation.


I prefer to have Spacewalk installed on different virtual machine and 
test the code there. I write code on my machine.

Python/perl code I then copy directly.
For java I use this workflow:
I edit .java file in git on my machine and then in virtual machine as root:
# cd /tmp
# mkdir -p com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/
# scp 
myn...@mymachine:spacewalk.git/java/src/com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/KickstartCommand.java 
 com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/
# javac -extdirs /var/lib/tomcat5/webapps/rhn/WEB-INF/lib/ 
com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/KickstartCommand.java
# jar uf /usr/share/rhn/lib/rhn.jar 
com/redhat/rhn/domain/kickstart/KickstartCommand.class

# /etc/init.d/tomcat5 restart

If I make changes in a lot of files I run "make test-rpm" in directory 
where the package reside (can be find by cat rel-eng/packages/package>) and then copy and install the resulting rpm to that virtual 
machine.


This way I'll get exact copy of Spacewalk as others will have, when I 
commit and push my changes. No problems with schema or wrong symlinks.



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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-22 Thread tushar

tushar wrote:

Hi Guys,

While Installing Spacewalk(0.4), we faced this following issues on RHEL-5


  
when:-at the time of starting rhn-search service:-


[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search status
rhn-search is not running.
[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search start
Starting rhn-search...
[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search status
rhn-search is running (27497).

Oops ,i forget to paste  2 more  lines :-

[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search start
Starting rhn-search...
[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search status
rhn-search is running (27497).
[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search status
rhn-search is not running.
[r...@tushar noarch]#

  


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regards,tushar

http://webeatoracle.com




  



 
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Noticing a lot of newcomers really struggling with our devel setup
lately and got to wondering how many others out there aren't actually
even using it. Anyone feel like sharing what, if anything, they're
doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
here (and why):

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup

I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
different to lower the barrier to entry.

Thanks,

Devan

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-22 Thread tushar

Hi Guys,

While Installing Spacewalk(0.4), we faced this following issues on RHEL-5

when :- at the time of configure the application  (spacewalk-setup 
--disconnected)


Installation completed but got this message "Tomcat failed to start" 
too. then we have to start this service manually. I faced this issue 2-3 
times on different machine having RHEL-5.


when:-at the time of Installing Web application :-  these are the last 
few steps which are mentioned in 
wiki(https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup)


   * cd $GITDIR/spacewalk/search-server
   * make test-srpm; rpmbuild --rebuild
 spacewalk-search-*.git.*.src.rpm; rpm -Uvh
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/spacewalk-search-0.4.1-1.git.*.noarch.rpm
   * it's a good idea to wipe out the search indexes, "sudo
 /sbin/service rhn-search cleanindex"
   * sudo /sbin/rhn-satellite start


At the time of performing  rpmbuild --rebuild 
spacewalk-search-*.git.*.src.rpm;  , this command fails. as it is trying 
to search in search-server folder but if we fire this command under  
saerch-server 
/rpmbuild-spacewalk-search-git-f51c6110bc1c7296b3478c3110a30c9dca331e9b 
it works



At the time of performing  rpm -Uvh 
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/spacewalk-search-0.4.1-1.git.*.noarch.rpm , 
this also fails ,if we go to /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/ folder it is 
showing  
spacewalk-search-0.4.10-1.git.f51c6110bc1c7296b3478c3110a30c9dca331e9b.noarch.rpm  
present,we have 0.4.10 not 0.4.1



when:-at the time of Installing  Deploying development schema :-

At the time of performing make satellite-clean satellite-release 
TBS=USERS SQLUSER=spacewalk/spacew...@xe , it reaches to quit.sql but 
whenever it try to again connect to oracle sql*client

it give this error :-

ERROR:
ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve the connect identifier specified (three time), and i have verified i am able to connect to sqlplus using instance name like username/passw...@instancename 
and without giving like username/password.




when:-at the time of starting rhn-search service:-

[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search status
rhn-search is not running.
[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search start
Starting rhn-search...
[r...@tushar noarch]# service rhn-search status
rhn-search is running (27497).
  




--
   
regards,tushar
   
http://webeatoracle.com








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lately and got to wondering how many others out there aren't actually
even using it. Anyone feel like sharing what, if anything, they're
doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
here (and why):

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup

I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
different to lower the barrier to entry.

Thanks,

Devan

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-22 Thread Travis Camechis
I also had issues with "deploying development schema".

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer) <
colin@woodside.com.au> wrote:

> I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema'
> doesn't work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev
> environment.
>
> Also, I'd like to see 
> https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesignfleshed out a lot more.
>
> CC
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> doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
> here (and why):
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup
>
> I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
> different to lower the barrier to entry.
>
> Thanks,
>
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RE: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-22 Thread Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer)
I've found that doing the steps under 'Deploying Development Schema' doesn't 
work (for me anyway) and ends up needing to redo the dev environment.

Also, I'd like to see https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/JavaDesign 
fleshed out a lot more.

CC


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doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
here (and why):

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup

I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
different to lower the barrier to entry.

Thanks,

Devan

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Informal Devel Environment Survey

2009-01-22 Thread Travis Camechis
One thing I think would be helpful is a page on the build system and
building all the pieces.  I am not new to ant but I am new to actually
building RPMS so I thought that might be helpful.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Devan Goodwin  wrote:

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> here (and why):
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> https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup
>
> I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
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>
> Thanks,
>
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doing differently from the standard devel environment setup defined
here (and why):

https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/DevelopmentWorkstationSetup

I have a gut feeling we should recommend something drastically
different to lower the barrier to entry.

Thanks,

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