Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-30 Thread David Zhao
Hi Matt and Jimmy,

I'm processing a Thermo Q-exactive generated raw file, and I see some
discrenpencies in the mzXML ms/ms peak data and dta generated using
mzxml2search tool by using msconvert or ReAdW-4.6.0.exe.
mzXML was generated using standard parameters without any filter.
ReAdW.exe --mzXML -c
msconvert.exe --mzXML --32

and I used mzxml2search from TPP to convert mzXML to dta files, please
find attached dta files for scan 3, they are quite different.

Thanks,

David


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:
 David,

 ReAdW requires the corresponding XRawfile2.dll from Thermo's Xcalibur
 software; it currently won't work with the one from MSFileReader.  If I get
 time this week, I can see if I can get it working with MSFileReader.


 On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Jimmy. Another question (sorry :-): does ReAdW expects
 Xrawfile2.dll to reside in a particular directory? My PC is 64 bit Windows 7
 machine, I downloaded Msfilereader from Thermo (I don't have Xcalibur
 installed on my machine), and installed the 32 bit version. Msconvert works
 fine. However, even after I run regsvr32 C:\Program Files
 (x86)\Thermo\MSFileReader\XRawfile2.dll, ReAdW still gives me an error:
 Unable to initialize Xcalibur 2.0 interface; falling back to 1.4 interface
 Unable to initialize XCalibur 1.4 interface; check installation
 hint: try running the command regsvr32
 C:\path_to_Xcalibur_dll\XRawfile2.dll
 unable to interface with Thermo library

 So first of all, can I use the dll from MSFileReader with ReAdW.exe, if I
 can, how should I register it so it'll be found the program.
 Thanks so much!

 David

 On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can find the ReAdW binary I use here:
 https://proteomicsresource.washington.edu/tools.php

 There's no huge changes from previous releases.  Mainly minor fixes to
 support the Q Exactive instrument, remove 0 intensity peaks for file size,
 etc.


 On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy. I may need a updated version of ReAdW. Do you know if I
 can let ReAdW or msconvet to output raw file header information, such as
 method used, serial number, processing mode, etc.

 David


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:43:47 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the TPP.

 For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert
 which is now the default converter in the TPP.

 I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get update
 as needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi
 SourceForge project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you want an
 updated binary.

 There is no one who currently owns jrap.  Consider taking ownership
 of it yourself if you think you can update it.


 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to:
 https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
 Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw files
 to mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said, mzXML 
 specs
 hasn't changed either.

 BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right person
 if it still is.
 Thanks,

 David


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can
 find in MSToolkit.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as
 suggested. My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap 
 to
 parse mzXML file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by 
 ReAdW from
 the latest Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative 
 mz and
 intensities).
 However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which
 makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search 
 use
 in this case then?
 Thanks,

 David

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:

 And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP),
 then I’d recommend jmzreader:

 http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/



 Cheers,

 Eric





 From: spctools...@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:spctools...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Eng


 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
 To: spctools...@googlegroups.com

 Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being
 updated because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you 
 want to
 look for alternatives ...



 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
 http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent
 this is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

 Also MSToolkit:  https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit

Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-30 Thread Jimmy Eng
David,

You are centroiding -c with ReAdW and not with msconvert.  Remove
centroiding in ReAdW or add it to msconvert and then compare results.


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Matt and Jimmy,

 I'm processing a Thermo Q-exactive generated raw file, and I see some
 discrenpencies in the mzXML ms/ms peak data and dta generated using
 mzxml2search tool by using msconvert or ReAdW-4.6.0.exe.
 mzXML was generated using standard parameters without any filter.
 ReAdW.exe --mzXML -c
 msconvert.exe --mzXML --32

 and I used mzxml2search from TPP to convert mzXML to dta files, please
 find attached dta files for scan 3, they are quite different.

 Thanks,

 David


 On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:
  David,
 
  ReAdW requires the corresponding XRawfile2.dll from Thermo's Xcalibur
  software; it currently won't work with the one from MSFileReader.  If I
 get
  time this week, I can see if I can get it working with MSFileReader.
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks, Jimmy. Another question (sorry :-): does ReAdW expects
  Xrawfile2.dll to reside in a particular directory? My PC is 64 bit
 Windows 7
  machine, I downloaded Msfilereader from Thermo (I don't have Xcalibur
  installed on my machine), and installed the 32 bit version. Msconvert
 works
  fine. However, even after I run regsvr32 C:\Program Files
  (x86)\Thermo\MSFileReader\XRawfile2.dll, ReAdW still gives me an error:
  Unable to initialize Xcalibur 2.0 interface; falling back to 1.4
 interface
  Unable to initialize XCalibur 1.4 interface; check installation
  hint: try running the command regsvr32
  C:\path_to_Xcalibur_dll\XRawfile2.dll
  unable to interface with Thermo library
 
  So first of all, can I use the dll from MSFileReader with ReAdW.exe, if
 I
  can, how should I register it so it'll be found the program.
  Thanks so much!
 
  David
 
  On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  You can find the ReAdW binary I use here:
  https://proteomicsresource.washington.edu/tools.php
 
  There's no huge changes from previous releases.  Mainly minor fixes to
  support the Q Exactive instrument, remove 0 intensity peaks for file
 size,
  etc.
 
 
  On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Thanks Jimmy. I may need a updated version of ReAdW. Do you know if I
  can let ReAdW or msconvet to output raw file header information, such
 as
  method used, serial number, processing mode, etc.
 
  David
 
 
  On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:43:47 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:
 
  Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the
 TPP.
 
  For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert
  which is now the default converter in the TPP.
 
  I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get
 update
  as needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi
  SourceForge project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you
 want an
  updated binary.
 
  There is no one who currently owns jrap.  Consider taking ownership
  of it yourself if you think you can update it.
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to:
  https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
  Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw
 files
  to mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said,
 mzXML specs
  hasn't changed either.
 
  BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right
 person
  if it still is.
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
 
  On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:
 
  I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you
 can
  find in MSToolkit.
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as
  suggested. My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on
 jrap to
  parse mzXML file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by
 ReAdW from
  the latest Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return
 negative mz and
  intensities).
  However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine,
 which
  makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does
 mzXML2search use
  in this case then?
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
  On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:
 
  And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like
 JRAP),
  then I’d recommend jmzreader:
 
  http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/
 
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  Eric
 
 
 
 
 
  From: spctools...@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:spctools...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Eng
 
 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
  To: spctools...@googlegroups.com
 
  Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question
 
 
 
  At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being

Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-30 Thread Matt Chambers

Hi David,

-c is not a standard parameter. It is a filter that specifies centroiding instead of profile mode... 
thus your ReAdW DTA has peaks and your msconvert DTA has profile data points. But I also suggest 
that mzxml2search should have printed a warning (or did you ignore it?) because the mzXML was 
annotated to be in profile mode and profile mode DTAs and MGFs are senseless AFAIK.


Hope this helps,
-Matt


On 1/30/2013 2:41 PM, David Zhao wrote:

Hi Matt and Jimmy,

I'm processing a Thermo Q-exactive generated raw file, and I see some
discrenpencies in the mzXML ms/ms peak data and dta generated using
mzxml2search tool by using msconvert or ReAdW-4.6.0.exe.
mzXML was generated using standard parameters without any filter.
ReAdW.exe --mzXML -c
msconvert.exe --mzXML --32

and I used mzxml2search from TPP to convert mzXML to dta files, please
find attached dta files for scan 3, they are quite different.

Thanks,

David


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:

David,

ReAdW requires the corresponding XRawfile2.dll from Thermo's Xcalibur
software; it currently won't work with the one from MSFileReader.  If I get
time this week, I can see if I can get it working with MSFileReader.


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks, Jimmy. Another question (sorry :-): does ReAdW expects
Xrawfile2.dll to reside in a particular directory? My PC is 64 bit Windows 7
machine, I downloaded Msfilereader from Thermo (I don't have Xcalibur
installed on my machine), and installed the 32 bit version. Msconvert works
fine. However, even after I run regsvr32 C:\Program Files
(x86)\Thermo\MSFileReader\XRawfile2.dll, ReAdW still gives me an error:
Unable to initialize Xcalibur 2.0 interface; falling back to 1.4 interface
Unable to initialize XCalibur 1.4 interface; check installation
hint: try running the command regsvr32
C:\path_to_Xcalibur_dll\XRawfile2.dll
unable to interface with Thermo library

So first of all, can I use the dll from MSFileReader with ReAdW.exe, if I
can, how should I register it so it'll be found the program.
Thanks so much!

David

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jimmy Eng jke...@gmail.com wrote:


You can find the ReAdW binary I use here:
https://proteomicsresource.washington.edu/tools.php

There's no huge changes from previous releases.  Mainly minor fixes to
support the Q Exactive instrument, remove 0 intensity peaks for file size,
etc.


On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com
wrote:


Thanks Jimmy. I may need a updated version of ReAdW. Do you know if I
can let ReAdW or msconvet to output raw file header information, such as
method used, serial number, processing mode, etc.

David


On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:43:47 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:


Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the TPP.

For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert
which is now the default converter in the TPP.

I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get update
as needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi
SourceForge project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you want an
updated binary.

There is no one who currently owns jrap.  Consider taking ownership
of it yourself if you think you can update it.


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to:
https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw files
to mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said, mzXML specs
hasn't changed either.

BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right person
if it still is.
Thanks,

David


On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:


I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can
find in MSToolkit.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com
wrote:


Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as
suggested. My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap to
parse mzXML file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by ReAdW from
the latest Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative mz and
intensities).
However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which
makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search use
in this case then?
Thanks,

David

On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:


And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP),
then I’d recommend jmzreader:

http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/



Cheers,

Eric





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[mailto:spctools...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Eng


Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
To: spctools...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap

Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-30 Thread David Zhao
: spctools...@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:spctools...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Eng


 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
 To: spctools...@googlegroups.com

 Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being
 updated because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if
 you want to
 look for alternatives ...



 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
 http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent
 this is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

 Also MSToolkit:  https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/



 Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries
 out there (which I know there are).



 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated
 anymore.
 If i'd like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library
 should I
 follow?

 Thanks,



 David



 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with
 what versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:

 http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/



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Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-20 Thread David Zhao
Thanks Jimmy. I may need a updated version of ReAdW. Do you know if I can 
let ReAdW or msconvet to output raw file header information, such as method 
used, serial number, processing mode, etc.

David

On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:43:47 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the TPP.

 For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert which 
 is now the default converter in the TPP.

 I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get update as 
 needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi SourceForge 
 project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you want an updated 
 binary.

 There is no one who currently owns jrap.  Consider taking ownership of 
 it yourself if you think you can update it.


 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to: 
 https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
 Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw files to 
 mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said, mzXML specs 
 hasn't changed either.

 BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right person if 
 it still is.
 Thanks,

 David


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can 
 find in MSToolkit.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as suggested. 
 My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap to parse mzXML 
 file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by ReAdW from the 
 latest 
 Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative mz and 
 intensities).
 However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which 
 makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search use 
 in this case then?
 Thanks,

 David

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:

 And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP), 
 then I’d recommend jmzreader:

 http://code.google.com/p/**jmzre**ader/http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/

  

 Cheers,

 Eric

  

  
  
 *From:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:spctools...@**
 googlegrou**ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Eng

 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
 *To:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

  

 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being updated 
 because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want to look 
 for 
 alternatives ...

  

 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard 
 http://proteowizard.**sourceforg**e.net/http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this 
 is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.**ne**t/http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/
  
 Also MSToolkit:  
 https://code.google.com/p/**mst**oolkit/https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/

  

 Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out 
 there (which I know there are).

  

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If 
 i'd like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I 
 follow?

 Thanks,

  

 David



 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what 
 versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and 
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:  http://sashimi.svn.*
 *sourceforg**e.net/viewvc/**sashimi/trunk/**jrap/sax2/http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/

  

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Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-20 Thread Jimmy Eng
Hopefully the msconvert developers will chime in on whether this info is
already or can be exported; this certainly won't happen for ReAdW.


On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy. I may need a updated version of ReAdW. Do you know if I can
 let ReAdW or msconvet to output raw file header information, such as method
 used, serial number, processing mode, etc.

 David


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:43:47 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the TPP.

 For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert which
 is now the default converter in the TPP.

 I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get update
 as needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi
 SourceForge project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you want an
 updated binary.

 There is no one who currently owns jrap.  Consider taking ownership of
 it yourself if you think you can update it.


 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to:
 https://code.google.com/p/**mstoolkit/https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/?
 Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw files to
 mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said, mzXML specs
 hasn't changed either.

 BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right person if
 it still is.
 Thanks,

 David


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can
 find in MSToolkit.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as suggested.
 My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap to parse mzXML
 file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by ReAdW from the 
 latest
 Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative mz and
 intensities).
 However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which
 makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search use
 in this case then?
 Thanks,

 David

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:

 And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP),
 then I’d recommend jmzreader:

 http://code.google.com/p/**jmzreader/http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/



 Cheers,

 Eric





 *From:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:spctools...@**
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Eng

 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
 *To:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being
 updated because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want 
 to
 look for alternatives ...



 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
 http://proteowizard.**sourceforge.net/http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this
 is):  
 http://open-ms.sourceforge.**net/http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

 Also MSToolkit:  
 https://code.google.com/p/**mstoolkit/https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/



 Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out
 there (which I know there are).



 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If
 i'd like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I
 follow?

 Thanks,



 David



 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what
 versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:  http://sashimi.svn.
 **sourceforge.net/viewvc/**sashimi/trunk/**jra**p/sax2/http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/



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Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-16 Thread Jimmy Eng
I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can find
in MSToolkit.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as suggested. My
 problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap to parse mzXML
 file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by ReAdW from the latest
 Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative mz and
 intensities).
 However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which makes
 me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search use in
 this case then?
 Thanks,

 David

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:

 And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP), then
 I’d recommend jmzreader:

 http://code.google.com/p/**jmzreader/http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/



 Cheers,

 Eric





 *From:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:spctools...@**
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Eng

 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
 *To:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being updated
 because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want to look for
 alternatives ...



 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
 http://proteowizard.**sourceforge.net/http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this
 is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.**net/ http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

 Also MSToolkit:  
 https://code.google.com/p/**mstoolkit/https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/



 Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out
 there (which I know there are).



 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If i'd
 like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I follow?

 Thanks,



 David



 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what
 versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:  http://sashimi.svn.**
 sourceforge.net/viewvc/**sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/



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Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-16 Thread David Zhao
Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to: 
https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw files to 
mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said, mzXML specs 
hasn't changed either.

BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right person if it 
still is.
Thanks,

David


On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can find 
 in MSToolkit.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as suggested. My 
 problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap to parse mzXML 
 file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by ReAdW from the latest 
 Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative mz and 
 intensities).
 However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which makes 
 me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search use in 
 this case then?
 Thanks,

 David

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:

 And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP), then 
 I’d recommend jmzreader:

 http://code.google.com/p/**jmzreader/http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/

  

 Cheers,

 Eric

  

  
  
 *From:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:spctools...@**
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Eng

 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
 *To:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

  

 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being updated 
 because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want to look for 
 alternatives ...

  

 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard 
 http://proteowizard.**sourceforge.net/http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this 
 is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.**net/http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

 Also MSToolkit:  
 https://code.google.com/p/**mstoolkit/https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/

  

 Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out 
 there (which I know there are).

  

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If 
 i'd like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I 
 follow?

 Thanks,

  

 David



 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what 
 versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and 
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:  http://sashimi.svn.**
 sourceforge.net/viewvc/**sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/

  

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Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-16 Thread Jimmy Eng
Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the TPP.

For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert which is
now the default converter in the TPP.

I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get update as
needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi SourceForge
project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you want an updated
binary.

There is no one who currently owns jrap.  Consider taking ownership of it
yourself if you think you can update it.


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to:
 https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
 Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw files to
 mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said, mzXML specs
 hasn't changed either.

 BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right person if
 it still is.
 Thanks,

 David


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you can
 find in MSToolkit.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as suggested.
 My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on jrap to parse mzXML
 file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by ReAdW from the latest
 Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return negative mz and
 intensities).
 However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine, which
 makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does mzXML2search use
 in this case then?
 Thanks,

 David

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:

 And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP), then
 I’d recommend jmzreader:

 http://code.google.com/p/**jmzre**ader/http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/



 Cheers,

 Eric





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 *To:* spctools...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



 At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being updated
 because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want to look for
 alternatives ...



 Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
 http://proteowizard.**sourceforg**e.net/http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

 Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this
 is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.**ne**t/http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

 Also MSToolkit:  
 https://code.google.com/p/**mst**oolkit/https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/



 Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out
 there (which I know there are).



 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If
 i'd like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I
 follow?

 Thanks,



 David



 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what
 versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:  http://sashimi.svn.**
 sourceforg**e.net/viewvc/**sashimi/trunk/**jrap/sax2/http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/



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Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-15 Thread Jimmy Eng
At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being updated
because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want to look for
alternatives ...

Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/
Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this is):
http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/
Also MSToolkit:  https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/

Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out there
(which I know there are).

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If i'd
 like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I follow?
 Thanks,

 David


 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

 I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what
 versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
 jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:  http://sashimi.svn.**
 sourceforge.net/viewvc/**sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/




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RE: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question

2013-01-15 Thread Eric Deutsch
And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like JRAP), then I’d
recommend jmzreader:

http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/



Cheers,

Eric





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spctools-discuss@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Eng
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
*To:* spctools-discuss@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question



At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being updated
because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if you want to look for
alternatives ...



Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/

Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent this is):
http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/

Also MSToolkit:  https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/



Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries out there
(which I know there are).



On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao weizhao6...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated anymore. If i'd
like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which library should I follow?

Thanks,



David



On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:

I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with what
versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:
http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/



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