David,

You are centroiding "-c" with ReAdW and not with msconvert.  Remove
centroiding in ReAdW or add it to msconvert and then compare results.


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David Zhao <weizhao6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Matt and Jimmy,
>
> I'm processing a Thermo Q-exactive generated raw file, and I see some
> discrenpencies in the mzXML ms/ms peak data and dta generated using
> mzxml2search tool by using msconvert or ReAdW-4.6.0.exe.
> mzXML was generated using standard parameters without any filter.
> ReAdW.exe --mzXML -c
> msconvert.exe --mzXML --32
>
> and I used mzxml2search from TPP to convert mzXML to dta files, please
> find attached dta files for scan 3, they are quite different.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Jimmy Eng <jke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > ReAdW requires the corresponding XRawfile2.dll from Thermo's Xcalibur
> > software; it currently won't work with the one from MSFileReader.  If I
> get
> > time this week, I can see if I can get it working with MSFileReader.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM, David Zhao <weizhao6...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, Jimmy. Another question (sorry :-): does ReAdW expects
> >> Xrawfile2.dll to reside in a particular directory? My PC is 64 bit
> Windows 7
> >> machine, I downloaded Msfilereader from Thermo (I don't have Xcalibur
> >> installed on my machine), and installed the 32 bit version. Msconvert
> works
> >> fine. However, even after I run "regsvr32 C:\Program Files
> >> (x86)\Thermo\MSFileReader\XRawfile2.dll", ReAdW still gives me an error:
> >> Unable to initialize Xcalibur 2.0 interface; falling back to 1.4
> interface
> >> Unable to initialize XCalibur 1.4 interface; check installation
> >> hint: try running the command "regsvr32
> >> C:\<path_to_Xcalibur_dll>\XRawfile2.dll"
> >> unable to interface with Thermo library
> >>
> >> So first of all, can I use the dll from MSFileReader with ReAdW.exe, if
> I
> >> can, how should I register it so it'll be found the program.
> >> Thanks so much!
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jimmy Eng <jke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You can find the ReAdW binary I use here:
> >>> https://proteomicsresource.washington.edu/tools.php
> >>>
> >>> There's no huge changes from previous releases.  Mainly minor fixes to
> >>> support the Q Exactive instrument, remove 0 intensity peaks for file
> size,
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Zhao <weizhao6...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Jimmy. I may need a updated version of ReAdW. Do you know if I
> >>>> can let ReAdW or msconvet to output raw file header information, such
> as
> >>>> method used, serial number, processing mode, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:43:47 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, that is the standalone project which is now also used in the
> TPP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For converting Thermo raw files to mzXML, consider using msconvert
> >>>>> which is now the default converter in the TPP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I happen to still use ReAdW though.  That code actually does get
> update
> >>>>> as needed but it doesn't get built and distributed via the Sashimi
> >>>>> SourceForge project anymore.  Feel free to email me offlist if you
> want an
> >>>>> updated binary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no one who currently "owns" jrap.  Consider taking ownership
> >>>>> of it yourself if you think you can update it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM, David Zhao <weizh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks, Jimmy. Is this the project you are referring to:
> >>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/ ?
> >>>>>> Is ReAdW still the de facto tool to use to convert Thermo's raw
> files
> >>>>>> to mzXML? It hasn't been updated for years, but like you said,
> mzXML specs
> >>>>>> hasn't changed either.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW, is jrap no longer supported? Could you point to the right
> person
> >>>>>> if it still is.
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> David
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I believe MzXML2Search currently uses the mzParser code which you
> can
> >>>>>>> find in MSToolkit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, David Zhao <weizh...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Jimmy and Eric. I'll look into other alternatives as
> >>>>>>>> suggested. My problems that we have a lot of codes still rely on
> jrap to
> >>>>>>>> parse mzXML file, but jrap can't seem to parse mzXML generated by
> ReAdW from
> >>>>>>>> the latest Thermo q exactive instrument ( some scans return
> negative mz and
> >>>>>>>> intensities).
> >>>>>>>> However, mzxml2search from TPP can parse the mzXML just fine,
> which
> >>>>>>>> makes me think the jrap is out of date.  What parser does
> mzXML2search use
> >>>>>>>> in this case then?
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:25:41 PM UTC-8, Eric Deutsch wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And if you’re in the market for a Java implementation (like
> JRAP),
> >>>>>>>>> then I’d recommend jmzreader:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jmzreader/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Eric
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From: spctools...@googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:spctools...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Eng
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: spctools...@googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: JRAP question
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At this point, you can probably not worry about jrap not being
> >>>>>>>>> updated because the mzXML format isn't really in flux.  But if
> you want to
> >>>>>>>>> look for alternatives ...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Quite a few folks here would tell you to look at ProteoWizard
> >>>>>>>>> http://proteowizard.sourceforge.net/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Possibly look into OpenMS (I honestly have no clue how pertinent
> >>>>>>>>> this is):  http://open-ms.sourceforge.net/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also MSToolkit:  https://code.google.com/p/mstoolkit/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Other folks should chime in if there are other parsing libraries
> >>>>>>>>> out there (which I know there are).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM, David Zhao <weizh...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Jimmy! So it sounds like jrap is not being updated
> anymore.
> >>>>>>>>> If i'd like to keep up to date with a mzXML parser, which
> library should I
> >>>>>>>>> follow?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14:17 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Eng wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm not a jrap user nor do I know what file are associated with
> >>>>>>>>> what versions.  But if you are looking for jrap_3.0.jar and
> >>>>>>>>> jakarta-regexp-1.4.jar, you can find  them here:
> >>>>>>>>>
> http://sashimi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/sashimi/trunk/jrap/sax2/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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