Re: [sqlite] SQLite Logo
Blimey - arguments over a feather, However, I want to argue about your "They look nothing alike" and I would say to a non-feather expert, they are very similar. Same orientation (upwards, pointing to the right), white middle, a nick on the right. They do look alike ... very alike. Chris On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:56 PM, R Smith wrote: > > > On 2016/07/05 9:30 PM, Zsbán Ambrus wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM, R.A. Nagy wrote: >> >>> I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to >>> use >>> the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. >>> >> >> SQLite has a logo... >> >> wow. I didn't notice that before. I just checked the homepage >> "http://sqlite.org/";, and it shows a feather in the corner that looks >> basically the same as the Apache logo. Is there a reason why they're >> so similar? I mean, they're both for software, so it can be confusing >> for people who (unlike me) actually pay attention to logos. >> > > They look nothing alike - I mean apart from the fact they both display a > feather. Apache uses a multi-coloured pen feather with visible > downs-feather base (the soft fluffy bit near the bottom of the branching > section) to represent the typical feathers that might adorn the head-band > of an Apache Indian chief. No doubt the connotation was made to symbolise > its relative light-ness in a World of heavy Web servers. > > SQLite shows an outer-wing section feather of a smaller bird (no downs, > shorter with wider blade) in more or less the same orientation as the > Apache feather, but with no colours (just white on blue background) to > symbolise very specifically the lightness of the product (I imagine). > > They both contain upright feathers, but that's where the similarity ends, > for if it was the intent of the SQLite creators to mimic the Apache logo, > they did a very poor job of it! > > > It's like saying the Miami Dolphins has the same Logo as MySQL... :) > > > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite Logo
The current SQLite logo is several years old. The Apache Foundation's vertical feather logo is very new (less than a year, IIRC). Perviously the ASF logo was a horizontal feather. So the correct question is, "Why is the Apache logo basically the same as the SQLite logo?" -j On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Zsbán Ambrus wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM, R.A. Nagy wrote: > > I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to > use > > the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. > > > SQLite has a logo... > > wow. I didn't notice that before. I just checked the homepage > "http://sqlite.org/";, and it shows a feather in the corner that looks > basically the same as the Apache logo. Is there a reason why they're > so similar? I mean, they're both for software, so it can be confusing > for people who (unlike me) actually pay attention to logos. > > Ambrus > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite Logo
On 2016/07/05 9:30 PM, Zsbán Ambrus wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM, R.A. Nagy wrote: I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to use the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. SQLite has a logo... wow. I didn't notice that before. I just checked the homepage "http://sqlite.org/";, and it shows a feather in the corner that looks basically the same as the Apache logo. Is there a reason why they're so similar? I mean, they're both for software, so it can be confusing for people who (unlike me) actually pay attention to logos. They look nothing alike - I mean apart from the fact they both display a feather. Apache uses a multi-coloured pen feather with visible downs-feather base (the soft fluffy bit near the bottom of the branching section) to represent the typical feathers that might adorn the head-band of an Apache Indian chief. No doubt the connotation was made to symbolise its relative light-ness in a World of heavy Web servers. SQLite shows an outer-wing section feather of a smaller bird (no downs, shorter with wider blade) in more or less the same orientation as the Apache feather, but with no colours (just white on blue background) to symbolise very specifically the lightness of the product (I imagine). They both contain upright feathers, but that's where the similarity ends, for if it was the intent of the SQLite creators to mimic the Apache logo, they did a very poor job of it! It's like saying the Miami Dolphins has the same Logo as MySQL... :) ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite Logo
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM, R.A. Nagy wrote: > I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to use > the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. SQLite has a logo... wow. I didn't notice that before. I just checked the homepage "http://sqlite.org/";, and it shows a feather in the corner that looks basically the same as the Apache logo. Is there a reason why they're so similar? I mean, they're both for software, so it can be confusing for people who (unlike me) actually pay attention to logos. Ambrus ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite Logo
Excellent. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > The use of the SQLite trademarks is allowed for cases where you want > to convey that you are using SQLite are talking about SQLite. But it > must be clear to readers that your content is not endorsed by SQLite. > > An example: there was a product called (something like) "SQLite > Database Viewer". Because of the way SQLite appeared in that names, > customers were confused and thought that the application was an > official product of the SQLite development team. We asked the > developers to change the name to "Database Viewer for SQLite". This > made it clear to end customers that the application was a third-party > tool. After that name change, end users stopped coming to us for > support, and started contacting the application developers instead, as > they should. > > The same standard must be applied to your use of the SQLite trademark. > You are welcomed to use the SQLite trademark on your literature as > long as your customers clearly understand that you are just a great > teacher who happens to be instructing on SQLite, and that your are not > an official spokesman or representative for the SQLite project. > >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM, R.A. Nagy wrote: >> I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to use >> the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. >> >> Can do? >> ___ >> sqlite-users mailing list >> sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org >> http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > > > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite Logo
The use of the SQLite trademarks is allowed for cases where you want to convey that you are using SQLite are talking about SQLite. But it must be clear to readers that your content is not endorsed by SQLite. An example: there was a product called (something like) "SQLite Database Viewer". Because of the way SQLite appeared in that names, customers were confused and thought that the application was an official product of the SQLite development team. We asked the developers to change the name to "Database Viewer for SQLite". This made it clear to end customers that the application was a third-party tool. After that name change, end users stopped coming to us for support, and started contacting the application developers instead, as they should. The same standard must be applied to your use of the SQLite trademark. You are welcomed to use the SQLite trademark on your literature as long as your customers clearly understand that you are just a great teacher who happens to be instructing on SQLite, and that your are not an official spokesman or representative for the SQLite project. On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:03 PM, R.A. Nagy wrote: > I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to use > the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. > > Can do? > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
[sqlite] SQLite Logo
I am putting together a commercial training for SQLite. I would like to use the SQLite logo - as seen on the website - on the cover of the materials. Can do? ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite logo usage
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar < brunokim...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for your answer. > > Is it explicit somewhere in the site, or should it be? I guessed to be the > case, but there's no notice as we see on NASA images, for example. > There is no notice on the website. But you are right, there should be. I'll try to add a notice for the next release, coming up in a few days. > > Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar > Eng. de Computação 2008 - EESC - USP > brunokim...@gmail.com > Skype: bkim.cesar > > 2012/12/10 Richard Hipp > > > > > You are welcomed to use a copy of the logo from the website, scaled to > > whatever size you need but otherwise unaltered, and to use the SQLite > name > > as long as you do not imply that your product or service is officially > > endorsed by the SQLite developers. > > > > > > -- > > D. Richard Hipp > > d...@sqlite.org > > ___ > > sqlite-users mailing list > > sqlite-users@sqlite.org > > http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > > > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@sqlite.org > http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite logo usage
Thanks for your answer. Is it explicit somewhere in the site, or should it be? I guessed to be the case, but there's no notice as we see on NASA images, for example. Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar Eng. de Computação 2008 - EESC - USP brunokim...@gmail.com Skype: bkim.cesar 2012/12/10 Richard Hipp > > You are welcomed to use a copy of the logo from the website, scaled to > whatever size you need but otherwise unaltered, and to use the SQLite name > as long as you do not imply that your product or service is officially > endorsed by the SQLite developers. > > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@sqlite.org > http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite logo usage
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Simon Slavin wrote: > > On 10 Dec 2012, at 2:38pm, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > The "SQLite" name and the new SQLite Logo are registered trademarks. > > Let's ask it a different way. If I write something and want to list > SQLite as one of the technologies in it, how would you like me to list > SQLite ? Is there any small image to go with it which will encourage brand > recognition ? > You are welcomed to use a copy of the logo from the website, scaled to whatever size you need but otherwise unaltered, and to use the SQLite name as long as you do not imply that your product or service is officially endorsed by the SQLite developers. > > Simon. > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@sqlite.org > http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite logo usage
On 10 Dec 2012 at 14:40, Simon Slavin wrote: > On 10 Dec 2012, at 2:38pm, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> The "SQLite" name and the new SQLite Logo are registered trademarks. > > Let's ask it a different way. If I write something and want to list SQLite as > one of the technologies in it, how would you like me to list SQLite ? Is > there any small image to go with it which will encourage brand recognition ? And in my case I want to document my app and list SQLite in an appendix. -- Cheers -- Tim ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite logo usage
On 10 Dec 2012, at 2:38pm, Richard Hipp wrote: > The "SQLite" name and the new SQLite Logo are registered trademarks. Let's ask it a different way. If I write something and want to list SQLite as one of the technologies in it, how would you like me to list SQLite ? Is there any small image to go with it which will encourage brand recognition ? Simon. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
Re: [sqlite] SQLite logo usage
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar < brunokim...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello. > > Is there a policy on how to use the SQLite logo? Is it copyrighted or in > public domain? I found it as an SVG in a non-official site, and was > wondering if it is free to edit and modify. > The "SQLite" name and the new SQLite Logo are registered trademarks. > > I would like to do a little homage to SQLite, and have inserted the > blessing within the blue box as in the attached image. I wonder if it is ok > to publish it. > > Thanks for your attention, > > Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar > Eng. de Computação 2008 - EESC - USP > brunokim...@gmail.com > Skype: bkim.cesar > > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@sqlite.org > http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
[sqlite] SQLite logo usage
Hello. Is there a policy on how to use the SQLite logo? Is it copyrighted or in public domain? I found it as an SVG in a non-official site, and was wondering if it is free to edit and modify. I would like to do a little homage to SQLite, and have inserted the blessing within the blue box as in the attached image. I wonder if it is ok to publish it. Thanks for your attention, Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar Eng. de Computação 2008 - EESC - USP brunokim...@gmail.com Skype: bkim.cesar ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
