Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-07 Thread Robert Simpson
- Original Message - 
From: "Brandon, Nicholas (UK)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Just had a quick look and noticed a peculiarity. SQLite seems to do
pretty well across the board except in the graph for "INSERT 1 Row
Test (implicit transaction)". It seemly does well except when using
the SD card. Then I noticed your labelling is not consistent
across all the pictures. Is that a mistake or is it what you had
expected?

For me it would be easier for my brain to compare if you had them in
the same label order >across the pictures (i.e. SQLite (M), SQLMobile
(M), SQLite (C) ...)


I had originally arranged them by storage medium best to worst, but I agree 
it was somewhat confusing to have the order changed midway through, so I 
changed it back.


The one thing that really impressed me was Join Test #2, which joined 3 
tables and returned a sum on a column in the 3rd table.  The *only* database 
that was able to even get near SQLite was MS Sql Server, which actually beat 
SQLite soundly -- returning a full 500ms sooner than SQLite did.  All the 
other database engines I tested completely tanked that test.


Robert




Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-07 Thread Robert Simpson
- Original Message - 
From: "Denis Sbragion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Hello Robert,

At 06.36 06/02/2006, you wrote:
...

Also coming up next week are comparisons vs. Sql Server Mobile, which is
where SQLite is really racking up some wins recently.


interesting but, be careful! Last time I checked benchmarking was 
explicitely forbidden by the SQL Server end user license. Probably the 
same apply to SQL Server Mobile.
BTW we're using sqlite under Windows CE since at least 3 years, 
and we have no intention at all to get back from there. I've yet to find a 
real situation where sqlite is the bottleneck. This is expecially true for 
our single user/single thread/no locking typical application. I will never 
thank enough DRH and the other sqlite developers and contributors for 
their invaluable work.


I had originally blanked out the Sql Mobile scores, but then I found other 
folks on the net posting benchmarks and even found an MS employee's blog 
referencing some scores someone posted (and even posting a link).  After 
that I decided what the hell.


Robert




RE: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-07 Thread Brandon, Nicholas (UK)



>It did pretty well against Sql Server Mobile as well.  I just posted those
>benchmarks here:
>http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/forums/623/ShowPost.aspx

Just had a quick look and noticed a peculiarity. SQLite seems to do pretty well 
across the board except in the graph for "INSERT 1 Row Test (implicit 
transaction)". It seemly does well except when using the SD card. Then I 
noticed your labelling is not consistent across all the pictures. Is that a 
mistake or is it what you had expected?

For me it would be easier for my brain to compare if you had them in the same 
label order across the pictures (i.e. SQLite (M), SQLMobile (M), SQLite (C) ...)

Regards
Nick



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Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-07 Thread Denis Sbragion

Hello Robert,

At 06.36 06/02/2006, you wrote:
...

Also coming up next week are comparisons vs. Sql Server Mobile, which is
where SQLite is really racking up some wins recently.


interesting but, be careful! Last time I checked benchmarking was 
explicitely forbidden by the SQL Server end user license. Probably the same 
apply to SQL Server Mobile.
BTW we're using sqlite under Windows CE since at least 3 years, 
and we have no intention at all to get back from there. I've yet to find a 
real situation where sqlite is the bottleneck. This is expecially true for 
our single user/single thread/no locking typical application. I will never 
thank enough DRH and the other sqlite developers and contributors for their 
invaluable work.


Bye,
--
Denis Sbragion
InfoTecna
Tel: +39 0362 805396, Fax: +39 0362 805404
URL: http://www.infotecna.it



Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-06 Thread Robert Simpson
- Original Message - 
From: "Jay Sprenkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Just out of curiosity, another poster here was interested in switching to
>mysql.
>Did you test mysql?

No ... do they have an embedded version I can download, or is it strictly 
a

standalone engine?



http://www.mysql.com/products/embedded/

They don't make it easy to find the download link though...=0


Case in point ... I was unable to find any download link on their site!

Robert




Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-06 Thread Jay Sprenkle
> >Just out of curiosity, another poster here was interested in switching to
> >mysql.
> >Did you test mysql?
>
> No ... do they have an embedded version I can download, or is it strictly a
> standalone engine?

http://www.mysql.com/products/embedded/

They don't make it easy to find the download link though...


Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-06 Thread Robert Simpson
- Original Message - 
From: "Jay Sprenkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Just out of curiosity, another poster here was interested in switching to 
mysql.

Did you test mysql?


No ... do they have an embedded version I can download, or is it strictly a 
standalone engine?


Robert




Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-06 Thread Jay Sprenkle
> >Congrats to DRH! :)=0
>
> It did pretty well against Sql Server Mobile as well.  I just posted those
> benchmarks here:
> http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/forums/623/ShowPost.aspx

Just out of curiosity, another poster here was interested in switching to mysql.
Did you test mysql?


Re: [sqlite] New benchmark comparisons

2006-02-06 Thread Jay Sprenkle
On 2/5/06, Robert Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't completed all the tests I want to run, but it makes for an
> interesting read:
>
> http://sqlite.phxsoftware.com/forums/622/ShowPost.aspx
>
> I compared SQLite to Jet (Access), VistaDB and Firebird.  I will probably
> add PostgreSQL to the list as well, but as far as I know they don't have an
> ADO.NET provider -- so I'll have to use OLEDB.
>
> Also coming up next week are comparisons vs. Sql Server Mobile, which is
> where SQLite is really racking up some wins recently.

Wow. It did really well.

Congrats to DRH! :)