Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
mherger wrote:
> > So, pretty clear, the web ui updates the lastActivityTime on the
> > displayed player and thereby prevents sleep.
>
> What web UI are you using? Can you figure out (using the browser's dev
> tools) what requests the web UI is sending?
I use classic and material but this was classic.
This is what I got by copying the request, and then the response - it
looks like the JSONRPC one does update the time:
Code:
http://192.168.1.100:9000/jsonrpc.js
POST /jsonrpc.js HTTP/1.1
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 69
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=UTF-8
Cookie: Squeezebox-expandPlayerControl=true; Squeezebox-expanded-MY_MUSIC=1;
Squeezebox-expanded-FAVORITES=0; Squeezebox-expanded-PLUGINS=0;
Squeezebox-expanded-PLUGIN_MY_APPS_MODULE_NAME=0; Squeezebox-expanded-RADIO=1;
Squeezebox-enableHiDPI=1.25; Squeezebox-expanded-activePlugins=1;
Squeezebox-expanded-inactivePlugins=1; Squeezebox-expanded-otherPlugins0=1;
Squeezebox-playersettings=null;
Squeezebox-advancedsettings=settings/server/debugging.html%3F;
Squeezebox-albumView=; Squeezebox-player=00%3A04%3A20%3A12%3A45%3A0c
X-Requested-With: XMLHttpRequest
{"params":["",["serverstatus","0","999"]],"method":"slim.request","id":1,"result":{"other
player count":0,"httpport":"9000","info total albums":3115,"player
count":2,"ip":"192.168.1.100","version":"8.3.1","players_loop":[{"seq_no":0,"playerid":"00:04:20:12:45:0c","displaytype":"graphic-320x32","connected":1,"ip":"192.168.1.62:38762","model":"squeezebox3","name":"Kitchen","firmware":137,"uuid":null,"isplayer":1,"canpoweroff":1,"isplaying":0,"playerindex":"0","power":0,"modelname":"Squeezebox
Classic"},{"seq_no":"11","playerid":"00:04:20:26:6c:d2","displaytype":"none","connected":1,"ip":"192.168.1.133:59116","model":"baby","name":"Squeezebox
Radio","firmware":"8.0.1-r16907","uuid":"32f41c9fa9c2ca28e57c1e44ecc1","isplayer":1,"canpoweroff":1,"isplaying":1,"playerindex":1,"power":1,"modelname":"Squeezebox
Radio"}],"uuid":"864f0003-a2dd-44cd-b2d9-806eb0a4a09d","sn player
count":0,"info total artists":2266,"info total
songs":24095,"lastscan":"1670733289","info total genres":13
5,"info total duration":8005338.77200013,"mac":"30:85:a9:9e:be:96"}}
I also looked at what material did - it seems to be using cometd. I
think that one DOESN'T update the lastActivityTime:
Code:
http://192.168.1.100:9000/cometd/connect
POST /cometd/connect HTTP/1.1
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 93
Content-Type: application/json;charset=UTF-8
Cookie: Squeezebox-expandPlayerControl=true; Squeezebox-expanded-MY_MUSIC=1;
Squeezebox-expanded-FAVORITES=0; Squeezebox-expanded-PLUGINS=0;
Squeezebox-expanded-PLUGIN_MY_APPS_MODULE_NAME=0; Squeezebox-expanded-RADIO=1;
Squeezebox-enableHiDPI=1.25; Squeezebox-expanded-activePlugins=1;
Squeezebox-expanded-inactivePlugins=1; Squeezebox-expanded-otherPlugins0=1;
Squeezebox-playersettings=null;
Squeezebox-advancedsettings=settings/server/debugging.html%3F;
Squeezebox-albumView=; Squeezebox-player=00%3A04%3A20%3A12%3A45%3A0c
[{"timestamp":"Sun, 11 Dec 2022 14:15:02
GMT","clientId":"649d0956","channel":"/meta/connect","id":"25","advice":{"interval":0},"successful":true},{"data":{"seq_no":0,"mixer
volume":100,"player_name":"Kitchen","playlist_tracks":1,"player_connected":1,"time":0,"mode":"stop","playlist_timestamp":1670708541.75329,"rate":1,"can_seek":1,"power":0,"playlist
mode":"off","playlist
repeat":0,"duration":398.573,"playlist_cur_index":"0","signalstrength":0,"digital_volume_control":1,"playlist
shuffle":0,"player_ip":"192.168.1.62:38762"},"id":"7","channel":"/649d0956/slim/playerstatus/00:04:20:12:45:0c","ext":{"priority":""}}]
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
mherger wrote: > A web UI polling for player state would > probably happen to keep it "active". OK, looks like that might be what's happening. I put the logging back into the PreventSystemStandby plugin and shut down the web ui. lastActivityTime not increasing. Opened up the web ui (classic) and the first of my two players is now having its lastActivityTime updated quite regularly - more than once a minute. This is the player being displayed in the web ui. Switch the web ui to the other player and that one gets updated. So, pretty clear, the web ui updates the lastActivityTime on the displayed player and thereby prevents sleep. Any chance of getting that changed? It doesn't seem to be correct behaviour to me. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
mherger wrote: > > The Windows server itself sometimes has a browser running which could > be > > using the web ui, so if that was the issue then it could wake up and > > then keep itself awake. But can the web ui keep the server awake? > I'm > > Yes. See the links I provided. A web UI polling for player state would > probably happen to keep it "active". I haven't tested that that is the case. But if it is, it seems to me to qualify as a bug. The PreventSystemStandby plugin docs strongly suggest that it is intended to stop standby when players are playing, not if they are all off. Perhaps the code could be changed so that the time is only updated if the player is actually active or changed in some way by the request. A simple poll shouldn't imply "active" in my opinion. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
Well, I do use the web ui and Squeezelite-X. When the logging was being done, the computer with Squeezelite-X was off, but this one (the one for posting to the forums :-)) was on and I probably had a tab with the web UI open on it. Yes, I certainly did because I was checking the log. The Windows server itself sometimes has a browser running which could be using the web ui, so if that was the issue then it could wake up and then keep itself awake. But can the web ui keep the server awake? I'm not 100% sure that matches the symptoms I'm seeing but it could do, I suppose. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
mherger wrote: > > > As you're able to modify code you could add a log statement to the > callers of lastActivityTime($timestamp). It's only called in a few > places: > Sorry, I could modify the Plugin code because it's actually in the install but the rest is compiled - I'm not able to compile the server from source at present. Could you find the logging that would reveal those calls? For example I can switch on plugin.cli logging to detect if it's that (and that one doesn't seem to be the issue). bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
mherger wrote: > > You should try to understand what is causing the lastActivityTime to be > > true. That's why I was asking about control apps or the like: any action > > some client does for that player would bump it's lastActivityTime > value. > ? So it's less urgent now that I have a workaround. But I'm willing to try to help debug this. What's the next step to try to trace the problem? Something is bunping the value but I can't see anything happening in the interface that might be doing it. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
So I wrote a quick Python program to find all the long paths and manually renamed them. Now everything scans. I actually quite like to use Windows these days - I find it stable and mostly pretty easy to use and quite configurable. But it's a bit annoying that it officially supports long paths but then various programs - even Explorer - don't function entirely properly with them. Maybe it's time to consider a platform switch. d6jg wrote: > From your example it looks like you are trying to use folder names as > some kind of database structure rather than tags. > I know Classical is much more difficult than other music but why not > simplify the folder structure in favour of more tagging? > If your tags are correct then LMS really only needs albums in individual > folders. > > Edit. This assumes that you are only using LMS to play music ie > database. If you are also using something that only supports basic > folder structures then Im wrong I use the Artist/Album tags for Composer and Work. But I like to also keep information about the physical CD/LP which I keep in the folder structure (as well as some less standard tags). So I keep each CD (or in this case, box set) in its own folder. This makes things easier when, for example, ripping or copying to other devices. But the names of the folders and even the files aren't that important - I can certainly shorten them. I just used a simple convention (taking the names from the tags via foobar2k) as a quick way of setting the folders and files up which led to the long names and paths. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
bpa wrote: > What version of Windows ? > > IIRC 256 used to be the limit for a command prompt lines so if a file > path had many levels of directory it caused problems. It's Windows 10 (pretty much up to date). Reading up on it, there is a historical limitation to 260 chars but you can set a switch (which is set on my system) to remove it. But perhaps the API functions that SqueezeSvr is using are still restricted. Or worse some of them might be and others not. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/maximum-file-path-limitation?tabs=registry Might have to try to reduce the long paths. Though I don't know which ones are too long. :-( bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
mherger wrote: > >Are they just above 256, or really much longer? After quickly skimming > > the scanner's code I wouldn't have expected the path length to be a > problem before 1024 characters. Maybe double byte characters etc. add > some to yours. But would you reach 1k? I looked through a selection and the cut-off does seem to be at 256 or very close to it. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
bpa wrote: > If this is Windows - then enabling 8.3 names used to solve some weird > issues but this may be out of date as I haven't dealt with Windows for a > long time. I enabled 8.3 on the volume and added 8.3 names to one folder: the one that has that particular file in. Rescan hasn't fixed the problem and it still can't be seen when I browse the folder (via the "Music Folder" browse option). I'm not particularly keen to copy my entire music tree to get 8.3 names on all of them. I could, but after this experiment it seems like it's unlikely to work. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
bpa wrote: > If this is Windows - then enabling 8.3 names used to solve some weird > issues but this may be out of date as I haven't dealt with Windows for a > long time. Yeah I'm just trying that but it's not so easy since all the files need to be re-copied I think to get an 8.3 name. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
No - this is one of them and its 275 I think. Configured as utf-8 so that should be roughly how long it is in bytes: Code: D:\AudioMaster\Classical New\Mozart\Piano Concertos\Alfred Brendel, The Academy Of St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Sir Neville Marriner, Ingrid Haebler, Ton Koopman\2.01. Harpsichord Concerto In D Major, K 107 No.1 (after J.C.Bach, Sonata, op.5 no.2) (Ton Koopman) - 1. Allegro.mp3 I wonder if it is something to do with finding the file in the Windows API. There was a similar problem with asian characters so it was not the name itself that was the problem but that the name wasn't being carried properly between scan and read. Or something like that. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanner ignoring files with long paths
Just noticed something wrong in my music library - a bunch of files with really long paths (above 256) are being skipped by the scanner and also not shown if I browse the folder. I don't have 8.3 names enabled on the file system so that might be what's causing it ... Using 8.3.1. Not sure how long this has been going on but potentially for some time - months - but not years. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117188 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
During the logging period there were only two players on the network. Both were off and neither were synced. No music was playing anywhere. One's an SB3 and the other a Radio. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
Both players are "off" in the sense of showing the clock - not paused or stopped but also not electrically off. I have other players which are completely switched off electrically and they don't appear: presumably not even in the clients list. I'm going to temporarily comment out the lastActivityTime check which means that PreventServerStandby will fail to detect some short periods of play. But that should be OK as a temporary workaround. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
OK Last post before bedtime, I promise. So I worked out it must be the
times. So I rewrote the debug like this just to be 100% sure:
Code:
my $a = $client->isUpgrading();
my $b = $client->isPlaying();
my $c = Time::HiRes::time() - $client->lastActivityTime;
my $d = $a || $b || ($c <= INTERVAL);
# if ( $client->isUpgrading() || $client->isPlaying() ||
(Time::HiRes::time() - $client->lastActivityTime <= INTERVAL) ) {
if ( $d && 1) {
main::DEBUGLOG && $log->is_debug && $log->debug("Player
" . $client->name() . " is busy...");
main::DEBUGLOG && $log->is_debug && $log->debug("Player
upgrading " . $a . " playing " . $b . " time " . $c . " result " . $d);
return 1;
}
And this is the result
Code:
[22-12-07 23:31:40.0114] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(164) Player Kitchen is busy...
[22-12-07 23:31:40.0119] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(165) Player upgrading 0 playing time 54.7731530666351 result 1
[22-12-07 23:31:40.0122]
Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle
counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period.
[22-12-07 23:31:40.0124]
Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing
System Standby...
[22-12-07 23:32:40.0111] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(164) Player Squeezebox Radio is busy...
[22-12-07 23:32:40.0115] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(165) Player upgrading 0 playing time 8.22161316871643 result 1
[22-12-07 23:32:40.0117]
Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle
counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period.
[22-12-07 23:32:40.0120]
Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing
System Standby...
[22-12-07 23:33:40.0035] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(164) Player Kitchen is busy...
[22-12-07 23:33:40.0038] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(165) Player upgrading 0 playing time 8.58207488059998 result 1
So clearly the lastActivityTime keeps being updated even though the
players are off. That is what is causing the staying awake, though I
have no idea why that is happening.
Does that help find out what's going on?
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
So not feeling sleepy - I installed 8.2.1 and the problem persists. So,
I wondered if I could home in on the right part of the code in
PreventStandby\Plugin.pm
The relevant bit of code seems to be
Code:
if ( $client->isUpgrading() || $client->isPlaying() ||
(Time::HiRes::time() - $client->lastActivityTime <= INTERVAL) ) {
main::DEBUGLOG && $log->is_debug && $log->debug("Player
" . $client->name() . " is busy...");
main::DEBUGLOG && $log->is_debug && $log->debug("Player
upgrading " . $client->isUpgrading() . " playing " . $client->isPlaying() . "
end");
That second debug statement was added by me. This is what I am now
seeing in the log:
Code:
[22-12-07 23:14:01.0108] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(159) Player Kitchen is busy...
[22-12-07 23:14:01.0112] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy
(160) Player upgrading 0 playing end
Is that right? I was expecting to see a zero between "playing" and
"end" whereas actually there seems to be an empty string.
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
So I left the logging on and came back later this evening - this is the last section (which is typical of all the rest): Code: [22-12-07 22:07:35.0101] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Squeezebox Radio is busy... [22-12-07 22:07:35.0104] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:07:35.0107] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:08:35.0139] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (116) Incrementing idle counter. 2 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:08:35.0142] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:09:35.0110] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (116) Incrementing idle counter. 1 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:09:35.0113] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:10:35.0083] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (131) Players have been idle for 3 minutes. Allowing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:11:35.0021] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Kitchen is busy... [22-12-07 22:11:35.0025] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:11:35.0027] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:12:35.0007] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Kitchen is busy... [22-12-07 22:12:35.0011] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:12:35.0014] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:13:35.0136] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (116) Incrementing idle counter. 2 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:13:35.0139] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:14:35.0111] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Kitchen is busy... [22-12-07 22:14:35.0114] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:14:35.0117] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 22:15:35.0062] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (116) Incrementing idle counter. 2 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 22:15:35.0065] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... What seems to be happening is that I am regularly seeing the _playersBusy message even though both players are actually off. So it's nothing to do with SqueezePlay - that's just a coincidence that I got the Mac about the same time - sorry about the red herring. I guess I could go back to an earlier version of the server software to try to find out when this started but I won't have time to try lots of versions at the minute - maybe at the weekend. Anything else I can look at or try? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
OK no sorry my amateur diagnosis attempts were way off base. I switched off the Mac, turned on logging and rebooted the server. It won't sleep. This is what's in the log: Code: [22-12-07 19:12:34.6733] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1325) Warning: [19:12:34.6731] Constant subroutine Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::EBADF redefined at /Exporter/Lite.pm line 56. [22-12-07 19:12:35.4693] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::initPlugin (81) System standby now allowed after 3 minutes of player idle time. [22-12-07 19:12:35.4698] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (116) Incrementing idle counter. 2 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 19:12:35.4700] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 19:13:35.0109] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Kitchen is busy... [22-12-07 19:13:35.0111] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 19:13:35.0112] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 19:14:35.0093] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Kitchen is busy... [22-12-07 19:14:35.0096] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 19:14:35.0098] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-12-07 19:15:35.0055] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Kitchen is busy... [22-12-07 19:15:35.0059] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.3 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-12-07 19:15:35.0062] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... Which is weird because the Kitchen player is an SB3 and I can see it is off. So I turned KItchen off and on again and got nothing else in the log. So I don't know what's going on. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
mherger wrote: > What 3rd party plugins are you using? I could imagine that eg. Spotty in > > Connect mode could keep the machine awake, too. I have BBC Sounds, material, a few others but nothing that has changed recently. Not spotty. It does seem to be related to the SqueezePlay client - the problem seems to start once I start it up. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS keeping Windows server awake
Sorry, this is one of those perennial and hard to debug issues. Still, any help would be appreciated: I run LMS on a Windows 10 server set to sleep when no player is playing - Prevent System Standby is installed with 3 minute idle time but set to sleep even if players are on but not playing. This has worked fine for years but the server is now staying awake. I think this started when I started using a SqueezePlay client on a new Mac. To test I did the following: The Mac was asleep (and the SqueezePlay client was off) I installed the latest 8.3.1 Checked on the server - no power requests Woke the Mac from sleep - immediately a power request appeared on the server. I tried switching on the SqueezePlay client and playing music and then stopping and even quitting the SqueezePlay client entirely. But the power request just stays there and the server won't sleep. So it seems like a buggy interaction between SqueezePlay and LMS or at least the Prevent System Standby plugin. Anyone any ideas of the problem? Is there a different client on Mac? Any other possible workaround? Thanks! bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117181 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
RobbH wrote: > So are you saying that this setting did change that as you wanted? Yes. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
RobbH wrote: > I also find that artists are still displayed when browsing Albums or > Random Albums in the default skin, even when the "Show Artist with > Albums" option is disabled. Sorry - I wasn't clear - I was referring to the interface on my SB3 hardware player. That was the setting I needed. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
RobbH wrote: > In the default interface, if you go to the Settings page, under the > Interface tab, you should see an option to show artists with albums. Is > it enabled? > That's the one! Thank you very much. Just couldn't work out where it was. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Titles when browsing Random Albums
Pretty sure this is a stupid question but here goes ... I just re-installed LMS from scratch and set all my options back to how I like it. But then I noticed that when I browse Random Albums, I am seeing only the Album Title. I'm sure I used to see Artist as well and I much prefer that. But I can't find the setting for it. Or maybe I'm just confused ... Incidentally I really love the browse Random Albums function - I'm sure it didn't used to be available. Where did it come from? Is it just a new cool thing that Michael has added or is it in a plugin or something? Whoever did it - thank you! bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115346 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
Ahh. So I guess it might be time to retire it entirely? I've already stopped it from starting on my installation. The only thing I thought I needed it for was configuring the server whether or not to start on boot as a service. Making the command line for that more obvious (perhaps at the end of the install process? Or a link to documentation in the web ui?) would solve that. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
Are there any step-by-step instructions for setting up a development environment to build the program? I'm not confident but I do have some coding experience and I can easily reproduce the problem so I might be able to help. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
mherger wrote: > If you started the panel from the command line, would you get to see any > > error? Or in the event log? Start from the command line: immediately returns, then splash screen, then nothing. Nothing in the event log. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
So I think I may have tracked down the reason it crashes for me (and not for others). The problem seems to be that I have my code page set to UTF-8 following this procedure > Change Windows to the UTF-8 locale. To do this go to the Control Panel > > "Change date, time or number formats" > Administrative tab and then the > "Change system locale ..." button. In there you check the "Beta: Use > Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" box and press OK. Revert that setting and it runs fine. When the OS is set to UTF-8 then the Control Panel gets as far as the splash screen but then silently crashes. Since it turns out I don't need the Control Panel then I'll keep my Windows set to UTF-8 but hopefully this report will help others or even lead to a fix. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
slartibartfast wrote: > I seem to remember having to run control panel as administrator although > not doing so normally produces an error. > No, that doesn't seem to be the problem - it doesn't work then either. It just shows the splash and then disappears. Incidentally it's not as urgent as I thought: the program has been installed as a service so presumably it is already starting on boot and I can do all the rest of the config through the web interface, so I've got it working for now. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
I'm still seeing this problem with Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1627922070 @ Tue Aug 3 11:28:42 WEDT 2021 I re-installed the whole server (on Windows 10 Pro 20H2) from scratch and the Control Panel won't start as described above. This is now causing a specific problem: I need to set the server to become a service and start on boot. But I need the Control Panel to do that and I can't get it to start. Can anyone help please!! bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Control Panel for LMS is not starting up after upgrade to 8.0.1, when LMS is running
chirhonix wrote: > Hi, > maybe the program is just minimiized. After selecting the icon type > + then there should be a menu to maximize the program. > Another possibility would be that the program is located outside the > vivible desktop. With the above combination then you cold move the > program windown with the arrow keys. No, I have the same issue and the Control Panel is definitely not running - you can see the program start and then die in the Task Manager. Double click on squeezeboxcp.exe - the splash appears and then shortly after vanishes and the program disappears from task manager. Can't see any logging anywhere, not even Windows Event Viewer. Not sure when the problem started but fairly recently. Version: Logitech Media Server Version: 8.1.2 - 1617991245 @ Fri Apr 9 20:47:54 WEDT 2021 Windows 10 20H2 fully up to date. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113424 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS not seeing files with non-Latin characters in the filename (Windows)
reinholdk wrote: > I have exactly the same LMS server info and I'm at Win10 v1903, but the > 8dot3name info looks interesting: it's enabled for my disk! OK - so that was the clue I needed. This thread describes what seems to be the same problem as I have: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106886-All-music-files-with-Chinese-and-Japanese-names-missing-after-scan/page2 This lists two possible workarounds: The first and probably most sensible is to enable "8dot3name" for the volume. You can do that using the "fsutil" command and it probably makes sense for most people. I haven't tried it but that thread strongly suggests that will work. More interesting to me, however, was the option to set the Windows locale to UTF-8. This is an experimental feature in Windows 10 since 1803 and although it was originally quite buggy, it seems to be getting better. So I'm giving that a try. For anyone else who wants to go down this route, these are the steps: - *Change your Logitech Media Server service to start with the UTF-8 charset*. To do this, start "regedit" and navigate to this key Code: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\squeezesvc\IMAGEPATH and append " --charset=utf8" to the value. You need a space before the hyphens, of course. - *Change Windows to the UTF-8 locale*. To do this go to the Control Panel > "Change date, time or number formats" > Administrative tab and then the "Change system locale ..." button. In there you check the "Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" box and press OK. - *Cross your fingers and reboot*. Bear in mind that this does carry some risk of interfering with the operation of other older programs you might be running. Hope this helps someone! bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111436 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS not seeing files with non-Latin characters in the filename (Windows)
So this is all the relevant config I could think of: Squeeze server info: Code: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1575296326 @ Mon Dec 2 15:38:15 WEST 2019 Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: 8664 Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Audio::Scan: 0.95 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.024 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) Operating System: Code: Windows 10 Pro Version 1909 OS build 18353.535 Regional: United Kingdom Display Language: English (United Kingdom) (but US also installed) Disk - NTFS with 8dot3name support disabled: Code: PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> fsutil fsinfo volumeinfo d: Max Component Length : 255 File System Name : NTFS Not Thinly-Provisioned Supports Case-sensitive filenames Preserves Case of filenames Supports Unicode in filenames PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> fsutil 8dot3name query D: The volume state is: 1 (8dot3 name creation is disabled). The registry state is: 2 (Per volume setting - the default). Based on the above settings, 8dot3 name creation is disabled on D: PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Any other config to check? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111436 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS not seeing files with non-Latin characters in the filename (Windows)
reinholdk wrote: > for a test, you could start SqueezeSvr.exe manually with argument > --charset=utf8 > That sounded like the right thing and I did it: the server information page now says Code: Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - utf8 so I think that's right (it used to be cp1252) but the file is still not working - it still won't scan. Since it works for you we must be close: there must be some config difference. Any idea what it might be? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111436 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS not seeing files with non-Latin characters in the filename (Windows)
Just to add some more info in case it's useful: If I turn on logging during the scan I get this: Code: [20-01-04 13:32:09.3480] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (149) Found D:\AudioMaster\Classical New\J.S. Bach\Piano and Violin Concertos No 1 (RIchter and Hlavacek)\01 - Violin Concerto No. 1 in A minor (Hlavá?ek) - I. Allegro Moderato.flac where you can see that the special "c" character has been replaced by a "?". From then on the file is not mentioned in the log: so it's not read for its tags. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111436 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS not seeing files with non-Latin characters in the filename (Windows)
I think this might be a known issue but I couldn't find a clear statement in the forums - maybe someone can help me out ... I'm running LMS 7.9.2 - 1575296326 on Windows 10 with my music on a local NTFS drive. If I use non-Latin (I think specifically non CP-1252) characters in filenames, LMS can't see them, even if I just Browse Music Folder. Here's an example: 01 - Violin Concerto No. 1 in A minor (Hlaváek) - I. Allegro Moderato.flac I can rename them of course: filenames are not that important and the tags work fine with Unicode. But by default I often use artist names in filenames so it could easily re-occur and I might not notice which will be generally annoying. Any ideas? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111436 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem triggered by DST change
Guess what! Six months later and the same thing. So I woke up this morning ... and selected "Music Library - Music Folder -> ..." and the server process got stuck. Everything non-responsive just like before. As before, seems to be because of DST changes. As before, no big deal: I took the opportunity to upgrade the server and run a scan from scratch and so I won't be back with problems for six months :-) But, if it's any help, here's the details: Logitech Media Server (v7.9.0, 1467524616, Sun Jul 3 05:51:14 CUT 2016) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread server.log: [16-10-31 13:52:15.7467] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (181) Discovering audio files in D:\AudioMaster [16-10-31 13:52:15.7817] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (193) Start processing found tracks [16-10-31 13:52:15.7821] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (201) Connect do DB [16-10-31 13:52:15.7823] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (204) Get latest ID [16-10-31 13:52:15.7828] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (226) Delete temporary table if exists [16-10-31 13:52:15.7837] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (229) Re-build temporary table [16-10-31 13:52:16.0108] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (271) DST has changed since last scan - fix timestamps in tracks table [16-10-31 13:52:16.4607] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (278) Get deleted tracks count [16-10-31 13:52:16.4609] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (285) Get new tracks count [16-10-31 13:52:16.4612] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (290) Get changed tracks count [16-10-31 13:52:16.6694] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (296) Removing deleted audio files (0) [16-10-31 13:52:16.6696] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (374) Scanning new audio files (0) [16-10-31 13:52:16.6698] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (454) Rescanning changed audio files (21918) The first line was triggered by me trying to browse the Music Folder. The last line shows that it thinks everything needs to be rescanned. I killed and upgraded after that. No other messages before me killing it. Ben bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105393 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
bpa wrote: > > If it has gone away then don't bother yourself anymore about the why. Thanks for helping. I had a similar odd and intermittent problem before, also fixed by turning off cross fade, so I should have tried it. I do think there may be some obscure bug lurking in the cross fade/sample rate corner but since I can't reproduce it I can't be sure. Thanks again. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
bpa wrote: > Also make sure in WebUI Setting/Player/Audio > > Crossfade - none > Bit rate limiting - No Limit. So now I don't know what's going on! It was definitely on no sync, and also no crossfade or bit rate limiting. But smart crossfade was enabled. I disabled it and it is now working! But then I turned smart crossfade back on again and it still works. In fact, now I can't stop it working ... So thanks for fixing it - but I wish I knew how it had gone wrong. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
bpa wrote: > Do a Xilinx reset just to be sure. Just did that and it said "programming xilinx" and then came up as normal - but still with the problem. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
bpa wrote: > I noticed in the log that you seemed to have played BBCiPlayer stream > before the MP3. BBCiPlayer is 48Khz Flac - so if it plays OK - I doubt > hardware is at fault. Do a Xilinx reset just to be sure. Yes, iplayer has always worked fine. Can you remind me how to do a Xilinx reset please? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
bpa wrote: > Is the player synced ? No, I unsynced them all before all the testing. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
OK so this is a bit weird. I have another SB3 which I don't use as much. I just got it out and tried it, and it will play the 48kHz mp3s fine. Two explanations spring to mind: 1) There is something incorrectly defined for the MAC address of the failing player. Can I make the server "forget" the player and recreate its config from scratch? 2) There is something wrong with the hardware of the player. Although this seems unlikely, one reason it might be possible is because, for some time, I have been getting occassional crashes. It comes up with a message, sometimes "nb alloc failed in slimproto", sometimes a different one about "make_space" and then reboots. It usually comes back fine and continues where it left off. For now, I'm going to swap the two over and see how I get on. But it would be good to know if the other one is on it's way out. I suppose I can't expect them to last forever ... bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
bstrulo wrote:
>
> I don't think I've changed my convert.conf but looking in it it has a
> section which says:
>
> >
Code:
> > # special case for smart bitrates on mp3 input
> mp3 mp3 transcode *
> # IFB:{BITRATE=--abr %B}D:{RESAMPLE=--resample %D}
> [lame] --silent -q $QUALITY$ $BITRATE$ $RESAMPLE$ --mp3input $FILE$ -
> >
>
> Presumably that's standard but maybe not? I don't see lame running
> when it's failing to play. But maybe I haven't even told the server
> where lame is - I don't do any transcoding normally.
>
Just added lame.exe to my server bin directory and that doesn't seem to
have changed anything.
Ben
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
garym wrote:
> have you done anything special like added a custom convert.conf file or
> edited your LMS convert.conf file? or changed anything in LMS > Settings
> > Advanced > File Types? What happens if you install 7.8 or 7.7? Any
> difference? Are you using a DAC or just analog outs of SB3?
Brilliant - thanks for replying.
I haven't deliberately done anything special but I do recall a lot of
fiddling to get the iPlayer working when the BBC changed it. Don't
think I did anything myself beyond the instructions though.
I am just using the analog outs. I also have a Duet - I don't use it
much but I just tested and that plays the 48kHz ones fine.
I looked at the File Types section and that says MP3 = Native.
I don't think I've changed my convert.conf but looking in it it has a
section which says:
Code:
# special case for smart bitrates on mp3 input
mp3 mp3 transcode *
# IFB:{BITRATE=--abr %B}D:{RESAMPLE=--resample %D}
[lame] --silent -q $QUALITY$ $BITRATE$ $RESAMPLE$ --mp3input $FILE$ -
Presumably that's standard but maybe not? I don't see lame running when
it's failing to play. But maybe I haven't even told the server where
lame is - I don't do any transcoding normally.
If I had a custom convert.conf is there somewhere else it might be (ie
not in the server directory)?
I'll try installing a different version tonight, if I get time, but I
haven't done it so far because I'm nervous I'll lose all my config. On
the other hand, I think the only important customisations are iPlayer
and spotify, so they are probably not too difficult to recreate. Maybe
I should also try reinstalling from scratch with 7.9
Thanks again
Ben
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
Bump: sorry to nag but does anyone have any ideas? This is starting to annoy me now; turns out there are more 48khz tracks in my library than I realised! bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SB3 won't play 48 kHz MP3s anymore
As the title says, they appear to start but no sound - then once it gets to six seconds or so it just restarts - so it just sits there playing nothing. I know they used to work a long time ago and I know they don't work now (on some 7.9 versions including the latest nightly: 7.9.0 - 1465358341) but I don't really know when they stopped working because I don't listen to them very often. I blame a server upgrade, but it's not impossible that I've messed up some config somewhere. I don't see anything in the server log, but of course that's with default logging. Anyone any ideas? Ben bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105741 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem triggered by DST change
The clocks went forward today. This afternoon I selected "Music Folder" on my SB3 and the server hung completely - all the devices lost their connections. On the server I could see the SqueezeSvr using loads of CPU (but not the scanner) and looking in the server log I could see: [16-03-28 16:37:56.0161] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (178) Discovering audio files in D:\AudioMaster [16-03-28 16:38:03.2442] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (189) Start processing found tracks [16-03-28 16:38:03.2444] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (197) Connect do DB [16-03-28 16:38:03.2447] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (200) Get latest ID [16-03-28 16:38:03.2454] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (222) Delete temporary table if exists [16-03-28 16:38:03.2462] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (225) Re-build temporary table [16-03-28 16:38:03.5097] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (267) DST has changed since last scan - fix timestamps in tracks table [16-03-28 16:38:03.8585] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (274) Get deleted tracks count [16-03-28 16:38:03.8587] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (281) Get new tracks count [16-03-28 16:38:03.8589] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (286) Get changed tracks count [16-03-28 16:38:04.0394] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (292) Removing deleted audio files (0) [16-03-28 16:38:04.0396] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (370) Scanning new audio files (0) [16-03-28 16:38:04.0399] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (450) Rescanning changed audio files (21917) However, this didn't seem to finish. Maybe it would have done if I'd left it long enough. Anyway, that was on v7.9.0, 1450801618, Tue Dec 22 16:33:24 CUT 2015 (on Windows 10, music on NTFS). Since then I've updated to v7.9.0, 1458661067, Tue Mar 22 15:46:29 CUT 2016 and cleared and fully rescanned. It's now fully working. So, obviously this is not high priority, since it's all working. But I thought the 'bugs' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18078) in this area had been fixed. Maybe my db was out of date or something? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105393 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with SB3 - stops playing
OK so this is pretty weird: I've more or less given up - I've bought a Duet to replace the SB3. But something was still bothering me. The problem seemed to only crop up in certain specific circumstances - transitioning between some but not all tracks. Internet radio never goes wrong, for example. So, I fiddled around and narrowed it down to wait for it, drum-roll cross-fade. It seems it reliably happens during a cross fade and never seems to happen any other time. Which was particularly confusing because I had smart cross fade on. I've disabled cross fade and it's been running now for a while with no problems. So that sounds like software, but I have an essentially identical other SB3 which never goes wrong, even with plenty of cross fades, which implies something in the player hardware. Does anyone know how cross fade is sent to the player: what parts of the player are used specifically and not used in normal play? bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104885 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with SB3 - stops playing
bpa wrote: > Bad WLAN card in SB3 can cause strange problems ultiimatley stopping an > SB3 totally. The WLAN card is easily removed but you need a Torx T10 > (IIRC) to open the unit. SB3 will work without a WLAN card installed. > See http://lowtek.ca/roo/2011/squeezebox-classic-repair/ OK You convinced me :-) Removed the WLAN card and still get the problem. :-( Still the good news is that I've found a Duet for sale. So I might be back in business next week ... bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104885 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with SB3 - stops playing
I'll attach the full log, though I feel a bit guilty expecting you to look through it ... By jammed I mean it responds fully to all commands: I can browse all the menus and so on. But the VU meter on the right stays always showing (even when it shouldn't be there) and always shows the same level. If I hit play on another track, the Now Playing display changes but the VU meter stays jammed and nothing plays. It does respond to web GUI changes. It's as if everything is working except the actual audio part. Here's a log extract when it went wrong on its own (rather than because I hit skip to next): Code: [15-12-30 12:59:20.0038] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-strm: fullness=215954, output_fullness=3483840, elapsed=995.139 [15-12-30 12:59:20.4997] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=194962, output_fullness=3505344, elapsed=995.636 [15-12-30 12:59:21.5018] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=150930, output_fullness=3512896, elapsed=996.636 [15-12-30 12:59:22.4998] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=109458, output_fullness=3487808, elapsed=997.636 [15-12-30 12:59:23.5000] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=69012, output_fullness=3495488, elapsed=998.636 [15-12-30 12:59:24.4997] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=19350, output_fullness=3503040, elapsed=999.636 [15-12-30 12:59:24.9680] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMd: fullness=0, output_fullness=3490048, elapsed=1000.091 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4097] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream_s (542) stream_s called: format: flc url: file:///D:/AudioMaster/Classical/Aaron%20Copland/Fanfare%20for%20the%20Common%20Man%20(Copland%20LSO)/03-Fanfare%20for%20the%20common%20man.flac [15-12-30 12:59:25.4109] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream_s (974) Starting decoder with format: f flags: 0x0 autostart: 1 buffer threshold: 255 output threshold: 0 samplesize: ? samplerate: ? endian: ? channels: ? [15-12-30 12:59:25.4139] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:12:45:0c: STAT-STMt: fullness=0, output_fullness=3517096, elapsed=0.000 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4142] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:12:45:0c: STAT-strm: fullness=0, output_fullness=3517096, elapsed=0.000 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4155] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMf: fullness=0, output_fullness=3327616, elapsed=1000.551 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4173] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMc: fullness=0, output_fullness=3327104, elapsed=1000.553 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4181] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-strm: fullness=0, output_fullness=3326848, elapsed=1000.554 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4193] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-audg: fullness=0, output_fullness=3326208, elapsed=1000.555 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4252] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=0, output_fullness=3325312, elapsed=1000.558 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4256] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-strm: fullness=0, output_fullness=3325056, elapsed=1000.559 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4266] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMe: fullness=0, output_fullness=3324288, elapsed=1000.561 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4279] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMh: fullness=0, output_fullness=3323264, elapsed=1000.564 [15-12-30 12:59:25.4299] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_http_response_handler (554) Squeezebox got HTTP response: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.0 - 1450801618) Connection: close Content-Type: audio/x-flac [15-12-30 12:59:25.5007] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=137012, output_fullness=3297664, elapsed=1000.636 [15-12-30 12:59:26.5007] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=1976896, output_fullness=2944896, elapsed=1001.636 [15-12-30 12:59:27.4997] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=3144896, output_fullness=2592128, elapsed=1002.636 [15-12-30 12:59:28.4995] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=3144896, output_fullness=2239232, elapsed=1003.636 [15-12-30 12:59:29.4997] Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_stat_handler (785) 00:04:20:07:4d:fe: STAT-STMt: fullness=3144896, output_fullness=1886464, elapsed=1004.636 [15-12-30 12:59:30.0021]
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with SB3 - stops playing
bpa wrote: > IIRC The VU meter (and spectrum analyser) is driven by firmware in the > player by reading the PCM stream. I think some of the other "now > playing" screen are driven by LMS. By changing the screen - I'd like to > know if progress bar changes when playing a track. > edit: > > I have presumed you have done a Xilinx reset as well as afactory reset. I did a Xilinx reset but thinking back - maybe I only did it on the wired one? I'll try again. After swapping them, it is now the wired one (that used to be wireless) that is going wrong. So I think it may be a hardware/firmware problem with that particular SB3 - nothing to do with wireless or network. It's just done it again. Oh dear ... Incidentally, I tried your suggestion. The web gui successfully changed the progress bar but the VU meter stayed unchanged (even though in the web gui I had switched it to spectrum). bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104885 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problem with SB3 - stops playing
bpa wrote: > Rather than pull power plugin - try holding < (left arrow) on remote for > a long time and force player into firmware menu. > > Next time when jammed - enable logging network.protocol.slimproto to > INFO and see what messages are being sent to player. Thanks - sounds like good advice. With the wired one only working now, the problem hasn't reoccurred yet. So maybe your original diagnosis was right and it was something to do with the wireless. Not sure. I'll report back if it happens again. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104885 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How to handle duplicates (MP3 / FLAC) files?
I have three directories: Master: which contains anything which is original, typically in FLAC, but also some other formats where I got it in a lossy format. So this does have some MP3s in it. This is what I point LMS at. MP3: which contains MP3 recodes of things that exist in the Master directory. I can delete this at any time and re-create it with a little script which just runs lame. Lowqview: which contains links to MP3 for everything in there, plus links to Master for all the ones which are actually mastered in MP3. This is the directory I point phones and other players to. You can make hard links in windows with mklink. Both Master and Lowqview have exactly the same tree structure which is just how I like to see my music. The MP3 directory is just a kind of cache which I never use directly. Maybe it's a bit overkill but it works smoothly now and gives me everything I need. bstrulo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104882 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
