Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-18 Thread ho_kuku

diode84 wrote: 
> I have burned a usb key with it. Not got past login yet. What is
> headhead. It seems quite a large distro to run on a 1.4ghz dual core
> with 2ghz ram but I will keep trying.


Apologies. Typo. Its overhead not headhead. My bad

You can refer to the installation guide here for Volumio (for reference
only) -  https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-x86-install-hdd-t5058.html

In essence- you need to create 2 usb drives. 
1st drive - any bootable usb image will do. I suggest you use the
volumio image 

2nd drive - you need to copy the img file into the 2nd usb. Do not burn
the image to the usb drive. Just copy the img file to your 2nd usb drive
will do. You’ll have to substitute the volumio image in the instruction
to dietpi image. 


Procedure in a nutshell involves:

1 - booting from the bootable drive (Suggest to use imageusb -
freeware). This also mean that you have to set the your booting order in
the pc bios

2 - copy the img file from the 2nd usb drive to your computer hdd. 

I use the Native PC for Bios/Csm image (only 147mb). Relatively small
footprint

There is a library of softwares you can install. LMS and Squeezelite are
both in the list.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-17 Thread diode84

ho_kuku wrote: 
> Almost no headhead. 
> https://dietpi.com/
> 
> Tryit. Its free.I’ve use this for a long time until I got myself a sonic
> transporter
I have burned a usb key with it. Not got past login yet. What is
headhead. It seems quite a large distro to run on a 1.4ghz dual core
with 2ghz ram but I will keep trying.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-17 Thread diode84


Thanks GVH I will try a beta but can you tell me what advantage ssh is



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-15 Thread gvh


Daphile is very good. I ran it for a few years on an old HP micro
server. However the release version gives you no ssh access and I
started to have problems that I think might be hardware related and
could not diagnose them. So I'm back on Ubuntu desktop, because I can.
So in summary, Daphile is excellent but install the beta which has ssh
enabled.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-13 Thread ho_kuku

Almost no headhead. 
https://dietpi.com/

Tryit. Its free.I’ve use this for a long time until I got myself a sonic
transporter



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-08 Thread diode84


Roland0 wrote: 
> 
> A different approach would be to run LMS in a container, e.g. install
> Alpine Linux (~130 MB of storage) and then the smallest LMS Docker
> container you can find

Its beyond my capabilities, Alpine Linux, not for me and I dont
understand containers and LMS Docker containers so I will give up my
quest but thanks everyone for the help



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-08 Thread diode84


paul- wrote: 
> 1) Install perl
> 2) Install git.
> 3) Then clone this repo   https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver.git  
> to a persistent drive.
> 
> Likely you will need to build a few crypto modules
> 4) install compile tools   compiletc.tcz
> 5) Use cpan to install needed perl modules.
> When you first run cpan, it will configure itself, set it up to
> install to your local user library.
> 6) Build modules.the one I know you need is IO::Socket:SSL, but you
> may need Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA
> To build/install just type cpan install IO::Socket::SSLetc.
> 7) Should be able to run slimserver now.
> 
> 8) Make sure you back things up when you are done.

That is too complex for me Paul. I think I will give up this quest.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-08 Thread paul-


1) Install perl
2) Install git.
3) Then clone this repo   https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver.git  
to a persistent drive.

Likely you will need to build a few crypto modules
4) install compile tools   compiletc.tcz
5) Use cpan to install needed perl modules.
When you first run cpan, it will configure itself, set it up to
install to your local user library.
6) Build modules.the one I know you need is IO::Socket:SSL, but you
may need Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA
To build/install just type cpan install IO::Socket::SSLetc.
7) Should be able to run slimserver now.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-08 Thread diode84


paul- wrote: 
> There is a tad bit of learning curve with tinycore.   pCP uses the
> Raspberry pi port of Tinycore. (piCore)
> 
> If the base OS works for you.The best way to test LMS would be to
> clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git.  If you are
> still happy, then I can give you pointers how to build an extension.
(The best way to test LMS would be to clone the LMS git repo to your
device, and run from Git). Sorry Paul can you explain that.
I have CorePlus working fine.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-08 Thread diode84


Roland0 wrote: 
> I'd suggest you try again with Puppy. Make sure you get the right
> version of LMS:
> If you use BionicPup64, you'll need the latest nightly (7.9.2, e.g.
> logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1572699180_amd64.deb)
> If you use XenialPup64, 7.9.1 should work as well
> If this still fails, check the LMS server.log 
> 
> A different approach would be to run LMS in a container, e.g. install
> Alpine Linux (~130 MB of storage) and then the smallest LMS Docker
> container you can find

I have removed unknown LMS then installed LMS 7.9.1 as you said
There is no menu entry for LMS.. If I try to run it in terminal I get an
error message ( Can't locate FindBin.pm in @INC (you may need to install
the FindBin module)
Any ideas and where is  LMS server log likely to be.
Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread Roland0


diode84 wrote: 
> Is anyone running LMS on a PC with a very small linux operating system.
> I have a 1.0 ghz, 2gb ram on a 2gb flash drive.
> I have tried puppy Linux but cant get LMS to run on it, it installs but
> wont run.
> 

I'd suggest you try again with Puppy. Make sure you get the right
version of LMS:
If you use BionicPup64, you'll need the latest nightly (7.9.2, e.g.
logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1572699180_amd64.deb)
If you use XenialPup64, 7.9.1 should work as well
If this still fails, check the LMS server.log 

A different approach would be to run LMS in a container, e.g. install
Alpine Linux (~130 MB of storage) and then the smallest LMS Docker
container you can find



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread Jeff07971


slartibartfast wrote: 
> A joke I suspect. 
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Indeed it was !



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread slartibartfast


diode84 wrote: 
> Never heard of that, what is it?A joke I suspect. 

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> How about PcCP ? :D

Never heard of that, what is it?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread Jeff07971


paul- wrote: 
> There is a tad bit of learning curve with tinycore.   pCP uses the
> Raspberry pi port of Tinycore. (piCore)
> 
> If the base OS works for you.The best way to test LMS would be to
> clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git.  If you are
> still happy, then I can give you pointers how to build an extension.

How about PCcP ? :D



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread paul-


There is a tad bit of learning curve with tinycore.   pCP uses the
Raspberry pi port of Tinycore. (piCore)

If the base OS works for you.The best way to test LMS would be to
clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git.  If you are
still happy, then I can give you pointers how to build an extension.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


Paul Webster wrote: 
> How about TinyCore - as used (in essence at least) by pCP?

I will have a play with TinyCore, thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread Paul Webster


How about TinyCore - as used (in essence at least) by pCP?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread d6jg


diode84 wrote: 
> The thin clients have 4 usb bays but they boot up much faster if on
> internal flash.
> I still need a small fast boot linux OS preferably not bloatware and it
> must run LMS.

I suppose the USBs aren't USB3. If they were it would pay to boot from a
USB3 SSD.
I run Vortexbox on an 80GB SSD - that doesn't have a GUI and is out of
date Fedora wise but LMS performance is very very good.
I would stick to a mainstream distro such as Centos or Debian which I'm
sure you could fit on 80GB



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


d6jg wrote: 
> Won't it boot from USB?

It will boot from usb but slowly.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


The thin clients have 4 usb bays but they boot up much faster if on
internal flash.
I still need a small fast boot linux OS preferably not bloatware and it
must run LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread d6jg


diode84 wrote: 
> The bigger flash drive is not possible as pc is a thin client and flash
> soldered in.
> I have another with 4gb but that is promised to a mate.
> I run daphile now but its not open source so I cant adjust jivelite
> settings like I can on pCP so 7" screen is far too small to read easily.

Won't it boot from USB?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> Well get a bigger USB flash drive, should be OK with an 8 or 16 GB
> 
> I think Daphile can run "Live" also

The bigger flash drive is not possible as pc is a thin client and flash
soldered in.
I have another with 4gb but that is promised to a mate.
I run daphile now but its not open source so I cant adjust jivelite
settings like I can on pCP so 7" screen is far too small to read easily.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread d6jg


I'd consider running from a small SSD as LMS really benefits if the
database is on such a drive. Does the machine have a HD drive bay?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread Jeff07971


diode84 wrote: 
> On an external usb drive.

Well get a bigger USB flash drive, should be OK with an 8 or 16 GB

I think Daphile can run "Live" also



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> Debian 
> Centos 7
> 
> Just saw the 2GB Disk limit so no thse two won't work, where are you
> going to put the music ?
On an external usb drive.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread Jeff07971


diode84 wrote: 
> Is anyone running LMS on a PC with a very small linux operating system.
> I have a 1.0 ghz, 2gb ram on a 2gb flash drive.
> I have tried puppy Linux but cant get LMS to run on it, it installs but
> wont run.
> What small OS will run LMS.
> Any ideas please.
> Thanks
> diode84

Debian 
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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC

2019-11-07 Thread diode84


Is anyone running LMS on a PC with a very small linux operating system.
I have a 1.0 ghz, 2gb ram on a 2gb flash drive.
I have tried puppy Linux but cant get LMS to run on it, it installs but
wont run.
What small OS will run LMS.
Any ideas please.
Thanks
diode84



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