Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > I have burned a usb key with it. Not got past login yet. What is > headhead. It seems quite a large distro to run on a 1.4ghz dual core > with 2ghz ram but I will keep trying. Apologies. Typo. Its overhead not headhead. My bad You can refer to the installation guide here for Volumio (for reference only) - https://forum.volumio.org/volumio-x86-install-hdd-t5058.html In essence- you need to create 2 usb drives. 1st drive - any bootable usb image will do. I suggest you use the volumio image 2nd drive - you need to copy the img file into the 2nd usb. Do not burn the image to the usb drive. Just copy the img file to your 2nd usb drive will do. Youll have to substitute the volumio image in the instruction to dietpi image. Procedure in a nutshell involves: 1 - booting from the bootable drive (Suggest to use imageusb - freeware). This also mean that you have to set the your booting order in the pc bios 2 - copy the img file from the 2nd usb drive to your computer hdd. I use the Native PC for Bios/Csm image (only 147mb). Relatively small footprint There is a library of softwares you can install. LMS and Squeezelite are both in the list. ho_kuku's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
ho_kuku wrote: > Almost no headhead. > https://dietpi.com/ > > Tryit. Its free.Ive use this for a long time until I got myself a sonic > transporter I have burned a usb key with it. Not got past login yet. What is headhead. It seems quite a large distro to run on a 1.4ghz dual core with 2ghz ram but I will keep trying. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Thanks GVH I will try a beta but can you tell me what advantage ssh is diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Daphile is very good. I ran it for a few years on an old HP micro server. However the release version gives you no ssh access and I started to have problems that I think might be hardware related and could not diagnose them. So I'm back on Ubuntu desktop, because I can. So in summary, Daphile is excellent but install the beta which has ssh enabled. gvh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Almost no headhead. https://dietpi.com/ Tryit. Its free.Ive use this for a long time until I got myself a sonic transporter ho_kuku's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Roland0 wrote: > > A different approach would be to run LMS in a container, e.g. install > Alpine Linux (~130 MB of storage) and then the smallest LMS Docker > container you can find Its beyond my capabilities, Alpine Linux, not for me and I dont understand containers and LMS Docker containers so I will give up my quest but thanks everyone for the help diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
paul- wrote: > 1) Install perl > 2) Install git. > 3) Then clone this repo https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver.git > to a persistent drive. > > Likely you will need to build a few crypto modules > 4) install compile tools compiletc.tcz > 5) Use cpan to install needed perl modules. > When you first run cpan, it will configure itself, set it up to > install to your local user library. > 6) Build modules.the one I know you need is IO::Socket:SSL, but you > may need Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA > To build/install just type cpan install IO::Socket::SSLetc. > 7) Should be able to run slimserver now. > > 8) Make sure you back things up when you are done. That is too complex for me Paul. I think I will give up this quest. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
1) Install perl 2) Install git. 3) Then clone this repo https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver.git to a persistent drive. Likely you will need to build a few crypto modules 4) install compile tools compiletc.tcz 5) Use cpan to install needed perl modules. When you first run cpan, it will configure itself, set it up to install to your local user library. 6) Build modules.the one I know you need is IO::Socket:SSL, but you may need Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA To build/install just type cpan install IO::Socket::SSLetc. 7) Should be able to run slimserver now. 8) Make sure you back things up when you are done. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=U7JHY5WYHCNRU&lc=GB¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
paul- wrote: > There is a tad bit of learning curve with tinycore. pCP uses the > Raspberry pi port of Tinycore. (piCore) > > If the base OS works for you.The best way to test LMS would be to > clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git. If you are > still happy, then I can give you pointers how to build an extension. (The best way to test LMS would be to clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git). Sorry Paul can you explain that. I have CorePlus working fine. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Roland0 wrote: > I'd suggest you try again with Puppy. Make sure you get the right > version of LMS: > If you use BionicPup64, you'll need the latest nightly (7.9.2, e.g. > logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1572699180_amd64.deb) > If you use XenialPup64, 7.9.1 should work as well > If this still fails, check the LMS server.log > > A different approach would be to run LMS in a container, e.g. install > Alpine Linux (~130 MB of storage) and then the smallest LMS Docker > container you can find I have removed unknown LMS then installed LMS 7.9.1 as you said There is no menu entry for LMS.. If I try to run it in terminal I get an error message ( Can't locate FindBin.pm in @INC (you may need to install the FindBin module) Any ideas and where is LMS server log likely to be. Thanks diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > Is anyone running LMS on a PC with a very small linux operating system. > I have a 1.0 ghz, 2gb ram on a 2gb flash drive. > I have tried puppy Linux but cant get LMS to run on it, it installs but > wont run. > I'd suggest you try again with Puppy. Make sure you get the right version of LMS: If you use BionicPup64, you'll need the latest nightly (7.9.2, e.g. logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1572699180_amd64.deb) If you use XenialPup64, 7.9.1 should work as well If this still fails, check the LMS server.log A different approach would be to run LMS in a container, e.g. install Alpine Linux (~130 MB of storage) and then the smallest LMS Docker container you can find 'Various SW' (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/sw/): Web Interface | Playlist Editor / Generator | Music Classification | Similar Music | Announce | EventTrigger | LMSlib2go | ... 'Various HowTos' (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/documents/LMS/): build a self-contained LMS | Bluetooth/ALSA | Control LMS with any device | ... Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
slartibartfast wrote: > A joke I suspect. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Indeed it was ! *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 8.0 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U3 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1.5K albums with 25K songs by 5K artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > Never heard of that, what is it?A joke I suspect. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Jeff07971 wrote: > How about PcCP ? :D Never heard of that, what is it? diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
paul- wrote: > There is a tad bit of learning curve with tinycore. pCP uses the > Raspberry pi port of Tinycore. (piCore) > > If the base OS works for you.The best way to test LMS would be to > clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git. If you are > still happy, then I can give you pointers how to build an extension. How about PCcP ? :D *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.6 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U3 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1.5K albums with 25K songs by 5K artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
There is a tad bit of learning curve with tinycore. pCP uses the Raspberry pi port of Tinycore. (piCore) If the base OS works for you.The best way to test LMS would be to clone the LMS git repo to your device, and run from Git. If you are still happy, then I can give you pointers how to build an extension. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=U7JHY5WYHCNRU&lc=GB¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Paul Webster wrote: > How about TinyCore - as used (in essence at least) by pCP? I will have a play with TinyCore, thanks. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
How about TinyCore - as used (in essence at least) by pCP? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > The thin clients have 4 usb bays but they boot up much faster if on > internal flash. > I still need a small fast boot linux OS preferably not bloatware and it > must run LMS. I suppose the USBs aren't USB3. If they were it would pay to boot from a USB3 SSD. I run Vortexbox on an 80GB SSD - that doesn't have a GUI and is out of date Fedora wise but LMS performance is very very good. I would stick to a mainstream distro such as Centos or Debian which I'm sure you could fit on 80GB VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
d6jg wrote: > Won't it boot from USB? It will boot from usb but slowly. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
The thin clients have 4 usb bays but they boot up much faster if on internal flash. I still need a small fast boot linux OS preferably not bloatware and it must run LMS. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > The bigger flash drive is not possible as pc is a thin client and flash > soldered in. > I have another with 4gb but that is promised to a mate. > I run daphile now but its not open source so I cant adjust jivelite > settings like I can on pCP so 7" screen is far too small to read easily. Won't it boot from USB? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Jeff07971 wrote: > Well get a bigger USB flash drive, should be OK with an 8 or 16 GB > > I think Daphile can run "Live" also The bigger flash drive is not possible as pc is a thin client and flash soldered in. I have another with 4gb but that is promised to a mate. I run daphile now but its not open source so I cant adjust jivelite settings like I can on pCP so 7" screen is far too small to read easily. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
I'd consider running from a small SSD as LMS really benefits if the database is on such a drive. Does the machine have a HD drive bay? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > On an external usb drive. Well get a bigger USB flash drive, should be OK with an 8 or 16 GB I think Daphile can run "Live" also *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.6 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U3 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1.5K albums with 25K songs by 5K artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Jeff07971 wrote: > Debian > Centos 7 > > Just saw the 2GB Disk limit so no thse two won't work, where are you > going to put the music ? On an external usb drive. diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
diode84 wrote: > Is anyone running LMS on a PC with a very small linux operating system. > I have a 1.0 ghz, 2gb ram on a 2gb flash drive. > I have tried puppy Linux but cant get LMS to run on it, it installs but > wont run. > What small OS will run LMS. > Any ideas please. > Thanks > diode84 Debian Centos 7 *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.6 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U3 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1.5K albums with 25K songs by 5K artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I need a very small linux to run LMS on PC
Is anyone running LMS on a PC with a very small linux operating system. I have a 1.0 ghz, 2gb ram on a 2gb flash drive. I have tried puppy Linux but cant get LMS to run on it, it installs but wont run. What small OS will run LMS. Any ideas please. Thanks diode84 diode84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter