Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Performance using network drive for music storage? (LMS running in virtual machine)

2017-08-14 Thread itm

Many thanks for all the feedback. I think I'll try Jeff07971's
suggestion first and try a VMFS datastore first (I can't remember why I
chose RDM in the first place). At least I know I have the network
storage option as an acceptable alternative if the disk gets corrupted
again - subject to the caveat about scan times, of course.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Performance using network drive for music storage? (LMS running in virtual machine)

2017-08-14 Thread d6jg

I have had LMS running on various machines pointing at my NAS via NFS
and sometimes CIFS. As others had said it makes no difference except
scan times.

The only thing I would add is that if LMS needs write access - playlists
etc - then NFS user/group ownership needs to be considered but since you
are talking  Windows server I guess you will be using CIFS which doesn't
present that issue as you must declare the username & password.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Performance using network drive for music storage? (LMS running in virtual machine)

2017-08-14 Thread drmatt

As a network drive it makes zero difference to performance during
operation only during scan. Whether that scan is fast enough for you is
something only you can answer.. it won't change much as likely the drive
itself and the IOPs it supports is the limiting factor.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Performance using network drive for music storage? (LMS running in virtual machine)

2017-08-13 Thread pippin

My setup is pretty similar and I’m quite happy about it.
It’s very flexible, especially if I want to set up a second server
instance for testing etc or when accessing the music from different
machines. My NAS also has RAID which makes handling disc faults and
upgrades easier.

The downside is that scans take longer but I don’t do these too often
and for everything else performance is normal, the music files are only
accessed for streaming, everything else runs in memory on the server
running LMS



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Performance using network drive for music storage? (LMS running in virtual machine)

2017-08-13 Thread Jeff07971

itm wrote: 
> Does anyone know if there's a major performance hit if you use a network
> storage device for your music? 
> 
> I run LMS 7.9.0 on a Windows 2008 Server Virtual Machine, running on an
> ESXi host. My music is stored on a 4TB NTFS-formatted SATA drive. I've
> tried connecting this drive to the ESXi host machine in a couple of ways
> (e.g. internally connected directly to the SATA controller, and
> externally in a USB enclosure), and mapping it using RDM, but the VM
> environment doesn't handle it well at all - the disk always becomes
> corrupt after a relatively short period of time. Probably a hardware
> compatibility issue between the drive (a WD Blue) and ESXi. Or maybe the
> size of the drive is a problem for ESXi.
> 
> Anyway I'm now thinking of transplanting the drive to my Linux file
> server in the loft, and pointing LMS at it from the Windows VM
> downstairs, but wanted to get feedback on whether this is a good idea
> before I embark on the whole process.
> 
> Any views?

Why not connect the SATA drive to the host as a VMFS datastore ?

A 4TB disk should be fine as a 4 (odd)TB datastore



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Performance using network drive for music storage? (LMS running in virtual machine)

2017-08-13 Thread itm

Does anyone know if there's a major performance hit if you use a network
storage device for your music? 

I run LMS 7.9.0 on a Windows 2008 Server Virtual Machine, running on an
ESXi host. My music is stored on a 4TB NTFS-formatted SATA drive. I've
tried connecting this drive to the ESXi host machine in a couple of ways
(e.g. internally connected directly to the SATA controller, and
externally in a USB enclosure), and mapping it using RDM, but the VM
environment doesn't handle it well at all - the disk always becomes
corrupt after a relatively short period of time. Probably a hardware
compatibility issue between the drive (a WD Blue) and ESXi. Or maybe the
size of the drive is a problem for ESXi.

Anyway I'm now thinking of transplanting the drive to my Linux file
server in the loft, and pointing LMS at it from the Windows VM
downstairs, but wanted to get feedback on whether this is a good idea
before I embark on the whole process.

Any views?



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