Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-12-17 Thread Amos Jeffries
 On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:53:57 +1200 (NZST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just added a FAQ page
 (http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/WindowsUpdate) with the content of
 this thread.

 Can anyone please make a link to
 http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/WindowsUpdate
 in http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/ ?


Done. And the WU page updated with some more info found recently to make
it play nice with Vista and Win98.

Amos




Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update - SOLVED!!

2007-06-24 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
fre 2007-06-22 klockan 10:39 +0100 skrev Julian Pilfold-Bagwell:

 It's cured. You were right about allowing access to winupdate. The 
 confusing aspect is that some time back, we had to wrestle for a day to 
 get it working after Windows updated itself. It turned out that you had 
 to use the always_direct directive to get it work as it would crash out 
 otherwise.
 
 Don't know what Microsoft have done to Windows Update but it now has to 
 go back to http_allow.

always_direct has little or no effect on things. All always_direct does
it making Squid ignore any cache_peers you may have. If you don't have
any cache_peer then it's a no-operation thing as going direct is then
the only option Squid has..

So if using always_direct did make any difference then you have a
cache_peer which doesn't work with windows update, or otherwise it just
started to work by accident.

Regards
Henrik


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Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-06-22 Thread Julian Pilfold-Bagwell

Henrik Nordstrom wrote:

tor 2007-06-21 klockan 14:22 +0100 skrev Julian Pilfold-Bagwell:

  

If I am to guess you might need to allow access to the windows
  

update
  

servers without using authentication.
  


  

Is it possible to do that while retaining authentication for users?



Yes.

Just allow access to the windows update servers before where you
normally require authentication.

Regards
Henrik
  

Hi again,

Does the first acl line: 


acl winupdate dstdomain .microsoft.com .windowsupdate.com

not do this? I put the always_direct rule in before the mynetwork rule 
but it doesn't seem to do the trick.


Thanks,

Jools


Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update - SOLVED!!

2007-06-22 Thread Julian Pilfold-Bagwell

Hi Henrik,

It's cured. You were right about allowing access to winupdate. The 
confusing aspect is that some time back, we had to wrestle for a day to 
get it working after Windows updated itself. It turned out that you had 
to use the always_direct directive to get it work as it would crash out 
otherwise.


Don't know what Microsoft have done to Windows Update but it now has to 
go back to http_allow.


Thanks again, much appreciated,

All the best,

Julian Pilfold-Bagwell


Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-06-21 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
tor 2007-06-21 klockan 14:22 +0100 skrev Julian Pilfold-Bagwell:

  If I am to guess you might need to allow access to the windows update
  servers without using authentication.

 Is it possible to do that while retaining authentication for users?

Yes.

Just allow access to the windows update servers before where you
normally require authentication.

Regards
Henrik


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Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-06-21 Thread D E Radel

Henrik Nordstrom wrote:

tor 2007-06-21 klockan 14:22 +0100 skrev Julian Pilfold-Bagwell:


If I am to guess you might need to allow access to the windows update
servers without using authentication.



Is it possible to do that while retaining authentication for users?


Yes.

Just allow access to the windows update servers before where you
normally require authentication.

Regards
Henrik


That's what we do and it works very well. We do the same for common antivirus 
update sites too. :-)

Just a thought on WindowsUpdate via squid though, it's very very slow through squid. Seems to take 
many minutes to check for updates, but when bypassing the proxy this is not the case. I wonder if 
this is normal for squid?


cheers,
Dietrich.


Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-06-21 Thread Norman Noah

We implement windows update through proxy without delay pool and
there's no problem at all.

acl fast dstdom_regex download.windowsupdate.com update.microsoft.com
acl fast dstdom_regex download.microsoft.com ds.microsoft.com

#direct bandwitdhfull access to websites
delay_class 1 2
delay_parameters 1 -1/-1 -1/-1
delay_access 1 allow fast
delay_access 1 deny all


Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-06-21 Thread squid3
 Henrik Nordstrom wrote:
 tor 2007-06-21 klockan 14:22 +0100 skrev Julian Pilfold-Bagwell:

 If I am to guess you might need to allow access to the windows update
 servers without using authentication.

 Is it possible to do that while retaining authentication for users?

 Yes.

 Just allow access to the windows update servers before where you
 normally require authentication.

 Regards
 Henrik

 That's what we do and it works very well. We do the same for common
 antivirus update sites too. :-)

 Just a thought on WindowsUpdate via squid though, it's very very slow
 through squid. Seems to take
 many minutes to check for updates, but when bypassing the proxy this is
 not the case. I wonder if
 this is normal for squid?


It is a side effect of WindowsUpdate that has been seen before on occasion
under some squid configs.

WindowsUpdate apparently pulls its data from the main servers using
partial Ranges. Squid does not to my knowledge fully support storage of
partial ranges (we have plans to improve this but no sponsor yet I think).
Also some configurations are set to always pull the entire file when a
range is requested.
The cachability settings of the WU servers may also be a factor.

If your config has been set to always pull the entire file and cache it,
you could try allowing squid to pull ranges and not cache them.


Amos




Re: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update

2007-06-21 Thread Dietrich Radel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for that Amos. Can anyone please point me in the right direction
to documentation about configuring such features? The WU issues probably
needs expanding upon in the FAQs I guess. :-)

Thanks in advance.
Dietrich




The relevant squid.conf settings I know of are: http_access and range_offset.

Earlier posts here in squid-users or google may have better details.

I have just added a FAQ page
(http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/WindowsUpdate) with the content of
this thread.

Amos

  


Brilliant! Thanks. :-)
Dietrich


Re: [squid-users] squid and Windows update

2006-03-05 Thread D E Radel
For me, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I made sure that 
.microsoft.com url is not cached or needing authentication.


- Original Message - 
From: Dominique Bagnato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: squid-users@squid-cache.org
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [squid-users] squid and Windows update



Any problems downloading windows update througth squid ?
Thank you.

--
Dominique Bagnato - Head of the Technology Department.
French International School - Bethesda, MD. USA
Tel:301 530 8260 Ext:279 - http://www.rochambeau.org 




Re: [squid-users] squid and Windows update

2006-03-05 Thread Mark Elsen
 Any problems downloading windows update througth squid ?
 Thank you.


 http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/FAQ/FAQ-11.html#ss11.54

 M.


RE: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update.

2003-12-04 Thread Henrik Nordstrom
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Sturgis, Grant wrote:

 I am having the exact problem (see my post from yesterday).  I have created a 
 temporary work around by adding:
 
 acl windowsupdate dstdomain .windowsupdate.microsoft.com
 no_cache deny windowsupdate 
 
 to squid.conf.
 
 Any other ideas?

Look in access.log and try to figure out which cache hit is causing the 
conflict and then PURGE this object from the cache.

Then complain to Microsoft for making WU server updates in a way which is
not compatible with caches. Maybe they will eventually learn how to work 
in cooperation with caches.

Regards
Henrik



RE: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update.

2003-12-03 Thread Mike McCall
I'm having the same issue here too, which I first noticed yesterday.  It
looks like https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ works though.  I assume
that because Squid just relays SSL traffic, whatever causes the non-secure
site to break is not affected.

Any ideas on a permanent fix or workaround would be appreciated, though!

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Palmer J.D.F. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update.


Hello,

I'm having a bit of an issue with Squid and Windows Update.
In the last day or so we have noticed machines on campus failing to get
their WUs.

All goes well until I click the scan for updates link and then I get an
error, the M$ error is the seemingly infamous '0x800a138F' error.

Many pages from the search below blame the new hosting arrangements that M$
have with Akamai, stating that Akamai are also a host for many ad banners so
are often blocked by admin's.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=0x800a13
8F

However we don't appear to have any rules in our squid.conf that block
access to that site, neither when I log the requests from my test machine
does it deny access to any of the requests; Anyway on further investigation
I have retrieved another M$ error code from the WU Log file on the client
PC, this is '0x800C0002' which according to M$ is Invalid URL.

I only get this problem going through the squid boxes.

Another twist to this is that if I turn the cache settings off in IE do a WU
scan which succeeds and then turn the cache settings back on it works fine
thereafter. However it is not possible for us to turn the cache setting off
all the machines here, even if it were we'd have to open up the firewall to
allow port 80 access for all machines rather than just the WWW and a select
few admin machines.

Is this a known bug with squid?

Many thanks,
Jezz Palmer.


Jezz Palmer.
Internet Systems Officer.
Library and Information Services
University of Wales, Swansea
Singleton Park
Swansea
SA2 8PP










RE: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update.

2003-12-03 Thread Sturgis, Grant
I am having the exact problem (see my post from yesterday).  I have created a 
temporary work around by adding:

acl windowsupdate dstdomain .windowsupdate.microsoft.com
no_cache deny windowsupdate 

to squid.conf.

Any other ideas?

Grant

-Original Message-
From: Mike McCall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Palmer J.D.F.'
Subject: RE: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update.


I'm having the same issue here too, which I first noticed yesterday.  It
looks like https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ works though.  I assume
that because Squid just relays SSL traffic, whatever causes the non-secure
site to break is not affected.

Any ideas on a permanent fix or workaround would be appreciated, though!

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Palmer J.D.F. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [squid-users] Squid and Windows Update.


Hello,

I'm having a bit of an issue with Squid and Windows Update.
In the last day or so we have noticed machines on campus failing to get
their WUs.

All goes well until I click the scan for updates link and then I get an
error, the M$ error is the seemingly infamous '0x800a138F' error.

Many pages from the search below blame the new hosting arrangements that M$
have with Akamai, stating that Akamai are also a host for many ad banners so
are often blocked by admin's.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=0x800a13
8F

However we don't appear to have any rules in our squid.conf that block
access to that site, neither when I log the requests from my test machine
does it deny access to any of the requests; Anyway on further investigation
I have retrieved another M$ error code from the WU Log file on the client
PC, this is '0x800C0002' which according to M$ is Invalid URL.

I only get this problem going through the squid boxes.

Another twist to this is that if I turn the cache settings off in IE do a WU
scan which succeeds and then turn the cache settings back on it works fine
thereafter. However it is not possible for us to turn the cache setting off
all the machines here, even if it were we'd have to open up the firewall to
allow port 80 access for all machines rather than just the WWW and a select
few admin machines.

Is this a known bug with squid?

Many thanks,
Jezz Palmer.


Jezz Palmer.
Internet Systems Officer.
Library and Information Services
University of Wales, Swansea
Singleton Park
Swansea
SA2 8PP









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