Re: Air Supply (not the band)

2003-04-04 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Good thinking!

I own a piece of equipment  talented friend made tho I don't use it. It is
an electric drill on a stand driving a cox airplane engine as a compressor.

Was it an old sewing machine motor or did you steal it from your wife's
sewing machine.Did you then convert it to pedal power for her!!??


Geoff.



Hi all .
>   Noticed all the talk about silent compressors ;; I dont have that problem
>;; used an old sewing machine motor and made a small 1/2 in bore compressor
>and let it run all the time . pressure switch on air receiver .
>   Initially its like waiting for a battery to charge but once up to
>pressure  just ideal for testing model steam engines and as a bonus ( very
>little expence )
>
>  " NO Echo '.
>
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Re: Air Supply (not the band)

2003-04-04 Thread graham sprague
Hi all .
   Noticed all the talk about silent compressors ;; I dont have that problem
;; used an old sewing machine motor and made a small 1/2 in bore compressor
and let it run all the time . pressure switch on air receiver .
   Initially its like waiting for a battery to charge but once up to
pressure  just ideal for testing model steam engines and as a bonus ( very
little expence )

  " NO Echo '.

- Original Message -
From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Air Supply (not the band)


> Trent,
>
> My compressor is in the garage, with an airline around  the perimeter of
> the foundation into a spare bedroom, which is my hobby room.  There  is a
> filter  and pressure regulator inside the room and a moisture trap just
> outside as the long line acts as a sort of aftercooler.. I have shutoff
> valves in the appropriate places.  I do have an airline lubricator but it
> is not connected as I don't want oil in the line, altho I am considering
> installing it on a separate line for running the steam engines for any
> length of time (NOT thru the boiler).  Incidentally, that extra storage
> tank is a good idea for our type of application.
>
> I  can also run a hose from the compressor for steaming up my 3/4"gauge on
> the track insert sections across the driveway at the garage entrance.
>
> The compressor is  an Ingersoll Rand belt driven 1-1/2 hp  110   and is
> very adequate for my needs.  One can buy a "hardware"  recipricating
> compressor that will be very adequate for around $300-400--it depends on
> the amount of usage. They would not work well for 8hrs use a day but
should
> last for years if used intermittedly. Mine cost $400 15 years ago but it
> was over priced where I bought it--(at one of my dealers!!!) and it was
not
> designed for industrial use, just for homeowners.  It runs as good as ever
> and when I recently took the head off  to check the valves and cyls, they
> were like new.
>
> Vance is correct I believe, reciprocating compressors are naturally noisy
> and to buy a "silenced one" would be expensive--a rotary screw (which is
> quiet) of any quality would cost a lot of money, and you wouldn't want a
> cheapie  "imitation". Air was my business and I love it--no--NOT hot air!!
>
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
> Hello All,
> >
> > Even the *cheaper* belt driven compressors with separate motor and
> >compressor head are a LOT quieter and smoother running than the ones with
the
> >motor coupled directly to the compressor head's shaft. At least that's my
> >experience, having owned both types.
> > In the past I've worked around a similar noise problem with a
compressor.
> >If the compressor was going to be running a lot, I would sometimes roll
it
> >outside and run a hose through a cracked door and into the existing
piping
> >through a quick connect coupling. Now, my compressor is permanently in
another
> >room of the garage so it's no longer a problem. (Other than it's easy to
> >forget to drain the water from the tank, or check the oil level in the
head.)
> > I also have an additional storage tank (roughly 30 gallon) piped
into the
> >air supply plumbing. It helps considerably in keeping "ON" time to a
minimum,
> >especially during sporadic or light use. It also provides a good
additional
> >volume of air for pneumatic tools. I bought the bare tank at a Flea
Market for
> >almost nothing.
> > Hope it helps, or spawns an idea.
> >
> >Later,
> >Trent
>
>
>
>
 


Re: Air Supply (not the band)

2003-04-04 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Trent,

My compressor is in the garage, with an airline around  the perimeter of
the foundation into a spare bedroom, which is my hobby room.  There  is a
filter  and pressure regulator inside the room and a moisture trap just
outside as the long line acts as a sort of aftercooler.. I have shutoff
valves in the appropriate places.  I do have an airline lubricator but it
is not connected as I don't want oil in the line, altho I am considering
installing it on a separate line for running the steam engines for any
length of time (NOT thru the boiler).  Incidentally, that extra storage
tank is a good idea for our type of application.

I  can also run a hose from the compressor for steaming up my 3/4"gauge on
the track insert sections across the driveway at the garage entrance.

The compressor is  an Ingersoll Rand belt driven 1-1/2 hp  110   and is
very adequate for my needs.  One can buy a "hardware"  recipricating
compressor that will be very adequate for around $300-400--it depends on
the amount of usage. They would not work well for 8hrs use a day but should
last for years if used intermittedly. Mine cost $400 15 years ago but it
was over priced where I bought it--(at one of my dealers!!!) and it was not
designed for industrial use, just for homeowners.  It runs as good as ever
and when I recently took the head off  to check the valves and cyls, they
were like new.

Vance is correct I believe, reciprocating compressors are naturally noisy
and to buy a "silenced one" would be expensive--a rotary screw (which is
quiet) of any quality would cost a lot of money, and you wouldn't want a
cheapie  "imitation". Air was my business and I love it--no--NOT hot air!!


Geoff.



Hello All,
>
> Even the *cheaper* belt driven compressors with separate motor and
>compressor head are a LOT quieter and smoother running than the ones with the
>motor coupled directly to the compressor head's shaft. At least that's my
>experience, having owned both types.
> In the past I've worked around a similar noise problem with a compressor.
>If the compressor was going to be running a lot, I would sometimes roll it
>outside and run a hose through a cracked door and into the existing piping
>through a quick connect coupling. Now, my compressor is permanently in another
>room of the garage so it's no longer a problem. (Other than it's easy to
>forget to drain the water from the tank, or check the oil level in the head.)
> I also have an additional storage tank (roughly 30 gallon) piped into the
>air supply plumbing. It helps considerably in keeping "ON" time to a minimum,
>especially during sporadic or light use. It also provides a good additional
>volume of air for pneumatic tools. I bought the bare tank at a Flea Market for
>almost nothing.
> Hope it helps, or spawns an idea.
>
>Later,
>Trent



 


Re: Air Supply (not the band)

2003-04-04 Thread Trent Dowler
Hello All,

 Even the *cheaper* belt driven compressors with separate motor and
compressor head are a LOT quieter and smoother running than the ones with the
motor coupled directly to the compressor head's shaft. At least that's my
experience, having owned both types.
 In the past I've worked around a similar noise problem with a compressor.
If the compressor was going to be running a lot, I would sometimes roll it
outside and run a hose through a cracked door and into the existing piping
through a quick connect coupling. Now, my compressor is permanently in another
room of the garage so it's no longer a problem. (Other than it's easy to
forget to drain the water from the tank, or check the oil level in the head.)
 I also have an additional storage tank (roughly 30 gallon) piped into the
air supply plumbing. It helps considerably in keeping "ON" time to a minimum,
especially during sporadic or light use. It also provides a good additional
volume of air for pneumatic tools. I bought the bare tank at a Flea Market for
almost nothing.
 Hope it helps, or spawns an idea.

Later,
Trent



Vance Bass wrote:

> Chuck, the quiet ones are gonna cost you a LOT.  The ones you buy down at
> the
> hardware store won't cut it -- you'll probably have to go to an industrial
> supply.
 


Re: ECLSTS

2003-04-04 Thread Pthornto
In a message dated 4/4/2003 3:03:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> thanks for the directions, but what are the dates of the 
> show??


ECLSTS has a site:  www.eclsts.com

Hours are Friday 4pm - 9pm, Sat 10-5  and Sun 10-4.

Not usually much steam happening, but lots of dealers (Nicholas Smith brings boxes of 
junk to paw thru!)  I like the plant store Appalachian Gardens - lots of dwarf stuff.  

The PLS track should be busy.

Clem will be bringing his 1:20.3 modular layout (fully scenick'd) and he will run 
steam or electric.  We ran Jim's new K-27 in Timonium - pretty awesome.

  Pete