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Agreed, Gary, I hope there are a few more shots too. I was disappointed that when the movie ended at the station -- viewers only saw the coaches-no beautiful Olton Hall! Ta for the info on HP 11, Susan. Well--it's Warner Bros--gotta train that director, where are his priorities!!? Isn't he enlightened? Geoff. Susan and others of the list, Although I did enjoy the movie, let's hope that there are a few more loco/train shots in HP II. For, as many of us know, a steam locomotive with a few coaches can weave a spell of their own. GaryB - Original Message - From: Susan JL Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:59 AM Subject: RE: Hogwart's Express Hi All, HP II film production has started, so perhaps they won't be repainting the loco so soon? BW, Susan.
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Hi All, HP II film production has started, so perhaps they won't be repainting the loco so soon? BW, Susan.
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Susan and others of the list, Although I did enjoy the movie, let's hope that there are a few more loco/train shots in HP II. For, as many of us know, a steam locomotive with a few coaches can weave a spell of their own. GaryB - Original Message - From: Susan JL Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:59 AM Subject: RE: Hogwart's Express Hi All, HP II film production has started, so perhaps they won't be repainting the loco so soon? BW, Susan.
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Tony, List et al, Takes on to recognise another! except that Tony has youth on his side. Wish he was bringing his coal fired 10mm to DH! Or I could take it for him??!!! Incidentally; Diamondhead, I have found the Coastliner shuttle to be very good after 8 years and inexpensive--25 bucks each way., not bad for 60 miles. Also relaxing after hanging around in airports etc, etc I rented a car once, it was expensive and I hardly when in Diamondhead. The other alternative, I suppose, is to do as Vance does, share a car to cut the costs. Any way, barring bad weather in San Francisco I'll be there on the We on time! Of course, Jesse could make a slight detour and pick me up (only 275 miles north of San Fran, Jesse.) The only other hitchhiker might be Bigfoot! I'm not sure, tho, if even your Crown Victoria could accomodate him! Geoff. lHi Geoff, Who do you think you are kidding?. I think the reason you have all the different scales, engines and fuels is to confound and confuse the young-uns and more of the old-uns in live steam. It has nothing to do with your age or memory. You can,t fool us all everytime, just most of use most of the time!. With your own up and coming movie career, you could give Richard Harris a run for his money in Hogworts Express version 2 sequel. (Probably drink him under the table in the lunch hour as well!!) Toot-Toot-Hic,Toot-Toot-Hic, Chuf-Chuff-Weeze, Chuff-Chuff-Weeze, Pst. Humblest apologies to our Web Master Tony D.
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Trent et al, Whoops, wrong scale but I attempted to fire an OS Porter- 3-1/2 gauge with wood stove pellets. I couldn't find harwood so had to use softwood--bad!! I'd get pressure up for a short while but the loco and I could not be seen--lovely smoke screen, spectacular! Caught my hat afire with sparks too. I kerosene fired it too, but not very sucessfully. Never did like propane- and coal was the natural way to go. I enjoyed all Kevin's info on stainless steel for our right' scale locos.-I've got to get into that more. Geoff. Now you REALLY have my attention. Wood fired small scale, or large ride-on scale? Later, Trent Geoff Spenceley wrote: Three scales, three gauges, steam, butane, alcohol and coal, (wood once) sparkies, you name it! Lots of the Hand of God powered too.
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Tch, Tch, Tony, Wot memory?? So thanks, you've helped me. This will help me explain the mix of locos and coaches I run. Anyway, my RR is a museum park, thus the short runs and hodgepodge of locos and coaches. To explain the mix of scales? Well no problem, the name of my RR is: The Nonsensical Secret Garden Railway. Any argument? Three sclaes, three gauges, steam, butane, alcohol and coal, (wood once) sparkies, you name it! Lots of the Hand of God powered too. Geoff. Hi Geoff, A quiet reminder to refresh your memory!. Do you not remember?. Duchess,s were not only painted LMS Crimson Lake during their lifetime, but also British Rail green, British Rail Red, Sky Blue!, Grey and BR Black. So green would not be incorrect. Or is that envy?. Tony D. At 07:24 PM 11/21/01 -0800, you wrote: Thanks Keith, In fact I'm taking a can of GWR paint to the movie--I'll show 'em. How? well, locally there is also a preview of the movie The Majestic with Jim Carrey in which I was an extra-- someone spotted me on the movie street, so I'll just hang around on the screen and do the painting when the Harry Potter movie comes on!! And-I aint a-kiddin!! Geoff. PS. Wouldn't the Duchess look wonderful in green. at least it would help it a little! Right, you've guessed, I'm green with envy, Ah that Duchess! Anthony Dixon wrote: Hi Gary, So why not use a Jubilee or a Royal Scot or a Duchess, and save the paint and hassle from the GWR fanatics?. (Just kidding). But Tony, everybody knows there's no magic in non-GWR locomotives. How could they use anything BUT a GWR loco! Cheers Keith -- === Keith Manison Phone (876)702-0337 7 Mulberry CloseFax (876)702-0661 Jacks Hill P.A.Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kingston 6, Jamaica W.I.
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Geoff, Now you REALLY have my attention. Wood fired small scale, or large ride-on scale? Later, Trent Geoff Spenceley wrote: Three scales, three gauges, steam, butane, alcohol and coal, (wood once) sparkies, you name it! Lots of the Hand of God powered too.
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Hi Geoff, A quiet reminder to refresh your memory!. Do you not remember?. Duchess,s were not only painted LMS Crimson Lake during their lifetime, but also British Rail green, British Rail Red, Sky Blue!, Grey and BR Black. So green would not be incorrect. Or is that envy?. Tony D. At 07:24 PM 11/21/01 -0800, you wrote: Thanks Keith, In fact I'm taking a can of GWR paint to the movie--I'll show 'em. How? well, locally there is also a preview of the movie The Majestic with Jim Carrey in which I was an extra-- someone spotted me on the movie street, so I'll just hang around on the screen and do the painting when the Harry Potter movie comes on!! And-I aint a-kiddin!! Geoff. PS. Wouldn't the Duchess look wonderful in green. at least it would help it a little! Right, you've guessed, I'm green with envy, Ah that Duchess! Anthony Dixon wrote: Hi Gary, So why not use a Jubilee or a Royal Scot or a Duchess, and save the paint and hassle from the GWR fanatics?. (Just kidding). But Tony, everybody knows there's no magic in non-GWR locomotives. How could they use anything BUT a GWR loco! Cheers Keith -- === Keith Manison Phone (876)702-0337 7 Mulberry CloseFax (876)702-0661 Jacks Hill P.A.Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kingston 6, Jamaica W.I.
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Jesse, Snob? Me? I've been called many things but that's the first time I've been called a snob. grin Later, Trent Jesse Grimmer wrote: Such a steam snob, that Trent !!
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Such a steam snob, that Trent !!
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At 09:51 PM 11/20/01 -0800, you wrote: It is too bad that the purists are so upset. But Gary, it's their JOB to be upset! :-) Seriously though, you're right about the publicity and exposure, and this was first thing that occurred to me when I learned that this played a part in the HP stories. What this will do is to signal to millions of small (and large) children that steam trains are COOL, maybe even mystical. That's enough, they will take it from there. Talk about PR boon. If say at my large scale club one of the guys painted his Pacific (or other suitable engine) Lake and put Hogwart's (etc) heraldry on it and was available for passenger hauling at the next meet the children would go absolutely wild for it! No amount of money could buy that PR and community good will. Perhaps they were upset because she was painted in LMS Crimson lake! Of course it will only be a matter of time before we see diesels, either in model or full size form, painted red and labeled Hogwart's Express. And my bet is they don't get the Crimson Lake right either. :-0 Cheers, Harry
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In a message dated 11/20/01 11:56:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bedside themselves over this Gary What an appropriate typo! Jim Crabb
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Hi Gary, So why not use a Jubilee or a Royal Scot or a Duchess, and save the paint and hassle from the GWR fanatics?. (Just kidding). They repainted two perfectly good engines to Crimson Lake, and now have to repaint them Green again. Here,s wishing everyone on the list a Very Happy Thanksgiving to all.. Tony D. At 09:51 PM 11/20/01 -0800, you wrote: I understand the GWR purists ARE bedside themselves over this. Harry Those of the list, It is too bad that the purists are so upset. They should realize the good in the world wide exposure of one of their beloved locomotives. Despite her thin coat of paint, all of us of the list are now aware of her wonderful history. Perhaps they were upset because she was painted in LMS Crimson lake! GaryB
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Anthony Dixon wrote: Hi Gary, So why not use a Jubilee or a Royal Scot or a Duchess, and save the paint and hassle from the GWR fanatics?. (Just kidding). But Tony, everybody knows there's no magic in non-GWR locomotives. How could they use anything BUT a GWR loco! Cheers Keith -- === Keith Manison Phone (876)702-0337 7 Mulberry CloseFax (876)702-0661 Jacks Hill P.A.Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kingston 6, Jamaica W.I.
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Thanks Keith, In fact I'm taking a can of GWR paint to the movie--I'll show 'em. How? well, locally there is also a preview of the movie The Majestic with Jim Carrey in which I was an extra-- someone spotted me on the movie street, so I'll just hang around on the screen and do the painting when the Harry Potter movie comes on!! And-I aint a-kiddin!! Geoff. PS. Wouldn't the Duchess look wonderful in green. at least it would help it a little! Right, you've guessed, I'm green with envy, Ah that Duchess! Anthony Dixon wrote: Hi Gary, So why not use a Jubilee or a Royal Scot or a Duchess, and save the paint and hassle from the GWR fanatics?. (Just kidding). But Tony, everybody knows there's no magic in non-GWR locomotives. How could they use anything BUT a GWR loco! Cheers Keith -- === Keith Manison Phone (876)702-0337 7 Mulberry CloseFax (876)702-0661 Jacks Hill P.A.Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kingston 6, Jamaica W.I.
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I'm sure it's been pointed out by now, but Toys-R-Us (in the U.S.) has the HO sparkies on the shelf. I didn't pay any attention to price. (No Live Steam, no interest.) Later, Trent Anthony Dixon wrote: Bachman have issued an HO electric set, with GWR Castle class engine in maroon with three coaches. Just fit under your Xmas tree. Saw these in UK a month ago, and in local model shop in Bay Area last week.
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Tony, That sounds like a great scene to re-create on a layout. A locomotive and crew looking for a switch that has been removed. Oh, and thanks for passing along the story. Later, Trent Anthony Dixon wrote: The driver stopped the engine, and alighted to join the fireman who told him the spur switch to the main line which had been there for years, and used the previous day had disappeared. The track stopped 50 yards short of the main line!
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Harry, The first name that popped into my head after your comment (below) was Lionel. grin (Meaning absolutely no offense to any Lionel collectors out there.) Later, Trent Harry Wade wrote: Of course it will only be a matter of time before we see diesels, either in model or full size form, painted red and labeled Hogwart's Express. And my bet is they don't get the Crimson Lake right either. :-0
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At 08:47 PM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote: I took the opportunity to ask the web site at http://www.visitcumbria.com/whitehaven/whavhog.htm how they claim their engine to be the Hogwart's Express. Who would desire to falsely claim to children and train nuts that this engine was in the movie. Perhaps it was used in the moving train shot from the air? (If they are stating truth) ~Gary Lane Gary, Perhaps it's also like Thomas the Tank Engine, all the preserved railways need one so they hang a fiberglass face on their shunter. But then they don't claim it was the movie version. In all fairness, I think if you read the wording of the site very carefully they don't say precisely that it was THE engine but of course the implication is there. And Anthony is right also, I understand the GWR purists ARE bedside themselves over this. Cheers, Harry
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So, who is going to be the first to make a Hogwart's Express? There were, indeed, two locomotives painted red and labelled 'Hogwarts Express'. The one with the smoke deflectors, a rebuilt West Country class, toured early last year when the 4th book was released. The second loco, 5972 'Olton Hall' was repainted for filming. The preservation movement is divided over whether the paint is a good thing. The scenes of the stations could have been any of several stations on preserved british railways. But my 'home' spot, the North Yorkshire Moors railway, had this to say: [Next to the picture of the loco outside the metal building referenced previously, October 8th, 2000.] One locomotive sought after by the kids was 5972 Hogwarts Castle (alias Olton Hall) The locomotive was on the railway for the filming, by Warner Brothers, of the new Harry Potter movie. Taken from http://www.trainweb.org/locowatch/uk/photos/NYMR_SteamGala_Oct2000.htm . Check out all the 1:1 scale steamers! The viaduct looked like it was on the West Highland Line in Scotland - it isn't in Yorkshire! That railway hosts a couple of steamers that run a tourist service in the summer - spectacular scenery. Incidentally, there some major history behind the brief statement Acquired by Woodham's Yard, Barry May 1964. Sold to Procor (U.K.) Ltd in Wakefield, 1981 125th departure from Barry May 1981. Barry scrapyard was the resting place for over 100 locos (obviously) and ALL but 2 were saved and rebuilt. Check out http://home.freeuk.com/barryimages/barry20.jpg for a pic of how it looked before being bought for restoration. You'll be amazed. The amount of time and effort (and money) spent in the UK on steam loco restoration is mind-boggling. I think there are over 300 engines in working order! 100+ came from Barry - many in the condition shown in the photo. But back to the models... The Aster King is a very similar loco, and the kids wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you painted it red (! There goes a $5K investment...) Several British specialists will make you a live steam G-1 model. The Bachmann set is OO scale (4mm:ft on HO scale track.) I don't know of a larger scale model, though I suspect the gauge-3 soc know of an old Bassett-Lowke steamer if there ever was one. Coaches are available. The BR type-1 or LMS corridor coaches will do the trick. I think there's a supplier in Canada, and Fine Scale Locomotive Co. make some LMS versions, see http://www.galtran.com/Finescale%20Loco%20catCoaches3.JPG. IEW Railway advertise them in SitG. Let me know if you want any more miscellaneous ramblings! Pete
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Thanks Harry, Think I'll dress up my King with crimson lipstick from one of the Bud Lasses, change a bit of piping-- then drive it back to Hogwart's where I think I originated as far as my memory of school goes-- you know, that naughty boy who always plagued Harry, particularly on the train. Geoff. See http://www.hpgalleries.com/mgallery6.htm Cheers, Harry
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Hi Gary, I have not been to the movies for years. But I do pick up all the English Heritage Railway magazines whenever I get over there. Made three trips this year. They have wonderful stories, updates and help break the monotony of the 10hr flights. Hence the info on Hogwarts engines. During an actual trip while in the, UK, this year, I heard that the refurbished LMS Stanier Pacific Duchess of Southerland had been completed at a cost of 100,000uk pounds ($150,000) at Butterley Heritage Museum, which is about 40 miles from where I was staying. I had heard previously it was almost complete so decided to go see it and take some photo,s/video etc. Butterley has a spur line which connects it to the main line North East Railway for running excursions. That very day the Duchess of Sutherland had just completed a 1000 mile running in period on the main line and returned to the shed using the spur. The very next day the Butterley staff had another scheduled excursion planned using an British Railways 2-6-4 Tank engine. The staff fired it up and reversed down the spur to the main line about 1/2mile away. Nearing the main line, the fireman jumped down from the engine to change the switch, then ran back to the engine driver frantically waving his arms. The driver stopped the engine, and alighted to join the fireman who told him the spur switch to the main line which had been there for years, and used the previous day had disappeared. The track stopped 50 yards short of the main line! After many frantic phone calls, they found out that North Eastern Rail had decided to replace some sections of the mainline during the night, and seeing the old spur disappearing into the darkness, and somewhat overgrown, they decided it was unused and replaced the switch with a length of straight track. This left the whole of Butterley Sheds isolated, with summer weekend Heritage excursions planned throughout the summer. It was only after Butterley Heritage group threatened to sue North East Rail that North East Rail replaced the switch three weeks later. The very next day, the Duchess pulled a night round trip excursion from Derby to Birmingham and back. And we think G1 is fun!. Tony D. 35 AM 11/20/01 -0800, Gary wrote: Thank you Tony for clearing up the muddy waters. I love movies, but do not follow stars or movie news. I am not sure movie news would have included the information you provided. I am sure British papers carried more news than the States regarding this wonderful British story/film. Gary ~ slogging through another Oregon winter in Eugene Gary, Harry and list, Harry and Landon are correct. The re-painted Southern Railway Bullied Pacific 4-6-2 Taw Valley with smoke deflectors, (Blinkers in English), was NOT in the Harry Potter film scenes. This Pacific was specially painted for publicity stunt runs for 'Harry Potter fans, as a special train around England/Scotland just to publicize the books and the film. The first trip from London to Edinburgh was hosted by the author and publishers of the Harry Potter books. The whole train was called the Harry Potter Special. They did not use the actual re-painted ex-GWR 4-6-0 engine used in the film, because it was still being used for the film scenes at that time. Regards, Tony D.
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I understand the GWR purists ARE bedside themselves over this. Harry Those of the list, It is too bad that the purists are so upset. They should realize the good in the world wide exposure of one of their beloved locomotives. Despite her thin coat of paint, all of us of the list are now aware of her wonderful history. Perhaps they were upset because she was painted in LMS Crimson lake! GaryB
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At 06:14 PM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote: So, who is going to be the first to make a Hogwart's Express? Gary in Eugene, First, can you tell us what up front? You know it's not a King, so is it a . . . . [ ] A Saint [ ] A Hall [ ] A Royal Scot [ ] A Manor [ ] A Jubilee [ ] An LMS Class 5 Cheers, Harry
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U, it's a 10-wheeler? {:]
Trot, the British-clueless, fox...
At 08:38 PM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
First, can you tell us what up front? You know it's not a King, so is
it a . . . .
[ ] A Saint [ ] A Hall [ ] A Royal Scot
[ ] A Manor [ ] A Jubilee [ ] An LMS Class 5
Cheers,
Harry
/\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember,
( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ There is a
\_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative.
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Actually, I was hoping someone recognized the train. Looks like an English
train. Scott or Irish?
Looks like two drive axles. Never saw the actual wheel arrangement. Harry
Potter is a fun movie.
I take care of adult schizophrenics in my home, they even liked the movie.
Typically, they do not stay to watch an entire movie unless it is Predator,
Terminator, Robo Cop or Harry Potter.
The coaches were gorgeous. The entire train is red. The little station at
the end of the line is picture perfect.
Gary ~ slogging through another Oregon winter in Eugene
- Original Message -
From: Landon Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Hogwart's Express
U, it's a 10-wheeler? {:]
Trot, the British-clueless, fox...
At 08:38 PM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
First, can you tell us what up front? You know it's not a King, so
is
it a . . . .
[ ] A Saint [ ] A Hall [ ] A Royal
Scot
[ ] A Manor [ ] A Jubilee [ ] An LMS
Class 5
Cheers,
Harry
/\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember,
( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ There is a
\_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative.
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http://www.visitcumbria.com/whitehaven/whavhog.htmPhotos of the actual
train used for Harry Potter's Hogwart's Express. The engine pictured looks
larger than what my memory of the movie engine appeared. Memory, who can
trust it?
West Country Bulleid Pacific 34027 ('Taw Valley') - turned into 'Hogwarts
Express'
for the 'Harry Potter' film
- Original Message -
From: Harry Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Hogwart's Express
At 06:14 PM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote:
So, who is going to be the first to make a Hogwart's Express?
Gary in Eugene,
First, can you tell us what up front? You know it's not a King, so is
it a . . . .
[ ] A Saint [ ] A Hall [ ] A Royal Scot
[ ] A Manor [ ] A Jubilee [ ] An LMS Class 5
Cheers,
Harry
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It actually is a 4-6-0, though I don't know the loco's class. There is a
photo here...
http://www.geocities.com/wizardingnetwrk/set/hogwartsexpress.jpg
I have not yet found any info on the loco itself. Everyone is more
interested in the movie at this point. {:) I'd love to know more about it
though.
Aperantly some of the filming (the viaduct sequence at the least) was done
in Glenfinnan, Scotland. This info taken from
http://www.glenfinnan.org/news.htm
Trot, the fox who will search more later. :)
At 07:06 PM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote:
Actually, I was hoping someone recognized the train. Looks like an English
train. Scott or Irish?
Looks like two drive axles. Never saw the actual wheel arrangement. Harry
Potter is a fun movie.
I take care of adult schizophrenics in my home, they even liked the movie.
Typically, they do not stay to watch an entire movie unless it is Predator,
Terminator, Robo Cop or Harry Potter.
The coaches were gorgeous. The entire train is red. The little station at
the end of the line is picture perfect.
Gary ~ slogging through another Oregon winter in Eugene
/\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember,
( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ There is a
\_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative.
Re: Hogwart's Express
Do you think they used more than one engine for the different scenes? That is _definately_ not the loco I saw on the screen. Trot, the absolutely certain, fox... /\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember, ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ There is a \_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative.
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At 07:27 PM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote: http://www.visitcumbria.com/whitehaven/whavhog.htmPhotos of the actual train used for Harry Potter's Hogwart's Express. Not even close. Someone is taking credit where no credit is due (as we can expect) and now any loco or train painted red will be the H.E. Look closely at the locomotive in the movie. For starters there are no smoke deflectors. Trot wins the prize . . . the Hogwart's Express is indeed hauled by locomotive 5972 OLTON HALL. Cheers, Harry
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At 09:36 PM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote: It actually is a 4-6-0, though I don't know the loco's class. 5972 - Olton Hall. Built Swindon Works (GWR) April 1937. First shed allocation Neath. August 1950 shed allocation Carmarthen. (Fitted with 3 row superheater.) March 1959 shed allocation Plymouth. Last shed allocation Cardiff East Dock. Withdrawn from service December 1963. Acquired by Woodham's Yard, Barry May 1964. Sold to Procor (U.K.) Ltd in Wakefield, 1981 125th departure from Barry May 1981. Cheers, Harry
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See http://www.hpgalleries.com/mgallery6.htm Cheers, Harry
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Thanks Harry! The http://www.visitcumbria.com/whitehaven/whavhog.htm Bullied Pacific did not seem to resemble the Hogwart's Express I recalled from the movie. The Olton Hall is the right engine! - Original Message - From: Harry Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Hogwart's Express See http://www.hpgalleries.com/mgallery6.htm Cheers, Harry
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I took the opportunity to ask the web site at http://www.visitcumbria.com/whitehaven/whavhog.htm how they claim their engine to be the Hogwart's Express. Who would desire to falsely claim to children and train nuts that this engine was in the movie. Perhaps it was used in the moving train shot from the air? (If they are stating truth) ~Gary Lane At 09:36 PM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote: It actually is a 4-6-0, though I don't know the loco's class. 5972 - Olton Hall. Built Swindon Works (GWR) April 1937. First shed allocation Neath. August 1950 shed allocation Carmarthen. (Fitted with 3 row superheater.) March 1959 shed allocation Plymouth. Last shed allocation Cardiff East Dock. Withdrawn from service December 1963. Acquired by Woodham's Yard, Barry May 1964. Sold to Procor (U.K.) Ltd in Wakefield, 1981 125th departure from Barry May 1981. Cheers, Harry
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Hi Gary, Already done!. Bachman have issued an HO electric set, with GWR Castle class engine in maroon with three coaches. Just fit under your Xmas tree. Saw these in UK a month ago, and in local model shop in Bay Area last week. I suppose your question could be directed at Accucraft!. Regards, Tony D. At 06:14 PM 11/19/01 -0800, Gary wrote: So, who is going to be the first to make a Hogwart's Express? ~Gary in Eugene, Oregon wants to know
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Hi Harry, Castles, Halls, Manor,s are all the same to me. I cannot afford to live in any of em!. Tony D. At 08:38 PM 11/19/01 -0600, Harry Wade wrote: At 06:14 PM 11/19/01 -0800, you wrote: So, who is going to be the first to make a Hogwart's Express? Gary in Eugene, First, can you tell us what up front? You know it's not a King, so is it a . . . . [ ] A Saint [ ] A Hall [ ] A Royal Scot [ ] A Manor [ ] A Jubilee [ ] An LMS Class 5 Cheers, Harry
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Hi Gary,
Ref. my previous e mail.
Engine is a repainted English Great
Western Railway (GWR) specially for the film. GWR Heritage
Societies were not happy at the repaint job on one of Gods
Wonderful Railway engines.
Note:- Scotland never had there own engines/railways. They
were to tight with their money to make any. So allowed
foreigners from over the border to design, make and run engines
for them.!
Ireland tried to run theirs on Pocheen or peat. They either
blew up or got
bogged down!.
Tony D.
At 07:06 PM 11/19/01 -0800, Gary wrote:
Actually, I was hoping someone recognized the train. Looks like an English
train. Scott or Irish?
Looks like two drive axles. Never saw the actual wheel arrangement. Harry
Potter is a fun movie.
I take care of adult schizophrenics in my home, they even liked the movie.
Typically, they do not stay to watch an entire movie unless it is Predator,
Terminator, Robo Cop or Harry Potter.
The coaches were gorgeous. The entire train is red. The little station at
the end of the line is picture perfect.
Gary ~ slogging through another Oregon winter in Eugene
- Original Message -
From: Landon Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Hogwart's Express
U, it's a 10-wheeler? {:]
Trot, the British-clueless, fox...
At 08:38 PM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
First, can you tell us what up front? You know it's not a King, so
is
it a . . . .
[ ] A Saint [ ] A Hall [ ] A Royal
Scot
[ ] A Manor [ ] A Jubilee [ ] An LMS
Class 5
Cheers,
Harry
/\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember,
( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ There is a
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Re: Hogwart's Express
Gary, Harry and list, Harry and Landon are correct. The re-painted Southern Railway Bullied Pacific 4-6-2 Taw Valley with smoke deflectors, (Blinkers in English), was NOT in the Harry Potter film scenes. This Pacific was specially painted for publicity stunt runs for 'Harry Potter fans, as a special train around England/Scotland just to publicize the books and the film. The first trip from London to Edinburgh was hosted by the author and publishers of the Harry Potter books. The whole train was called the Harry Potter Special. They did not use the actual re-painted ex-GWR 4-6-0 engine used in the film, because it was still being used for the film scenes at that time. Regards, Tony D. At 08:47 PM 11/19/01 -0800, Gary wrote: I took the opportunity to ask the web site at http://www.visitcumbria.com/whitehaven/whavhog.htm how they claim their engine to be the Hogwart's Express. Who would desire to falsely claim to children and train nuts that this engine was in the movie. Perhaps it was used in the moving train shot from the air? (If they are stating truth) ~Gary Lane At 09:36 PM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote: It actually is a 4-6-0, though I don't know the loco's class. 5972 - Olton Hall. Built Swindon Works (GWR) April 1937. First shed allocation Neath. August 1950 shed allocation Carmarthen. (Fitted with 3 row superheater.) March 1959 shed allocation Plymouth. Last shed allocation Cardiff East Dock. Withdrawn from service December 1963. Acquired by Woodham's Yard, Barry May 1964. Sold to Procor (U.K.) Ltd in Wakefield, 1981 125th departure from Barry May 1981. Cheers, Harry
